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dual core s4+2gb ram or quad core+1gb ram

so confused...VOTE!

They finally released 2GB version! My prayers are heard!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/30/canadian-carriers-put-galaxy-s-iii-launch-on-june-20th/

2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad

bala_gamer said:
2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
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but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!

Totòòò said:
but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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both of them are on par on performance with one winning the others in few test, you will absolutely note no difference in performance.

bala_gamer said:
2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
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What makes you say that S4 uses more memory? Both of them don't have dedicated graphics memory like the Tegra3 so they both need to use system ram. The rest is upto the OS, the SoC has nothing to do with it.

I'd pick the dual-core, 4g LTE (and DC-HSPA on 3g which the quad-core doesn't have), 2gb ram and it's not even close.
- Similar performance
- Super fast 4g speeds
- Much faster 3g speeds thanks to DC-HSPA
- 2gb ram means less app killing to make more room for other apps which leads to smoother - more fluid UI experience
I have no idea why people would want the quad-core exynos, other than the fact that it's been released.

S4/Krait : (+) newer architecture, not exactly A15, but comparable. Good battery life. If you use LTE, I think it has integrated LTE radios.
Quad-Exynos: (+) Powerful GPU, I would believe that Samsung can optimize their software much better for Exynos compared to S4. Decent battery life. I read that they modified the architecture with options like 128-bit internal bus which is not available in other A9's.
2GB RAM to probably offset the extra memory used by S4 as we saw in the case AT&T HOX multitasking issue.
Decision is yours.

Totòòò said:
but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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Tegra 3 sucks compared to S4 but exynos is way better than Tegra 3. I would say exynos is the best currently. I'm not sure if there will be too much advantage to gain with 2gb ram. The one advantage the s4 will have over exynos is battery life.

How many of the people who are saying that s4 plus 2gb is not good actually have an option to buy it? Only guys in US who have option to go with either of the two will give you right answer.
Im going with exynos quadcore... Do i think s4 plus 2gb plus lte is better in terms of hardware? definitely yes. Then why am i getting exynos? I want 10bucks unlimited data which will be available only with the unbranded phone. And international phone will have better developer support.
Im positive that s4 version will be super fluid if you choose to go for it though. I think i have made my decision that ill will get international version for my own reasons.
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MrSimtang said:
I'd pick the dual-core, 4g LTE (and DC-HSPA on 3g which the quad-core doesn't have), 2gb ram and it's not even close.
- Similar performance
- Super fast 4g speeds
- Much faster 3g speeds thanks to DC-HSPA
- 2gb ram means less app killing to make more room for other apps which leads to smoother - more fluid UI experience
I have no idea why people would want the quad-core exynos, other than the fact that it's been released.
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Your only valid point is 4G, oh well.....I will have to make do with "only" 42mB/s on DC-HSPA....yes we will have it in Sweden on the Quad core.
2GB RAM is meaningless.

Definitely getting the S4 version as soon as it hits AT&T. I hope it has the Wolfson DAC... but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't.

schrickm5 said:
2GB RAM is meaningless.
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2GB RAM is a must today. If you do not want to seeks kernels with swap option next months you need this RAM.

schrickm5 said:
Your only valid point is 4G, oh well.....I will have to make do with "only" 42mB/s on DC-HSPA....yes we will have it in Sweden on the Quad core.
2GB RAM is meaningless.
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2gb ram means faster more fluid multitasking due to Android not having to kill/reload so many apps when you run multiple things. Won't see crap like the launcher having to reload because you opened a few apps for a while. It leads to better user experience.
And how is Snapdragon S4 vs Exynos 4412 performance not similar? From benchmarks I've seen they're both extremely comparable: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
I don't live in Sweden, so our Exynos variant doesn't have DC-HSPA......yet another reason not to waste money on that variant.

They're both good combinations and offer interesting points for technical comparison. My bet is that real world use on both is very fluid. Both are better than Tegra 3 anyways.
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Quad with 2Gb..?
Thread to thread in super Pi the S4 is just 18% faster, so it will shine a bit in a dual core scenario but will be crushed by the Exynos otherwise (4 threads).
Then the GPU of the Exynos is a lot better (S4 GPU is in the range of the SGS2) and battery drain seem comparable between the 2.

Given an option I will go for S4 (Krait) + 2GB but sadly my part of the geographical location I will get only the Quad core one

Wish they went with adreno 320 and s4 quad like thar stupid looking leaked lg phone.
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If you have LTE in your area get the 2.gb if not get the quad. Hspa + isn't exactly slow, just not comparable to LTE
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I think the decision would make it way more easy for me if there was at least a launch date in US and for AT&T specifically. But it could be fall yet before it actually makes it debut here and also depends on which carrier launches first etc.. etc...
I have the International ordered and still may cancel it if this low stock fiasco doesn't end soon... and wait to see how the US launches unfold. I'm also interested to see real life comparisons of performance between these 2 variants..

[Q] Which is better for Snapdragon 600 or Exynos 5

When considering which Galaxy S4 to buy I'm not sure which is better the US or International version.
US:
Snapdragon 600
1.9 Ghz
Quad Core Krait 300.
or
International:
Exynos5
1.6 Ghz Octal Core
Quad Core Cortex A15 / Quad Core A7
Which is better in terms of performance?
Are they relatively the same performance since both use a quad core for high performance?
Which is better for gaming?
Which is better for battery life?

Exynos is better in every aspect
S4 INFO

Better in sucking battery, yes! But that's it. You can expect development to be absolute crap as No developer wants to develope for exynos.
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Read this and educate yourself
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
If your going to troll at least get your facts straight
Exynos will preform better and save more battery than the snapdragon 600 or almost any android device for that matter and he didn't ask for dev support comparisons
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Imo, real world battery tests and endurances is better than reading those facts. Tbh, it's too early to conclude which is better. Trully, exynos may sound better and more power efficient based on paper, but as of now, we aren't really absolutely sure that the s600 is far left behind. I think, the best for now is to wait for future actual owners of the official S4 to test the performance and battery life themselves..
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it's too early to tell, yes.
but I'm sure the Exynos Octa will perform as good as the snapdragon
and probably save more battery, since that's the whole point lol
PLUS it has a much newer and better GPU which is the reason I'm most interested in it

PLUG313 said:
it's too early to tell, yes.
but I'm sure the Exynos Octa will perform as good as the snapdragon
and probably save more battery, since that's the whole point lol
PLUS it has a much newer and better GPU which is the reason I'm most interested in it
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it's not so new and better like you say. the new gs4 has a powervr sgx544 wich is less performant than the adreno 320 of the snapdragon 600 http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.jsp?base=gpu

Many, MANY, of the top developers have already said they will not develop for Exynos. That would end that choice for me.

Omar56 said:
it's not so new and better like you say. the new gs4 has a powervr sgx544 wich is less performant than the adreno 320 of the snapdragon 600 http://www.glbenchmark.com/result.jsp?base=gpu
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how odd, I thought it was way better from what I read around the forums
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crawlgsx said:
Many, MANY, of the top developers have already said they will not develop for Exynos. That would end that choice for me.
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May i ask why? Sorry but i'm new to the samsung forums and don't have any idea why do the developers of exynos were withdrawing to support such a beast processor..
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Samsung won't release proper sources to help in development
But don't let that guy fool you we have dev support just not as much as say a Sony or HTC device
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samsung does show reluctance in helping developers especially with exynos!
exynos 5 did gave an impression, with multiple cores for battery saving.. but the real verdict will be available as soon as phone is released!!
snapdragon is a beast, no doubt in that!
Qualcomm will surely release sources so no problem with development of snapdragon s4!
I'm sure for such high activity device, CM will be there but the maintainers are no longer making CM, that's a bad news!!
I don't understand samsung's problem with open source, even in mid range phones like y,grand etc they have put broadcom chip with no available sources which makes CM development very hard for them!

Yup

js2892 said:
samsung does show reluctance in helping developers especially with exynos!
exynos 5 did gave an impression, with multiple cores for battery saving.. but the real verdict will be available as soon as phone is released!!
snapdragon is a beast, no doubt in that!
Qualcomm will surely release sources so no problem with development of snapdragon s4!
I'm sure for such high activity device, CM will be there but the maintainers are no longer making CM, that's a bad news!!
I don't understand samsung's problem with open source, even in mid range phones like y,grand etc they have put broadcom chip with no available sources which makes CM development very hard for them!
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i think Samsung is afraid of giving up their edge.. samsung never uses the mainstream parts.. they developed AMOLED when everyone went LCD, they went quad when everyone else went dual, and octa when everyone else went quad, while others stayed close to stock, Samsung made some awesome innovations in its unappreciated touchwiz that fixed lots of missing elements of its competitors (toggles in dropbar, delete apps from drawer, task killer inside long-press, divx/xvid support, exfat, swype, customizable gestures, etc)
Samsung doesn't want its competition to be able to take anything from it. the competition doesn't have anything to lose, as everyone else is pretty much doing the same thing in terms of the same screen given to every phone, and the same processor in every phone.
just my thoughts into it, its better for me if they were, but i think that's why they aren't so open.
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mikegonzalez2k said:
When considering which Galaxy S4 to buy I'm not sure which is better the US or International version.
US:
Snapdragon 600
1.9 Ghz
Quad Core Krait 300.
or
International:
Exynos5
1.6 Ghz Octal Core
Quad Core Cortex A15 / Quad Core A7
Which is better in terms of performance?
Are they relatively the same performance since both use a quad core for high performance?
Which is better for gaming?
Which is better for battery life?
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in my experience and study;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Snapdragon

x102x96x said:
in my experience and study;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Snapdragon
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do you mean the exynos is superior?

essentially they are both QUAD core chips right?, one having a high power sibling to offload heavy duty work, and the other just being heavy duty.
So if this was the case the 1.9ghz chip would be faster anyway right?

NuclearEMP said:
essentially they are both QUAD core chips right?, one having a high power sibling to offload heavy duty work, and the other just being heavy duty.
So if this was the case the 1.9ghz chip would be faster anyway right?
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Actually no the krait cores in the snapdragon 600 have to compromise performance to save battery whereas Exynos doesn't it's alot faster + has better gpu all that while saving more battery
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TingTingin said:
Samsung won't release proper sources to help in development
But don't let that guy fool you we have dev support just not as much as say a Sony or HTC device
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Just depends on what part of Dev is important to you.
Exynos S4 will NOT get official CM support, but I am sure there will be lots of half baked themed TW roms if that is what you like.

crawlgsx said:
Just depends on what part of Dev is important to you.
Exynos S4 will NOT get official CM support, but I am sure there will be lots of half baked themed TW roms if that is what you like.
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Team hacksung have come out as saying that no one person speaks for the group
www.androidpolice.com/2013/03/19/te...ther-confirms-nor-denies-plans-for-cm-on-gs4/
I.e it may very well attain cm support
And as for the half baked cm roms that's also incorrect actually touchwiz roms are excellent
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[Q] Galaxy s4 CPU, music and more

B) another question: the octa core version supports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?
Snapdragon 600 (1.9ghz speed, 4 cores) or Exynos 5 Octa(4 cores A15, clocked at 1.6ghz+ 4 cores 1.2GHZ A7)
1) what is faster? exynos or snapdragon?
2) which one is more effectively? (battery friendly)? (***in both high-huge use and low-idle use.. in which one battery life are better)
3) there are any benchmarks test for both of them.?
i just dont know which one is better..
Adreno 320 GPU vs PowerVR SGX 544MP3
4) which one is stronger?
5) i really dont know which version should i get.. US version(with 1.9ghz) or international(1.6ghz) their performance are really similar?
6) there is any stronger smartphone out now?
6) will the galaxy s4 have wireless charging?
MUSIC:
7) what about music? is there any quality speakers?
8) headphone will be HD/ very good quality.. ? (like in iPhone 5)?
8)

1) the snapdragon is over clocked so is supposed to be faster in cpu but the exynos won't lack behind.
2) for battery of course the exynos since only 4 cores will be running so if ur doing a low use the A7 will be running which are great for battery life and when you kick it to high use that's when the bug guns A15 come in play.
3)for the exynos no because it is not available yet but for the snapdragon it got the twice score of an iphone 5 so that gives a clear answer.
4)i think that would go to the powerVr since the exynos version is expected to be better in Gpu.
5)that depends on you.
6)of course it will but will be optional.
7) the speakers are supposed to be good than the previous models.
8) i am not sure about that but even if they aren't there are always beats.
hope i gave you a clear answer and if there is anything else you would like to know let me know.

Blackwolf10 said:
1) the snapdragon is over clocked so is supposed to be faster in cpu but the exynos won't lack behind.
2) for battery of course the exynos since only 4 cores will be running so if ur doing a low use the A7 will be running which are great for battery life and when you kick it to high use that's when the bug guns A15 come in play.
3)for the exynos no because it is not available yet but for the snapdragon it got the twice score of an iphone 5 so that gives a clear answer.
4)i think that would go to the powerVr since the exynos version is expected to be better in Gpu.
5)that depends on you.
6)of course it will but will be optional.
7) the speakers are supposed to be good than the previous models.
8) i am not sure about that but even if they aren't there are always beats.
hope i gave you a clear answer and if there is anything else you would like to know let me know.
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thanks for taking your time for answering me
do you think exyons 5 will be overclock-able? i hope we will be able to get 1.8ghz or something without losing battery life or something..

yes i think after rooting and few kernel releases you will be able to overclock the Cpu and maybe also the Gpu but why would you need that the exynos on the galaxy s4 is already going to be a beast and it's expected to be in par with the snapdragon and also your welcome

Actually the Exynos is better in every aspect (battery speed and gpu) clock speeds don't mean anything a15s are faster than krait fullstop
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4 core?, I guess its Octo-core Exynos
Well unless you don't use both of them, you can't figure out which one is better.
May be someone may use and let us know.

well even if the exynos is better in every aspect the biggest advantage would still be low task using so its battery saving so everything else is probably the same or little difference and what do you mean clock speeds don't mean anything ?? have you seen the benchmark difference between the galaxy s4 and the htc one ?? and i know the A155 are better than krait that's why the snapdragon is overclocked
@samsingh02 it is octa core but like 4+4 so the 8 cores will never function together it would be like A7 for the low tasks and the A15 when you are on a heavy task like gaming
anyway the thing is the snapdragon is for 4G network and the exynos for the 3G network end of story.

Blackwolf10 said:
well even if the exynos is better in every aspect the biggest advantage would still be low task using so its battery saving so everything else is probably the same or little difference
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I didn't bother to explain it has been done to much and speed is actually a big factor to make a long story short read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
and i know the A155 are better than krait that's why the snapdragon is overclocked
@samsingh02 it is octa core but like 4+4 so the 8 cores will never function together it would be like A7 for the low tasks and the A15 when you are on a heavy task like gaming
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That's the while point
anyway the thing is the snapdragon is for 4G network and the exynos for the 3G network end of story.
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Some benchmarks show Exynos having 4g compatibility
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but that would be the galaxy note 2 exynos 4 because the exynos 5 on the galaxy s4 is not out yet the only exynos 5 is on the nexus 10

Blackwolf10 said:
but that would be the galaxy note 2 exynos 4 because the exynos 5 on the galaxy s4 is not out yet the only exynos 5 is on the nexus 10
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Exynos 5 in the nexus 10 is dual core
But the second part
Where did Exynos 4 come from what are u talking about
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i know it's clocked at 1.7 and i was talking about the note 2 i read in the Xda here that it was available on a carrier in the U.S. with the exynos

You can see here which countries will get the octa core version and which countries will get the Snapdragon version
http://goo.gl/EePDg

B) another question: the octa core version supports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?

darixtorento said:
B) another question: the octa core version upports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?
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Just to butt in, doesn't Exynos octa also have LTE support? I want to know what bands it supports.
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Comparison I9500 I9505, I cannot sleep because of this. Help me!

I have been in a terrible situation since the launching day of the galaxy s4. These days, all I have done is to gather all the information concerning these two models. Here is what I found out:
S4 I9500 Exynos 5:
+Excellent CPU performance.
+Excellent Sound chipset.
- Not support 4G
- GPU less performs worth than Adreno 320 (in game and in benchmarks)
- Expensive(in my country, I must import the octa core one from USA for a additionnal 100 euros)
S4 I9505 Snapdragon 600:
+Better GPU
+Support 4G
- sound chipset sounds worth than I9500 Wolfson
-Cpu performs worth than Exynos 5
So I still don't know which one should I get...Samsung is annoying by releasing two differnet models...They know how to make geeks nervous...I haven't slept well for a week. I cannot sleep if I can't decide which one should I get. Since this is a big deal, I must think carefully about it. So Please help me. Thank you in advance.

I would say get I9500. It has better chipset, better audio output. May be, we are getting sources very soon..
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I9500 supports LTE...

Rmansh said:
I9500 supports LTE...
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No my friend. It is official now...At least, 4G is not enable in I9500

Madawcisrich said:
I have been in a terrible situation since the launching day of the galaxy s4. These days, all I have done is to gather all the information concerning these two models. Here is what I found out:
S4 I9500 Exynos 5:
+Excellent CPU performance.
+Excellent Sound chipset.
- Not support 4G
- GPU less performs worth than Adreno 320 (in game and in benchmarks)
- Expensive(in my country, I must import the octa core one from USA for a additionnal 100 euros)
S4 I9505 Snapdragon 600:
+Better GPU
+Support 4G
- sound chipset sounds worth than I9500 Wolfson
-Cpu performs worth than Exynos 5
So I still don't know which one should I get...Samsung is annoying by releasing two differnet models...They know how to make geeks nervous...I haven't slept well for a week. I cannot sleep if I can't decide which one should I get. Since this is a big deal, I must think carefully about it. So Please help me. Thank you in advance.
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dude its obvious you didn't bother to search first....i already put up a link to an excellent video comparing them and answering all your questions....as for sound, just see gsm arena and you'll see that the audio tests for the snapdragon is better in quality to the previous s3 wolfson except for loudness..
USE THE SEARCH BAR OMG
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40983466&postcount=1

IMO that is a really personal choice, and in this case, I think there is not an objective right or wrong one. I would chose GT-I9500 due to the wolfston DAC, the higher potential I see in the Exynos and its allegedly better photo quality, since LTE, a little higher prize and the differences in GPU are not as important to me

Madawcisrich said:
No my friend. It is official now...At least, 4G is not enable in I9500
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sammobile said that I9500 supports this all and the reason of using two chips was the product issues...

Rmansh said:
sammobile said that I9500 supports this all and the reason of using two chips was the product issues...
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A lot of site said that 1 month ago. Just go to check everywhere now, it doesn't support 4G. samsung just said that the Exynos 5 is compatible with all band, it never said that Galaxy S4 I9500 support 4G and can connect through 4G.
adey64, I have already seen your video since 3 days...It is old information now...

Madawcisrich said:
I have been in a terrible situation since the launching day of the galaxy s4. These days, all I have done is to gather all the information concerning these two models. Here is what I found out:
S4 I9500 Exynos 5:
+Excellent CPU performance.
+Excellent Sound chipset.
- Not support 4G
- GPU less performs worth than Adreno 320 (in game and in benchmarks)
- Expensive(in my country, I must import the octa core one from USA for a additionnal 100 euros)
S4 I9505 Snapdragon 600:
+Better GPU
+Support 4G
- sound chipset sounds worth than I9500 Wolfson
-Cpu performs worth than Exynos 5
So I still don't know which one should I get...Samsung is annoying by releasing two differnet models...They know how to make geeks nervous...I haven't slept well for a week. I cannot sleep if I can't decide which one should I get. Since this is a big deal, I must think carefully about it. So Please help me. Thank you in advance.
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Take the I9500, it is Exynos man !

I have the 9500 sitting right next to me and I ca tell you it does not support LTE unless you get one of the Korean versions which is the only announced Octa with LTE at this time.
IMO get the snapdragon if you can make use of LTE. There are a good number of Octa versus snapdragon comparisons available now and the link the fellow was referring to is only one result. Looking at many results it does appear like the Octa has an advantage in a few areas but it is very small and nothing that appears to be something you would notice in day to day use. I just don't see a lot to hang your hat on with Octa that would be worth trading off LTE and I only did so because I don't have LTE in my area and wont for the foreseeable future so I thought I would give the Octa a spin and see if the better battery life being touted plays out.

Will both have the same number of dev supports?
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No, I think the snapdragon will see quite a bit more support. Won't be an issue with Sammy based ROMs but if you want to go CM and the like that's where it's going to get thin(ner).

Madawcisrich said:
A lot of site said that 1 month ago. Just go to check everywhere now, it doesn't support 4G. samsung just said that the Exynos 5 is compatible with all band, it never said that Galaxy S4 I9500 support 4G and can connect through 4G.
adey64, I have already seen your video since 3 days...It is old information now...
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oh i'm sorry then! in that case, you'd probably be interested in cm 10.1 or aosp at some point right? in which case it's an easy choice with the i9505 as the i9500 would be stuck in forever-nightly land due to exynos
btw i think real world gaming adreno 320 was better then the sgx as shown in 3d mark in the pocketnow video? correct me if im wrong..

adey64 said:
oh i'm sorry then! in that case, you'd probably be interested in cm 10.1 or aosp at some point right? in which case it's an easy choice with the i9505 as the i9500 would be stuck in forever-nightly land due to exynos
btw i think real world gaming adreno 320 was better then the sgx as shown in 3d mark in the pocketnow video? correct me if im wrong..
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Yes, so, I think I will take the snapdragon one, since it is cheaper, gpu performs better, 4G supported, sound quality quiet impressive according to GSMxxxx, siteweb. The only thing who disturbs me is the bad 4 core CPU...Shameful.

Nothing wrong with 4 cores
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hope you can sleep now! haha....the krait is a more power efficient (apparently) architecture than the a15's, you're by no means getting a worse device....and did you know the octa core implementation is not well done either...just look here...a clear indication this is new technology yet to be optimized to it's full potential...meaning you'd by no means be making a wrong decision with the i9505
http://pocketnow.com/2013/05/02/exynos-5-octa-efficency
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/05/02/samsungs-octa-core-not-as-energy-efficient-as-we-thought/

adey64 said:
hope you can sleep now! haha....the krait is a more power efficient (apparently) architecture than the a15's, you're by no means getting a worse device....and did you know the octa core implementation is not well done either...just look here...a clear indication this is new technology yet to be optimized to it's full potential...meaning you'd by no means be making a wrong decision with the i9505
http://pocketnow.com/2013/05/02/exynos-5-octa-efficency
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/05/02/samsungs-octa-core-not-as-energy-efficient-as-we-thought/
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Yes I saw that news too. But I have hoped that they will release some driver or patch to solve this problem. But yes, it is a drawback of the I9500 at the moment.
Well Just choose the i9505 from VirginMobile(a french telecommunication service), 15 euros/month subscription, and I pay 399 euros for the phone. It is a quiet good offer. Feel free to give me other advice for the comparison. Thank you

Holy shiit, I will become totally mad of this. I still cannot decide. Both have their advantage and both have drawbacks. I have already ordered the i9505, but really really like the ultime performace of the i9500 cpu and its wolfson sound chipset.
I ordered both but I still can cancel one of them. Any other advice for me so that I can decide quickly without any hesitation? Thank you

Madawcisrich said:
I have been in a terrible situation since the launching day of the galaxy s4. These days, all I have done is to gather all the information concerning these two models. Here is what I found out:
S4 I9500 Exynos 5:
+Excellent CPU performance.
+Excellent Sound chipset.
- Not support 4G
- GPU less performs worth than Adreno 320 (in game and in benchmarks)
- Expensive(in my country, I must import the octa core one from USA for a additionnal 100 euros)
S4 I9505 Snapdragon 600:
+Better GPU
+Support 4G
- sound chipset sounds worth than I9500 Wolfson
-Cpu performs worth than Exynos 5
So I still don't know which one should I get...Samsung is annoying by releasing two differnet models...They know how to make geeks nervous...I haven't slept well for a week. I cannot sleep if I can't decide which one should I get. Since this is a big deal, I must think carefully about it. So Please help me. Thank you in advance.
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look at this video,it might help you a bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wt5im3WAZYc

hunhool said:
look at this video,it might help you a bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wt5im3WAZYc
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I have already seen this video a thousand of time. It just shows how good the I9500 CPU is and how good the i9505 GPU is.

[Q] Help Plz...........N9005(Snapdragon 800) or N9000(Exynos 5420)?

Hey guys finally the day has come when i will upgrade to a new smartphone and luckily as i am not short on budget i have decided to buy Galaxy Note 3 which i think is the best Android smartphone nowadays......the problem is that in my country both versions are available and i am not sure which version is better so thought what place would be better than XDA to ask this question......i hope you guys will help me in taking the right decision.
Btw N9000($605) is about 30 usd cheaper than N9005($635) which though doesn't matter but i thought i should share this as well with you guys.
(Both are 32 gb variants)
Regards..!!!

Just watch the N9005, trick little prick if the service provider you're using is on bands 7/17, however the 9005 is a little better hardware wise! I personally don't think you'll noticed the difference!

Go 9005.
Firstly, Exynos only excels more in graphics department and its barely any better then what Snapdragon offers. Also the SD model is more widely available & the carrier choice due to FDD-LTE, Which means better longterm rom support between the two models.

N900 has 2.66 GB of total RAM
N9005 has 2.38 GB of total RAM

vndnguyen said:
N900 has 2.66 GB of total RAM
N9005 has 2.38 GB of total RAM
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Why does the N9005 has less free RAM?

SK_007 said:
Why does the N9005 has less free RAM?
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Honestly I dont know. I just notice the difference between 2 models.

vndnguyen said:
N900 has 2.66 GB of total RAM
N9005 has 2.38 GB of total RAM
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vndnguyen said:
Honestly I dont know. I just notice the difference between 2 models.
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I see but thanks anyway i wasn't aware of this!

But can the N900 read base that At&t run for their LTE?

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But can the N900 read base that At&t run for their LTE?
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n900 exynos doesn't support 4g LTE, hardware issue.

dont worry about the ram difference....they both have 3GB...its how each of the 2 versions reserves certain amounts for the gpu & other systems processes....(not sure of the EXACT things that do this....but i read it here in xda while deciding on the note 3 version myself).... but in my opinion i would suggest you go for the n9005....its a little better in terms of performance...as far as battery is concerned the snapdragon is better as my cousin owns a octa version & mine does considerably better....it has LTE & it has 4k video recording & playback support...something the octa version doesnt....so that means the n9005 is a bit more futureproof than the 9000 PLUS the n9005 has a more active developer support....

N900 is Exynos Variant which means the processor is developed by Samsung. The N9005 is Snapdragon Variant which means the processor is developed by Qualcomm. Overall I would prefer the Snapdragon 800 Variant as performance is much more excellent than Samsung's own Exynos.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

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dont worry about the ram difference....they both have 3GB...its how each of the 2 versions reserves certain amounts for the gpu & other systems processes....(not sure of the EXACT things that do this....but i read it here in xda while deciding on the note 3 version myself).... but in my opinion i would suggest you go for the n9005....its a little better in terms of performance...as far as battery is concerned the snapdragon is better as my cousin owns a octa version & mine does considerably better....it has LTE & it has 4k video recording & playback support...something the octa version doesnt....so that means the n9005 is a bit more futureproof than the 9000 PLUS the n9005 has a more active developer support....
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The last line can be a deal breaker in favor of N9005 as it would be very difficult for me to go for the variant which has considerably less developer support.......so as of now i am leaning towards N9005!

Btw i read somewhere that Samsung might release a patch which will enable all the 8 cores on N9000......is this true can anyone please confirm this?

Most Exynos users including me are suffering from poor battery life. N9005 users seem to enjoy 9 hours of screen on time, while me and some other N900 users get 4-5 hours maximum. So I'd say go with N9005.

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Most Exynos users including me are suffering from poor battery life. N9005 users seem to enjoy 9 hours of screen on time, while me and some other N900 users get 4-5 hours maximum. So I'd say go with N9005.
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And i thought that due to those 4 power saving A7 cores N9000 will have the better battery life lol...........thanks mate for telling me about battery life coz this is one of the primary things which i look for when choosing a smartphone..!!!

On my personal usage I had both snapdragon and exynos and eventually end up with keeping exynos for myself and gave snapdragon to my sis as exynos felt a bit snappier overall to me but in few games snapdragon had a slight advantage but the exynos was no less in some games exynos was better, and yes battery sucks with latest firmware update was excellent before so you can expect battery to be fixed with updates and if you have LTE in your country go with snapdragon, exynos makes no sense if you got LTE in your region and better development also goes to snapdragon, also today Samsung might announce something about their exynos processor @Ces and my guess is they will release the hmp which enables all 8 cores, though nothing sure keep an eye, so decide what you need, but in terms of performance pick either of them you wouldn't regret

sorry but the HMP patch to run all 8cores have been scraped a while back...so performance wise snapdragon is better...plus i have 2 exynos variants of samsung products at home...an s4 octa & a note 3 octa....dont know the reason why...but they started to bog down after a few weeks of usage....there arent many apps installed on either device, both rooted by me & debloated & running almost the same setup as my n9005...but mine is still as snappy as it was the day i got it :/ ....the current 5410 & 20 were experiments if you ask me.... i'd say the n9005 is the nobrainer choice when buying note 3

The devil's advocate
I'm surprised No one's mentioned how hot the snapdragon version gets under stress! I've never had a handheld device get so hot! No exaggeration, I sometimes worry if I should stop what im doing to allow the phone to cool. My friends exynos note 2 doesnt even get warm. I can attest to the battery life, atm I get 10hrs screen on time which includes reading rss feeds, music and light to medium web browsing. I was always under the impression the exynos version was better on battery, but some users seem to suggest otherwise. I bought the n9005 instead of n9000 because: 1. It was cheaper in my region.
2. To use LTE.
I dont regret buying the snapdragon version, but the performance difference between the two is negligible and the heat
issue really bothers me, so i must vote for the exynos, providing that the battery life isnt noticeably worse.
oh one more thing.. 3g+ is still quite fast and 4g lte is a battery hog, though the speeds are impressive.

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sorry but the HMP patch to run all 8cores have been scraped a while back...so performance wise snapdragon is better...plus i have 2 exynos variants of samsung products at home...an s4 octa & a note 3 octa....dont know the reason why...but they started to bog down after a few weeks of usage....there arent many apps installed on either device, both rooted by me & debloated & running almost the same setup as my n9005...but mine is still as snappy as it was the day i got it :/ ....the current 5410 & 20 were experiments if you ask me.... i'd say the n9005 is the nobrainer choice when buying note 3
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Go and have a [email protected] on Twitter, and you'll find something as #UnlockExynos which as assumed can be related to HMP, also if there's no HMP I wouldn't really care, I find the 5420 still great, and yeah galaxy s4 5410 that was a serious fail, I threw it out in 2 days of usage coz that 5410 processor was such a bullshi* but that isn't the case with 5420 but still it's own preference and way to think which is good or bad.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_and_note_3_wont_get_true_octacore_update-news-6908.php there mate....that unlockexynos thing that you speak of is probably the processor teaser for S5 which could be 64bit processor.....& S4 octa processor is the absolute pits.....the note 3's octa is a slight improvement...but i would still say the snapdragon is a better overall package....& thus a slightly better choice
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denski101 said:
I'm surprised No one's mentioned how hot the snapdragon version gets under stress! I've never had a handheld device get so hot! No exaggeration, I sometimes worry if I should stop what im doing to allow the phone to cool. My friends exynos note 2 doesnt even get warm. I can attest to the battery life, atm I get 10hrs screen on time which includes reading rss feeds, music and light to medium web browsing. I was always under the impression the exynos version was better on battery, but some users seem to suggest otherwise. I bought the n9005 instead of n9000 because: 1. It was cheaper in my region.
2. To use LTE.
I dont regret buying the snapdragon version, but the performance difference between the two is negligible and the heat
issue really bothers me, so i must vote for the exynos, providing that the battery life isnt noticeably worse.
oh one more thing.. 3g+ is still quite fast and 4g lte is a battery hog, though the speeds are impressive.
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sorry mate...but you may have gotten a faulty unit...as my snapdragon barely ever gets hot.....i played real racing 3, gt racing 2 & asphalt 8 nonstop with 100% battery until i drained it to 0% & the phone barely got warm....& as for battery life.....the snapdragon is quite a bit ahead of the exynos...i have 1 in the house so i can tell....also the performance difference may be negligible but its still visible...atleast to me