Moderation? - Huawei Mate 9 Pro Questions & Answers

Shouldn't this subforum be more moderated? Like almost every other phone subforum on this site. I feel like this subforum is unmoderated, and unfinished.

I have for a long time thought about the same.

Recyclebin. said:
Shouldn't this subforum be more moderated? Like almost every other phone subforum on this site. I feel like this subforum is unmoderated, and unfinished.
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Anders6 said:
I have for a long time thought about the same.
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We try our best but can't be everywhere, there are so many forums and threads its almost impossible to check them all on a daily basis. Please please use the RP button on any thread or post that needs moderator attention and we will deal with it.
We really do rely on you guys to help us
Regards
Sawdoctor

sawdoctor said:
We try our best but can't be everywhere, there are so many forums and threads its almost impossible to check them all on a daily basis. Please please use the RP button on any thread or post that needs moderator attention and we will deal with it.
We really do rely on you guys to help us
Regards
Sawdoctor
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It is not that people do not behave. Its that this phome needs all the categories, like almost every other smartphone. Like general, guides, rom etc

Recyclebin. said:
It is not that people do not behave. Its that this phome needs all the categories, like almost every other smartphone. Like general, guides, rom etc
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Please please use this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1976627
we really want to listen to you guys and welcome any feedback positive or negative. Any forum requests made in this thread will be listened to
Kind Regards
Sawdoctor

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In-Call Music Software

Hi
is there such a thing as a software that can play background music while
calling or receiving a phone call?
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Hi
is there such a thing as a software that can play background music while
calling or receiving a phone call?
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Been discussed a ton of times already. Please use search and don't post new threads until you have searched completely.
curious george said:
Been discussed a ton of times already. Please use search and don't post new threads until you have searched completely.
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How bout instead of just telling everyone to use the search you hint them on what to look for as far as the name of software that you seem to be aware of....
im curious too. is there any software like that
I also would like such a software...
raidzx said:
How bout instead of just telling everyone to use the search you hint them on what to look for as far as the name of software that you seem to be aware of....
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Because this is a development thread. Where people develope programs and provide assistance on them. Its not the yellow pages. No one here works for you. We are not your secrateries. New threads like this clog up the forum and make it difficult for those of us who use search. Take some time to read the forum rules.
Here is the hint. Top of this page to the right is a "Search" button. Its just below your name. Use it to search the contents of your original subject line of this thread. If you can copy/paste the http address of your search result to prove to me you did your due dilegents, but still cant find your answer, I will help you learn how to use search properly so you don't continue to post new threads. But at this point I don't think you have used more than 2 minutes of your time searching on your own.
CG
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326590
I guess do unto to others as they do unto you. This might be a development forum not thread.
curious george said:
Because this is a development thread. Where people develope programs and provide assistance on them. Its not the yellow pages. No one here works for you. We are not your secrateries. New threads like this clog up the forum and make it difficult for those of us who use search. Take some time to read the forum rules.
Here is the hint. Top of this page to the right is a "Search" button. Its just below your name. Use it to search the contents of your original subject line of this thread. If you can copy/paste the http address of your search result to prove to me you did your due dilegents, but still cant find your answer, I will help you learn how to use search properly so you don't continue to post new threads. But at this point I don't think you have used more than 2 minutes of your time searching on your own.
CG
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Wow, never before have I seen such "jerk" behavior at xda deverlopers. I know the person should have searched and I'm not discounting that fact, but there is NO reason to jump down someone's throat with that tone. Sorry, I'm a Japanese and I ever saw how much loathing and hatred went into your post. Next time, please do more courteous behavior... if not, I hate to think of how people will treat you.
raidzx said:
How bout instead of just telling everyone to use the search you hint them on what to look for as far as the name of software that you seem to be aware of....
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The reason people tell you to search is because this site, like any other activity has rules. One of them is to READ and SEARCH to find the answers yourself before you post a question that has been answered in numerous other locations. While some people may be overly aggressive in their suggestion that you use the search function, it does not make their point any less valid. There are a lot of people on this site, and all of them are volunteers. Nobody gets paid to be here. When you decide that you're gonna clutter the forum with threads and posts that have already been answered very thoroughly in easily searchable locations then it just makes it more difficult for people who actually do know how to use the site properly to find anything. So in the future, if you have an interesting idea (which you did) then do some looking to see if maybe somebody else had that same idea and post your thoughts there. That way everyone who is interested in that idea can go to one place to follow any development that happens there. Otherwise you are basically saying to all the people who put a lot of time in here, that you think your time is more valuable than their's. Which puts us in this perpetual cycle of people who don't know anything complaining because the people who do know the answers want them to learn how to find the answers rather than just giving them the answer.
illuminarok said:
Wow, never before have I seen such "jerk" behavior at xda deverlopers. I know the person should have searched and I'm not discounting that fact, but there is NO reason to jump down someone's throat with that tone. Sorry, I'm a Japanese and I ever saw how much loathing and hatred went into your post. Next time, please do more courteous behavior... if not, I hate to think of how people will treat you.
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see my post above, the tone was no nearly as hostile as you took it, and as you spend more time on this site you will understand why some people sometimes go overboard in their frustration. I appreciate your effort to encourage civility toward each other when we are posting.
skatdawg said:
the tone was no nearly as hostile as you took it,
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Yes it was.
bartybet said:
Yes it was.
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Then you don't read enough threads around here, as flaming goes (especially for people who don't search before starting new threads) it is pretty mild.
skatdawg said:
Then you don't read enough threads around here, as flaming goes (especially for people who don't search before starting new threads) it is pretty mild.
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Still rude. But he was really helpful to the guy.
by helping people who don't follow the rules, you only encourage such behavor.
TheSeanTeam said:
by helping people who don't follow the rules, you only encourage such behavor.
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Agreed!! Way to put it.
bartybet said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326590
I guess do unto to others as they do unto you. This might be a development forum not thread.
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Search the entire forum. In fact google the interenet for the question I posted in that thread. It is no where to be found. And it was a development idea posted in a development thread after all that searching had been done. Your not comparing apples to apples. In fact there is no comparable comparison.
Anybody got an answer to that thread let me know b/c it still hasn't been solved!!!! LMFAO!!
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Search the entire forum. In fact google the interenet for the question I posted in that thread. It is no where to be found. And it was a development idea posted in a development thread after all that searching had been done. Your not comparing apples to apples. In fact there is no comparable comparison.
Anybody got an answer to that thread let me know b/c it still hasn't been solved!!!! LMFAO!!
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I guess by bumping the thread three months later you didn't get the hint that no one was going to answer. Might be your attitude.
bartybet said:
I guess by bumping the thread three months later you didn't get the hint that no one was going to answer. Might be your attitude.
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No jackwad I researched at a time that S2U, Picture Flow Software, Contact Programs, and Music Players being reworked was in its prime. So, I knew that it was being overlooked. Really dude, you don't want to continue to go tit for tat with me!! You weren't even a member at that time!!!
Just agree that new threads are reserved for new ideas and program that have not been done before. And that we should discourage all the lame threading.
curious george said:
Just agree that new threads are reserved for new ideas and program that have not been done before. And that we should discourage all the lame threading.
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I can do that. If you can be less of a dip**** towords those that might.
bartybet said:
I can do that. If you can be less of a dip**** towords those that might.
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I was less of a dip**** and it continued to happen. At least this is getting some attention that may make a noticable difference of noob's continuing down the same old path of ask questions first, search as a last result.
It would be great if the Moderators would put a sticky at the bottom of the sticky posts for this forum titled "How to Use Search before you post a New Thread" since noob's aren't even taking the time to read the forum rules. While their at it make the title of the sticky thread alway stay BOLD even if no new posts are made in it.
Hey Mods!!!! What do you think of that idea???
Curious G

Fed up with ppl posting question in the dev forum

Admin... mods...
Quite a few people of being plain stupid and posting non-dev related question/topics in the dev forum... it's kinda becoming a a mess...
no I don't blame the admin or mods... i blame the ppl doing this stupid thing... HELLO!!! can't u guys see "Development forum" and understand that it's specific to dev stuff???
BTW, if you guys need help with getting ride of crap like this, I'm ready to help!!!
Posts like this are just as annoying..
nothing really you can do to help.
They should change that stickied thread to state, "please post any question threads in the general section." or something like that. What it says now really doesn't mean anything to me.
This is coming someone who was once guilty of this act. As a noob to that forum I thought, "hey a development section, i got a question about development, guess it goes here. "
Its quite easy to see all of them are making this mistake.
They really need to just change it so that completely new threads need to be approved (not posts).
aldo37 said:
They really need to just change it so that completely new threads need to be approved (not posts).
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I'm sure the mods would love that idea /s
IMO people shouldn't take offense to a topic being posted in the wrong section. If I have a request for an app section I don't know if that goes in development, themes & apps, or general.
I think the best solution is to create more categories. "Questions/problems" "mods/hacks" "accessories" and maybe one specific to devs where they get some type of posting approval on their profile allowing them to post in a development section.
The categories are far too general to know exactly where every post should go, in my opinion.
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kable said:
Posts like this are just as annoying..
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+1............
kable said:
Posts like this are just as annoying..
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+1....
Still new to the android phones, but was once new to this forum. For someone who doesn't really know where they're supposed to post it's an easy mistake.
The mods take care of this, trust me. They write in every locked thread and moved thread why it was moved, etc. This is just annoying. To me, this looks more like you are asking to be a mod than anything. But I see your view.
here have a beer and wecome to the club
SO MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT!!
Geez....report the thread and move on...
gtrplr71 said:
here have a beer and wecome to the club
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WIN! bahahahahha
Ruben1123 said:
The mods take care of this, trust me. They write in every locked thread and moved thread why it was moved, etc. This is just annoying. To me, this looks more like you are asking to be a mod than anything. But I see your view.
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Yeah, they do... but it's really annoying when someone posts a "how to flash" question in the dev forum... and no, I'm not asking for mod powers [in fact I don't want mod powers]... quite frankly I visit this site just once or twice a day... to busy with demos at work... I just want to know all the ways we can avoid this... anything to help the "super-mods" on this forum... yeah stickies are there... but some ppl just act dumb and don't even bother to read the stickies...
gtrplr71 said:
here have a beer and wecome to the club
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Much appreciated... a little spirit to calm my spirit...
bfspider said:
SO MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT!!
Geez....report the thread and move on...
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Yeah, I cud do that... but I want to know if there's anything else I can do... the mods have quite enuf without having to worry about idiots posting in the wrong forum.
Well. Seeing that you're very new to the forum "28th January 2010" you might as well just get used to it. It's never going to change. Welcome to the internet.
dumbestcrayon said:
Well. Seeing that you're very new to the forum "28th January 2010" you might as well just get used to it. It's never going to change. Welcome to the internet.
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I may be new to this forum... (cuz I got my N1 just around that time... my first Android phone... and I never had any other phones for which this forum has threads.... but XDADev is a trusted, well known name...) I moderated MotorolaFans.com a couple of years ago, before I got too involved with office work, and I did have to deal with this crap there as well.
I guess ppl got the wrong impression from this thread (I think it's my fault, didn't word it correctly). I'm just looking for ways to make the mods' lives a little less frustrating... and to get crap outta the wrong forums ;-).
So basically, this thread was created as a way for you to not so subtly cry out that you want to be a mod. All this after only being on this forum for a few weeks. Gotcha.
ajwho said:
So basically, this thread was created as a way for you to not so subtly cry out that you want to be a mod. All this after only being on this forum for a few weeks. Gotcha.
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Err... hello.... if u read my earlier posts... I said I DON'T want to be a mod... quite frankly, I don't have the time... and I'd land up doing a crappy job... I'm just saying, from personal experience, that a mods job isn't easy... and we, the users, need to contribute to keeping this forum clean...
Let me put this down properly...
1. I don't want to be a mod
2. I'm not doubting or complaining about the mods and the great work they do
3. There are only a few mods and thousands of users (that's some task)
4. We, the users, also need to help keeps things clean
So in short, what can I, as a USER, do to help improve this situation!!!

WHY?!?!

Total Rotation... (hack/app request)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712259
Why on earth was my above thread moved and closed...
Explain please moderators...
I'm not a mod, but I would guess that it was moved because there was no development going on. Why was it closed? I dunno... maybe the mode are getting sick of moderating this forum.
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I'm not a mod, but I would guess that it was moved because there was no development going on. Why was it closed? I dunno... maybe the mode are getting sick of moderating this forum.
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well if you ask me its defo more dev related then anything else, cos only dev's would know how to do it, But yeah moving it can understand i guess, But closing it without any type of message is just plain ridiculous.
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well if you ask me its defo more dev related then anything else, cos only dev's would know how to do it, But yeah moving it can understand i guess, But closing it without any type of message is just plain ridiculous.
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they moved a lot of stuff so i might have been an accident. try pm'ing a mod.
I'm not sure how long you've been on xda for, but in my experience it is common for requests (even development requests) to be moved to general. They usually want only actual development in the development subforum out of consideration for developers and users alike. it can be a bit trying to wade through all the ot discussion.
jonnybueno said:
they moved a lot of stuff so i might have been an accident. try pm'ing a mod.
I'm not sure how long you've been on xda for, but in my experience it is common for requests (even development requests) to be moved to general. They usually want only actual development in the development subforum out of consideration for developers and users alike. it can be a bit trying to wade through all the ot discussion.
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thanks, its not the moving i mind, its the closing thread, so any mod who see's this can you please explain why?
thanks
Asking a question about a feature for possible development is not development, its a general question and should go in the General/Q&A section. Pretty much everything should go under General, unless you have some source or compiled ROM or Kernel to contribute.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614062
I'm not a Mod obviously but spending a lot of time in the N1 Dev section you get a sense of what is and is not acceptable and how well it is tolerated.
Edit: obviously if you're posting an app apk or talking about cases there are sections for Apps, Themes and Accessories also.
ghostrida said:
Asking a question about a feature for possible development is not development, its a general question and should go in the General/Q&A section. Pretty much everything should go under General, unless you have some source or compiled ROM or Kernel to contribute.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614062
I'm not a Mod obviously but spending a lot of time in the N1 Dev section you get a sense of what is and is not acceptable and how well it is tolerated.
Edit: obviously if you're posting an app apk or talking about cases there are sections for Apps, Themes and Accessories also.
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I think we all understand why it was moved but I don't see any reason as to why it was closed, there are a lot of locked or closed threads that don't seem like they should be, it could be that there is a thread closing happy Mod, or they are getting locked or closed by mistake.
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I think we all understand why it was moved but I don't see any reason as to why it was closed, there are a lot of locked or closed threads that don't seem like they should be, it could be that there is a thread closing happy Mod, or they are getting locked or closed by mistake.
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Exactly, moving the thread is fine, but why close it?
come on mods, if you can close a thread without any reason, at least explain why please...
Thanks
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come on mods, if you can close a thread without any reason, at least explain why please...
Thanks
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Maybe they thought it was contagous and they were trying to quarantine it??
Seriously though WTF , we need a hack/app like that for sure!
GrandMasterB said:
Maybe they thought it was contagous and they were trying to quarantine it??
Seriously though WTF , we need a hack/app like that for sure!
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Sup B!!!!
Nice to see you over here to
And yes we seriously do, I would also LOVE it if anyone could do any of these following things to...
1) Camera stabilization that actually works
2) 2 stage camera button using the track pad (push/release)
3) App that allows 360 rotation on all apps that allow rotation.
4) Decent Panoramic camera app (like the Omnia on-screen Stitching)
5) Decent burst mode that works well and can choose how many shots it takes and time in between shots.
With those and with the rotation hack/app, i would be such a happy camper...
Come on dev's anyone know if if this is possible, if it is i'm willing to donate for sure
So my original post was shut in couple of hours, but this post has been here for nearly a day and a Mod hasn't given any type of excuse or answer to why the post was closed?
Is it me or is that just rude and a bad way to run a forums?
I really don't want to start any trouble, but I would love to know why my post was closed, So I don't make the same mistake in the future, plus its just common courtesy.
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So my original post was shut in couple of hours, but this post has been here for nearly a day and a Mod hasn't given any type of excuse or answer to why the post was closed?
Is it me or is that just rude and a bad way to run a forums?
I really don't want to start any trouble, but I would love to know why my post was closed, So I don't make the same mistake in the future, plus its just common courtesy.
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i don't think we have a dedicated mod for these forums... try pm'ing mikey1022 (maybe tomorrow since he's on the east coast)
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So my original post was shut in couple of hours, but this post has been here for nearly a day and a Mod hasn't given any type of excuse or answer to why the post was closed?
Is it me or is that just rude and a bad way to run a forums?
I really don't want to start any trouble, but I would love to know why my post was closed, So I don't make the same mistake in the future, plus its just common courtesy.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713251
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713251
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So where was there another post asking what I asked? Cos i couldn't find anything when I originally posted...
Plus your not a mod...
did you follow the instructions in the post he showed you?
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did you follow the instructions in the post he showed you?
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Er Which part you on about?
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i don't think we have a dedicated mod for these forums... try pm'ing mikey1022 (maybe tomorrow since he's on the east coast)
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I didn't see this post, thanks and I pm'ed him
Been reopened, was a mistake on my part.
Sorry

[MOD REQUEST] Please move em

please do your jobs, be a smart ass and start with this one.. I dont care. Please clean out this section of the boards. Half these posts dont have a thing to do with development. Its a pain in the ass to try and sift over the posts here when they dont have anything to do with development.
Take your screen shot posts
your questions posts
your it dont work posts
your so on and so on posts out of this forum and into the correct ones
i say make another section for android hd2 general thats the least they can do for all of this , so the rom section will remain only for rom and released apps ....
thats probably a good idea.
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i say make another section for android hd2 general thats the least they can do for all of this , so the rom section will remain only for rom and released apps ....
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I agree... android is so popular on the hd2... I believe it requires a whole new section for rom development" (if you want to call it that now), "Themes and apps" and "general"... if it doesnt happen now it should at least happen in the near future.
any mods care to reply to this? I think its a serious issue and its against the rules of XDA..make me a MOD for a day, I'll clean at least this section up with swiftness
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please do your jobs, be a smart ass and start with this one.. I dont care. Please clean out this section of the boards. Half these posts dont have a thing to do with development. Its a pain in the ass to try and sift over the posts here when they dont have anything to do with development.
Take your screen shot posts
your questions posts
your it dont work posts
your so on and so on posts out of this forum and into the correct ones
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I'm thinking someone needs to have less of an attitude, ok I know some threads are not totally necessary but to start being disrespectful through arrogance towards moderators is not called for & I take it frowned upon. Your better response to your issues would surely to direct your distaste to a mod directly instead of adding your own ill-appointed remarks.......
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I'm thinking someone needs to have less of an attitude, ok I know some threads are not totally necessary but to start being disrespectful through arrogance towards moderators is not called for & I take it frowned upon. Your better response to your issues would surely to direct your distaste to a mod directly instead of adding your own ill-appointed remarks.......
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No disrespect here. I am asking them to do their jobs, plain and simple. XDA is huge, I know it must be a tough job staying on top of all the posts here. I have run my own boards in the past and no where near the amount of posts..but keeping on top of them only equals a better experience for all. It makes searching easier as you dont get redundant posts, spread over numerous sections.
My reason for stating "start with this one" was simple, without that little line some one hear would inevitably say I am no different by posting here, in this section, with my added line I am saying I dont care if this post gets deleted, moved or what ever, start with this one if you want.
I come over here from the Nexus One section, prior to that it was the G1 section and am use to Mods that keep things clean and narrow..I just figured thats how XDA was in general.
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any mods care to reply to this? I think its a serious issue and its against the rules of XDA..make me a MOD for a day, I'll clean at least this section up with swiftness
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Ok tell us where to post and I'll post at it don't be rude
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Chillax dudes i was out with my kids today.. just saw your post i alerted the admins. Honestly i've been closing and answering so much i was thinking the same lol.
as soon as i get they're reply i'll let y'all know. Thanks for all your patience as HD2 android groooooows.
doing my best here
Peace,
Josh
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Chillax dudes i was out with my kids today.. just saw your post i alerted the admins. Honestly i've been closing and answering so much i was thinking the same lol.
as soon as i get they're reply i'll let y'all know. Thanks for all your patience as HD2 android groooooows.
doing my best here
Peace,
Josh
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Yeah, josh needs help in the android for hd2 forum.. officially, there is currently only 1 mod here, dharvey4651... we may need more in here since things are starting to become as messy as it is now..
many duplicate threads asking the same questions, asking irreverent qns when android development for hd2 is now still at SD card phase.. and the "ask your questions here thread" having mostly questions and no1 answering..
Mods need to help by deleting useless repetitive threads and if possible give temporary bans to people to either post or create new topic in the Android development forum..
And for all newcomers who see this thread... pls read the sticky threads for god sake and stop wasting server storage space with your useless, repeated, often already answered questions..!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
We are busy, that is correct. If you want to help us clean up the Android section, please use the Report Post link in the offending thread. All moderators see the RPs in a super special dedicated forum, so rest assured it will be addressed as soon as we see it and have time to do so.
thanks for the replies. I wasnt trying to offend anyone. I will use the report feature...I always thought that was for things such as warez, hard flaming or the sorts..

Make a dev tread clearer..

Hi, I'm trying something done for the topicstarters in a dev tread. Please read and tell me your thought.
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Question,
Is it possible for a topic starter in a dev tread to clean his own tread in the futere?
Mayby it's a idea to ad that option if a topic starter asked that.
And that they can only clean his/her tread?
I think it make yours and theirs live a lot relaxer.
You don't need to watch every tread. And the dev can keep his tread cleen without spamming and the same question over en over again.
Sorry for my typo.....
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12aon said:
Do you really think this is a good idea. Members get into fights, even topic starters. This could easily be misused, and I'm certain it will lead to more aggravation than it will solve.
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streamnlnl said:
Yes, I really think this is a good idea.
You can make rules before you ad the option. Like new members.
The dev need (for example) a least 100 post* before they can ask you for the option. Then you can screen the past of that person . And if they misbehaving. Then we (the not dev people) have many options to contact you. And after you warning a dev. The next time he goose across the line, he lost that option for good ...
But this is just my opinion. And again, I thinks this good really worked.
Thanks for answer me.
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Please tell your thought about this if you think this is a good idea. And please don't quote this message compete in this tread (Most of the time I read the forums trough the xda app)
Thanks.
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Hi, I'm trying something done for the topicstarters in a dev tread. Please read and tell me your thought.
The response.
My answer.
Please tell your thought about this if you think this is a good idea. And please don't quote this message compete in this tread (Most of the time I read the forums trough the xda app)
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No, rules are fine as is. And this is in the wrong section
Yeah I think this is a good idea
I think the idea is good in theory, however I don't see it being as good in practice. First, the devs rarely post anyway. I don't think they also want the responsibility of cleaning their own threads. To be honest, it is usually not the devs complaining about off topic. It's the senior members who have self assigned themselves forum police. I can definitely see something like this getting out of hand or misused.
I think the 10 posts minimum to post in the dev threads is both part of the problem and solution. Now we have noobs posting new threads wherever they can just so they can get a question answered or get their post count up. The problem is that they didn't LEARN anything by that rule. At the end of 10 forced posts they are still wanting an answer to their dev questions, so they post it in a dev thread anyway.
With xRecovery and the increasing ease of modifying your phone, more and more less experienced people are hacking their phones. Those people are inevitably going to have more questions, and the current "devs only" approach leaves them no option but to post in the devs thread.
I think the recent trend of linking a discussion thread to the dev thread is a more feasible and fair way to go. It would be better if somehow xda could link the discussion thread, rather than having a link hidden amongst the posts.
JMHO
Something such like this isn't possible, only if you would create in the Admin Control Panel a special usergroup to move devs to it. Just to much work for such a little thing.
this is not a good idea
and this would be apparent if people have been here for a length of time
im gonna give a scenario here
ok developers can mod their own threads. what if that same dev then does something bad and underhanded, and then a member in the threads knows and posts it in the thread (this has actually happened before). the dev then goes and deleted all traces of this from the thread so the moderators never know of the developers wrongdoing
in a perfect world this maybe a good idea
however at the minute no. this would allow a developers too many tools to cover up any moment of ill judgement
Not a good ideal for me. I'm sorry
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