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Buy or not Meizu M5 PRO? Or rather a Nexus 6P?

Meizu 5 Pro has best processor of Android (Exynos 7420), sd card, nice AMOLED screen with 1080P, great battery (4th on battery life tests this year), and great price also (450 Euros).
But is Meizu....
¿Do you think is a good buy?
Or would be better a Huawei 6P with
Google support for two years and stereo speakers
Better camera and screen
but
Worse battery and processor
No sd
More expensive (200 euros more)
¿Does Meizu give software support with latest Android? ¿Which one you prefer? (you can put other smarthphones on the equation also)

I want to answer your question by comparing both phones in each category.
Design:
I started with design part because, for me it's very important part. I like meizu pro 5 design much more than 6p not saying 6p is not good but, 2.5D glass with looking similar to Iphone in front is not a bad thing in meizu and better than 6p here. I prefer Fingerprint as a home button on meizu at the front much more than in 6p at the back. ( Not to mention how innovative home button of meizu will change the way of using this phone when you getting used to it and you cannot compare it with any other android phone). Also design of meizu at the back is also more beautiful in my opinion as it's a little similar to htc one series. Also 10g less weight in meizu should be a little more suitable in hand.
Camera:
About camera in meizu it does pretty decent job in good light maybe even better than 6p specially better in detail comparison but, in low light you should either use manual mode or accept quality of auto mod which is not bad but, differently 6p is better but, not much better.
Selfie with front camera is definitely better (more detail) in 6p but, for internet both do good job here.
Processor:
The main problem in 6p is qualcomm 810 processor which is a big no for me specially compare to Exynos 7420 which is arguably the best in the market for now (even compare to karin 950) and you will never feel a hot phone in your hand or lag due to hot temperature of cpu and much more energy efficient than Q 810. (Not fan of Antutu benchmarks but, recently Meizu take the crown from Huawei karin 950 chipset in Huawei Mate 8!)
Softwere:
On the other hand meizu apparently is new to world market and cannot support their phone like google but, in future with custom roms it will be okay I think (do not expect near future!) Meizu does not come with unlock bootloader and apparently there is no way to unlock it and it may take so long to either someone manage to unlock it (very difficult + lack off good developers due to less popularity of meizu and the phone itself) or company give us a way to do it so, do not except support of developers or company like 6p. Meizu will definitely upgrade meizu pro 5 to marshmallow but, time is unknown.
Also if you really like pure android experience which I don't! heavily skin of Flyme OS on top of android in meizu may become a big problem for you. Lack of app drawer or design of home screen or even default apps are not a big deal as you can get a good launchers now a day specially with htc sense launcher and apps but, other part like setting menu and notification drawer and etc will be always the flyme one!
Screen
Comparing the screen, there should not be much differences as both phones using very similar amoled technology and panel. Yes 2k vs full hd but, 2k display of 6p is not as good as samsung new flagships like gs6 or note 5. Brightness of both phones are almost similar. I don't think you will notice the differences here in display part in daily usage because, differences of 2k displays are not very recognizable in human eyes in phones bellow 7" screens. But, if it does for you it's just a little more sharper but, not better in contrast, color and etc.
In 6p you will get gorilla glass 4 which is better when you drop the phone and can manage much more pressure here but, not as good as gorilla glass 3 (meizu pro 5) in scratch resistance part. If you use screen protector no problem here for both phones.
Audio:
Yes 6p has dual speaker in front which is more suitable when watching something or listening to musics with speakers but, meizu on the other hand support Hi-Fi audio so, provide much better quality sound specially when you plug a headphone which 6p was unfortunately poor here.
Hardware/Connectivity/Network/Battery:
Lack of memory support is again a big downside of 6p compare to meizu plus 2 sim in meizu vs 1 in 6p (in meizu 2 sim if you don't use sd card) .
For connectivity both doing great and not very different here. You have more 4g bands support in 6p but, if you don't live in USA you will not loose here. Meizu definitely is much better in battery part as you know so, no more words here. Also meizu charge the battery a little faster than 6p specially if you charge 6p with retail charger in it's package which the plug is weaker than meizu fast charger plug. (No need to buy faster plug in meizu).
Okay I don't know if I left anything else and hope it helps you to choose the best option but, personally I will choose meizu here as you mention the price of 6p I don't think it wrote 200 euro more just for a little better camera, speaker and screen VS it's downs. But, if you cannot live without latest version of android and faster support of google or with Flyme OS of meizu better to go for 6p. ( The only real downside of meizu compare to 6p currently before unlocking the bootloader of pro 5)

DanielGatti said:
Meizu 5 Pro has best processor of Android (Exynos 7420), sd card, nice AMOLED screen with 1080P, great battery (4th on battery life tests this year), and great price also (450 Euros).
But is Meizu....
¿Do you think is a good buy?
Or would be better a Huawei 6P with
Google support for two years and stereo speakers
Better camera and screen
but
Worse battery and processor
No sd
More expensive (200 euros more)
¿Does Meizu give software support with latest Android? ¿Which one you prefer? (you can put other smarthphones on the equation also)
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If you look at the prices, i will go for Letv Lemax, the most powerful android phone, that will be out soon and will cost about 530 USD with new snapdragon 820 and with antutu benchmark about 120 000. It have 64/128GB ROM, 4GB ram, QHD dipley, 21 MPX camera, USB 3.0 type C, atc.

Kubas_inko_CZ said:
If you look at the prices, i will go for Letv Lemax, the most powerful android phone, that will be out soon and will cost about 530 USD with new snapdragon 820 and with antutu benchmark about 120 000. It have 64/128GB ROM, 4GB ram, QHD dipley, 21 MPX camera, USB 3.0 type C, atc.
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6.33-inch display! wow huge for a phone!
Plus 2 MP front camera is not good for selfie + not amoled screen + 3400mAh battery definitely is not good in 2k IPS LCD display and you should wait at least 3 more months if not more for outside of china; And 530 usd price (price of 32gb with no expandable storage) is unconfirmed and if it cost 530$ it will be in china not outside so, definitely expect 600$+
The only upside is the cpu which we don't know how well it's until it comes out plus OIS in camera. Qualcome did awful job in 810

I've used both and the camera on the Meizu is far better than the 6P.

Mi 5s vs Mi 5

So I was really considering on buying the 5s but now thinking is it really worth it?
They are boasting about the camera but they removed OIS! IR blaster though that's not a deal breaker. Guess camera is the highlight really
Here's a decent video https://youtu.be/ffO30N8OxtM

I'm actually contemplating about the same choice. I almost bought Mi 5 Prime with 3GB RAM, but was a bit hesitant because of the following things:
Mi 5 is one of the easiest bend-breakable phones so you need some sturdy case to mitigate bend break problem
(un)availability of custom ROMs as I don't think I'd like running MIUI on the long run. I would rather put some as vanilla as possible OS on it
Ordering from China is a bit risky
But in the meantime Mi 5S came out and I really like that it has aluminium back and upgraded processor although I'm not sure whether there's significant performance difference between the two. But if I do buy myself Mi 5S, I'll likely have to wait for a longer time before I'll be able to get some vanilla Android on it. Pixel is just too crazy expensive.
I guess I'll wait a bit until we get some feedback from the community to see how well this device is built and performs.

Just my 2 cents:
1) OIS on the Mi5s is not available for the sensor atm, might be, "might be" due to its large sensor. (As Google Pixel phones do not have OIS as well)
-On the bright side, the DIS works like a charm :3
2) If you want to get yourself "Daydream VR ready", do get the Mi5s as the Snapdragon 821 supports it~ (even though the performance increase is not skyrocket high)
3) After watching several videos from Youtube about Mi5 and Mi5s, camera performance is in fact increased for the Mi5s.
-However, low light scenario based pictures and videos would have varying results I suppose.
-Since it uses the same sensor as Google Pixel but not as great as Google Pixel's camera quality, future updates "might" be able to increase the Mi5s camera performance. (Or maybe even custom ROMs).
4) From what I heard on chinese Mi5s reviews/hands on, the ultrasonic fingerprint reader's performance may vary. Might be due to its 'newborn' nature (it is a new tech, so optimisation might not be optimal).
5) Like what literadesign mentioned, the Mi5 surely is a "bendable" phone. I assume that Mi5s alloy body would have make it less bendable. (Hard to say, do not just buy it to try its bendable level lel)
In the end, it is all about your choice~

Damn, didn't know the mi5 bends easy. The mi5 with 4way axis is a joke, seen some vids
What other alternatives are the part from op3? Mayne Zuk z2 pro

Xiaomi Mi 6 Specifications

Xiaomi Mi 6 has been officially sold last April 28 in China, which was completely sold out immediately. Here are the basic specifications of Xiaomi Mi 6:
CPU: Snapdragon 835 Octa Core 2.45GHz
GPU: Adreno 540
RAM: 6GB LPDDR4x
ROM: 64GB / 128GB
SCREEN: 5.15-inch FHD display
CAMERAS: Dual Rear Cameras 12MP (with 2X optical zoom), Front Camera 8MP
Source: http://www.chinaphonereview.com/xiaomi-mi-6
The body is covered with 4-sided 3D curved glass with stainless steel frame. Ceramic version is also available. Great phone in my opinion, considering the fact that the price is about half of Samsung Galaxy S8.

So what?

For people who cannot afford or don't want to spend $800 for high-end phones, this is actually a great deal for them.

toffzter said:
For people who cannot afford or don't want to spend $800 for high-end phones, this is actually a great deal for them.
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Samsung is not expensive,Sony is a better choose.

But Xiaomi is much cheaper than those phones with comparable specs and quality.

Now, the price of xiaomi mi6 128GB is $500

toffzter said:
But Xiaomi is much cheaper than those phones with comparable specs and quality.
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Only in China.

It's still cheaper than the mainstream brands even if you buy it from online resellers that cater to international customers.

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樱trick said:
请尽快开发出rom
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Speak English please.

I was wondering about camera sensor , do we have this info ? It´s a sony sensor , which one?
Best Regards

bynext said:
I was wondering about camera sensor , do we have this info ? It´s a sony sensor , which one?
Best Regards
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imx386 and s5k3m3,the front one is imx286.

Thanks for fast answer , I´m waiting for mi 6 pro, with mx400 l, I don´t even know if they will utilize this sensor.But I hope.

hbbxmjbb said:
imx386 and s5k3m3,the front one is imx286..
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Maybe Mi Note 3, maybe none.

hbbxmjbb said:
imx386 and s5k3m3,the front one is imx286.
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Correction, front one is IMX 268, not IMX 286.

ArcOnFire said:
Correction, front one is IMX 268, not IMX 286.
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Thanks a lot.

Who all is buying it?

So who all's planning to buy the OnePlus 5? What do you think of the recent leaks and rumors?

If it has 5.5" - 6" FHD display with a bezeless design without 2.5D glass, a dezent battery (3600mAh+) and headphone jack i will buy it.

Hirs_E_Fruit said:
If it has 5.5" - 6" FHD display with a bezeless design without 2.5D glass, a dezent battery (3600mAh+) and headphone jack i will buy it.
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What he said!!! 100%

Hola
I am worried about the rumours talking about this version being among the thinnest phones on the market. If this is true then based on recent trends it usually means a smaller battery. This will certainly be a deal breaker for me assuming this is true...
Let's see what they come up with.
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I'm buying it for sure

Depends if it has a 1440P screen. I don't want them to go 1080P pentile again. I have a 3T I just got so I'm not in a big hurry. The snapdragon 835 isn't a huge increase in speed over the snapdragon 821.

Oh so very close to buying it. Depends slightly on specs, and more if the Bank of Wife™ will finance it for Fathers day

I'd buy it if they have astounding results with it. The camera leaks sound great, larger battery 3600+ should be ok (i have confidence in them increasing the battery because they stuffed 400mAh into the same size chassis for the 3t i think they can do more), 1080p AMOLED screen, Snap 835 or 850, alert slider again, awesome fingerprint scanner like the 3t even the same one would be perfect no complaints there, good speaker or speakers dont care where they are as long as they arent on the back, stronger vibraton motor AND that headphone jack better stay put. If it doesnt i wont mind, i use my bluetooth headphones more anyways. If its under 500 or at 500 ill buy it.

BoboBrazil said:
Depends if it has a 1440P screen. I don't want them to go 1080P pentile again. I have a 3T I just got so I'm not in a big hurry. The snapdragon 835 isn't a huge increase in speed over the snapdragon 821.
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Why do you want a 1440p Screen?

Waiting to see if they add a better DAC/AMP combo the Axon 7 Audio was no joke for it's price if OP can improve it for the OP5 I'll pick it up

I'm considering it. I'll have to take a look at the final product and if it's killer I'll go for it. It'd have to really be an upgrade from the OnePlus 3. If the differences are not that big then it won't be worth the buy.

Can't wait to get my hands on this bebe!! gonna be sweet.

I came to oneplus from the Note 7 and I'm likely to get the Note 8 when it comes out. I"m keeping my eye on this one as runner up in case the international Note 8 cant be rooted.

Will buy if,
a - Good battery life
b - Non rattling vibrating motor
c - better camera
d - Improvements in the UI / features
e - headphone jack
f - IP68 rating

I like 2.5D glass, i like the leaked design, in black, hope for 1440p display if it's amoled.. and good battery. I'm in.

flagship killer price, not flagship price, and im in..

Can't wait til it's released. Hopefully the camera will be as good as they say it is.
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because VR

Agree with everyone here! I don't mind if the phone comes with an FHD screen because I really don't see any difference between FHD and QHD. As long as they keep it affordable, there will definitely be a purchase from me.

I'm in
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Owning a Nexus 6P right now.
And I am considering the S8, Xperia XZ, Pixel Xl and Op5.
I have used a Op2 before and loved it, hope this is even better.

impressive copy of Xiaomi Mix

ELEPHONE S8
- 6.0 Inch Corning Gorilla Glass Sharp 2K Screen, 2560*1440 Pixel
- Helio X25 MTK6797T 2.5GHz Deca Core
- Support Touch ID
- 4GB RAM + 64GB ROM
- 21 MP Sony Back Camera + 8 MP Sony Front Camera
- Android 7.1 System
- 4000mAh Battery, Support PE+ Quick Charge
- Aluminum metal body & 3D Curved Lumia Glass Back Design
- Dual SIM: NANO SIM + NANO SIM, Not Support TF Card
- Band: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, WCDMA 900/2100MHz,
FDD-LTE B1/B3/B7/B20, Support 2G & 3G & 4G LTE Network
For ~ 220 €
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmL5Iqq-pIM
I have myself the Xiaomi Mix but im impressed with this copy considering it has A MUCH BETTER CAMERA THAN a 600 € Phone and the FP is in front of the device.
Is this the next bang for the buck phone ?
discuss

Screen size & processor the only let down.

I never owned an elephant before but the specs looks good for the price

My Opinion is based on research and this reviews from devicespecifications .com
- No headphone jack (Mi Mix has one of the best DACs in a phone, with 24bit 192kHz)
- 4000 mAh battery, but for that size average SoT of 4h real usage and 6 videos only (Mi Mix has about double the SoT, about the best SoT any flagship has to offer)
- Nowadays small absolute price diffrence, for a device intended to be kept for 2 years. For a short time the Mi Mix was available in septembre for 399 DOLLARS, bought mine last week for 384 Euros.
- Elephone isn't good at optimising their system. Hiccups although the x25 should be potent enough
- Display quality, about half as bright with 250cd/m² to 500cd/m². Higher black levels and worse contrast ratio compared to the Mi Mix.
+ The Elephone S8 is very compact for 16:9 with 6inch. I think many would prefer that size over the one of the Mi Mix.
+ More durable due to the metal frame in case of a fall, and the back is plastic, not glass (false advertising)
+ Sensors and reception seem to be all right, not very good but acceptable
+ B20 Support
+ I trust you that the camera is better, but if the camera is important, close to all chinese phones including the Mi Mix suck relatively speaking. It's literally the thing they cut costs with, everything above an LG G2 or a Galaxy S3 has a better camera, that's how much they suck.
General Opinion: All those copies, Maze Alpha, Elephone S8, Leagoo Mix, Umi Crystal Mix, all they do is using the tri-bezelless design, although they cheat even more with their pics than xiaomi does, with larger bezzels. But they lack all the other stuff that makes the mix outstanding, without mentioning the display (one of the best sounding DACs with 3.5mm jack, a big battery with GOOD battery life, premium feel).
Not bad for the price, better than some Mi Mix copies. But it's no bang for the buck, no deal. +50€ and it would be too expensive for what it delivers. There are Mix clones for 50€ less that will give you the same user experience. It stands no ground against the Mi Mix.
The Vernee Mix 2 going to be released this month seems to be more promising on the design with acceptable specs for 160€, more what I call bang for the buck compared to the clones we have. It won't compete with the mi mix, but it may be an overall good device without any big flaws. If it delivers.

Elephone = Bad support + Bad ROM...
Need more improvment before considering to be impressive !

I've found that any device that isn't running a snapdragon either sucks badly and / or has terrible software support.
Not trying to be stereotypical here but I've had my share of devices and this is what it boiled down to.
This is also the main reason why I tend to stay far far away from those nowadays.

Does exist an AOSP custom rom for an MTK Helio?
That's the bottleneck in my opinion...

nr-thunder said:
Mi Mix has one of the best DACs in a phone, with 24bit 192kHz.
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I'm having trouble finding info about the Mi Mix DAC. Can you elaborate or point me to more info? Is it known which DAC is in the Mi Mix? Is it fully supported in LiniageOS 14.1?

scotto541 said:
I'm having trouble finding info about the Mi Mix DAC. Can you elaborate or point me to more info? Is it known which DAC is in the Mi Mix? Is it fully supported in LiniageOS 14.1?
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Unfortunately I haven't found the name of the model. It is a dedicated 24bit 192khz DAC according to the review from devicespecifactions...com and many other reviews, although everyone may repeats what somebody else said because I haven't found a real verification in any review. BTW the qualcomm inbuilt DAC of the SD821 also has 24bit 192khz. I've also read that many OEMs restrict the Qualcomm DAC in some way, so even with the same Qualcomm DAC there may be diffrences. In a comparison review with the mate 9 and honor note 8 from Techzilla, he praised it and said that it is comparable to the HTC 10. I didn't open the device, but my personal comparison with the galaxy note 4 it sounds a little bit better.. It definetly is louder (50% Mix = GN4 70%), and also has a bit more punch even if I go a little bit lower with the volume, if I am not biased by my expactations (using 10€ KZ ZST). There is also a reddit discussion (google mi mix dac), where BENQ3000 could use the mi mix with hard to drive headphones which require more juice. In the end it's noticable, but the Qualcomm DACs sound very good too with most headphones. I think AOSP ROMs would use the Qualcomm DAC, if I disable Hi-Fi audio in the settings it still sounds good too me, so go with the ROM you like regardless. As long as there is no clipping or other issues it doesn't really matter, the DAC is not powerful enough to replace my real amplifier for my 100Watts desktop speakers anyway .