Related
Just wanted to do a quick poll on if your getting the Galaxy S4 Octa 5 Exynos or Quad Core Snapdragon 600.
If you have a reason for choosing one variant of the Galaxy S4 over the other be sure to comment below!
Haven't decided if I'm upgrading my device yet but if I am, I will be attempting to get the Exynos Octa. The improved battery life and the PowerVr GPU as well as the wolfson DAC are all swinging me towards the Octa. Based on previous Samsung devices, the international version received updates quicker. One downside to the octa at the moment is the lack of LTE, although I find 3G to be fast enough so it isn't really a downside for me.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
I voted exynos though by the time they get to the UK the Note 3, Motorola X and Nexus 5 should all be on the horizon so I may end up getting any one of these four phones especially if Sam manage to do some tardis like design with the Note 3 so it doesn't actually get bigger in the pocket.
I'm going to say there will be about 3 or 4 million Snapdragon devices sold JUST in the U.S. .
Just about every other country except for South Korea and maybe Russia will also be mostly Snapdragon versions. Hopefully, for those of you that ordered the Exynos versions, Samsung will let some of them slip out to other locations as long as they have allotted enough to those two countries..
Octa 5 Exynos seems more future-proof than Qcom Snapdragon 600.
^O^
Wolfson chip is all I care for now. But kind of annoying to learn new standard will be 9505 as most countries will receive those. So development will support them more than Exynos. However, even less development support can't force me switch to 9500 as sound quality is the most important part for me right now. I'm listening to a so much music and I spend the same money for my headphones as I do for my phones.
Unsure as of yet, I don't put bat life as a high priority, I want root but only for the apps that require root, I want the best potential game play and sound, I want lte for faster web than I get now on hspa+42 with my n4, so I guess I have to wait till late June early July and see what the exynos is like by then in the UK or even if the phone has been superceded by then.
I want Exynos variant, but hope with new firmwares will score better on gpu benchmarks...
Am in America and there's LTE to take advantage of, so I have to go with Snapdragon. I would really love to use the i9500, but for me, the better LTE speeds will trump the possibly better processor/audio/battery life of the Exynos. Out in the suburbs, a difference of LTE can determine whether you're streaming Youtube in 1080p, or barely skating by on 360. Likewise with Netflix and other services like that.
It would be awesome if I could have the best of both worlds, but I suspect by the time they did that (if they do it at all with the Galaxy S4) then the Note 3 will be out and then I may as well get that.
that snap wont have the wolfeson chip? wtf!!!! i have a note2 but was looking to get the s4,oh well.. i just wonder how much worse the dac will sound
Quad Core Snapdragon 600
Why?
On Sprint and have an upgrade
rumored to get better cpu support
LTE is available in my area
difference in performance is not great enough to give up other advantages
SD600 because of LTE
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
9505
techfanatic9 said:
Just wanted to do a quick poll on if your getting the Galaxy S4 Octa 5 Exynos or Quad Core Snapdragon 600.
If you have a reason for choosing one variant of the Galaxy S4 over the other be sure to comment below!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
9505
Going for the i9500 as that's what we are having in here. No LTE yet
Swyped from another galaxy
Going for GT-I9500.
No 4G in my area yet.
No LTE, neither I9500 here. Undecided which one to buy. I'll wait for few reviews. I want the Octa, but waiting few updated benchmarks and battery life from Octa before deciding if deserves the money and all the processes to get it instead of i9505
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
shadowyman said:
Wolfson chip is all I care for now. But kind of annoying to learn new standard will be 9505 as most countries will receive those. So development will support them more than Exynos. However, even less development support can't force me switch to 9500 as sound quality is the most important part for me right now. I'm listening to a so much music and I spend the same money for my headphones as I do for my phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What would the advantage of the Wolfson DAC be over the Snapdragon GS4? GSMarena's audio testing shows the Snapdragon GS4 has better audio quality than my Nexus S which has a Wolfson DAC.
Since here in Luxembourg we are getting only the I9505 version, I'll be getting the Snapdragon version. I don't really care about benchmarks and CPU's though... so I think I will be ok with both versions
Snapdragon here.
not like I have much of a choice
While I am intrigued by the BIG.Little architecture, and would prefer an exynos with LTE and support for T-mobile radio bands. Since that doesn't exist currently, I am resigned to the Snapdragon, but really not that upset about it. The Snapdragon 600 is a beast in its own right, I'll only be mad if the battery life ends up being much better with exynos over snapdragon.
I'm not too worried about a 10-15% performance difference, and think that development will be better on the snapdragon. I'm much more excited for the new screen, removable battery and sd card, new sensors, wireless charging add-ons, smart cover, almost non-existent light leakage, etc..
Hi, I want to get a new Galaxy S5 and I am not pretty sure which model should I buy.
My carrier does not support LTE, I think it will be supported in a year and a half.
Which model has better performance without thinking about the need of LTE?
Which processor has better performance? Exynos 5 Octa or Snapdragon 801?
Thanks!
I am using lte model but I don't turn on the lte data. I think hsdpa+ is fast enough. Of course octa core were faster than the lte model. But if we look s4 device, snapdragon model were support by many developers
Sent from my SM-G900F using xda app-developers app
Ave666 said:
I am using lte model but I don't turn on the lte data. I think hsdpa+ is fast enough. Of course octa core were faster than the lte model. But if we look s4 device, snapdragon model were support by many developers
Sent from my SM-G900F using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so I understand that the Exynos 5 Octa has better performances than the Snapdragon 801 right?
So you recommend me to buy the SM-G900H?
edenk said:
so I understand that the Exynos 5 Octa has better performances than the Snapdragon 801 right?
So you recommend me to buy the SM-G900H?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. Snapdragon version if ure into gaming cos it has a slightly better gpu though the Mali T628 is powerful enough.. If ure into flashing custom roms, the snapdragon version will obviously have better developer community!
2. Strictly based on CPU performance, exynos version will be better..
Buy wisely!
peRFect! said:
1. Snapdragon version if ure into gaming cos it has a slightly better gpu though the Mali T628 is powerful enough.. If ure into flashing custom roms, the snapdragon version will obviously have better developer community!
2. Strictly based on CPU performance, exynos version will be better..
Buy wisely!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So if I'm in the development community the snapdragon will give me better future development support?
Thanks in advance!
Yeah it's true for development support. But bare in mind that exynos version was faster and the battery life is longer
Sent from my SM-G900F using xda app-developers app
Ave666 said:
Yeah it's true for development support. But bare in mind that exynos version was faster and the battery life is longer
Sent from my SM-G900F using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Battery life is longer?
Well i didn't know that..
Ave666 said:
Yeah it's true for development support. But bare in mind that exynos version was faster and the battery life is longer
Sent from my SM-G900F using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey could you link some source regarding battery life? I haven't been able to find any. cheers.
edenk said:
So if I'm in the development community the snapdragon will give me better future development support?
Thanks in advance!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes definitely..
Exynos 5 Octa.
SD801 version has LTE, better GPU optimisation for HD games, better developer support, higher clock speed(dunno if that's an advantage).
Exynos version has a faster CPU(According to benchmarks and due to HMP), possibly better battery life(big.LITTLE is supposed to aid that), maybe lesser heating (according to @AndreiLux), and a little smoother(according to a few people).
Gaming is not that bad on the Exynos and it plays most HD games flawlessly(check the gaming tests on youtube).
In the end, they are not that difderent from each other. If LTE is a must for you or you need more ROMs, get the Snapdragon. Else, get the Exynos.
system.img said:
SD801 version has LTE, better GPU optimisation for HD games, better developer support, higher clock speed(dunno if that's an advantage).
Exynos version has a faster CPU(According to benchmarks and due to HMP), possibly better battery life(big.LITTLE is supposed to aid that), maybe lesser heating (according to @AndreiLux), and a little smoother(according to a few people).
Gaming is not that bad on the Exynos and it plays most HD games flawlessly(check the gaming tests on youtube).
In the end, they are not that difderent from each other. If LTE is a must for you or you need more ROMs, get the Snapdragon. Else, get the Exynos.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What about the Wolfson DAC and voodoo sound? Wouldn't that be a big plus for the Exynos?
herandy said:
What about the Wolfson DAC and voodoo sound? Wouldn't that be a big plus for the Exynos?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not sure whether the Exynos S5 actually has the Wolfson DAC.
But of course, that is a big plus for the Exynos if it is present.
system.img said:
I'm not sure whether the Exynos S5 actually has the Wolfson DAC.
But of course, that is a big plus for the Exynos if it is present.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you all for helping!
Can u please explain what is Wolfson DAC and voodoo sound?
edenk said:
Thank you all for helping!
Can u please explain what is Wolfson DAC and voodoo sound?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
WM5110E Wolfson DAC is integrated in the Exynos version, which is an audio chip capable of giving high quality sound output through the headphone jack. Samsung usually messes up the software side so someone, usually Supercurio, has to fix it with a mod a.k.a voodoo sound!
herandy said:
WM5110E Wolfson DAC is integrated in the Exynos version, which is an audio chip capable of giving high quality sound output through the headphone jack. Samsung usually messes up the software side so someone, usually Supercurio, has to fix it with a mod a.k.a voodoo sound!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So the Exynos model can give higher quality of sound output?
And why does the snapdragon has better development support than the Exynos? Because every year before this one the Exynos models were the international ones and consequently the more popular with better development support like the i9300 and i9500
edenk said:
So the Exynos model can give higher quality of sound output?
And why does the snapdragon has better development support than the Exynos? Because every year before this one the Exynos models were the international ones and consequently the more popular with better development support like the i9300 and i9500
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It should if the software side is on par with the DAC. The other problem would be remedied in the next flagship model as the Exynos chip would be accompanied with an Intel LTE modem apparently, which would eliminate the need for a Snapdragon variant!
Regarding voodoo for S5, or any other device, I wonder if that will continue, since Supercurio is now part of CyanogenMod/One Plus team.
Sent from my SM-G900F using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
About better development, you should consider that this only applies to AOSP, if you like CM, ParanoidAndroid and so on go for the S801, if you don't then buy the Exynos.
Enviado do meu Galaxy S5
dandroid13 said:
About better development, you should consider that this only applies to AOSP, if you like CM, ParanoidAndroid and so on go for the S801, if you don't then buy the Exynos.
Enviado do meu Galaxy S5
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh now I understand, the nexus has the same processor unit right? the snapdragon 800 and that means more AOKP roms compatible with this model right? What about stock ROMS? Most of them should support the exynos too?
I have another question, my brother is in Hong Kong right now? Are those models SM-G900H and SM-G900F are available to purchase there?
Thanks a lot!
I am going to buy Note 4 soon but before I make final decision I must to know:
Camera in both versions - Exynos and Snapdragon are the same, right?
Battery life is marginally better on Exynos, right?
Exynos means less community support - example problem of getting CyanogenMod. But does it mean I cannot install any other ROM? Or I can't only those without TouchWiz? To be honest I always install ROMS based on TouchWiz, those without, example Cyanogen are crap for me.
Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
I am going to buy Note 4 soon but before I make final decision I must to know:
Camera in both versions - Exynos and Snapdragon are the same, right?
Battery life is marginally better on Exynos, right?
Exynos means less community support - example problem of getting CyanogenMod. But does it mean I cannot install any other ROM? Or I can't only those without TouchWiz? To be honest I always install ROMS based on TouchWiz, those without, example Cyanogen are crap for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1-Right.
2- Not really... if you live in the US the the SD 805 is better any where else is the same (Because of the different radios) but I recommend the Exynos.
3- Nope! they are pretty much the same in this case.
Sent from my Note 4
midopicanto said:
1-Right.
2- Not really... if you live in the US the the SD 805 is better any where else is the same (Because of the different radios) but I recommend the Exynos.
3- Nope! they are pretty much the same in this case.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks,
2 - I wish I lived in US but I live in Netherlands I am horny for Exynos too.
3- Are you sure? Everyone says SD is getting more love, when I see how many mods is going out, I see love for SD, less for Exynos
Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
Thanks,
2 - I wish I lived in US but I live in Netherlands [emoji14] I am horny for Exynos too.
3- Are you sure? Everyone says SD is getting more love, when I see how many mods is going out, I see love for SD, less for Exynos
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exynos better because of
1- the Wolfson DAC built-in a dedicated audio chip that makes a huge difference in audio output and it's compatible with iRig devices if you want to record instruments on your Note and it's the first and the only Android phone that supports it.
2- 64-bit capability the 5433 has Arm cortex A53/A57 cores so that is pretty damn better than the old a15/a17 (I think) Don't forget that the Exynos is built on the "new" 20nm process that is very powerful and power efficient.
3-If you care about benchmarks the Exynos destroy the SD 805 44000 vs 55000 on geekbench
That's from a personal experience I own a Exynos-powered Note 4 and I'm in love with it!
Sent from my Note 4
If you want to use the Gear VR - only Snapdragon runs smooth because of the better GPU
Not my oppinion but an official statement
go for exynos..this time snapdragon batter life is not good and exnos is good all the way even in benchmark
Unfortunately in States we dont have much choice. Only Snapdragon phones fully support available LTE bands.
Sent from my SM-N910T using XDA Free mobile app
Hi,
as the title says, is it possible to buy the exynos version of galaxy s7 edge, but then change the CPU later to a snapdragon 820?
If it is possible to change the CPU / GPU where would i be able to find it as a sparepart?
Thanks in advance.
Eaglesix said:
Hi,
as the title says, is it possible to buy the exynos version of galaxy s7 edge, but then change the CPU later to a snapdragon 820?
If it is possible to change the CPU / GPU where would i be able to find it as a sparepart?
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not possible. You'd be better off just buying a Snapdragon variant but I have no idea why you would want to do that when the general consensus is the exynos version is slightly better.
what he said^^
Surely this is not a serious question. You intend to desolder the existing cpu?
sc2ascend said:
Not possible. You'd be better off just buying a Snapdragon variant but I have no idea why you would want to do that when the general consensus is the exynos version is slightly better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you not been paying attention to benchmarks? The Snapdragon is way better than the exynos...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/03/07/galaxy-s7-performance-problem/#52b44c1d2fdb
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-820-vs-Exynos-8890-flavors-compared_id79141
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ore-powerful-than-iphone-6s---but-not-if-you/
Although, I agree that you shouldn't even consider trying to swap processors. Maybe try to purchase a Snapdragon variant?
Having some experience with PCB and electronics production, no it would not be possible to outright swap the cpu.
But maybe if you are good at tinkering you could buy a motherboard off of a broken device and swap that?
I do not have a lot of experience with electronics modification so i guess my only option is to buy the Snapdragon variant from another country.
In this context does anyone know of any verified phone sellers on the asian market (where the snapdragon variant currently is available) that has a webshop with international delivery?
Also if i buy the phone from asia will i be able to use it with a telephone subscription in Europe or is there some fundamental differences on the phone depending on where you buy it?
g4Nk said:
Have you not been paying attention to benchmarks? The Snapdragon is way better than the exynos...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/03/07/galaxy-s7-performance-problem/#52b44c1d2fdb
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-820-vs-Exynos-8890-flavors-compared_id79141
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ore-powerful-than-iphone-6s---but-not-if-you/
Although, I agree that you shouldn't even consider trying to swap processors. Maybe try to purchase a Snapdragon variant?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, the only thing sd820 is better than 8890 is GPU. In cpu 8890 kills the sd820 even on battery life.
johanbiff said:
Nope, the only thing sd820 is better than 8890 is GPU. In cpu 8890 kills the sd820 even on battery life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Um, the 820 CPU beats the 8890 in single core performance. And battery life with the 820... well, I'll let my screenshots speak for themselves.
g4Nk said:
Have you not been paying attention to benchmarks? The Snapdragon is way better than the exynos...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/03/07/galaxy-s7-performance-problem/#52b44c1d2fdb
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-820-vs-Exynos-8890-flavors-compared_id79141
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ore-powerful-than-iphone-6s---but-not-if-you/
Although, I agree that you shouldn't even consider trying to swap processors. Maybe try to purchase a Snapdragon variant?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Numbers aren't everything. People with the Snapdragon are having issues playing videos that are 1080p and above. Video stops playing but sound still happens on youtube. Same issue the LG V10 had and another phone.
gtg465x said:
Um, the 820 CPU beats the 8890 in single core performance. And battery life with the 820... well, I'll let my screenshots speak for themselves.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope it doesn't. Read Andrei on Reddit. Total score yes, on actual performance per cycle it doesn't. 7h sot over 48h total on my exynos.
johanbiff said:
Nope it doesn't. Read Andrei on Reddit. Total score yes, on actual performance per cycle it doesn't. 7h sot over 48h total on my exynos.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But it does. The only thing it slightly loses in is Integer performance. But it makes up for this in floating point superiority. Don't forget, the exynos in single threaded stuff runs at 2.6ghz, thats about 18% faster than the snapdragons 2.15ghz. If we Normalized the clocks, theres really no question which ones superior in single core performance. As for OPs question, no, unless you are a total bada** it would almost certainly not work. You would likely need to replace the whole board, not just the CPU as it's all one big interconnected system. Especially on the sd820, due to it using the symphony system manager to dynamically offload tasks to the DSP and other blocks to save power and improve performance. On top of all that you would also have weird issues with the kernel being for exynos version for instance and have to get that fixed.
Tldr. Plz don't...
IMHO, The SD 820 beats the 8890 in some areas. However, To me it doesnt really matter which we have, The Device is extremely good with both. Runs a dream. However there is always the issue that development will become slightly frgamented...
We have TWRP for Exynos but not for SD devices. Plus im sure the ROM Will follow soon.
Whats interesting is that the S5 and Note 4 devices internationally came with SD 801 and 805 Respectively.
However after the S6 / Note 5 all Exynos product etc, Sammie decidied to flip that on its head :/ Personally I prefer SD chips. Solely because from previous experience they trashed Exynos and Kirin based ones. However Sammie really upped their game!
fkofilee said:
IMHO, The SD 820 beats the 8890 in some areas. However, To me it doesnt really matter which we have, The Device is extremely good with both. Runs a dream. However there is always the issue that development will become slightly frgamented...
We have TWRP for Exynos but not for SD devices. Plus im sure the ROM Will follow soon.
Whats interesting is that the S5 and Note 4 devices internationally came with SD 801 and 805 Respectively.
However after the S6 / Note 5 all Exynos product etc, Sammie decidied to flip that on its head :/ Personally I prefer SD chips. Solely because from previous experience they trashed Exynos and Kirin based ones. However Sammie really upped their game!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The reason Samsung didn't use the 810 last year was because it was an inferior SOC. It had a lot of heat issues. Up to that point qcom had been great. Also we have no twrp or kernels yet on SD because Samsung has only released exynos source so far for some reason -_-
consider samsung had a year with the 14nm processor, I would love to get my hand on an exynos processor. I have a feeling Samsung pay extra attention to their own processor than a snapdragon 820. Things like updates may come quicker too.
As Sammies Chip making process has grown (Yes Apple... Im looking at oyu) , its made Sammie a helluva ton'a muneh!
Seriously though, Samsung have done a good job with the last 2 gens of processors. S6 and Note 5 and the S7 8890 are nuts!
As for the sourcecode, well when its created by Samsung etc its not so bad
Back to the OP. No you cannot change the processor. Besides if it goes wrong, Warranty is instantly void
fkofilee said:
IMHO, The SD 820 beats the 8890 in some areas. However, To me it doesnt really matter which we have, The Device is extremely good with both. Runs a dream. However there is always the issue that development will become slightly frgamented...
We have TWRP for Exynos but not for SD devices. Plus im sure the ROM Will follow soon.
Whats interesting is that the S5 and Note 4 devices internationally came with SD 801 and 805 Respectively.
However after the S6 / Note 5 all Exynos product etc, Sammie decidied to flip that on its head :/ Personally I prefer SD chips. Solely because from previous experience they trashed Exynos and Kirin based ones. However Sammie really upped their game!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It does but there is a diffrence. When the exynos win it does it with almost 40% in single core which IS noticeable ..the sd820 only wins with up to 10% which is not ( talking about single core here). Hopefully anandtech will sink there teeth in to both socs soon and we will get a clear answer. As for boost clocks... the sd820 have a GPU boost which helps it in bursty situations but can't sustain it for long, that's the extra score in 3D for ya. But will see as time goes by..I have a feeling the exynos is the better overall
johanbiff said:
Nope it doesn't. Read Andrei on Reddit. Total score yes, on actual performance per cycle it doesn't. 7h sot over 48h total on my exynos.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I still had almost 20% battery left in those screenshots.
Either way, I don't think you can say the Exynos is superior. It's better at some things, sure, but the 820 also beats the Exynos in several areas. I have used both extensively and in real world usage, you can't tell a difference. Only benchmarks show the difference.
johanbiff said:
It does but there is a diffrence. When the exynos win it does it with almost 40% in single core which IS noticeable ..the sd820 only wins with up to 10% which is not ( talking about single core here). Hopefully anandtech will sink there teeth in to both socs soon and we will get a clear answer. As for boost clocks... the sd820 have a GPU boost which helps it in bursty situations but can't sustain it for long, that's the extra score in 3D for ya. But will see as time goes by..I have a feeling the exynos is the better overall
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The best win the exynos pulls off in single core is in AES with a 57% win over the SD 820. In the same category the 820 wins sha2 with about a 40% win. And the exynos is clocked almost 20% higher... The exynos 7420 Mali GPU also had a burst clock. It ran at 650mhz unless all cores weren't loaded it would boost up to 720mhz for bursty workloads. In floating point the snapdragon pretty much wins everything despite being at a significant clock disadvantage. If we under clocked the exynos to 2.1ghz it wouldn't even be close IMO. In fact the Integer wins may be largely lost when clocks are normalized.
Qwhy don't people to a trans Atlantic phone exchange. I'm sticking with the exception exynos for the battery. Still waiting for a decent screen protector and battery case though.
Hey,
I've been following up with the LineageOS ROM. Just as much as Resurrection Remix. However; using a N4 which is (correct me if I'm wrong.) a buffed S5. The chipsets are different! I know that but the majority of the firmware aside from Note functions. Is it possible for these two devices framware to be vise-versa compatible? As in unzipping a klte ROM or trtle rom, and flashing it? Sure there'd be changes to be made but what kind of would need to?
@ripee, @_mone, @Chainfire.
Sounds stupid but I'm interested.
I think the snapdragon variants of both note 4 and s5 have same processor, i.e SD 805.
The exynos variant of note 4 has Exynos 5433 and that of s5 has 5422.
Irrespective of which processor they have, there is a difference in display. S5 has a full hd 1080p display, whereas note 4 has a quad hd 1440p display.
However, by making some changes in the firmware, the snapdragon variants can share roms.
Reporting Via N910G.
Bump
Tsyina said:
Bump
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From what I know, there is a note 4 room ported to the s5, ManuN5pro or something.
yashthemw said:
However, by making some changes in the firmware, the snapdragon variants can share roms.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are too many other differences in the hardware component manufacturers and models, as evidenced by the vastly different blobs used between the S5 and Note 4. If only it were as simple as a few changes in the source code...