Make a dev tread clearer.. - XPERIA X10 General

Hi, I'm trying something done for the topicstarters in a dev tread. Please read and tell me your thought.
streamnlnl said:
Question,
Is it possible for a topic starter in a dev tread to clean his own tread in the futere?
Mayby it's a idea to ad that option if a topic starter asked that.
And that they can only clean his/her tread?
I think it make yours and theirs live a lot relaxer.
You don't need to watch every tread. And the dev can keep his tread cleen without spamming and the same question over en over again.
Sorry for my typo.....
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The response.
12aon said:
Do you really think this is a good idea. Members get into fights, even topic starters. This could easily be misused, and I'm certain it will lead to more aggravation than it will solve.
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My answer.
streamnlnl said:
Yes, I really think this is a good idea.
You can make rules before you ad the option. Like new members.
The dev need (for example) a least 100 post* before they can ask you for the option. Then you can screen the past of that person . And if they misbehaving. Then we (the not dev people) have many options to contact you. And after you warning a dev. The next time he goose across the line, he lost that option for good ...
But this is just my opinion. And again, I thinks this good really worked.
Thanks for answer me.
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Please tell your thought about this if you think this is a good idea. And please don't quote this message compete in this tread (Most of the time I read the forums trough the xda app)
Thanks.

streamnlnl said:
Hi, I'm trying something done for the topicstarters in a dev tread. Please read and tell me your thought.
The response.
My answer.
Please tell your thought about this if you think this is a good idea. And please don't quote this message compete in this tread (Most of the time I read the forums trough the xda app)
Thanks.
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No, rules are fine as is. And this is in the wrong section

Yeah I think this is a good idea

I think the idea is good in theory, however I don't see it being as good in practice. First, the devs rarely post anyway. I don't think they also want the responsibility of cleaning their own threads. To be honest, it is usually not the devs complaining about off topic. It's the senior members who have self assigned themselves forum police. I can definitely see something like this getting out of hand or misused.
I think the 10 posts minimum to post in the dev threads is both part of the problem and solution. Now we have noobs posting new threads wherever they can just so they can get a question answered or get their post count up. The problem is that they didn't LEARN anything by that rule. At the end of 10 forced posts they are still wanting an answer to their dev questions, so they post it in a dev thread anyway.
With xRecovery and the increasing ease of modifying your phone, more and more less experienced people are hacking their phones. Those people are inevitably going to have more questions, and the current "devs only" approach leaves them no option but to post in the devs thread.
I think the recent trend of linking a discussion thread to the dev thread is a more feasible and fair way to go. It would be better if somehow xda could link the discussion thread, rather than having a link hidden amongst the posts.
JMHO

Something such like this isn't possible, only if you would create in the Admin Control Panel a special usergroup to move devs to it. Just to much work for such a little thing.

this is not a good idea
and this would be apparent if people have been here for a length of time
im gonna give a scenario here
ok developers can mod their own threads. what if that same dev then does something bad and underhanded, and then a member in the threads knows and posts it in the thread (this has actually happened before). the dev then goes and deleted all traces of this from the thread so the moderators never know of the developers wrongdoing
in a perfect world this maybe a good idea
however at the minute no. this would allow a developers too many tools to cover up any moment of ill judgement

Not a good ideal for me. I'm sorry
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Fed up with ppl posting question in the dev forum

Admin... mods...
Quite a few people of being plain stupid and posting non-dev related question/topics in the dev forum... it's kinda becoming a a mess...
no I don't blame the admin or mods... i blame the ppl doing this stupid thing... HELLO!!! can't u guys see "Development forum" and understand that it's specific to dev stuff???
BTW, if you guys need help with getting ride of crap like this, I'm ready to help!!!
Posts like this are just as annoying..
nothing really you can do to help.
They should change that stickied thread to state, "please post any question threads in the general section." or something like that. What it says now really doesn't mean anything to me.
This is coming someone who was once guilty of this act. As a noob to that forum I thought, "hey a development section, i got a question about development, guess it goes here. "
Its quite easy to see all of them are making this mistake.
They really need to just change it so that completely new threads need to be approved (not posts).
aldo37 said:
They really need to just change it so that completely new threads need to be approved (not posts).
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I'm sure the mods would love that idea /s
IMO people shouldn't take offense to a topic being posted in the wrong section. If I have a request for an app section I don't know if that goes in development, themes & apps, or general.
I think the best solution is to create more categories. "Questions/problems" "mods/hacks" "accessories" and maybe one specific to devs where they get some type of posting approval on their profile allowing them to post in a development section.
The categories are far too general to know exactly where every post should go, in my opinion.
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kable said:
Posts like this are just as annoying..
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+1............
kable said:
Posts like this are just as annoying..
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+1....
Still new to the android phones, but was once new to this forum. For someone who doesn't really know where they're supposed to post it's an easy mistake.
The mods take care of this, trust me. They write in every locked thread and moved thread why it was moved, etc. This is just annoying. To me, this looks more like you are asking to be a mod than anything. But I see your view.
here have a beer and wecome to the club
SO MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT!!
Geez....report the thread and move on...
gtrplr71 said:
here have a beer and wecome to the club
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WIN! bahahahahha
Ruben1123 said:
The mods take care of this, trust me. They write in every locked thread and moved thread why it was moved, etc. This is just annoying. To me, this looks more like you are asking to be a mod than anything. But I see your view.
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Yeah, they do... but it's really annoying when someone posts a "how to flash" question in the dev forum... and no, I'm not asking for mod powers [in fact I don't want mod powers]... quite frankly I visit this site just once or twice a day... to busy with demos at work... I just want to know all the ways we can avoid this... anything to help the "super-mods" on this forum... yeah stickies are there... but some ppl just act dumb and don't even bother to read the stickies...
gtrplr71 said:
here have a beer and wecome to the club
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Much appreciated... a little spirit to calm my spirit...
bfspider said:
SO MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT!!
Geez....report the thread and move on...
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Yeah, I cud do that... but I want to know if there's anything else I can do... the mods have quite enuf without having to worry about idiots posting in the wrong forum.
Well. Seeing that you're very new to the forum "28th January 2010" you might as well just get used to it. It's never going to change. Welcome to the internet.
dumbestcrayon said:
Well. Seeing that you're very new to the forum "28th January 2010" you might as well just get used to it. It's never going to change. Welcome to the internet.
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I may be new to this forum... (cuz I got my N1 just around that time... my first Android phone... and I never had any other phones for which this forum has threads.... but XDADev is a trusted, well known name...) I moderated MotorolaFans.com a couple of years ago, before I got too involved with office work, and I did have to deal with this crap there as well.
I guess ppl got the wrong impression from this thread (I think it's my fault, didn't word it correctly). I'm just looking for ways to make the mods' lives a little less frustrating... and to get crap outta the wrong forums ;-).
So basically, this thread was created as a way for you to not so subtly cry out that you want to be a mod. All this after only being on this forum for a few weeks. Gotcha.
ajwho said:
So basically, this thread was created as a way for you to not so subtly cry out that you want to be a mod. All this after only being on this forum for a few weeks. Gotcha.
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Err... hello.... if u read my earlier posts... I said I DON'T want to be a mod... quite frankly, I don't have the time... and I'd land up doing a crappy job... I'm just saying, from personal experience, that a mods job isn't easy... and we, the users, need to contribute to keeping this forum clean...
Let me put this down properly...
1. I don't want to be a mod
2. I'm not doubting or complaining about the mods and the great work they do
3. There are only a few mods and thousands of users (that's some task)
4. We, the users, also need to help keeps things clean
So in short, what can I, as a USER, do to help improve this situation!!!

Its about time says engadet Sprints HTC Hero 2.1!

Or dud!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/sprints-htc-hero-update-to-android-2-1-finally-coming-on-may-7/
What baffles me the most about your post is that the source on the Engadget article links back to a post on the very forum you are posting on. Why on earth did you feel it necessary to post another thread for an article based on a thread on these forums, in this section????
(They source this post in case you were wondering....)
I am amazed engadget sourced it! wow....
guess to get guys like u mad. hahaha
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I care about the week after it comes out I'm sure our devs will greatly enhance.
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DevinXtreme said:
What baffles me the most about your post is that the source on the Engadget article links back to a post on the very forum you are posting on. Why on earth did you feel it necessary to post another thread for an article based on a thread on these forums, in this section????
(They source this post in case you were wondering....)
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Because his post was about engadgets reaction and not the post on here?
DevinXtreme said:
What baffles me the most about your post is that the source on the Engadget article links back to a post on the very forum you are posting on. Why on earth did you feel it necessary to post another thread for an article based on a thread on these forums, in this section????
(They source this post in case you were wondering....)
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RUDE **** like this keep decent people away. The idea of a forum is people have to interact and contribute. If everytime someone posts something and some **** post his opinion on that post the website will eventually die....that pisses me off.... what a ****.
I think the issue here is that there is an already active thread about the Sprint 2.1 release date. The mods already combined threads together.
Apparently, the release date of the 2.1 image is causing some people to lose patience and tempers. Not trying to excuse it, just offering a possible explanation.
As a short timer on these forums I find it hard using the search to determine how many threads are out there already and if someone posted the information already. This is a very active forum and there are so many posts I am sure there is a lot of duplicate information. Being a moderator must be a full time job on active forums like these. To be safe I usually do not post anything new for fear of someone overreacting and sh*tting down my throat (and I assume that's for the best to prevent duplicate postings). I let the experts do all that, but it's too bad someone can't share information without someone acting like an ass.
mikehager66 said:
As a short timer on these forums I find it hard using the search to determine how many threads are out there already and if someone posted the information already. This is a very active forum and there are so many posts I am sure there is a lot of duplicate information. Being a moderator must be a full time job on active forums like these. To be safe I usually do not post anything new for fear of someone overreacting and sh*tting down my throat (and I assume that's for the best to prevent duplicate postings). I let the experts do all that, but it's too bad someone can't share information without someone acting like an ass.
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Share all you want. Just make sure there's not 50 threads about it already. It's fairly easy to use search (even though you say you have a problem with it) for '2.1 release' or 'sprint 2.1' or something. It's all in your search terms. People don't tend to get pissed off unless there have already been a LOT of threads posted...and until recently the mods weren't doing a whole lot of moderating so we'd have 10-15 posts on Sprint 2.1 rumors...which is why each time someone opens a thread like that they get jumped on.
skantman69 said:
RUDE **** like this keep decent people away. The idea of a forum is people have to interact and contribute. If everytime someone posts something and some **** post his opinion on that post the website will eventually die....that pisses me off.... what a ****.
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It doesn't help when people like you make an obvious troll post like the one I quoted. If you have a problem with someone, take it PM's, we don't want to read about it.
skantman69 said:
RUDE ***** like this keep decent people away. The idea of a forum is people have to interact and contribute. If everytime someone posts something and some ***** post his opinion on that post the website will eventually die....that pisses me off.... what a *****.
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mikehager66 said:
As a short timer on these forums I find it hard using the search to determine how many threads are out there already and if someone posted the information already. This is a very active forum and there are so many posts I am sure there is a lot of duplicate information. Being a moderator must be a full time job on active forums like these. To be safe I usually do not post anything new for fear of someone overreacting and sh*tting down my throat (and I assume that's for the best to prevent duplicate postings). I let the experts do all that, but it's too bad someone can't share information without someone acting like an ass.
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1. Read This.
Not only that but, unlike you, he didn't use inflammatory language or resort to name-calling. I fail to see how his post was rude.
2. The point is, he didn't even have to do a search, he just needed to pay attention. The article he linked, links right back here...to our very own forum.
This is a developer's forum folks. Even noobs are expected to be proficient in certain areas. Like searching. If you don't like the search feature provided by XDA, use Google and specify XDA as the search location. In most cases, if you didn't spend an hour searching, you didn't give due-diligence. Think that sounds like too much work? Hey, post away! But don't get upset when someone points out your negligence. I am not picking on you, op, and I certainly am not trying to be hostile towards you or anyone else. There have been a lot of posts lately attacking forum users who are simply trying to get others to follow forum rules. Remember, knowing how to click the search button and knowing how to properly search are 2 different things.
Mod Warning
Just cleaned this thread up. Please keep on topic and avoid the rude and abusive posts.
Rule 2 tells you all you need to know about how to interact with others on here.
WB
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Just cleaned this thread up. Please keep on topic and avoid the rude and abusive posts.
Rule 2 tells you all you need to know about how to interact with others on here.
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God I love having Mods pay attention to us now!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!
People learn by being taught in a proper manner. Excuse my offensive language but why do people need to be a smart butt to someone that doesn't know. I'm sure since one of the guys first post and interaction is met with rudeness. I guess there needs to be a huge disclaimer on top of this website that says noobs please take your business elsewhere. Remember everyone here is not perfect and everyone was once new to this website. I see this kind of stuff all the time.
One if the beauties of being human is that we have the ability to learn from the observation of others, not just direct, personal experience.
tejasrichard said:
1. Read This.
Not only that but, unlike you, he didn't use inflammatory language or resort to name-calling. I fail to see how his post was rude.
2. The point is, he didn't even have to do a search, he just needed to pay attention. The article he linked, links right back here...to our very own forum.
This is a developer's forum folks. Even noobs are expected to be proficient in certain areas. Like searching. If you don't like the search feature provided by XDA, use Google and specify XDA as the search location. In most cases, if you didn't spend an hour searching, you didn't give due-diligence. Think that sounds like too much work? Hey, post away! But don't get upset when someone points out your negligence. I am not picking on you, op, and I certainly am not trying to be hostile towards you or anyone else. There have been a lot of posts lately attacking forum users who are simply trying to get others to follow forum rules. Remember, knowing how to click the search button and knowing how to properly search are 2 different things.
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Sigh. Thank you. I was going to post about exactly this, but didn't really have the motivation. My post wasn't meant to be rude or flaming, but asking a direct question. I'm still incredibly new to these forums, but I lurked before I finally joined and knew what to expect. I search, and I've been successful in finding my answer all but once. And even when I did post my question, it just turns out I wasn't searching hard enough. The reason I bring all this up is that all the threads posting with the same information, especially when they have to do with 2.1 rumors (which bogs down a search for ANYTHING related to the 2.1 releases).
Point is, I wasn't intending to be rude, but was met with rudeness anyway. The people complaining are just as bad as the people they're complaining about.
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People learn by being taught in a proper manner. Excuse my offensive language but why do people need to be a smart butt to someone that doesn't know. I'm sure since one of the guys first post and interaction is met with rudeness. I guess there needs to be a huge disclaimer on top of this website that says noobs please take your business elsewhere. Remember everyone here is not perfect and everyone was once new to this website. I see this kind of stuff all the time.
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The OP has 279 posts (as of this posting) and has been a member since February 2010. This is far from "one of his first posts." :/

[MOD REQUEST] Please move em

please do your jobs, be a smart ass and start with this one.. I dont care. Please clean out this section of the boards. Half these posts dont have a thing to do with development. Its a pain in the ass to try and sift over the posts here when they dont have anything to do with development.
Take your screen shot posts
your questions posts
your it dont work posts
your so on and so on posts out of this forum and into the correct ones
i say make another section for android hd2 general thats the least they can do for all of this , so the rom section will remain only for rom and released apps ....
thats probably a good idea.
tarekkkkk said:
i say make another section for android hd2 general thats the least they can do for all of this , so the rom section will remain only for rom and released apps ....
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I agree... android is so popular on the hd2... I believe it requires a whole new section for rom development" (if you want to call it that now), "Themes and apps" and "general"... if it doesnt happen now it should at least happen in the near future.
any mods care to reply to this? I think its a serious issue and its against the rules of XDA..make me a MOD for a day, I'll clean at least this section up with swiftness
Ducter said:
please do your jobs, be a smart ass and start with this one.. I dont care. Please clean out this section of the boards. Half these posts dont have a thing to do with development. Its a pain in the ass to try and sift over the posts here when they dont have anything to do with development.
Take your screen shot posts
your questions posts
your it dont work posts
your so on and so on posts out of this forum and into the correct ones
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I'm thinking someone needs to have less of an attitude, ok I know some threads are not totally necessary but to start being disrespectful through arrogance towards moderators is not called for & I take it frowned upon. Your better response to your issues would surely to direct your distaste to a mod directly instead of adding your own ill-appointed remarks.......
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I'm thinking someone needs to have less of an attitude, ok I know some threads are not totally necessary but to start being disrespectful through arrogance towards moderators is not called for & I take it frowned upon. Your better response to your issues would surely to direct your distaste to a mod directly instead of adding your own ill-appointed remarks.......
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No disrespect here. I am asking them to do their jobs, plain and simple. XDA is huge, I know it must be a tough job staying on top of all the posts here. I have run my own boards in the past and no where near the amount of posts..but keeping on top of them only equals a better experience for all. It makes searching easier as you dont get redundant posts, spread over numerous sections.
My reason for stating "start with this one" was simple, without that little line some one hear would inevitably say I am no different by posting here, in this section, with my added line I am saying I dont care if this post gets deleted, moved or what ever, start with this one if you want.
I come over here from the Nexus One section, prior to that it was the G1 section and am use to Mods that keep things clean and narrow..I just figured thats how XDA was in general.
Ducter said:
any mods care to reply to this? I think its a serious issue and its against the rules of XDA..make me a MOD for a day, I'll clean at least this section up with swiftness
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Ok tell us where to post and I'll post at it don't be rude
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Chillax dudes i was out with my kids today.. just saw your post i alerted the admins. Honestly i've been closing and answering so much i was thinking the same lol.
as soon as i get they're reply i'll let y'all know. Thanks for all your patience as HD2 android groooooows.
doing my best here
Peace,
Josh
joshkoss said:
Chillax dudes i was out with my kids today.. just saw your post i alerted the admins. Honestly i've been closing and answering so much i was thinking the same lol.
as soon as i get they're reply i'll let y'all know. Thanks for all your patience as HD2 android groooooows.
doing my best here
Peace,
Josh
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Yeah, josh needs help in the android for hd2 forum.. officially, there is currently only 1 mod here, dharvey4651... we may need more in here since things are starting to become as messy as it is now..
many duplicate threads asking the same questions, asking irreverent qns when android development for hd2 is now still at SD card phase.. and the "ask your questions here thread" having mostly questions and no1 answering..
Mods need to help by deleting useless repetitive threads and if possible give temporary bans to people to either post or create new topic in the Android development forum..
And for all newcomers who see this thread... pls read the sticky threads for god sake and stop wasting server storage space with your useless, repeated, often already answered questions..!
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We are busy, that is correct. If you want to help us clean up the Android section, please use the Report Post link in the offending thread. All moderators see the RPs in a super special dedicated forum, so rest assured it will be addressed as soon as we see it and have time to do so.
thanks for the replies. I wasnt trying to offend anyone. I will use the report feature...I always thought that was for things such as warez, hard flaming or the sorts..

[Off Topic]&[Noob Advice] [Try Read It]

"hey guys,
Sorry to be a pita(pain-in-the-a**), I just wanted to make a positive contribution to the forum, and help keep the forums clean and tidy.
For the new guys joining this forum, it can be a lonely, confusing place. So I thought you might appreciate some guidelines/pointers before you make your first post:
This section that you are in now, is the General Section, it's for posting information and making observations.
We have a separate section for questions, appropriately named the Q&A Section, which is the place to post questions/queries if you need help, and time is of the essence.
There's an Accessories Section, where you can post about screen protectors/docks/cables, etc for your Tab
Its important to remember, that the Development section is for developers only. You can make a comment on the threads that are posted by Devs, but unless you are a developer, you should NOT be posting threads in the development section, EVER.
Finally, there is a Themes and Apps Section, where you can find/post information about different applications or wallpapers/themes for your phone.
The reason I'm posting this is because I know what it's like to be a 'noob'.
Don't be insulted by that term.
Everyone was a noob once.
But by reading the threads(especially the stickies) and using the Search function effectively (Did you know you can narrow the search down to a single section in the forum?) you can help educate yourself, and avoid duplicate threads where the same info/question is posted more than once. Which increases the chances of the relevant information being more easily accessible to the people looking for it.
So guys, please use the search function, chances are, the question you have, or the information you seek has already been asked or posted before. Else people are likely going to post this in your thread.
http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA
Anyway, if you reached this part of the post, thanks for reading, and I hope it has been helpful.
If you hit the Thanks button Karma will shine kindly on your a**"
Big Thanks Goes For Who Support This Idea
Big Big Thanks Goes For "stoney73" for providing The Correct sentences and correcting\changing my whole POST
In Case you wanna Learn Something About your Tab check this link ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133590 )
1st time i see this thread without a QUESTION .. Magical
..Sounds like good advice......
Cheers.
conantroutman said:
..Sounds like good advice......
Cheers.
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thanks for the support
I cant believe someone wasted the time to write this. Google Common Sense.
Timanator said:
I cant believe someone wasted the time to write this. Google Common Sense.
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so if you think that i wasted my time to wrote this all sentences ,, at least you should appreciated a little .. cuz i did it for their own good ,
thanks
k0sh said:
so if you think that i wasted my time to wrote this all sentences ,, at least you should appreciated a little .. cuz i did it for their own good ,
thanks
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Why would he appreciate you wasting your time?
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GANJDROID said:
Why would he appreciate you wasting your time?
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careful that was a question!
You guys are hilarious.....
The fact is that despite a sticky and forum announcement, I'm still moving 10+ threads a day from the general section.
So if someone wants to remind people where to post things then thats fair enough.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
Why would he appreciate you wasting your time?
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careful that was a question!
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Code:
You guys are hilarious.....The fact is that despite a sticky and forum announcement, I'm still moving 10+ threads a day from the general section.
So if someone wants to remind people where to post things then thats fair enough.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
conantroutman said:
You guys are hilarious.....
The fact is that despite a sticky and forum announcement, I'm still moving 10+ threads a day from the general section.
So if someone wants to remind people where to post things then thats fair enough.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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Don't get me wrong, I know this thread is a good idea, but I genuinely have trouble reading/understanding what k0sh says. Or why someone that thinks he's wasting his time should still appreciate it.
I don't think this will get through to people though. Especially with that title.
Hello,
Would you just cut him some slack? Pretty please?
His english isn't so good because that's not his first language. Malaysian english is horrid, but it's not their fault, visit the place and you will understand.
He is trying to raise awareness of posting correctly in the right section, so I guess at least he has good intention. Although this has been done in the sticky and almost everywhere else.
If you don't like his post, isn't sometimes silence is gold?
Sometimes the harsh response for a post in the wrong section is just crazy in this forum. The harsh response seemed like venting out frustration on an ignorant noob.
In the interest of keeping the peace, I took the liberty to rewrite kosh's post. (kosh, feel free to use it if you want). I tried to keep it close to your own words. I also just added in info about the accessories and themes/apps sections.Hope you don't mind.
"hey guys,
Sorry to be an pita(pain-in-the-ass), I just wanted make a positive contribution to the forum, and help keep the forums clean and tidy.
For the new guys joining this forum, it can be a lonely, confusing place. So I thought you might appreciate some guidelines/pointers before you make your first post:
This section that you are in now, is the General Section, it's for posting information and making observations.
We have a separate section for questions, appropriately named the Q&A Section, which is the place to post questions/queries if you need help, and time is of the essence.
There's an Accessories Section, where you can post about screen protectors/docks/cables, etc for your Tab
Its important to remember, that the Development section is for developers only. You can make a comment on the threads that are posted by Devs, but unless you are a developer, you should NOT be posting threads in the development section, EVER.
Finally, there is a Themes and Apps Section, where you can find/post information about different applications or wallpapers/themes for your phone.
The reason I'm posting this is because I know what it's like to be a 'noob'.
Don't be insulted by that term.
Everyone was a noob once.
But by reading the threads(especially the stickies) and using the Search function effectively (Did you know you can narrow the search down to a single section in the forum?) you can help educate yourself, and avoid duplicate threads where the same info/question is posted more than once. Which increases the chances of the relevant information being more easily accessible to the people looking for it.
So guys, please use the seach function, chances are, the question you have, or the information you seek has already been asked or posted before. Else people are likely going to post this in your thread.
http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA
Anyway, if you reached this part of the post, thanks for reading, and I hope it has been helpful.
If you hit the Thanks button Karma will shine kindly on your ass"
stoney73 said:
In the interest of keeping the peace, I took the liberty to rewrite kosh's post. (kosh, feel free to use it if you want). I tried to keep it close to your own words. I also just added in info about the accessories and themes/apps sections.Hope you don't mind.
"hey guys,
Sorry to be an pita(pain-in-the-ass), I just wanted make a positive contribution to the forum, and help keep the forums clean and tidy.
For the new guys joining this forum, it can be a lonely, confusing place. So I thought you might appreciate some guidelines/pointers before you make your first post:
This section that you are in now, is the General Section, it's for posting information and making observations.
We have a separate section for questions, appropriately named the Q&A Section, which is the place to post questions/queries if you need help, and time is of the essence.
There's an Accessories Section, where you can post about screen protectors/docks/cables, etc for your Tab
Its important to remember, that the Development section is for developers only. You can make a comment on the threads that are posted by Devs, but unless you are a developer, you should NOT be posting threads in the development section, EVER.
Finally, there is a Themes and Apps Section, where you can find/post information about different applications or wallpapers/themes for your phone.
The reason I'm posting this is because I know what it's like to be a 'noob'.
Don't be insulted by that term.
Everyone was a noob once.
But by reading the threads(especially the stickies) and using the Search function effectively (Did you know you can narrow the search down to a single section in the forum?) you can help educate yourself, and avoid duplicate threads where the same info/question is posted more than once. Which increases the chances of the relevant information being more easily accessible to the people looking for it.
So guys, please use the seach function, chances are, the question you have, or the information you seek has already been asked or posted before. Else people are likely going to post this in your thread.
http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA
Anyway, if you reached this part of the post, thanks for reading, and I hope it has been helpful.
If you hit the Thanks button Karma will shine kindly on your ass"
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Awesome !!!! going to use it
jpanggy said:
Hello,
Would you just cut him some slack? Pretty please?
His english isn't so good because that's not his first language. Malaysian english is horrid, but it's not their fault, visit the place and you will understand.
He is trying to raise awareness of posting correctly in the right section, so I guess at least he has good intention. Although this has been done in the sticky and almost everywhere else.
If you don't like his post, isn't sometimes silence is gold?
Sometimes the harsh response for a post in the wrong section is just crazy in this forum. The harsh response seemed like venting out frustration on an ignorant noob.
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i'm not malaysian i'm just a student here . so far malaysia is very good . ya the language here is kinda pain in tha A** but they are good ppl
k0sh said:
i'm not malaysian i'm just a student here . so far malaysia is very good . ya the language here is kinda pain in tha A** but they are good ppl
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So, what is your native language? Surely it cant be English.
natious said:
So, what is your native language? Surely it cant be English.
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dude if you look to my signature you'll know what is my native language and also where exactly i'm from
Hah! I take offense at the Malaysian English being horrid, come to Malaysia and you'd be pleasantly surprised
Now, unfortunately, Libyan English is another matter altogether! Even I didn't understand what he was trying to say. LOL! I only got interested in the thread due to the Malaysia flag being displayed! LOL!
k0sh said:
dude
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Check the photo - that is no dude! In even that tiny picture I see a gorgeous dudette!
mikhail said:
Hah! I take offense at the Malaysian English being horrid, come to Malaysia and you'd be pleasantly surprised
Now, unfortunately, Libyan English is another matter altogether! Even I didn't understand what he was trying to say. LOL! I only got interested in the thread due to the Malaysia flag being displayed! LOL!
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Lol... I'd take offence too, if anyone would measure the standards of Malaysian English by k0sh's postings.... what with me being a true-blue Malaysian, born-and-bred. ;-)
True, thanks to the wonderful efforts of our government (I won't go into the corny joke of how oxymoronic our government intelligence is...) the standards may be declining, but it's nowhere near what would be termed "horrid", and sure, we'll have our versions of hillbillies and rednecks (referred affectionately, though politically incorrectly as "jakuns"...) who'd mangle the language to no end... but it'll be quite rare for an English-speaking person to not be able to hold a decent conversation with any Malaysian in the Queen's language here, except of course, you run into the people I've just alluded to... ;-)
Anyway, the idea and intent behind this thread is noble, and to be honest k0sh was just trying to help. Yes, the execution may be a tad flawed, so instead of just harping on him or his standards of English (true, his penchant for "txt-spk" doesn't help matters either)... let's just do what stoney has done, and help each other...
@k0sh... you might wanna change your topic title though, as it's incredibly misleading. Maybe you're trying to have an eye-catching title, but it didn't work, so a change in the title might be warranted. Say, something more straightforward like: "Read this before you post...." or something to that effect, perhaps?
Have fun and be nice...
tpb
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thepittbull said:
Lol... I'd take offence too, if anyone would measure the standards of Malaysian English by k0sh's postings.... what with me being a true-blue Malaysian, born-and-bred. ;-)
True, thanks to the wonderful efforts of our government (I won't go into the corny joke of how oxymoronic our government intelligence is...) the standards may be declining, but it's nowhere near what would be termed "horrid", and sure, we'll have our versions of hillbillies and rednecks (referred affectionately, though politically incorrectly as "jakuns"...) who'd mangle the language to no end... but it'll be quite rare for an English-speaking person to not be able to hold a decent conversation with any Malaysian in the Queen's language here, except of course, you run into the people I've just alluded to... ;-)
Anyway, the idea and intent behind this thread is noble, and to be honest k0sh was just trying to help. Yes, the execution may be a tad flawed, so instead of just harping on him or his standards of English (true, his penchant for "txt-spk" doesn't help matters either)... let's just do what stoney has done, and help each other...
@k0sh... you might wanna change your topic title though, as it's incredibly misleading. Maybe you're trying to have an eye-catching title, but it didn't work, so a change in the title might be warranted. Say, something more straightforward like: "Read this before you post...." or something to that effect, perhaps?
Have fun and be nice...
tpb
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Satu Malaysia
probably i'll change it , but with another sticky name .. cuz they don't give a damn about rules , announcements . so i better think of silly name ) ..
Out of topic : they will not know the malaysian ppl until they eat a damn nasi lemak ( fried rice ) ... or come and try and see how the malaysian ppl are kind , easy , normal , they make you love them ..
Satu Malaysia >)

Why are there two different Nexus 4 Development Threads?

1- Original Android Development
2 - Android Development
Got a clue?
FYI all questions should be in the Q&A section. You should ask to have this thread moved.
Not sure but I have been running code fire x BR2 with matrix kernel in the original section and loving this combo!:thumbup:
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OK, if someone could please move this to the QA thread please. Didnt know if it had to do with this thread if it should be in here... wasnt really a question about the nexus
DATSUN.510 said:
FYI all questions should be in the Q&A section. You should ask to have this thread moved.
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Agreed
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ml3000 said:
1- Original Android Development
2 - Android Development
Got a clue?
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original android development = original android development (ie building android from source)
android development = using a base/other sources and adding in certain features/tweaks
so your thread is clearly posted in the wrong forum!
Original Android Dev has "ORIGINAL" DEV. It has official ports and works that are ORIGINAL and NEW.
The other has port and custom built roms.
Hope this helps and IB4L
Its to fake out all the people that like posting questions in the developers thread.
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tspx23 said:
original android development = original android development (ie building android from source)
android development = using a base/other sources and adding in certain features/tweaks
so your thread is clearly posted in the wrong forum!
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Ahh, makes perfect sense, thanks.
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Its funny how all the so called new Sr members are all quick to treat the guy like sh!t because he didn't know he couldn't ask a question here.
So quick to sound like you know what your talking about. Please... u guys are in the midst of going through XDA puberty. Does it feel good not to be called newbs?
If u can't answer the question then please don't answer negatively. Thanks.
Funny how none of u have the power to do a thing about this post LOL.
Lets the mods do their job as I'm sure they will find & move this thread.
To the OP I see that u got your answer a few posts above (thx tspx23) Now u know
Dave778 said:
Its funny how all the so called new Sr members are all quick to treat the guy like sh!t because he didn't know he couldn't ask a question here.
So quick to sound like you know what your talking about. Please... u guys are in the midst of going through XDA puberty. Does it feel good not to be called newbs?
If u can't answer the question then please don't answer negatively. Thanks.
Funny how none of u have the power to do a thing about this post LOL.
Lets the mods do their job as I'm sure they will find & move this thread.
To the OP I see that u got your answer a few posts above (thx tspx23) Now u know
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Yeah we all love the "fake" mods that tell everyone what to do lmao
Good points there dude. Sadly these little XDA kids will always be like this. Just like in COD smh
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Nuff bromance thread jacking.
Ask questions in the question sub forum...common sense ain't so common.
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Dave778 said:
Its funny how all the so called new Sr members are all quick to treat the guy like sh!t because he didn't know he couldn't ask a question here.
So quick to sound like you know what your talking about. Please... u guys are in the midst of going through XDA puberty. Does it feel good not to be called newbs?
If u can't answer the question then please don't answer negatively. Thanks.
Funny how none of u have the power to do a thing about this post LOL.
Lets the mods do their job as I'm sure they will find & move this thread.
To the OP I see that u got your answer a few posts above (thx tspx23) Now u know
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NoLunchBox_ said:
Yeah we all love the "fake" mods that tell everyone what to do lmao
Good points there dude. Sadly these little XDA kids will always be like this. Just like in COD smh
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Users like you two are what's wrong with the community.
New people come here and they aren't aware of the rules. Then, members who are more acquainted tell them the standard behavior and how they should treat the forums. "Post topics in relevant subforums. Questions go in Q&A, accessories goes in Accessories, etc" and "this has already been answered, you should have used the search function."
These are not rules made to piss you off. They are not rules by accident. They are suggestions of common sense and practical experience that helps prevent the forums from becoming disorganized and repetitive. You have no idea what a burden it is to have dozens of threads talking about the same thing. Or, to want to browse threads of a certain theme (Themes, for example), but every other thread is of a vastly different topic.
It is tremendously childish to disparage someone who is trying to help enforce rules. They only do so for the sake of clarity and organization. You are being very unhelpful by not directing new users and letting them do whatever they want. What do you think is accomplished if everyone takes your attitude? Those new users require feedback and guidance. The only response OP should make in regard to this is: "oh, I didn't know. Thank you for telling me so genially. I will remember this lesson."
It's tragic that both of you can be so condescending and immature, yet simultaneously chastise rule-enforcers–who are actually cordial and helpful–of being condescending and immature. That sounds uncannily child-like. You two are ridiculous and should feel ridiculous.
Don't think the mods are ever vigilant and omnipotent. Unless they read through every post of every thread, they aren't going to catch everything. That's why there's a report button next to every post. Simply posting a comment to let new users know that the posters should adhere to certain guidelines to maintain organization and reduce clutter helps mods tremendously by distributing the manpower needed to manage a huge forum like xda.
Seriously, the other posters are actually contributing by informing OP of how the site works, while you two are basically saying "F the man! I do what I want, and you should do what you want! YOLO!" This attitude leads to a terribly organized forum. I can't even fathom what goes through your heads. "Yo, don't listen to these more experienced xda members! They are just nerds! Instead, they should be listening to me!"
Honestly, you two need to grow up.
Hung0702 said:
Users like you two are what's wrong with the community.
New people come here and they aren't aware of the rules. Then, members who are more acquainted tell them the standard behavior and how they should treat the forums. "Post topics in relevant subforums. Questions go in Q&A, accessories goes in Accessories, etc" and "this has already been answered, you should have used the search function."
These are not rules made to piss you off. They are not rules by accident. They are suggestions of common sense and practical experience that helps prevent the forums from becoming disorganized and repetitive. You have no idea what a burden it is to have dozens of threads talking about the same thing. Or, to want to browse threads of a certain theme (Themes, for example), but every other thread is of a vastly different topic.
It is tremendously childish to disparage someone who is trying to help enforce rules. They only do so for the sake of clarity and organization. You are being very unhelpful by not directing new users and letting them do whatever they want. What do you think is accomplished if everyone takes your attitude? Those new users require feedback and guidance. The only response OP should make in regard to this is: "oh, I didn't know. Thank you for telling me so genially. I will remember this lesson."
It's tragic that both of you can be so condescending and immature, yet simultaneously chastise rule-enforcers–who are actually cordial and helpful–of being condescending and immature. That sounds uncannily child-like. You two are ridiculous and should feel ridiculous.
Don't think the mods are ever vigilant and omnipotent. Unless they read through every post of every thread, they aren't going to catch everything. That's why there's a report button next to every post. Simply posting a comment to let new users know that the posters should adhere to certain guidelines to maintain organization and reduce clutter helps mods tremendously by distributing the manpower needed to manage a huge forum like xda.
Seriously, the other posters are actually contributing by informing OP of how the site works, while you two are basically saying "F the man! I do what I want, and you should do what you want! YOLO!" This attitude leads to a terribly organized forum. I can't even fathom what goes through your heads. "Yo, don't listen to these more experienced xda members! They are just nerds! Instead, they should be listening to me!"
Honestly, you two need to grow up.
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To inform ppl & to direct our newer members to the correct forums is one thing, But to make fun of or to ridicule users is another & not acceptable let alone helpful. Its because of [email protected]$$ comments like that, that alot of users have left to other Android forums. Bravo you deserve a star for that...NOT.
If you actually read my post above you would see that I was not referring to our members that were helpful, But only the ones that creat a bad user experience for our newer/older members alike. Kind of like you. I rest my case.
There's a reason that not everybody is a mod. Thankfully you are not
MODS please close/move this thread to the correct forum already.
Dave778 said:
Its funny how all the so called new Sr members are all quick to treat the guy like sh!t because he didn't know he couldn't ask a question here.
So quick to sound like you know what your talking about. Please... u guys are in the midst of going through XDA puberty. Does it feel good not to be called newbs?
If u can't answer the question then please don't answer negatively. Thanks.
Funny how none of u have the power to do a thing about this post LOL.
Lets the mods do their job as I'm sure they will find & move this thread.
To the OP I see that u got your answer a few posts above (thx tspx23) Now u know
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It's funny how you contradict yourself in your own post. You say that if you don't answer the question, that you shouldn't respond negatively, yet you throw out a few quips at other people.
You say none of us have the power to do a thing about this post yet you are wrong. Every single member should have the ability to report this thread for moving. Seeing as how you passively say that the mods will find this thread, I'm assuming you didn't report this thread either. Simply saying "mods please move this thread" doesn't bring it to their attention. They are not omnipotent and are not alerted to a new thread by simply posting "MODS."
I've gone ahead and reported the thread to be moved. For future reference to anyone who sees a thread posted in the wrong place. Feel free to direct the member to the correct location, but also report the thread for housekeeping.
Stryder5 said:
It's funny how you contradict yourself in your own post. You say that if you don't answer the question, that you shouldn't respond negatively, yet you throw out a few quips at other people.
You say none of us have the power to do a thing about this post yet you are wrong. Every single member should have the ability to report this thread for moving. Seeing as how you passively say that the mods will find this thread, I'm assuming you didn't report this thread either. Simply saying "mods please move this thread" doesn't bring it to their attention. They are not omnipotent and are not alerted to a new thread by simply posting "MODS."
I've gone ahead and reported the thread to be moved. For future reference to anyone who sees a thread posted in the wrong place. Feel free to direct the member to the correct location, but also report the thread for housekeeping.
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My comment was not aimed at any one person. You & Hung on the other hand are abusive over the internet (note how I said over the internet LOL)
-You ASSUME I didn't report this thread w/o basis of any fact(s) LOL
-It was reported hrs ago
-Thank you for giving us your permission to report the thread/future threads as it is your permission that makes a difference if we/I do... ...SERIOUSLY?
Are you for real?
From one Sr member to another... thanks for pointing out the obviously obvious...
Dave778 said:
My comment was not aimed at any one person. You & Hung on the other hand are abusive over the internet (note how I said over the internet LOL)
-You ASSUME I didn't report this thread w/o basis of any fact(s) LOL
-It was reported hrs ago
-Thank you for giving us your permission to report the thread/future threads as it is your permission that makes a difference if we/I do... ...SERIOUSLY?
Are you for real?
From one Sr member to another... thanks for pointing out the obviously obvious...
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Dave, quote the posts that you mentioned before. The ones that do not genially guide the OP to better use the forums. Because you claimed that some of the posts were condescending (you used many more, unnecessary words, but condescending captures the essence). Please quote them.
Also please provide which part of my post was abusive. Do so and I will apologize if I find that out-of-context, I was being inappropriate. As far as I can tell, you are being far less articulate, far less exact, and far more accusatory than ANYONE else in this thread. FAR MORE ACCUSATORY.
Your post is the first post in this thread that incited anything out of the ordinary. I suspect you are troll-baiting, or you are just plain wrong and have a hard time defending yourself with words.
Also, you are wrong to thing this is e-thugging. You are e-thugging. I have been using words and providing evidence and logic to the best of my ability to prove you wrong, and specifically referring to things you say and exact sentiments within the community. You have done nothing but put up a battered straw-man argument.
Dave778 said:
My comment was not aimed at any one person. You & Hung on the other hand are abusive over the internet (note how I said over the internet LOL)
-You ASSUME I didn't report this thread w/o basis of any fact(s) LOL
-It was reported hrs ago
-Thank you for giving us your permission to report the thread/future threads as it is your permission that makes a difference if we/I do... ...SERIOUSLY?
Are you for real?
From one Sr member to another... thanks for pointing out the obviously obvious...
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Rather than carrying out this conversation over a thread that has already been answered, I went ahead and PM'ed you to prevent spamming up this thread.
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Dave, quote the posts that you mentioned before. The ones that do not genially guide the OP to better use the forums. Because you claimed that some of the posts were condescending (you used many more, unnecessary words, but condescending captures the essence). Please quote them.
Also please provide which part of my post was abusive. Do so and I will apologize if I find that out-of-context, I was being inappropriate. As far as I can tell, you are being far less articulate, far less exact, and far more accusatory than ANYONE else in this thread. FAR MORE ACCUSATORY.
Your post is the first post in this thread that incited anything out of the ordinary. I suspect you are troll-baiting, or you are just plain wrong and have a hard time defending yourself with words.
Also, you are wrong to thing this is e-thugging. You are e-thugging. I have been using words and providing evidence and logic to the best of my ability to prove you wrong, and specifically referring to things you say and exact sentiments within the community. You have done nothing but put up a battered straw-man argument.
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I agree with you Hung. Your responses have been well-written and appropriate. I also agree that Dave's posts have been more instigating than anything else. However, I think it would be best to take this to PM as I have. I wrote out a nice response, similar to the kind you have written and sent it via PM so it doesn't look like we are arguing on the boards. Let's keep it clean. I encourage Dave to do the same and reply via PM
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Dave, quote the posts that you mentioned before. The ones that do not genially guide the OP to better use the forums. Because you claimed that some of the posts were condescending (you used many more, unnecessary words, but condescending captures the essence). Please quote them.
Also please provide which part of my post was abusive. Do so and I will apologize if I find that out-of-context, I was being inappropriate. As far as I can tell, you are being far less articulate, far less exact, and far more accusatory than ANYONE else in this thread. FAR MORE ACCUSATORY.
Your post is the first post in this thread that incited anything out of the ordinary. I suspect you are troll-baiting, or you are just plain wrong and have a hard time defending yourself with words.
Also, you are wrong to thing this is e-thugging. You are e-thugging. I have been using words and providing evidence and logic to the best of my ability to prove you wrong, and specifically referring to things you say and exact sentiments within the community. You have done nothing but put up a battered straw-man argument.
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Save the drama. I'm not going to babysit you (I'm not a mod) or go digging through your posts trying to prove to everyone what's already been said & done/seen. Your posts speak for themselves, need I say more?.
Your previous posts where anything but appropriate but everyone is entitled to their opinion... Even Stryder.
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What the hell, u asked so here I am babysitting (last time Hung)
Hung0702 said:
(1) -Users like you two are what's wrong with the community.
(2) -It's tragic that both of you can be so condescending and immature, yet simultaneously chastise rule-enforcers–who are actually cordial and helpful–of being condescending and immature. That sounds uncannily child-like.
(3) -You two are ridiculous and should feel ridiculous.
(4) -you two are basically saying "F the man! I do what I want, and you should do what you want! YOLO!"
(5) - "Yo, don't listen to these more experienced xda members! They are just nerds! Instead, they should be listening to me!"
(6) - Honestly, you two need to grow up.
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(1) Abuse aimed directly at another forum member (directly at 2 members actually)
(2) Abuse aimed directly at 2 forum members + Name calling
(3) Abuse aimed directly at 2 forum members
(4) Spreading lies about other forum members who said no such thing or did such a thing
(5) Making more false statements about other forum members who said or did no such thing
(6) Borderline Abuse aimed directly at 2 forum members
Yeah... Real appropriate. I'm done wasting my time with you. I could go on but I'll stop here as I have more important things to do than argue with ... well ...you
Hows that for (in your words) "exact"?
You create a horrible abusive user experience here at XDA. I'm ashamed to have even replyed to you.
It's no wonder why so many people have left XDA to goto other forums when opinionated extremists like yourself are belittling & harassing every new member that comes along.
You talk nonsense to me & I'll put you in your place. Nothing you could do or say could faze me the slightest, But new members who haven't been around as long feel harassed, threatened & uncomfortable when you abuse them (like you tried to do with me & NoLunchBox_) & they leave for other forums.
Recognize
MODERATORS please move this thread to the proper forum & close. The OP got his answer and now it has just become an abuse thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
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