Bixby will not be on S8 at launch, available later - Samsung Galaxy S8+ Guides, News, & Discussion

http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/samsung-galaxy-s8-in-the-us-will-not-have-bixby-at-launch-12-04-2017/

That's unfortunate but we still have Google Assistant for that, which is probably at this time far superior anyways. Thanks for the info!

That sucks. Samsung probably shouldn't be advertising it everywhere as the big showcase, ground-breaking feature. As a longtime Samsung tablet and phone user, I'm not optimistic about any Samsung updates or timelines.

I'm fed up with google search and google assistant as it knows too much about you but doesn't really know what you're looking for. Cortana is more powerful in that way. Bixby was a great hope for me. I think that even if it has to learn by user experience it could perform a better service as google... I hope Bixby will come very soon

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First update is a fact (multitouch & 3G fix!)

New Software Update for Nexus One phones
Starting today, Nexus One users will begin to receive an over-the-air software update on their phones. This update provides some great new features, and fixes a few problems that some users might have experienced, including:
Google Goggles: this mobile application will now be available directly on your device by launching it from your All Apps menu. Just use your Nexus One camera to start searching the web
Google Maps: the Maps application with be updated to a new version, Google Maps 3.4, which will include:
* Starred items synchronized with maps.google.com - access your favorite places from your phone or computer
* Search suggestions from your personal maps.google.com history - makes it easy to search for places you've searched for before
* Night mode in Google Maps Navigation - automatically changes your screen at night for easier viewing and driving
Pinch-to-zoom functionality: devices will now include a new pinch-to-zoom mechanism in the phone's Browser, Gallery and Maps applications
3G connectivity: we will provide a general fix to help improve 3G connectivity on some Nexus One phones
In order to access the update, you will receive a message on your phone's notification bar. Just download the update, wait for it to install, and you should be all set. This update will be rolled out gradually to phones - and most users might not receive the notification until the end of the week. We hope you enjoy these new features and look forward to your feedback.
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http://googlenexusoneboard.blogspot.com/2010/02/new-software-update-for-nexus-one.html
Google is including pinch-to-zoom? Maybe it's the cynic in me, but I'm not buying this blogpost right now...
Edit: I just saw that's an official Google blog... wonder what made Google backpedal on their "one-handed operation" focus...
uansari1 said:
Google is including pinch-to-zoom? Maybe it's the cynic in me, but I'm not buying this blogpost right now...
Edit: I just saw that's an official Google blog... wonder what made Google backpedal on their "one-handed operation" focus...
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Maybe it was Steve Jobs comments about Google "dont be evil" being bull***t that made them include it in the update.
uansari1 said:
Google is including pinch-to-zoom? Maybe it's the cynic in me, but I'm not buying this blogpost right now...
Edit: I just saw that's an official Google blog... wonder what made Google backpedal on their "one-handed operation" focus...
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i think Andy knew damn well it was coming and thats why is only answer was...
"we ll look into it"
also he may be right about steve jobs smack talking Google and pissing them BIG G off haha
frenchtom said:
i think Andy knew damn well it was coming and thats why is only answer was...
"we ll look into it"
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Well if he didn't knew it was coming than who would?
It's just a major surprise now and I like surprises, I'm happy for the Americans
efeltee said:
Well if he didn't knew it was coming than who would?
It's just a major surprise now and I like surprises, I'm happy for the Americans
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I'm happy for the Ameri...er, us too! Don't get me a wrong.. I'm a fan of one-handed operation, but we should have had the option from the get go. Plus this nullifies one of the iPhone fanboy's claims. They still have a better device built into their phone... but whatever. I don't listen to much music anyway.
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Plus this nullifies one of the iphone fanboy's claims.
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HELL YES. No more apple fanboys whining about multitouch MUWHAHAHAHHAHA
I know the roll out is gradual, but is it essentially randomly? Or some ultra google algorithm?
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HELL YES. No more apple fanboys whining about multitouch MUWHAHAHAHHAHA
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Oh don't worry... they'll find something. The built-in media player being a case in point.
one has to wonder just how much apple asked for monetarily in order for google to update the phone with multitouch support stateside.
glad to see it arriving so quickly after the initial release of the phone.
the only thing I miss from my iphone is the application support. Pandora, Facebook, etc...they are years beyond on the iphone compared to android devices. I know they are catching up but that really is a pain point considering how fantastic a device this is.
Imagine what will come of iphone users when flash finally hits android devices world wide?
the rumor that i always felt had the largest grain of truth was that apple asked google to not do it because it could invalidate apples shady patents and since a google ceo was on the board of director for apple a one point in time it was kind of an ok well just for a little while also why not make google the default iphone search provider
so now my theory is that when apple started to proposition microsoft to use bing as iphone default search this obviously pissed off google and now multi-touch
maybe i listen to too much TWiT though

Apples vs. Google

I thought this was an interesting article, albeit short. I wish they went deeper into the story. http://www.bgr.com/2011/01/31/is-this-why-apple-and-google-hate-each-other/
I was wondering, without Google, Apple's iPhone would be missing some key features, like Gmail and Google Maps. What keeps Google tied to Apple? Now that Android has taken off, what would happen if Google pulled the relationship with Apple and stopped supporting the iPhone? Meaning, if you want Gmail, you have to use an Android phone. Would there be incredible backlash against Google, or would Gmail-users ditch their iPhone? Can Google survive on its own?
I think this would be an interesting discussion.
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I thought this was an interesting article, albeit short. I wish they went deeper into the story. http://www.bgr.com/2011/01/31/is-this-why-apple-and-google-hate-each-other/
I was wondering, without Google, Apple's iPhone would be missing some key features, like Gmail and Google Maps. What keeps Google tied to Apple? Now that Android has taken off, what would happen if Google pulled the relationship with Apple and stopped supporting the iPhone? Meaning, if you want Gmail, you have to use an Android phone. Would there be incredible backlash against Google, or would Gmail-users ditch their iPhone? Can Google survive on its own?
I think this would be an interesting discussion.
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I think the issue is that Google wants to make itself the open-source alternative. This has its benefits; it means wider acceptance and ease of developing for its platform but it also means that it cannot simply close off certain apps and prevent them from being utilized on other platforms. Sure, El Goog could stop officially supporting their products on Apple platforms but that would lead to more backlash than benefit. I, myself, love Google. I use Google products (Chrome, Android, Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Maps, Google Navigation, Google Docs, etc.) for pretty much everything. However, I also own two Macbooks because Windows based computers just haven't gotten to the point where I would want to use one again. If Google stopped supporting all Apple platforms, I would have to make the choice between free alternatives to things I can do access otherwise or the two computers I spent a combined three grand on.
In fact, I can honestly say that in spite of my love for Android, if today they announced that Apple products and platforms would no longer receive Google Support, I would go to BB and return both mine and my wife's Nexus S, switch us to Verizon and get iPhones (when they come out).
Essentially, to sum up, my belief is that given the way Google has positioned themselves in the market they cannot simply cast aside a large portion of users in that way, it would be corporate suicide.
Don't think either could alienate each other to that extent.
Besides, there's always Google Mobile - were Gmail to be removed from Apple's Mail app for some reason, it's still accessible via mail.google.com in Safari. But realistically how would (prospective) Apple customers react to that?
Google is better.
i just dont think google would want to lose those valuable iphone customers using their gmail service. even though it competes, having those eyes looking at ads is better than not having those eyes looking at ads.
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Google is better.
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What a wonderful, intelligent addition to what was supposed to be an interesting, thought-provoking discussion.
Good answers, guys. Now that I think about it, it was a pretty silly question. It'd be unwise for Google to cut ties. What an interesting relationship they have with Apple, though. They need each other, but are apparently such fierce rivals.
Don't forget. Google is a search company.
you can also take a look at it this way. Google gets a paycheque from Apple for using their services just like microsoft gets one from google and other way around.
There are so many patents and crossed cheques between the companies that it would not make sense to stop doing it now. Next thing you know Microsoft wont let google use their patened mail exchange server and 1/2 the Android users that dont use Gmail all of a sudden hate android. Some **** like that.
They'll keep doing it as long as there is a costumer and someone is makeing money.
I would like to see them apart. I would never throw my money away by buying an apple product.
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you can also take a look at it this way. Google gets a paycheque from Apple for using their services just like microsoft gets one from google and other way around.
There are so many patents and crossed cheques between the companies that it would not make sense to stop doing it now. Next thing you know Microsoft wont let google use their patened mail exchange server and 1/2 the Android users that dont use Gmail all of a sudden hate android. Some **** like that.
They'll keep doing it as long as there is a costumer and someone is makeing money.
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Completely off topic, but yay for POLAND!!!
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Zardos66 said:
I would like to see them apart. I would never throw my money away by buying an apple product.
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That's a rather closed-minded outlook. Have you ever *owned* an apple product? I've never had anything but amazing experiences with their support and I've only ever had to use their support three times in the 5 years I've owned macbooks. Also, recently they replaced the entire keyboard and bezel on my 5 year old macbook simply because it had a cosmetic defect. I brought it in and told them that the keyboard stopped working because I spilled drinks on it and used it heavily for five years and because of the cosmetic defect they replaced it. Free. While I waited. Meanwhile, my wife's Compaq laptop had two major recalls in two years both due to massive motherboard failure and because I was a week late calling about the second I missed the window and they wanted to charge $400 to fix it. Throwing money away on Apply products? More like investing in a product that will be supported long after it is technologically obsolete.
EDIT: I understand I'm going to get called a iFanboy for that but its the truth. They have never done any wrong by me. When it comes to phones, I much prefer Android but I will continue buying Apple computers until they do wrong by me. I'm on my second MacBook (this one Pro) and I only upgraded because I wanted a better screen and the old one was, well, old. Name one other manufacturer that would offer free technical servicing to a machine far out of warranty.
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I would like to see them apart. I would never throw my money away by buying an apple product.
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Open your mind.
it's a symbiotic relationship...
Might I also suggest a topic title change to Apples To Googles.
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What a wonderful, intelligent addition to what was supposed to be an interesting, thought-provoking discussion.
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I am sorry, it was just that, well, Apple vs Google is discussed a lot on the internet. When I read the actual text, I got to admit the question isn't that silly.
Just change the threadtitle.
Somewhat related;
techcrunch.com/2011/01/31/apple-reportedly-blocks-sony-reader-app-could-spell-war-with-kindle/
As noted, you can't purchase within the Kindle app, but this is the power that Apple has over what goes on their phones. The fine line Google must also tread
different business models
I think the reason that they are still so tied together is that they use different business models.
Apple sells hardware; computers, iPhones, or iPads, Apple's goal is to sell hardware.
Google sells advertising, they make their money off of people using their services. The majority of Google's income still comes from selling advertising.
Apple uses Google's services because they are popular and they are the best available. Gmail is the number 2 email service, and maps is superior to any of the other search/ map products available to Apple. What is Apple going to replace Google Maps with if they removed it from iOS, Bing Maps? I just don't see that happening since Google Maps is a superior product (although Microsoft has been improving Bing recently).
Google realizes that the future of computing is increasingly mobile, and they do not want the control of access to that controlled solely by any one company. This is where Android comes into Google's business model. Google's main interest in Android is the same as their other services, Google wants people using the web so they can sell advertising.
Apple is clearly pissed that Android is cutting into Apple's sales of the iPhone and iPad. Google basically doesn't care how you access their services, so long as you are using them.
The two companies have different goals, because of this it is more likely that Apple would replace Google's services on iOS that Google would pull them. I think the closest that Google would get is what we have now with some features restricted for Android such as turn by turn navigation and the Gmail app on Android.
If this even Nexus S related? Why is this in the Nexus S section?
I like my iMac, enjoy my Windows XP netbook, iPod Touch, Android Droid Pro and Android Nexus S.. just sayin' lol.

Gingerbread 2.3.4!!!

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/04/2...be-introduced-at-io-as-part-of-android-2-3-4/
If im not mistaken isn't the Nexus S 4g running this version of gingerbread? Maybe thats whats holding it back!!
Nice, I cannot wait
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Now, Skype is going down.
GREAT
dwnld lnk !!!
Nexus S 4G is running 2.3.3, however reports indicate that there will be an update to 2.3.4 shortly after Google I/O's announcement of Google Talk with Voice
According to Boy Genius report hands on Nexus S 4G is running 2.3.4
http://www.bgr.com/2011/03/23/hands-on-with-sprints-nexus-s-4g/
Really looking forward to this. I wanna video chat!
If it works between PCs (including Macs!) and phones with the Nexus S's front-facing camera, this is a godsend. NOTHING yet in the Android Market fulfills both those requirements, something I find is a big fail after there's been Android phones for a year now with FFCs...
I can't wait for this. It really should have been added back when the Nexus S first came out. I support the idea of getting all of the kinks out, and if they made it better because of it then more power to them, but those at Google should work on their presentation. I know, it's not about bragging, it's about functionality, but come on.
I hate to say it, but they should have taken a cue from apple and released video chat in addition to their other big events. Just look at the iphone 4 (once again, sorry I had to bring it up). Of course Apple's presentation is overkill, but it was all of the things at once that made it a little bit beast. New design, thinner, faster, double res display, and software that gave it multitasking and facetime.
Now that it's this close to I/O Google should have just released then. It's just two weeks, why not wait? Then explode at I/O with all the goodies. Better that than an "oh yeah, by the way......"
Just my opinion though.
Skype + Other Mediocre Video take notice
Glad that Google stepped up to the plate to do this. Hopefully they will do an IOS client later (not that I use an Apple device but have friends that do - FaceTime being Apple only just blows).
Good thing it looks like from the demo is it will work with the Gmail Talk/Video plug in - which is BRILLIANT! First Google Video Call app that can go back to a desktop - a sore missing feature since Skype has done NOTHING with Video on Android. This being Google let's see if they later support multi chat/video - I don't see Google doing that and charging for it like everyone else (barring Qik) is trying to do.
Android really needed a proper Video Talk app and I hope this cuts it.
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If it works between PCs (including Macs!) and phones with the Nexus S's front-facing camera, this is a godsend. NOTHING yet in the Android Market fulfills both those requirements, something I find is a big fail after there's been Android phones for a year now with FFCs...
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Looks like it will, from the Google Link:
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2011/04/video-chat-on-your-android-phone.html
Their text:
You can now video or voice chat with your friends, family and colleagues right from your Android phone, whether they’re on their compatible Android tablet or phone, or using Gmail with Google Talk on their computer. You can make calls over a 3G or 4G data network (if your carrier supports it) or over Wi-Fi.

Android Speaktoit App Blows Away Apple's Siri

Android App Speaktoit Assistant Blows Away Siri...and available for 97.5% of ALL 190million Android out there (unlike the Siri junk which is only available for the iPhone4Sux - meaning 0%) [Video]
October 13, 2011, By Leo Xavier
http://www.devicemag.com/2011/10/13...nt-is-more-popular-than-iphone-4s-siri-video/
VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myE498nyfGw&feature=player_embedded
You will most probably agree with us when we say that Apple failed to deliver anything awesome at the unveiling ceremony of its iPhone 4S. Although the device comes with a lot of hardware upgrades, it didn’t amaze people like all the past products from the company.
One of the device’s features that the company was so excited to tell everyone about was the Siri technology that “lets you use your voice to send…” well, many of you already know the rest of that announcement.
That description about Siri is just too much of an introduction for something that is already available on the market and is much more popular than Siri. We are talking about the Speaktoit Assistant Android app.
The Speaktoit app may not have a sleek name as Siri, but it has more features and downloads of the app have vaulted into the tens of thousands in the past week.
According to a spokesperson for Speaktoit, downloads have grown “400% in seven days” and the app is “adding 3,000 users a day based (so far) only on word of mouth and rave reviews on the Android Market”.
The free Android app is already doing many of the things that Siri will start offering tomorrow onwards.
Similar to Siri, Speaktoit understands conversational context. You just have to tell the app what it should do. It can send emails, send texts, look up information, post to Twitter, update your Facebook, find news, look up traffic, look up weather, and do much more.
But in addition to all those features, Speaktoit also lets you choose a cartoon avatar to converse with. Therefore it’s much more personal and fun.
Better still, the app learns as it’s used, making it more helpful with time. For example, users wanted the app to play music, and the functionality is available today.
Just in case you are wondering, the iOS and BlackBerry versions of the Speaktoit app will be available in the very near future. We will let you know when that happens. For now, check out the video and you can place your comments below.
VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myE498nyfGw&feature=player_embedded
How can it be better than Siri when no one knows how good Siri will be? I guess true reviews can come out today since the devices go out.
Of course this is just and advertisement/press release.... and so we shouldn't beleive a word of it.
The video is impressive, but it appears to use Google Voice for recognition so recognition will only be that good. It's also very fast (like the apple commercials), which lead me to believe it's not real time and probably carefully scripted.
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wasn't Siri an app in the app store before iPhone acquired it? I don't think its a new thing for the iphone 4S
bdroc said:
wasn't Siri an app in the app store before iPhone acquired it? I don't think its a new thing for the iphone 4S
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Apple always claim things even when they already exist for a long time.
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Apple always claim things even when they already exist for a long time.
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Yup quite true.
Although coming back to this app, I've tried it and it didn't go very well.
Apple bought Siri well over a year ago.
I'm at work right now, but I installed STI and it's kind of fun. I'm mostly typing into it. Things like "Get me to REI", "What's the closest Subway?" "Twitter" and everything is connecting to the right answer pretty quickly. I'm looking forward to testing it out later when I can talk into it.
Edit: I've gotten quite a few error messages now: "There was an unknown error. I'm telling my creators about it right now so they can fix it as soon as possible."
so i just installed this APP on my vibrant and it sucks balls. It lags like a MOFO. I asked all sorts of questions and only about 20% of the time it got it right.
I'm not a fan of this APP as of now.
Hopefully with updates and lag fixes will improve it.
"Thumbs down" for me. But good effort
I'm not knocking this app, this is just my personal experience.
Installed over miui, ss series. FC city, dialer framework apps mms, made my phone unuseable. Once I uninstalling went back to normal
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so i just installed this APP on my vibrant and it sucks balls. It lags like a MOFO. I asked all sorts of questions and only about 20% of the time it got it right.
I'm not a fan of this APP as of now.
Hopefully with updates and lag fixes will improve it.
"Thumbs down" for me. But good effort
I'm not knocking this app, this is just my personal experience.
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Works fine on mine with Bionix 1.3.1.... I'd say it recognized 85% of the things I said... thumbs up....
I played with it for about an hour but it only recognized one thing. oh well.
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I am an android user, I have both speaktoit and vlingo and use both quite often. I got the chance to.interact with Siri for a bit today. I will say the biggest difference between both of them and siri is the fact that siri has personality. Yes vlingo and speaktoit are quite resourceful, but you can't joke around with them! Ask siri where you can hide a body or tell it your horny! Ask it for a blowjob etc and the personality aspect of it comes into play! Im sorry to say but being able to interact with an application on that level and with the responses it.gives in my opinion make it more desirable to me! Yes android has had all the fundamentals for quite a long time, but apple took it to a whole new level with personality! I look forward to seeing what the android community and Google developers will.come up with in the personality aspect
please, lets look at facts and not be fanboys OP. I am an android user/programmer, and even I will admit, Siri is quite better than anything android really has now.
tried speak to it and my major problem with it, if it doesnt know how to reply to your query, it just says something like looking into it, and a lot of its responses are ambiguous. As far as i am concerned, speak to it is google voice given its lack of understanding for typically used phrases
Voice action app is really good. It will set your alarm and things like that by just saying " wake me up at 8 a.m." You can kinda have a conversation with it too.
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And android developers have begun to mimic siri, now in alpha stage and availiable from market is an App called Iris. I look forward to the beta's and final release!
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Samsung ripped off Siri? I don't think so....

As an owner of both Samsung and Apple products I think I'm in a position to give a fair opinion on things. The one thing that really gets to me sometimes however is the assumption that Apple are always the pioneer of things, and that if any other manufacturer has a similar feature then they MUST be ripping Off Apple.
This is NOT the case with S-Voice.
The reason I bring this up is because, in light of the introduction of the Galaxy S3, people have been quick to decide that Samsung is ripping off Apple AGAIN with this product. 'It's just like Siri' people are quick to assume. Well as a British user of Siri I beg to differ, and I present these points to the doubters:
S-Talk - is simply a contraction of Samsung Talk, the name given to the Vlingo based app brought about by double tapping the Home button on the Galaxy S2. This app was integrated into the product at launch, and can do many of the things that Siri can do, though with less effective natural speech algorithms. The fact remains though that Samsung integrated a hardware-button-linked voice command feature into the i9100 a full SIX MONTHS before Siri was even announced. What we have here is two large companies buying into a voice command feature created by another company (Siri, in Apple's case; Vlingo in Samsung's case). Both of these pieces of software are or were downloadable for older devices in a less effective way upon release of the respective handset.
So with the S3 Samsung have taken it a step further. With the S3 I will be able to do a huge number of things I cannot do with Siri, such as changing the volume, switching cellular connections on and off and even getting information on businesses in the UK. What a revelation. These are all things I want to be able to do with Siri but can't because Apple, in their infinite wisdom, decide that we don't need these features for the time being. Samsung have beaten them to it. So just as Siri improved upon Vlingo in the S2, six months down the line this improves on Siri in the 4S.
It's natural evolution.
So who's ripping off whom?
I don't think Samsung help their own cause sometimes: the obvious digs at Apple in their adverts are disappointingly childish in my opinion; but I just don't get what they've done wrong here. Are we just supposed to bow down to Apple as the inspiration for voice command just because it was the only compelling feature on their latest phone, on which they spent millions of dollars to ensure that we were blinded by the hype around its features?
I'd be interested to hear everyone else's take on this.
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emmm if anyone say that they copied from apple, then apple copied from nokia. Because this feature nokia had long time ago before iphone however it wasnt so advanced like now siri, but idea was copied ^^
I agree with this assessment.
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Voice control is nothing new. Windows mobile had it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFcqwKrxtO8&feature=related
Yes I know this but I was comparing current market competitors. Windows mobile also had touch screens before Apple but it doesn't really say a lot.
come on~ we all know samsung just improve "voice command" to getting more better features xD
Neither Apple nor Samsung has done anything special other than develop an app based upon third party software....the phrase "rip-off" is a flagrant disconnect of understanding..
For an understanding of the history of speech recognition, wiki Nuance Communications, Dragon Systems, Vlingo & ScanSoft... voice recognition has been a hotbed of incestuous activity in the Boston area since the 80's
Only thing Apple is always pioneer in, is buying patent and societies.
Siri was first developped for android and BB when Apple bought it and maid it iphone only.
And it' what append with chomp.
Seems to me the territory has been sitting there and Samsung, Apple et al have just been mapping it with various levels of success. What I mean is that anybody could predict that voice interaction is an essential evolution, as is gesture actions and augmented reality. It's just a question of developing the tech that can deliver. The idea that Apple 'invented' this via Siri is like saying that the person who invented the horse and cart also invented the notion of speed.
I like to imagine 10 years down the line what we'll be able to do. 'phones' probably won't even exist as we know them now. I guess the goal is to remove the hardware as much as possible from the ability to access data.Another example are bluetooth headphones...great idea but so far audibly poor substitutes for good quality wired alternatives but that bridge will be crossed in a year or two.
The only fear I have is the effect of all this increased radio-activity on our brains...
I had voice commands in my ancient Motorola Slvr L7i.
Who is copying whom?
leoni1980 said:
As an owner of both Samsung and Apple products I think I'm in a position to give a fair opinion on things. The one thing that really gets to me sometimes however is the assumption that Apple are always the pioneer of things, and that if any other manufacturer has a similar feature then they MUST be ripping Off Apple.
This is NOT the case with S-Voice.
The reason I bring this up is because, in light of the introduction of the Galaxy S3, people have been quick to decide that Samsung is ripping off Apple AGAIN with this product. 'It's just like Siri' people are quick to assume. Well as a British user of Siri I beg to differ, and I present these points to the doubters:
S-Talk - is simply a contraction of Samsung Talk, the name given to the Vlingo based app brought about by double tapping the Home button on the Galaxy S2. This app was integrated into the product at launch, and can do many of the things that Siri can do, though with less effective natural speech algorithms. The fact remains though that Samsung integrated a hardware-button-linked voice command feature into the i9100 a full SIX MONTHS before Siri was even announced. What we have here is two large companies buying into a voice command feature created by another company (Siri, in Apple's case; Vlingo in Samsung's case). Both of these pieces of software are or were downloadable for older devices in a less effective way upon release of the respective handset.
So with the S3 Samsung have taken it a step further. With the S3 I will be able to do a huge number of things I cannot do with Siri, such as changing the volume, switching cellular connections on and off and even getting information on businesses in the UK. What a revelation. These are all things I want to be able to do with Siri but can't because Apple, in their infinite wisdom, decide that we don't need these features for the time being. Samsung have beaten them to it. So just as Siri improved upon Vlingo in the S2, six months down the line this improves on Siri in the 4S.
It's natural evolution.
So who's ripping off whom?
I don't think Samsung help their own cause sometimes: the obvious digs at Apple in their adverts are disappointingly childish in my opinion; but I just don't get what they've done wrong here. Are we just supposed to bow down to Apple as the inspiration for voice command just because it was the only compelling feature on their latest phone, on which they spent millions of dollars to ensure that we were blinded by the hype around its features?
I'd be interested to hear everyone else's take on this.
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I agree with this. Please remember that every company has innovative ideas but can get can get caught in the crossfire of legal red tape.
Apple go think of suing samsung n google
APPLE GO THINK OF SUING SAMSUNG N GOOGLE rather than innovating
think abt how pricy th nxt fone vl b
whilst android manufacturers vl think abt hw to offer best in tech at worthy prices
Ppl copy other ppl probably every day. So any innovator probably based his invention on sth. he copied from s/o else.
There is a distinct line between offering similar features and patent infringement.
Ppl. here have pointed out that voice recognition has been implemented by other handset manufacturers before. But the buck does not stop there. There has been voice recognition on PCs before that and so on...
My answer to the Apple Fanboy, "Thanks for asking, it works very well. I heard that they buried Steve face down, so feel free to swing by and kiss his @ss."
the better analogy is saying that Apple says they invented the horse. given that Siri without the voice recognition is like talking to a brick
The core technology used by vlingo, siri, s voice, dragon systems is all the same..
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The idea that Apple 'invented' this via Siri is like saying that the person who invented the horse and cart also invented the notion of speed.
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I have a friendly rivalry going with a tech savvy iPhone co-worker.
My first smartphone was the Galaxy S, and I remember using Google Voice Actions and voice search to demonstrate Android's coolness way back before Siri. The novelty wore off, but the debate continued on various fronts.
Months later, after a lot of back and forth of whether to go Galaxy S2 or iPhone 4s, he went with Apple. I had downloaded the Android Assistant, and we had the smartphone voice battles going on again. And here we are again half a year later re-hashing the Siri vs Android voice debate.
Samsung had incorporated Sensory's voice-activation technology first in the S2 (which came before iPhone's Siri), then followed with it built into the Note's S-voice and now the Galaxy S3:
http://www.marketwire.com/press-rel...n-to-the-samsung-galaxy-hi-galaxy-1652657.htm
Voice control of computing devices has been a holy grail of AI and pop sci-fi since at least the original Star Trek. The sheep simply have short attention spans and little knowledge of history outside pop culture, of which the iPhone is a centerpiece, yes?
http://socialbarrel.com/sensory-voi...alds-truly-hands-free-mobile-device-operation
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Also, take a look at this picture presented by Sensory, Inc.
http://www.sensoryinc.com/products/trulyhandsfreevoicecontrol.html
It's a clear breakdown of the various parts needed in intelligent voice-controlled computing devices.
The smartphone is going to win this phase of The Singularity.

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