You have probably been reading lately a lot about huawei, that p10 have apparently different memory types, it is a lottery you have no idea which one you will get, but the speed difference turn out to be big.
Yesterday Huawei did also delete from their website that mate 9 have UFS 2.0 memory which seem suspicious .
So lets post your benchmarks here please so we can conclude people got DDR4 memory and not DDR3.
Also before benchmarking clean all apps in memory in phone manager and also in the app switcher. I recommend you use Androbench
here is my benchmark
here is mine L09C636
My benchmark are at some thread. I have a emmc internal memory not an UFS
This is mine from Mate 8 L29C185
So immense (factor of 2) differences can be observed here as well
My phone, of course, also falls in the "slow-department" :good:
Mine is below..
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Here is mine. AL10
@blackinfinity and @Pfeffernuss make sure there arent any other apps using your storage while ure benching. sure hope the differences seen here are only due to storage access and not the hardware type installed....
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I wonder what memory type our mate 8 phones should have.
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@blackinfinity and @Pfeffernuss make sure there arent any other apps using your storage while ure benching. sure hope the differences seen here are only due to storage access and not the hardware type installed....
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No apps running obviously (well, no apps that can't be quit easily that is)
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guys i need help there
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/help/help-problem-phone-heat-battery-help-t3595650
if any one can help me with this problem Please help me.
thanks all
seem I have gotten the slowest speed in the whole thread ? Mine was bought in sweden.
Roughly the same results as most here.
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I'm highly sure, that the benchmarked speed's doesn't tell us what type of memory was used. The results are inconsistent, and closing apps in the task manager doesn't mean they are completely closed in the background, they can still use the storage. There's a command you can run in a terminal emulator app, that can tell you witch type of memory was used in your phone, but it was written for the P10, i'm not sure it's working also with our phone, but i will test. Here's the command:
ls /proc/fs/*
If it shows sd*** below /proc/fs/f2fs, it's UFS.
If it show mmc*** below /proc/fs/f2fs, it's eMMC.
Edit: mine phone is using eMMC!
As i can remember the Mate8 wasn't advertised with UFS storage, so i'm guessing all units where made with eMMC. I'm not sure, its just a theory.
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I'm highly sure, that the benchmarked speed's doesn't tell us what type of memory was used. The results are inconsistent, and closing apps in the task manager doesn't mean they are completely closed in the background, they can still use the storage. There's a command you can run in a terminal emulator app, that can tell you witch type of memory was used in your phone, but it was written for the P10, i'm not sure it's working also with our phone, but i will test. Here's the command:
ls /proc/fs/*
If it shows sd*** below /proc/fs/f2fs, it's UFS.
If it show mmc*** below /proc/fs/f2fs, it's eMMC.
Edit: mine phone is using eMMC!
As i can remember the Mate8 wasn't advertised with UFS storage, so i'm guessing all units where made with eMMC. I'm not sure, its just a theory.
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I saw the live release event. UFS 2.0 was one of the selling points.
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I saw the live release event. UFS 2.0 was one of the selling points.
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Oh, thanks. That's bad news..
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As title above, I tho note 3 should having 3GB ram but somehow it only show 2.38G in task manager? If it was assigned to system why it shared so many to them? Other Samsung phone like note 2 and S4 only assigned like 0.2G ram to system?
Pls help~~~~
Thanks
xx1704xx said:
As title above, I tho note 3 should having 3GB ram but somehow it only show 2.38G in task manager? If it was assigned to system why it shared so many to them? Other Samsung phone like note 2 and S4 only assigned like 0.2G ram to system?
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That's because the rest is system reserved.
Gpu memory?
Is it the case that when Cyanogenmod/AOSP comes our way, they could release more usable RAM?
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The adreno 330 gpu supposedly reserves 0.5GB for itself.
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That's because the rest is system reserved.
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Is it possible to let it to release more ram for daily use? Just wonder not much in term of hardware (at least I think so) upgrade if compare with note 2 but in term of memory reserve,it seem like 3 time bigger than note 2...thank you very much
Guy, you have still 700MB more than other phones. You don't need more. I have all my apps opened and I still have 1GB free.. So dont worry
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Guy, you have still 700MB more than other phones. You don't need more. I have all my apps opened and I still have 1GB free.. So dont worry
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I can't believe you said that. =O (In the most dramatic voice possible and background music)
On my note 2 (2gb) I have to kill apps every few hours otherwise it's almost slow to the point I can't multi task and switch to different apps in a timely manner. You're the first I've ever heard say, "you don't need more [RAM]."
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Android 4.3 works fine on every 2Gig Device like Nexus.. Why should 3Gigs of RAM don't reach for 4.3 here?
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As said before the GPU in the S800 version saves .70gigs while the Exynos saves .34 gigs but not much of a biggie we have f**ing 3 gigs it doesn't affects us in almost anything unless you're multitasking while multitasking while multitasking while playing modern combat xzibit way XD
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As said before the GPU in the S800 version saves .70gigs while the Exynos saves .34 gigs but not much of a biggie we have f**ing 3 gigs it doesn't affects us in almost anything unless you're multitasking while multitasking while multitasking while playing modern combat xzibit way XD
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The adreno 330 gpu supposedly reserves 0.5GB for itself.
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That it is a samsung lie. Other phones with the SD800 and 2gb of ram gives the user 1.81gb like the LG G2 or the nexus 5 in screenshots.
So, if LG only takes 190mb of ram with the same processor, theres no reason to take 500 by samsung, or at least not by the GPU. And if samsung needs 700mb for the s-crapware preinstalled, well, thats unfortunate.
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I can't believe you said that. =O (In the most dramatic voice possible and background music)
On my note 2 (2gb) I have to kill apps every few hours otherwise it's almost slow to the point I can't multi task and switch to different apps in a timely manner. You're the first I've ever heard say, "you don't need more [RAM]."
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So much this, I can accept that to some people have a phone with 30 apps installed, but I have over 400, and even if I use greenify or autostarts to freeze a most of them, I use a lot of ram, and I also need to use ram managers, if the phone goes below 200mb, it becomes super ultra slow, so from 2.3 to 2.7 it is a huge improvement that I really want to have.
I have found my note 3 freezes considerably when only few apps are running in the background. I'm constantly closing apps via task manager which I didn't have to on my HTC one. So something clearly isn't working as it should. This was one of the reasons why i moved away from samsung phones in the past.
I do like note 3 but I can't help feeling it's over bloated. I've had 3 note 3's all have the same issue.
Having 4 hours of use since it came out of the box nothing has been slow about it, even while restoring and using the phone. Once again my 2 was lagging with a fair number of apps running in the background if I didn't kill it.
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Was running myrom revolution (tw base)
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kersh said:
So much this, I can accept that to some people have a phone with 30 apps installed, but I have over 400, and even if I use greenify or autostarts to freeze a most of them, I use a lot of ram, and I also need to use ram managers, if the phone goes below 200mb, it becomes super ultra slow, so from 2.3 to 2.7 it is a huge improvement that I really want to have.
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I have 382 apps installed, and my RAM sticks at 1.2GB in use even without closing anything... Drops to 800MB in use when I clean them (and a lovely '62 apps closed' popup).
So I have no idea what is eating so much on yours as to require RAMmanagers.
gordonzhao said:
I can't believe you said that. =O (In the most dramatic voice possible and background music)
On my note 2 (2gb) I have to kill apps every few hours otherwise it's almost slow to the point I can't multi task and switch to different apps in a timely manner. You're the first I've ever heard say, "you don't need more [RAM]."
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What are you doing on your phone? lol, I'll say "I" don't need more RAM, apparently you do
I have yet to see any major issues with ram. I often check my available ram and only on 1 occasion i have used over 2GB ram, and i had loads of apps still open.
Not had any system slow downs so far.
Ftr, mine showed about 1.8/2.3 and phone was slowing down already, this was due to me intentionally not killing any apps.
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the htc one shows 1.5 !!!
Seems to me, we have 2.39 GB RAM phones.
I wonder why Samsung lied about that.
xx1704xx said:
As title above, I tho note 3 should having 3GB ram but somehow it only show 2.38G in task manager? If it was assigned to system why it shared so many to them? Other Samsung phone like note 2 and S4 only assigned like 0.2G ram to system?
Pls help~~~~
Thanks
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Are u on JB or KK. when my phone is on JB its only 2.4 GB RAM so i flash stock firmware KK now its 2.71 GB
Sorry for bad eng
It seems that Encryption has got a big performance boost in 5.1.
I ran Androbench on my stock Nexus 6 running LMY47M.
My results using stock androbench settings.
Sequential Read|Write
161.53 MB/s | 74.75 MB/s
Random Read
20.0 MB/s, 5187.28 IOPS (4KB)
Random Write
7.98 MB/s, 2052.08 IOPS (4KB)
These numbers are actually higher than the unencrypted numbers AndroidPolice and Antutu reported back when the Nexus 6 first came out.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...us-6-encrypted-vs-unencrypted-its-not-pretty/
Yeah I'm not even gonna mess with unencrypting mine. It's as fast as me already. I don't care about benchmark numbers.
Here's my androbench decrypted.
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Using NEON instructions now. Should help a lot, though it's still not hardware accelerated.
neyenlives said:
Yeah I'm not even gonna mess with unencrypting mine. It's as fast as me already. I don't care about benchmark numbers.
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Since I have my work email on mine I've had mine encrypted from the beginning. Now I don't feel any performance hit though. I just ran the benchmark to make sure it was more than placebo.
donatom3 said:
Since I have my work email on mine I've had mine encrypted from the beginning. Now I don't feel any performance hit though. I just ran the benchmark to make sure it was more than placebo.
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Same here. I had to enable a pattern to be able to access exchange server. There are exchange security bypass hacks out there you can load to remove that dependency (was for the Note 3 anyways) but I'm gonna leave it be.
I'd like to see someone check how the CPU is hit during heavy I/O now.
Remember that it could be pegging the CPU in order to keep the data transfer fast, which would have an impact on CPU intense applications and battery life. Real world use includes I/O *simultaneous* with CPU. Benchmarks only test them separately.
This is good to see. Once 5.1 or whatever settles in, I'm going back to encrypted and locked down
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Here's my androbench decrypted.
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Also decrypted, results are pretty similar. Staying decrypted, phone is flying. Barely no stutters or lag.
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Also decrypted, results are pretty similar. Staying decrypted, phone is flying. Barely no stutters or lag.
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Random write is almost double as the decrypted phone hmmm , maybe it's still worth it to decrypt the phone
Chad_Petree said:
Random write is almost double as the decrypted phone hmmm , maybe it's still worth it to decrypt the phone
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I can't take that decision for you. I don't really care about encryption. If they steal my phone, and don't know my password they only can get data off my sd card. Which I don't really bother.. What bothers to me is how the phone feels. And I decrypted it on android 5.0.1 And the phone did feel allot faster. On 5.1 decrypted the phone feels just as fast, I haven't used 5.1 encrypted, so I can't tell the differnce on 5.1. But I think the phone wil feel faster decrypted. So you could give it a try.
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I can't take that decision for you. I don't really care about encryption. If they steal my phone, and don't know my password they only can get data off my sd card. Which I don't really bother.. What bothers to me is how the phone feels. And I decrypted it on android 5.0.1 And the phone did feel allot faster. On 5.1 decrypted the phone feels just as fast, I haven't used 5.1 encrypted, so I can't tell the differnce on 5.1. But I think the phone wil feel faster decrypted. So you could give it a try.
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I will, I'm actually waiting for the whole drama with the different 5.1 builds to be solved and then I will decrypt the phone
I was in the decrypted camp on 5.0... Didn't bother on 5.1 and honestly it's fast. No lag or stutters
My N6 still sucks opening apps. I'm so tired of this phone feeling slow. I still have my N5 because I'm procrastinating selling it but its running stock 5.0.1 and all the apps open instantly. I tested it against my decrypted N6 running 5.1, and my N6 is way behind.. Androbench says my sequential read speed is 187.72MB/s. Now if I reboot my phone it'll probably clear some apps from memory and do better idk I'll go try but either way sometimes it does better after a reboot, but it is nowhere near as fast as loading apps on my N5 and that bothers me so bad..
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OK after reboot its sequential read is at 192.84MB/s. Its performing a little better but this wears off for me. I can't keep rebooting my phone to get a little speed increase. Is that a bad result? Should my phone do better being decrypted? I can't stand it.
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Does the encryption go away once you root the device or is there a thread on how to decrypt the device?
KappaAce2010 said:
Does the encryption go away once you root the device or is there a thread on how to decrypt the device?
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Encryption and root are independent of each other. You can do either, or both in any combination.
Here's on thread on how to decrypt > http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/disable-forced-encryption-gain-root-t2946715
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I was in the decrypted camp on 5.0... Didn't bother on 5.1 and honestly it's fast. No lag or stutters
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This. It cant get much better!
I really hope Google comes out with a new Nexus 5 soon. I was hearing they were gonna do that. I'd rather get that and sell this phone if that phone ends up having faster storage speeds with similar specs. This phone is terrible.
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sionicion said:
I really hope Google comes out with a new Nexus 5 soon. I was hearing they were gonna do that. I'd rather get that and sell this phone if that phone ends up having faster storage speeds with similar specs. This phone is terrible.
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Any new phone will still use encryption and if Goog doesn't want to shell out the fees to Qualcomm it is still going to be software like it is now. Maybe a newer proc would be better at handling it though? Not sure.
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Any new phone will still use encryption and if Goog doesn't want to shell out the fees to Qualcomm it is still going to be software like it is now. Maybe a newer proc would be better at handling it though? Not sure.
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Its not encryption. My Nexus 6 is decrypted and still my Nexus 5 outperforms my N6 at opening apps.
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Hi, guys, check out this video. It seems Honor 8 is faster than Mate 9, despite its older hardware. Any idea why? http://bit.ly/2jS2SB1
Maybe its due to some kind of device optimization, thats maybe not fully done on mate 9. Maybe future updates will release full potential of device.
Maybe a fake review,there is a video cut after clearing recent applications.
And and mate 9 has sd card inserted this will slow it down little.
gm007 said:
Maybe a fake review,there is a video cut after clearing recent applications.
And and mate 9 has sd card inserted this will slow it down little.
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It can be like that.
Imagine what we could do if we had a custom kernel.
If it has one of the older versions they have lower performance than the new ones.
Wake Up! Your having a bad dream!
My mate goes faster then the one shown on the video.
I read that Oxygen OS is designed to run at the most 32 apps at the same time...
But with 8 GB of RAM, this a waste of memory I think... is there any way to set a high limit or infinite?
thank you!!
Astur_Torque said:
I read that Oxygen OS is designed to run at the most 32 apps at the same time...
But with 8 GB of RAM, this a waste of memory I think... is there any way to set a high limit or infinite?
thank you!!
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build.prop has a line you can change
DespairFactor said:
build.prop has a line you can change
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Thanks i found it:
ro.sys.fw.bg_apps_limit
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what limit should we set?
I'm sure I read that people were setting it around 45 although who runs 45 applications at the same time? (I don't think background system processes count in that)
Lol
Who runs 32 apps at once?
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I don't think I have 32 apps installed lol
I don't have any proof to back up my claim, but I believe OxygenOS uses a portion of the RAM for optimizations and performance. Hence why the 8GB variant seems to be slightly faster than the 6GB variant.
L22EEW said:
Lol
Who runs 32 apps at once?
?
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8 GB of RAM is a huge amount of RAM, don't using it is wasting it
zathus said:
I don't think I have 32 apps installed lol
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system apps also count
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system apps also count
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This is what I've had it at since I received it. Using this phone is too much fun... Everything is so smooth, quick, and responsive.
I have 8GB model
Titanium backup says k have 208 user apps and 138 system apps.
I set my cap to 60 or 65. Right now im at 65 with swap enabled and the phone keeps practically an infinite amount of things in memory.
OcazPrime said:
I set my cap to 60 or 65. Right now im at 65 with swap enabled and the phone keeps practically an infinite amount of things in memory.
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How did you enable swap memory? is that another line in build prop?
MrWilsonxD said:
How did you enable swap memory? is that another line in build prop?
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Its usually enabled by default
how need 8GBRAM ?
the answer is " i am "
Just setting up phone and with nothing on yet, when I connect to my laptop it says I have 100gig to use, can it be that 28 gig is being used by the system?? surely not...
2 things to remember:
A) Formatting
B) PH-1, just like Pixel devices, uses an A/B partition scheme. Which has the benefit of online updates, but the con of eating much more space.
Jostian said:
Just setting up phone and with nothing on yet, when I connect to my laptop it says I have 100gig to use, can it be that 28 gig is being used by the system?? surely not...
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I just reverted back to Nougat because of performance issues on Oreo 8.1 beta. I have installed apps and music and not much else and this is what I have for system usage 15.9GB.
I also wouldn't believe what Winblows says for storage, it's hardly ever right. And I do agree with Skripa, A/B partitions will limit the amount of usable storage. How much stuff do put on your phone anyway?
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I just reverted back to Nougat because of performance issues on Oreo 8.1 beta. I have installed apps and music and not much else and this is what I have for system usage 15.9GB.
I also wouldn't believe what Winblows says for storage, it's hardly ever right. And I do agree with Skripa, A/B partitions will limit the amount of usable storage. How much stuff do put on your phone anyway?
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Not much, just curious about the amount the OS takes, never had an issue with storage available on windows, shows and amount on phone...
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I noticed this too. After installing 8.1 B1 system is taking up 22GB! That's a ton. Does anyone know how much space System takes up on a device that hasn't but updated to Oreo? I just checked a Pixel XL...it uses 7.4GB for System on 8.1.
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I noticed this too. After installing 8.1 B1 system is taking up 22GB! That's a ton. Does anyone know how much space System takes up on a device that hasn't but updated to Oreo? I just checked a Pixel XL...it uses 7.4GB for System on 8.1.
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You have A/B partitioning... Meaning you have 2 copies of the OS on system... One A... And one B... With corresponding boot.img...
True. But I believe that's what the Pixel does as well.
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You have A/B partitioning... Meaning you have 2 copies of the OS on system... One A... And one B... With corresponding boot.img...
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True. But I believe that's what the Pixel does as well.
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And... Stone cold guess... Pixel takes the other slot... And ignores it... Since that's the phone the system was designed on...
You realize that once the partition is labeled system... You don't get the space back... It will always be system... Even if unused...
Unless you do the big no-no and try to change the partition table
My 8.1 shows up at 21GB.
I see post like the OP for every device.
The OS takes up part of the 128GB, get over it.
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My 8.1 shows up at 21GB.
I see post like the OP for every device.
The OS takes up part of the 128GB, get over it.
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Yes, I was just curious as to the amount taken up , no need to get snotty...
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Yes, I was just curious as to the amount taken up , no need to get snotty...
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I apologize.
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I apologize.
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No problem bud
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