Stock QC2 Firmware - Battery tips? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answers

Hi Friends,
Just wonder if this is normal for this phone, or you guys could give me some pointers for extending my battery life, specifically the Screen On Time?
I have:
- Stock QC2 firmware - I believe this is Nougat with the March security patch
- No Facebook installed (Disabled)
- I am on data about 8 hours a day, rest is WiFi, Bluetooth for my Watch, and NFC is off
- Generally use a black and red theme
- Doing Ad blocking with the AdClear VPN solution
- Sometimes I make conference calls of under 2 hours
- No games, no YouTube watching
With this set I can barely manage like 3 hours of SOT. Is this normal? What am I doing wrong? Any pointers? Thanks!

3 hours SOT is not normal for unrooted stock. I would suggest downloading GSam Battery Monitor and finding out what is hogging the battery. Note that you will need to manually enable the battery statistics permission with ADB for some reason, but after that it will work like normal.
The top two lines should be Android System and Kernel. If you see any non-system app in the vicinity, that is your likely culprit unless you can explain it with normal usage (for example, Firefox is at the top of the list on mine because I surf the web with it)
Alternately, if nothing odd shows up, you may have a bad battery.

The other thing you might take a look at is shutting off the Location setting that scans Wifi/Bluetooth. That is a massive battery killer

Thank you for the helpful responses guys! I'll try GSam Battery stuff... What are your SOTs BTW?
Thanks!

Also my vibration is always on, my back lit keys are always on, and a 30 second screen timeout time, if it helps? Thanks!

Finally, this is the AT&T model with all the bloat disabled.

I'm typically off charge 18 hours and on data the entire time. I do run a Exchange email app that pushes email, my SOT isn't really huge, maybe around 2-3 hours and I also have BT always on and connected to my S3 Frontier. At the end of my day, I end up with with battery around 50% ish.........
Did you recently update, or did you do a clean install? Sometimes the battery can take a few days to settle in

kangi26 said:
I'm typically off charge 18 hours and on data the entire time. I do run a Exchange email app that pushes email, my SOT isn't really huge, maybe around 2-3 hours and I also have BT always on and connected to my S3 Frontier. At the end of my day, I end up with with battery around 50% ish.........
Did you recently update, or did you do a clean install? Sometimes the battery can take a few days to settle in
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That's pretty amazing! Yes, clean install and updated from MM to Nougat and then the latest patch.
I've got a battery monitoring app installed now... Let's see what it unveils... I'm thinking maybe it's my settings, syncing and etc, cause I NEVER get the SOTs people report on XDA LOL, on any phone really except the Mate 9 I had...

ProFragger said:
That's pretty amazing! Yes, clean install and updated from MM to Nougat and then the latest patch.
I've got a battery monitoring app installed now... Let's see what it unveils... I'm thinking maybe it's my settings, syncing and etc, cause I NEVER get the SOTs people report on XDA LOL, on any phone really except the Mate 9 I had...
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I'd give it a few days to settle in.
Battery life is SO subjective. The app's installed and the person's usage habits play a massive part in battery life, and you saying that you never get what others are, speak a lot to that.
The built in optimizers in Nougat seem to do a pretty good job at putting unused battery sucking apps to sleep.

ProFragger said:
Hi Friends,
Just wonder if this is normal for this phone, or you guys could give me some pointers for extending my battery life, specifically the Screen On Time?
I have:
- Stock QC2 firmware - I believe this is Nougat with the March security patch
- No Facebook installed (Disabled)
- I am on data about 8 hours a day, rest is WiFi, Bluetooth for my Watch, and NFC is off
- Generally use a black and red theme
- Doing Ad blocking with the AdClear VPN solution
- Sometimes I make conference calls of under 2 hours
- No games, no YouTube watching
With this set I can barely manage like 3 hours of SOT. Is this normal? What am I doing wrong? Any pointers? Thanks!
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I notice one thing, when i connect my Gear 2 by bluetooth battery on phone less about 10-15% less. With out watch and no FB and FB messenger, NFC on, most of day on data, wifi off, 5-6 hours call ( do to nature of my job) i get around 3.5 hours SOT.
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kangi26 said:
I'd give it a few days to settle in.
Battery life is SO subjective. The app's installed and the person's usage habits play a massive part in battery life, and you saying that you never get what others are, speak a lot to that.
The built in optimizers in Nougat seem to do a pretty good job at putting unused battery sucking apps to sleep.
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I agree bud, so I think my usage pattern must be horrible, cause from the earliest Androids like Droid Incredible to Axon 7 and S7 Edge and others, I never get what people mention. And some of their claimed usage is ridiculous, they say they play games all day, LTE, Videos and still get like 5 hours or etc... Boggles my mind. My biggest battery hog I suspect is my VPN based AdGuard, maybe the vibration, but compared to gaming and etc, they sound so insignificant.
norbarb said:
I notice one thing, when i connect my Gear 2 by bluetooth battery on phone less about 10-15% less. With out watch and no FB and FB messenger, NFC on, most of day on data, wifi off, 5-6 hours call ( do to nature of my job) i get around 3.5 hours SOT.
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Yeah, that's more like my usage. Without my Watch, this may be the case. I don't use NFC. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

jshamlet said:
3 hours SOT is not normal for unrooted stock. I would suggest downloading GSam Battery Monitor and finding out what is hogging the battery. Note that you will need to manually enable the battery statistics permission with ADB for some reason, but after that it will work like normal.
The top two lines should be Android System and Kernel. If you see any non-system app in the vicinity, that is your likely culprit unless you can explain it with normal usage (for example, Firefox is at the top of the list on mine because I surf the web with it)
Alternately, if nothing odd shows up, you may have a bad battery.
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This is a actually normal for USA SAMSUNG battery which is why no1 should get Galaxy S7 on USA carriers battery is even 100 maH smaller at 3500. Battery is always crap usa versions. And I am stuck in them nougat is bad for battery nothing you can do but downgrade to Android 6.0.1 with Odin. Best battery I can upload a vid for proof att Samsung S7 edge battery sucks and so will all USA carriers s8 never buying Samsung again GG. Switch phones best option iPhones have best battery but I hate them. I'd go for a phone with biggest mAh in specs and read reviews for battery. If downgrading doesn't work sorry for all Samsung lovers who read this it's just fact if you actually compare USA version to international. Battery on international is 92 ish hours not even close on USA version +1 sorry for my rant. Second best option I went to zero lemon and got a battery charging case that was like 10000 something maH and I never loose battery because I keep case on entire time makes phone weigh 4 pounds tho

BaconSeeds said:
This is a actually normal for USA SAMSUNG battery which is why no1 should get Galaxy S7 on USA carriers battery is even 100 maH smaller at 3500. Battery is always crap usa versions. And I am stuck in them nougat is bad for battery nothing you can do but downgrade to Android 6.0.1 with Odin. Best battery I can upload a vid for proof att Samsung S7 edge battery sucks and so will all USA carriers s8 never buying Samsung again GG. Switch phones best option iPhones have best battery but I hate them. I'd go for a phone with biggest mAh in specs and read reviews for battery. If downgrading doesn't work sorry for all Samsung lovers who read this it's just fact if you actually compare USA version to international. Battery on international is 92 ish hours not even close on USA version +1 sorry for my rant. Second best option I went to zero lemon and got a battery charging case that was like 10000 something maH and I never loose battery because I keep case on entire time makes phone weigh 4 pounds tho
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts, bud, I think I would agree, this must be reality. An update for me, seems like getting rid of the VPN based Adblocker has helped battery. Last night, I finally got 4 hours SOT, but that was with the VPN app. Trying without it all day, let's see how it goes.
BTW, hands down, the best battery I have ever seen in the US is on the Huawei Mate 9, even on Nougat. The HUGE battery helps, but legitimately, I was getting 7 hours of SOT.
Thanks guys!

Got the attached SOT after turning off the VPN based ad blocker and using it as needed, rather than on the whole time... Is this closer to normal? ?

I only get 3-4hrs SOT but it is connected to my huawei watch and music is playing when it connects to my bluetooth fm transmitter in my car. I also usually have it plugged in while driving. The best battery life SOT I've seen is on the moto z play. My sister has that phone and she got almost 9hrs SOT. Usually gets at least 7. Someone got over 10.

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BATTERY LIFE: Heavy Use Endurance

Playing Candy Crush for 22 hours straight can take its toll on your battery (and your marriage). Rate this thread to express how the Note5's battery performs under heavy use. A higher rating indicates that it lasts a long time even when playing games, streaming video and audio, and doing other CPU-intensive activities.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
When using the Note5 heavily, I can get through an entire day...but barely. Like if phone comes off the charger at 7am and I beat the crap out of it with tons of use, it'll be at around 10% by 8 or 9pm. If I'm going out, I just put it on the fast charger and bam, I'm back up to 50% in like 30 minutes.
I'm getting 8hrs sot, with WiFi running continuous, but mobile data off,I'm moderate user,still my previous phone didn't last me a day,but thanks to this phone now I'm carefree about battery,well at least for me the quest for better battery ends
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I just got the phone and am only getting from 7am to 1-2pm, then having to charge you guys must not browse the web a lot and use social media to much.
when you full charge with your note 5 100% what is the timing estimate usage hours
Dear All,
i want to know your phone when you full charge with your note 5 100% what is the timing estimate usage hours?
for me show 24hr8m.
would you help tell me about your phone it is the same or not.
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man this phone battery sucks, i use sometimes facebook, and have some news apps , some youtube, email, and bit of this and that
i charge it overnight and leave home at 8 am
and at 7 pm the phone battery is dead that is such a bad battery i wish to know how the people here praise its battery it really is bad
HI Man, it is as same as me
man today it ran out of battery so fast by 5pm it is dead, and i barely used it . Oh man i feel i did a huge mistake buying this phone
i tried factory restting it and still the same
this is so so so bad that i am so missing my iphone which was working great and had an amazing battery life
and add salt to the injury i ended up buying the sm-n920k which is the korean version and this has no rom support what so ever here on xda
i am so disappointed
For those of you that are having a lot of trouble getting through a day, I'd highly recommend this http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563 because I got at a minimum 150% of my original screen on time compared to when I just got the phone.
Guys i don y know what you re doing but my battery life is amazing. By far the best phone and battery money can buy at the moment. Check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63851201
I'm not sure what you people with terrible battery life are doing. I hardly used my phone today but it's still been on for a while. Switch to T-mobile and put some cool stuff on it. I am by no means an android expert, but the quest for battery life is how I discovered XDA.
My experience is different. With moderate use i drain about 12% an hour. Then again im on the moar rom with no bloatware running in back ground. But heck even with heavy use. I have yet to see the phone less than 50%.
i am not using my phone when i at work and now 16:15pm. unplugged at 07:00am. total 12,5 hours on. SOT is 1 hours and now phone at %37. Heavy AndroidSystem and AndroidOS battery drain. i tried to use my phone without root for one week but impossible. %5 per hour. Battery graphic is going down everytime!!! This is so stupid!! again i will root my phone and i will use custom kernel and again everything will be fine again.
1) samsung dont know how to code a good kernel
2) without root note 5 is worst multitasking phone with huge 4gb of ram
3) without root i cant even delete that never use and never wanted phones by me (facebook or instagram or other bull****s)
4) without root i cannot use my phone without lagfree( because i must disable or delete some useless apps that allways sits on my RAM!!)
5) i paying lots of money and for use a good phone i must forget my guarantie!!
Thanks a lot samsung! note 5 will be my last samsung phone
Actually we must talk about that! Thanks !!
hykhleif said:
man this phone battery sucks, i use sometimes facebook, and have some news apps , some youtube, email, and bit of this and that
i charge it overnight and leave home at 8 am
and at 7 pm the phone battery is dead that is such a bad battery i wish to know how the people here praise its battery it really is bad
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Hey hykhleif, which problem ur facing my brother was facing the same problem, n he is not much tech savy n much into anroaid so i serch Somtime for him, i wanna to share with u maybe it will bit help to you, GO TO SETTING THEN DEVICE ADMINISTRATION N DISABLE IT, N IN SMART MANAGER TO GO RAM N STOP UNUSE BACKGRAOUD APPS WHICH UR NOT IN USE.. may be thses tips help u coz he is having good battery life now... Thnks....
I get very decent battery life, check this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/battery-life-discussion-t3178480
I currently have all of the bloatware running, as well. I used to use Package Disabler Pro, but no longer find that I need to use it for battery life. 99% of the time I am NOT using wifi either.
Things I have done (to the best of my memory):
1. Disabled VOLTE
2. Wifi calling
3. Turn off location history
4. Remove Android Device Manager as a Device Administrator
5. Screen brightness set pretty low, but I have it set to auto as well
Probably a couple of other things I missed, but I believe those optimizations have greatly improved battery life on my phone.
Hope this helps.
Battery life drain on note 5
svetius said:
When using the Note5 heavily, I can get through an entire day...but barely. Like if phone comes off the charger at 7am and I beat the crap out of it with tons of use, it'll be at around 10% by 8 or 9pm. If I'm going out, I just put it on the fast charger and bam, I'm back up to 50% in like 30 minutes.
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Any one has this problem after the latest update i have battery drian faster and my phone always has used more than 85% from ram.(Note5 SM_N920c)???
i would say this accounts for heavy use...a little bit of everything but.mostly youtube 1440p videos with almost full brightness...some facebook, browsing,games, etc...only wifi. from this point till i reach 5% i ll use only data to.simulate further heavy usage - so i ll update the info as soon as i reach 5% or so...
my config : darthstalker v5, skyhigh kernel 2.6 undervolted by around -100mv on almost everything, if you want i ll post links to the synapse settings from othe threads...and frequencies locked to a57 min @600 max @2400mhz, a53 min @300 max @1500mhz, gpu 266/600mhz. coming up - only data connection from 51% to 5%.
and here s the end result (so basically 49% spent only on wifi and another 46% spent only on data...
saferisk said:
For those of you that are having a lot of trouble getting through a day, I'd highly recommend this http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563 because I got at a minimum 150% of my original screen on time compared to when I just got the phone.
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Seconded, and can confirm the improvement is huge.
well lets just hope that the upcoming marshmallow firmware do better

Help with new s7 edge PLEASE

Hello,
After reading alot of reviews about the s7 edge battery life i decided to get it. so i got 2 days ago and was really excited about it. the problem the battery is draining so fast and thats really confusing
ive seen screenshots with 50 hours and 60 hours with estimated time. mine barely shows 7 hours. today for example i left the house at 8 with 92% and now im back wth 36% left screen was on auto with wifi
and 3g and sometime gps on. is this normal? am i being paranoid? is it true that the battery will get better with more days of use?
Please tell me what should i do im really worried that its faulty or something.
PS: i did a factory reset before i use it.
Yes, it will take a couple of days for the battery to level out. Do you have the Exynos or Snapdragon processor? What apps are reporting high battery use? Have you disabled any apps?
Sorry for the barrage of questions, but all of these things play a role in your battery life. I recommend GSAM battery monitor and Greenify with aggressive doze, but I will say that 50-60 hours is ambitious. I can usually get 25-30 hours with about 5 hours of SOT. That is with a combination of wifi, 4g, gps and Bluetooth on (android wear), some gaming and facebook, instagram, etc.
neezy13 said:
Yes, it will take a couple of days for the battery to level out. Do you have the Exynos or Snapdragon processor? What apps are reporting high battery use? Have you disabled any apps?
Sorry for the barrage of questions, but all of these things play a role in your battery life. I recommend GSAM battery monitor and Greenify with aggressive doze, but I will say that 50-60 hours is ambitious. I can usually get 25-30 hours with about 5 hours of SOT. That is with a combination of wifi, 4g, gps and Bluetooth on (android wear), some gaming and facebook, instagram, etc.
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Hi thanks for the reply, yeah its my fault i forgot to mention some information
I am using the Exynos model in Netherlands. the screen is always on the top of the list of the battery usage. im using gsam to monitor the battery and i dont think there is anything unusual there android system on the top using 25% or something. im really scared of using anything so it wont die on me outside today i was only navigating and doing some whatsapp calls on the 3g network "not even 4g". i only disabled facebook and using nova launcher and the AOD is off also. im not sure if i should send it back... how many days are we talking about for the battery to get better? i only want somehow a good battery not worse than my old grand prime. as i said i got it wendesday's evening and now its friday and its still bad
lollimolly said:
Hi thanks for the reply, yeah its my fault i forgot to mention some information
I am using the Exynos model in Netherlands. the screen is always on the top of the list of the battery usage. im using gsam to monitor the battery and i dont think there is anything unusual there android system on the top using 25% or something. im really scared of using anything so it wont die on me outside today i was only navigating and doing some whatsapp calls on the 3g network "not even 4g". i only disabled facebook and using nova launcher and the AOD is off also. im not sure if i should send it back... how many days are we talking about for the battery to get better? i only want somehow a good battery not worse than my old grand prime. as i said i got it wendesday's evening and now its friday and its still bad
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If I'm reading correctly, you are losing about 60% in 5 hours? If so, that is definitely excessive even during the first 2 or 3 days unless the screen was on and the phone active the entire time. Can you post screen shots of you battery stats? Maybe some app is causing the problem, but is not being reported as using too much battery.
Some folks say that the different firmwares have different battery usage. Has yours updated?
neezy13 said:
If I'm reading correctly, you are losing about 60% in 5 hours? If so, that is definitely excessive even during the first 2 or 3 days unless the screen was on and the phone active the entire time. Can you post screen shots of you battery stats? Maybe some app is causing the problem, but is not being reported as using too much battery.
Some folks say that the different firmwares have different battery usage. Has yours updated?
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ok someone told me to turn it off and charge to 100% so i dont have enough data now. but im doing a test now with pokemon go lol
the screen is on about 70% brightness wifi and gps are on and radio is off (i have low cell signal now) and music app playing in the background and now after 50 minutes i am at 89% with screen on all the time. do you think this is good or bad?
i just noticed something in most of the screen shots from other people gsam shows about 3.80v near the temperature but mine show 4.07v does this makes any difference?
That sounds normal for an hour of paying Pokemon Go. It's pretty battery intensive. That voltage is just the current battery charge. It'll drop as your battery percent drops.
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Nexus 6P - Bad SOT

Hey guys, I'm very new to XDA but I really hope someone can help me out. I'm a nexus fan and its just the best but I bought the nexus 6P thinking that I'm going to get around 6 Hours SOT considering I used to get around 4 with my N5 with the same level of usage. I want to know what I'm doing wrong or if I'm overlooking something.
Let me tell you about my phone and how I use it.
I have Elemental X + Pure nexus installed
Elemental x settings are on Ghost Pepper and I put CPU governmer on ' ondemand '
• I don't have Facebook and Messenger installed (These two were some SERIOUSS battery hoggers )
• I use google chrome push notifications as a replacement
• I use snapchat but not very excessively
• Turned off all gestures as i never used them
• Adaptive display is off
• Ambient display is off
• Notification Lights are off
• GOOGLE automatically syncs everything at anytime but other than that i manually sync whatsapp
• Location is always off except at rare times
• I use bluetooth to connect to my car to play music for an hour daily.
• Brightness is at 30-60% for 3/5th the day, 2/5th of the time it's lower than 30%.
• LTE is on for aboutt 4-5 hours a day and the rest is on WIFI.
Furthermore, I use my laptop more than my phone so I'm constantly picking up my phone and am not allowing it to fall into deep sleep for a good amount of time except at night or when im playing some serious CSGO; I noticed that its during the screen off time where I'm losing so much battery.
Now after reading all of this, do you still think I deserve to get that much screen on time?
Is there some setting I have missed out or is it the kernel + rom combination, I am really frustrated. This phone is magical but the battery is just so disappointing, I want at least 5 hours on screen time (I just barely reach 4 hours SOT)
Oh and let me further explain how the battery dies. Usually I'll be browsing facebook or 9gag and using snapchat and lets say its at 90%, it wont budge for 10 minutes or even more regardless of how heavily I use it. But the moment I turn the screen off and turn it back on, woooshh I'll lose 1%, and when I start using it again, another percent drops instantly. This is just seriously irritating and I have no clue as to what I need to do.
Thank you for any help!
No one I've ever read of gets 6 hours of screen time on this device. Between 4.5-5+ is pretty typical.
Playing music while the screen is off will have a pretty big impact on sot, especially if it's playing via the phones speakers. I know that has a big impact on my sot. There are some screenshots on here of 6 hours sot, but I suspect they set the screen timeout very high while leaving the device inactive. 4 hours is the average sot on this device from my experience.
jibanator said:
Hey guys, I'm very new to XDA but I really hope someone can help me out. I'm a nexus fan and its just the best but I bought the nexus 6P thinking that I'm going to get around 6 Hours SOT considering I used to get around 4 with my N5 with the same level of usage. I want to know what I'm doing wrong or if I'm overlooking something.
Let me tell you about my phone and how I use it.
I have Elemental X + Pure nexus installed
Elemental x settings are on Ghost Pepper and I put CPU governmer on ' ondemand '
• I don't have Facebook and Messenger installed (These two were some SERIOUSS battery hoggers )
• I use google chrome push notifications as a replacement
• I use snapchat but not very excessively
• Turned off all gestures as i never used them
• Adaptive display is off
• Ambient display is off
• Notification Lights are off
• GOOGLE automatically syncs everything at anytime but other than that i manually sync whatsapp
• Location is always off except at rare times
• I use bluetooth to connect to my car to play music for an hour daily.
• Brightness is at 30-60% for 3/5th the day, 2/5th of the time it's lower than 30%.
• LTE is on for aboutt 4-5 hours a day and the rest is on WIFI.
Furthermore, I use my laptop more than my phone so I'm constantly picking up my phone and am not allowing it to fall into deep sleep for a good amount of time except at night or when im playing some serious CSGO; I noticed that its during the screen off time where I'm losing so much battery.
Now after reading all of this, do you still think I deserve to get that much screen on time?
Is there some setting I have missed out or is it the kernel + rom combination, I am really frustrated. This phone is magical but the battery is just so disappointing, I want at least 5 hours on screen time (I just barely reach 4 hours SOT)
Oh and let me further explain how the battery dies. Usually I'll be browsing facebook or 9gag and using snapchat and lets say its at 90%, it wont budge for 10 minutes or even more regardless of how heavily I use it. But the moment I turn the screen off and turn it back on, woooshh I'll lose 1%, and when I start using it again, another percent drops instantly. This is just seriously irritating and I have no clue as to what I need to do.
Thank you for any help!
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GhostPepper is meant to run on interactive governor not ondemand. Disable TouchBoost under CPU in EXKM.
As for the rest I can't comment because you use the phone differently than mine.
I came to understand that phones are different from each other. Some have 5-8 hours of SOT and some have 3-5 hours SOT. Usage is different from each person and phone.
I would agree with several of the others that SoT is more typically 4-5 hours...I use my phone pretty heavily so I'm probably toward the shorter end of that, but even with a somewhat degraded battery (70% according to accubattery) I can still get 3 or at least close. Now granted I was only getting 1-1.5 but I went through and wiped my phone, heavily limiting the number of apps I had installed (I had a ton), and reducing the number of Google apps and services (now, etc.) that I used. Other than that just a couple minor kernel tweaks (hawktail6p profile, disable touchboost, disable zram, etc. not even sure on that last one lol)...anyways getting much better battery afterwards.
I get 2 hours of sot. My phone is about a year-and-a-half old.
I have tried all sorts of ROMs and different kernels and every tweet you can think of to try to extend my battery life. But nothing works. I'm going to have to just get a different phone soon.
choder said:
I get 2 hours of sot. My phone is about a year-and-a-half old.
I have tried all sorts of ROMs and different kernels and every tweet you can think of to try to extend my battery life. But nothing works. I'm going to have to just get a different phone soon.
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Choder...I have also had my Nexus 6P since the first week it was released. I also was getting horrible battery life and I decided to order a new battery and replace it. I can tell you that my factory battery over almost a year and 3 months, had degraded horribly.
Remember when you first got it charged it up to full, the battery percentage would read 100 percent for almost a half hour BEFORE dropping. Well, it's like that again with this new battery I ordered off of ebay. Routinely getting between 5 and 6 hours SOT. I don't use my device for games, so its browsing, youtube, checking email and messages throughout the day. Don't get a new phone...spend the 13 bucks on a new battery and save the cash.
xBigMikex said:
Choder...I have also had my Nexus 6P since the first week it was released. I also was getting horrible battery life and I decided to order a new battery and replace it. I can tell you that my factory battery over almost a year and 3 months, had degraded horribly.
Remember when you first got it charged it up to full, the battery percentage would read 100 percent for almost a half hour BEFORE dropping. Well, it's like that again with this new battery I ordered off of ebay. Routinely getting between 5 and 6 hours SOT. I don't use my device for games, so its browsing, youtube, checking email and messages throughout the day. Don't get a new phone...spend the 13 bucks on a new battery and save the cash.
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i've seen the DIY battery replacement video on youtube. Looks difficult IMO. what did you think? Have you ever done anything like that before? really interested in trying but intimidated and don't want to bork my phone....
I am getting 2.5h SOT....any governor, any kernel, any ROM....just a bad device to buy for a good battery life.
I mean, it's frickin huge!! Of course you should expect 4h...but 2.5h cmon....I swear of God there is something wrong with Android...my phone turns off at 35% saying Power (0%) Shutting down...WTF?!?
mihovil13 said:
I am getting 2.5h SOT....any governor, any kernel, any ROM....just a bad device to buy for a good battery life.
I mean, it's frickin huge!! Of course you should expect 4h...but 2.5h cmon....I swear of God there is something wrong with Android...my phone turns off at 35% saying Power (0%) Shutting down...WTF?!?
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That shutdown at 30% is a known issue. You should RMA your phone. Huawei extended the warranty at least through the end of this month.
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jt1998 said:
i've seen the DIY battery replacement video on youtube. Looks difficult IMO. what did you think? Have you ever done anything like that before? really interested in trying but intimidated and don't want to bork my phone....
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If you find DIY intimidating you can always get a quote from a phone repair place. It would be cheaper than getting a new phone but you have to do some extreme things to get long battery life out of the 6P because the phone wasn't really made that way. Rooting, using a kernel tuned for battery savings (which will likely affect the performance of the phone) and using Naptime (which puts the phone into Doze as soon as the screen goes off) will all increase overall battery life.
jt1998 said:
i've seen the DIY battery replacement video on youtube. Looks difficult IMO. what did you think? Have you ever done anything like that before? really interested in trying but intimidated and don't want to bork my phone....
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It's not as difficult as it looks. Just make sure you have the proper tools. A heat gun, the hobby knife to fit between the aluminum body and the plastic screen housing.
Once you get the separation you can use a guitar pick to undo the clips around the edges of the 6p. Just take your time.
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I came to understand that phones are different from each other. Some have 5-8 hours of SOT and some have 3-5 hours SOT. Usage is different from each person and phone.
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I've never seen over 5 hrs
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I've never seen over 5 hrs
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So you haven't seen all. I can use my phone and get 6 to 7h SOT (check here on XDA and you will see a lot of people achieving the same). Places where LTE is very bad combined with Google services trying to sync whatever is the biggest drainer here that can bring me down to 4h.
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So you haven't seen all. I can use my phone and get 6 to 7h SOT (check here on XDA and you will see a lot of people achieving the same). Places where LTE is very bad combined with Google services trying to sync whatever is the biggest drainer here that can bring me down to 4h.
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We'll I average 6:41 sot based on gsam averages. My phone rarely gets below 50-55% before I'm charging that night (9am-12am) the last time I was at 50% was a could days ago and was at 3:40 sot. The biggest thing I do is on any rom or kernel...
First is turn off all the sync under Google. That means contacts, calendar... Everything. No reason to let all the stuff just sync all day long. If I add a contract I go in account, Google and sync my contacts. The next thing I do is turn off all the background data syncing under data usage, cellular data usage for apps that need not sync. I leave days syncing for things like Google app, text apps browser, things your need to sync. Put location to battery saving unless I need high accuracy.
That's it, it's not rocket science, of you're still getting bad sot, your phone is likely with bad signal, not sleeping from a rouge app or maybe the battery is degraded a lot. If you're getting the shutdown issue, then RMA your phone, that's a bad bug.
In my case I was talking about sync under 'backup and reinit'. Having to switch off normal google sync would be a bit of a hassle. I use gmail (which is crap but haven't reconnected k9mail yet) and more important i use keep to share stuffs. I prefer sync over sot and I anyway reach a day.
But in my case, believe me, the root cause is bad gapps sync when having atrocious 3G (LTE little less draining) which is half of my day.
At home data connection is OK and I can get past 6h as I said. My device is only 6 months old. I have an estimated capacity of 3440mAh.

Who thinks S8 battery life sux? Pls put your hands up!

There is a thread of fellows showing off envious battery life. Let me start one with the opposite lol
I think my phone might be faulty lol....Hope you folks can shed some light on how to improve battery life...
Snapdragon variant
AOD on
Infinity wallpaper on
Wifi and bt scanning off
BT off
Keep screen off setting off
No SHealth
Location history off
ForceDoze installed
Wifi/4g 50:50. 4g signal is quite weak at work though.
Wiped cache partition once after an OTA update.
Reset all app preferences oncr so I can keep an eye out for the access granted.
Auto brightness on
NFC on
Edge lighting on
No FB app, only use the wrapper Swipe with 2 hr update interval
WhatsApp, WeChat, Twitter installed
Adblocker for Samsung internet installed
FHD+
Outlook with 3 email accounts with sync and push on
Google Feeds off
Noticed one strange thing. Proximity sensor gets used quite often when on mobile internet. When on wifi, barely gets used..
Apparently you will be getting 16 + hrs from one charge? Oh that's just an atrocity! Lol.
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Apparently you will be getting 16 + hrs from one charge? Oh that's just an atrocity! Lol.
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I have no idea as to how some folks can achieve close to a day's usage with 4-5 hrs SOT..
I don't even call myself a medium user? Just surfing the internet whilst listing to music (stored on the SD card) whilst communutig (2 hrs in total both ways). Checking emails, a bit of messaging, FB via Swipe, no game at all at this stage (I don't even dare to try lol), etc..
The S8 Battery Life sucks I have to charge it three times a day.
It's been terrible for my S8. I barely touch the thing and I can't get thru a work day. I don't install any social network apps as well since they smash battery.
Going to chat with Samsung about returning it.
Man you sound like me lol. I have this beautiful, powerful piece of technology, amazing screen and all that stuff; and yet, I find myself hesitant to even use my phone. Right now I'm on the bus, testing my battery with mobile data on. I know it won't last long. What did we do to deserve it?
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Sorry to hear some are having battery issues. I'm one of the ones getting all day usage, and then some. I don't know if the info on the video link below will help, but I did setup my phone like the video describes. YMMV
https://youtu.be/rF41hBoK1aM
Samsung recently quite often began to produce models with defects, to the end did not test everything. When negative reviews are typed more, they will release a nude model, with an improved battery and less energy consumption. But most likely there will be some shortcomings in it.
My AT&T S-835 S8+ got excellent battery life - better than my S7e configured exactly the same way. I got a UK Exynos yesterday so I'll be able to compare how the two perform against each other. Most battery issues aren't h/w but user induced by s/w. Conflicting apps, things like Bixby remappers, and using older apps can cause battery drain. So can freezing and disabling some of Samsung's apps because they're co-dependent.
I get 48 hours with 5 hours of on screen time on a single charge.
Of course, I took a few steps to achieve this instead of sticking with out of the box settings.
I turned off AOD
I turned the screen brightness down to just half way.
Greenify - works just as well without root
Use Samsung's built-in management of apps, and shut off some background apps
I did purchase BK Package Disabler, for $1.50 USD it was well worth the price of admission. I don't use things like facebook - I disabled facebook, and any other bloatware apps I don't need.
Under accounts I disabled some google syncing like google fit or google calendar - I don't use those so stopping that is just one less running process in the background.
As with anything else, YMMV, but for me, this was pretty much all that was needed without hamstringing my phone. The important things like Gmail, weather, messaging all work normally
st0nez0r said:
I get 48 hours with 5 hours of on screen time on a single charge.
Of course, I took a few steps to achieve this instead of sticking with out of the box settings.
I turned off AOD
I turned the screen brightness down to just half way.
Greenify - works just as well without root
Use Samsung's built-in management of apps, and shut off some background apps
I did purchase BK Package Disabler, for $1.50 USD it was well worth the price of admission. I don't use things like facebook - I disabled facebook, and any other bloatware apps I don't need.
Under accounts I disabled some google syncing like google fit or google calendar - I don't use those so stopping that is just one less running process in the background.
As with anything else, YMMV, but for me, this was pretty much all that was needed without hamstringing my phone. The important things like Gmail, weather, messaging all work normally
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Would you mind sharing the list of apps that you disabled via BK Package Disabler? Is this app the same as the Package Disabler Pro?
I'm in the poor battery life camp but I know people who are getting great battery life.
I've just installed Greenify and i'm going to try that, my S7 edge just about managed the day and since moving to the S8 i'm changing it in the afternoon to last the night which is annoying
It's been pretty good for me. 4 Hours SOT and gets through to bedtime happily.
I got poor battery life at first too, but then I read in another thread that if you used Smart Switch during initial setup to automatically install apps, that could be the culprit. I did a factory reset and manually installed my apps the 2nd time around and BAM! Awesome battery life.
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I got poor battery life at first too, but then I read in another thread that if you used Smart Switch during initial setup to automatically install apps, that could be the culprit. I did a factory reset and manually installed my apps the 2nd time around and BAM! Awesome battery life.
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I used Smart Switch on my setup and don't have battery life issues, as I stated above, so I'm not sure if Smart Switch is the actual culprit. Like others, I think the root cause boils down to a personal mix of apps, app settings, and possibly bringing over old app settings via manual copying or via Smart switch. At this point, I think a number of us are just shooting in the dark as to the root cause.
Should start a poll which S8 version you have if you have poor battery life. Maybe there's a correlation?
For the record, I'm in the good camp: over 6 hours SOT, last charged about 30 hours ago, and sitting at 38%.
Batterylife on full brightness is on par with other phones such as the iPhone 7 Plus when used at 30-40% brightness. I'd say that the S8 has great battery life! It performs slightly better than my previous phone, the S7 Edge.
Both my S8 and S7 Edge are Exynos models. I attached screenshots of what I sometimes get for batterylife. It varies a lot depending on the severity of my snapchat addiction. I commute in total about 3-4 hours a day (~1 hour by bus, 2.5 hours by train). When I'm on the go or at work, I'm on 4G+. When I'm at home or at university I always use WiFi. While traveling daily from home to University and back, I always listen to Spotify (pre-downloaded, NOT STREAMED) and I read the entire journey (3-4 public transit trip) manga/webtoons (mainly white + colors) or I read PDF's/view powerpoints + social media.
On top of all that, I am a heavy snapchat user. On average, I'd say I use snapchat for about 30-60min a day. I get about 5-8H SOT on average over a full day on automatic brightness. AOD is turned off, the rest is UNTOUCHED. Bluetooth is on as I have it paired with my Huawei Watch. Location is at high precision (simply untouched setting). Nothing disabled either.
From my previous experience with the S7 Edge, when using a stock rom....disabling apps usually result in worse battery life hence I don't disable apps anymore. Also, I never close out used apps.
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The mAh indication at the screen on time screenshot indicates how high the display brightness has been. Mine is well above 1600mAh at merely 8H sot. This indicates a relative high brightness used. If I were to use a lower brightness while the display remains at 1600mAh consumed, my phone would have been able to achieve many hours more SOT. Do keep in mind that lowering brightness does not improve battery-life much on OLED-equipped smartphones.
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The S8 Battery Life sucks I have to charge it three times a day.
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Try limiting the use of VR porn to once a day. :laugh:
Btw, I am using the Snapdragon version I think? Cuz that is the only version available in Australia official?
Seems Exynos version performs better battery life wise?
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Batterylife on full brightness is on par with other phones such as the iPhone 7 Plus when used at 30-40% brightness. I'd say that the S8 has great battery life! It performs slightly better than my previous phone, the S7 Edge.
Both my S8 and S7 Edge are Exynos models. I attached screenshots of what I sometimes get for batterylife. It varies a lot depending on the severity of my snapchat addiction. I commute in total about 3-4 hours a day (~1 hour by bus, 2.5 hours by train). When I'm on the go or at work, I'm on 4G+. When I'm at home or at university I always use WiFi. While traveling daily from home to University and back, I always listen to Spotify (pre-downloaded, NOT STREAMED) and I read the entire journey (3-4 public transit trip) manga/webtoons (mainly white + colors) or I read PDF's/view powerpoints + social media.
On top of all that, I am a heavy snapchat user. On average, I'd say I use snapchat for about 30-60min a day. I get about 5-8H SOT on average over a full day on automatic brightness. AOD is turned off, the rest is UNTOUCHED. Bluetooth is on as I have it paired with my Huawei Watch. Location is at high precision (simply untouched setting). Nothing disabled either.
From my previous experience with the S7 Edge, when using a stock rom....disabling apps usually result in worse battery life hence I don't disable apps anymore. Also, I never close out used apps.
Keep in mind:
The mAh indication at the screen on time screenshot indicates how high the display brightness has been. Mine is well above 1600mAh at merely 8H sot. This indicates a relative high brightness used. If I were to use a lower brightness while the display remains at 1600mAh consumed, my phone would have been able to achieve many hours more SOT. Do keep in mind that lowering brightness does not improve battery-life much on OLED-equipped smartphones.
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This just looks too good to be true

Any improvements in standby battery drain with Oreo ?

Hello,
I am an LG fan (mainly due to the always-on display and the reliable tap to wake/sleep functions which I find tremendously useful) and since the G7 was launched (too big of a phone and too small battery for my needs) I decided that the G6 may actually fit my needs better due to being smaller and having a bigger battery (and the perfectly flat screen of the G6 which allows me to use an invisible tempered glass protector).
But I'm worried about battery life, especially stand-by. I need a phone that lasts 2 days with like 2-3h of SOT (I don't use the phone much but I really need it to have low standby drain). From what I read until now, the standby drain is a bit of a hit and miss with the G6...
I was wondering if the new Oreo release brings any improvements in standby drain ? Does anyone have experience with it ?
Thanks !
Idle battery drain mainly depends on the apps you use and whether they sleep ok or misbehave. I can use my G6 for 2 days...
call me pessimistic, but i never had better battery life after my phone was updated to the next release of software. It could be partially because battery life was depleted after long period of waiting for updates. I can say that with Samsung S8 and Sony and HTC10, it was definitely a case. I do not expect miracle with G6 either.
will be happy if someone can show me otherwise
Has anyone with a Korean G6 that has actually been updated to Oreo noticed any changes in either battery life or standby battery drain. Quite a few people are hoping for improvements in standby battery drain as this was a known problem with Nougat 7.0. If you could also state how old your G6 is, as some peoples phones may be over a year old and be suffering from battery degradation. My 9 month old H870DS, set up how i want it, loses 20-25 percent of battery in 8 hours overnight. This phone must be charged daily overnight or topped up regularly.
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Has anyone with a Korean G6 that has actually been updated to Oreo noticed any changes in either battery life or standby battery drain. Quite a few people are hoping for improvements in standby battery drain as this was a known problem with Nougat 7.0. If you could also state how old your G6 is, as some peoples phones may be over a year old and be suffering from battery degradation. My 9 month old H870DS, set up how i want it, loses 20-25 percent of battery in 8 hours overnight. This phone must be charged daily overnight or topped up regularly.
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You may have some bad apps. I never loose more than 3-5% over night with wifi on.
i have G600L from Korea, and i can assure that Oreo has not had any improvements on standby drain. Well the good thing is that it doesn't get any worse.
That has been my experience with other phones as well. Even if some new battery saving technique is built into the new OS, it is more than compensated for by the bloat of the new OS and updated apps, which have more services running in the background.
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call me pessimistic, but i never had better battery life after my phone was updated to the next release of software. It could be partially because battery life was depleted after long period of waiting for updates. I can say that with Samsung S8 and Sony and HTC10, it was definitely a case. I do not expect miracle with G6 either.
will be happy if someone can show me otherwise
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Idle battery drain mainly depends on the apps you use and whether they sleep ok or misbehave. I can use my G6 for 2 days...
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On average, people in this forum have been reporting idle battery drain of 2-3% per hour. However there is quite a bit of variation both day to day in the same device and between devices. You have been one of the lucky ones, most likely having nothing to do with what apps or settings you do or don't use. 2 seperate threads have been devoted to dealing with the problem, but nothing consistently helps. Most likely either a hardware issue, like the radio cycling hi or low power, or something in Nougat that LG might or might not fix (according to the post above they did not...)
Regarding "misbehaving" apps-- basically almost every useful app has that potential, since so much functionality of the smartphone revolves around the ability to multitask or run in the background. So if you want to leave the phone with only stock apps, install nothing, and block all syncing, reminders or notifications, I'm sure you can modestly reduce the idle drain, but so what? It negates the whole point of the smartphone... I remember I could get a whole week out of my Nokia 3150 candybar phone
I'd be interested to learn which apps you have and what settings you changed.
I loose about 3% over night with WiFi, BT and location = high precision. I have and use many apps (>120) but most of them are productivity tools, VPN, etc. I use only ad free and many paid apps e.g. Maildroid pro for email. Maybe ad free is one of the reasons as I'll have less background activity. On the other hand my Voip client (Grandstream Wave) is always on and I still have no idle issue...
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i have G600L from Korea, and i can assure that Oreo has not had any improvements on standby drain. Well the good thing is that it doesn't get any worse.
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Did you have problems with battery drain on Nougat? How much did you loose over night with Nougat, how much now with Oreo?
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Did you have problems with battery drain on Nougat? How much did you loose over night with Nougat, how much now with Oreo?
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I debloated pretty much every uneccessary app (i'd say 60-70 apps) when i was in nougat and so as in oreo. I've never experienced drastic battery drain on either version. I never leave wifi on when i go to bed, so I'd say I loose around 1% overnight (in nougat as well as oreo). So there u have it, don't expect to much from Oreo, you're not going to have an immense boost in terms of battery, nor in the overall perfomance of the phone. Still, I'm very with this phone
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I debloated pretty much every uneccessary app (i'd say 60-70 apps) when i was in nougat and so as in oreo. I've never experienced drastic battery drain on either version. I never leave wifi on when i go to bed, so I'd say I loose around 1% overnight (in nougat as well as oreo). So there u have it, don't expect to much from Oreo, you're not going to have an immense boost in terms of battery, nor in the overall perfomance of the phone. Still, I'm very with this phone
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1% the whole night or 1% per hour ...?
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Moldeb said:
I loose about 3% over night with WiFi, BT and location = high precision. I have and use many apps (>120) but most of them are productivity tools, VPN, etc. I use only ad free and many paid apps e.g. Maildroid pro for email. Maybe ad free is one of the reasons as I'll have less background activity. On the other hand my Voip client (Grandstream Wave) is always on and I still have no idle issue...
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Interesting that there are such huge differences between users. I do have a few ad supported apps, maybe that explains part of the difference.
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I debloated pretty much every uneccessary app (i'd say 60-70 apps) when i was in nougat and so as in oreo. I've never experienced drastic battery drain on either version. I never leave wifi on when i go to bed, so I'd say I loose around 1% overnight (in nougat as well as oreo). So there u have it, don't expect to much from Oreo, you're not going to have an immense boost in terms of battery, nor in the overall perfomance of the phone. Still, I'm very with this phone
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I loose around 5% with wifi on and have pretty good signal on wifi and mobile data. I listen to music for 30 minutes before sleeping with external bluetooth speakers. But BT is disabling automatically after that.
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1% the whole night or 1% per hour ...?
1% whole night
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Hello everyone! how do you reach certain levels of autonomy? I have a few apps on my smartphone and yet I dream of your values, how do you do it? do you have any special settings? have you run any particular command in ADB? I noticed that my phone is particularly slow on startup and once turned on (with 0 apps open) it has a use of RAM. more than 50%, is it normal?
thank you
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jshames said:
1% the whole night or 1% per hour ...?
1% whole night
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Wow, that's a huge difference from 2-3% an hour....
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screen saver is the issue
setting-->display-->screen saver. Turn that off if you are still in andriod 7.0.
I did that after saw someone's post, and my one year old LG G6 back to normal battery condition. Now I can get 20% remain by 10PM at night, after start using it since 6AM, with regular web browering, gaming and video viewing.
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pham_dang said:
Wow, that's a huge difference from 2-3% an hour....
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When I leave mine at 100% charge before going to bed at night, it's still at 100% the morning after. So, a 1% change the whole night is not bad (nor extra-ordinary).
I have my wifi and bluetooth always on. But I don't have the screen at "always on" setting. My email sync settings are on "smart" mode. Other installed apps which may run in the background are News app, GroupMe, My Data Manager, and NetGuard.
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setting-->display-->screen saver. Turn that off if you are still in andriod 7.0.
I did that after saw someone's post, and my one year old LG G6 back to normal battery condition. Now I can get 20% remain by 10PM at night, after start using it since 6AM, with regular web browering, gaming and video viewing.
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That's strange. That setting is supposed to apply only when the phone is plugged in
Percy247 said:
Has anyone with a Korean G6 that has actually been updated to Oreo noticed any changes in either battery life or standby battery drain. Quite a few people are hoping for improvements in standby battery drain as this was a known problem with Nougat 7.0. If you could also state how old your G6 is, as some peoples phones may be over a year old and be suffering from battery degradation. My 9 month old H870DS, set up how i want it, loses 20-25 percent of battery in 8 hours overnight. This phone must be charged daily overnight or topped up regularly.
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10 months old H870DS, HKG firmware, no battery degradation because with nougat I charged it at 1.5 to 2 days. 2 SIM cards standby, 4G networks, active use of the phone and I was getting around 3h SOT with a 20-24h standby. Now after Oreo I'm getting max 2.5, under 3h SOT with the same 24h standby. I did a factory reset after upgrading via LG Bridge, and did a upgrade with LG UP and kdz V20a - no change at all. I suppose that the system is draining more battery than it should under use.View attachment 4526726
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