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Xt1644 us firmware

Can some provide firmware or links to US XT1644 FIRMWARE? Thanks

Try here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-newbie-resource-thread-t3386584
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https://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=72578

DJTeeJay said:
Try here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/guide-newbie-resource-thread-t3386584
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https://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=72578
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Any idea for what device the image ATHENE_AMZ_MPJ24.139-64_65_cid50_amz.tgz on https://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=s...les&flid=72578 is meant ?
(AMZ = ?)
I am currently running ATHENE_MPJ24.139-49_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip from this source, on my XT1642 (channel reteu)

Maybe Amazon?

I appreciate everybody's help. However I can't tell if the the correct firmware listed is for US XT1644 FIRMWARE. I see I have the correct build. I have as of yet not unlocked my device. However I want to load my own backup all my images using dd command except data. Upload and post links for the United States build, as I just don't see nothing. Any help to the stock build United States build XT1644 would be great? Thanks
Also when unlocking the my device is there any issues I will run into, off the top of your heads?

Search here:
http://www.filefactory.com/folder/c6cdedc45a775d27/?sort=created&order=DESC&show=100
There are three images with xt1644 RETUS.

Bender1987 said:
Search here:
http://www.filefactory.com/folder/c6cdedc45a775d27/?sort=created&order=DESC&show=100
There are three images with xt1644 RETUS.
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Thanks guy. Looks like someone took down the files. Not sure why, any other link to XT1644_ATHENE_RETUS_MPJ24.139-48_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-XT1644_CFC.xml.zip

I've start downloading the file this morning without any problems. The FileFactory folder link is not down neither the files in it.

https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/athene/official/RETUS/
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmwar...subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-XT1644_CFC.xml.zip

9 is the latest firmware for the US model. im not sure what the very bottom one "harpia" is for?

I have bought mine unlocked and it is "retus". It has the MPJ 24.139-48 fw. Radio is M8952_70009.08.03.45R ATHENE_RETUSA_CUST.
If I check the update it says it's up-to-date.

pv979 said:
Any idea for what device the image ATHENE_AMZ_MPJ24.139-64_65_cid50_amz.tgz on https://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=s...les&flid=72578 is meant ?
(AMZ = ?)
I am currently running ATHENE_MPJ24.139-49_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip from this source, on my XT1642 (channel reteu)
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ATHENE_AMZ_MPJ24.139-64_65_cid50_amz.tgz is for the Indian variants, not the US nor European variants.
fix-this! said:
9 is the latest firmware for the US model. im not sure what the very bottom one "harpia" is for?
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Harpia is the codename for the Moto G4 Play. Athene is the G4/G4+.

Thanks everybody for helping out. Please continue to write more info about the US XT1644 as there is not alot in on this model.

SoNic67 said:
I have bought mine unlocked and it is "retus". It has the MPJ 24.139-48 fw. Radio is M8952_70009.08.03.45R ATHENE_RETUSA_CUST.
If I check the update it says it's up-to-date.
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yup but .9 is the latest. it has fixes for battery and the phone. i flashed it via fastboot on my XT6144 and it works great.

Well, the -49 (not 9) it's not to be found on Moto US website or OTA, it just appeared here like magic and the change log (supposedly) here. So I am not sure about it's provenience and that the fixes are not a placebo.
Anyway, I understand the "itch" to install it. Because I am so tempted myself
LE: Well, I did it. Flashed the MJP24.139-49 on my XT1644, I am restoring the apps now from backup.

Are these TWRP flashable or fastboot?

Yes, fastboot is avail after you unlock the bootloader on Motorola site (loosing the warranty).
I have booted into TWRP to root (SU systemless method), but didn't actually flash it (because I don't plan to switch to CM at this point).

SoNic67 said:
Yes, fastboot is avail after you unlock the bootloader on Motorola site (loosing the warranty).
I have booted into TWRP to root (SU systemless method), but didn't actually flash it (because I don't plan to switch to CM at this point).
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I'm already on CM but there's the bug preventing me from receiving calls unless I turn off LTE. I'd prefer to not lose root and don't have access to a PC, so if I can wipe and flash this in TWRP, that would be perfect.

No, you can't, you need the standard recovery to get back to stock. Then you can root as I said.
As for CM13, I had used it (beta and after that nightlies) on one of my previous devices (Asus, based on Snapdragon 615, 64 bit, 3GB RAM)... but it was too unstable to use as a daily phone. Always something to be "fixed" and very often something else was breaking. Disappointed...

Security Patch Level
Can someone who has flashed the -49 build confirm what the security patch level is? Just wondering if it's the same update India and Europe received OTA.

Moto G4 Plus's Model changed to G4,lost one imei and finger print.

I have switched to a new device and no longer use this phone but i see many others facing this issue as well so I am keeping this thread open, please do not message me regarding the solution to this issue cause all i did to get out of this mess was getting a new phone.
Hello !
Due to some error while flashing stock rom on Moto G4 Plus XT-1643 my Moto G4 Plus has changed into Moto G4 but the model no shown in the "About Phone" section is correct.
I have lost one Imei no. fingerprint option is no where sim or mobile network doesn't work other than that the phone is fully functional(WiFi,Camers,Audio etc)
There are multiple threads on the same issue but no solution is available I would be highly grateful if anyone could find out any solution to this issue.
P.S : I have tried flashing multiple ROMs available on the forum specific to XT-1643 i.e Indian Version
Also I flashed the OTA file for the Android 7.0 Soak Test due to which I cannot relock the bootloader.
I am currently on Stock Marshmallow 6.0.1 139-63 Rooted&TWRP installed
The phone is basically an iPod without fingerprint sensor

I had the same issue. I relocked the bootloader and sent to service center. They flashed the original firmware. Stock roms roaming here are not exactly stock roms.

this happened to my phone (1640 - brazilian moto g 4 plus), and I tried every single rom out there for moto g 4 plus, and it is only identified as Moto G 4, without fingerprint or any modem activity.
i still cannot recover previous bootloader, because it don't downgrade bootloader version. nothing worked for me so far.
i'll be watching this thread to see if anyone comes with any alternative.

sabithmk said:
I had the same issue. I relocked the bootloader and sent to service center. They flashed the original firmware. Stock roms roaming here are not exactly stock roms.
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Umm, so according to you too it's a software issue and not a hardware one right ?

The first thing that I do when I boot in TWRP, I do a full backup of all the phone's partitions, and save a copy on my PC, so I can restore the phone in cases like this.
Guys, maybe you need to read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617276

if you flashed android 7.0 and then downgraded to android 6.0.1 then expect some bugs because your bootloader gets updated you have to do clean flash but you cannot actually completely downgrade to android 6.0.1 after you updated to 7.0 soak test bootloader still remains updated and your phone will brick when you click update after you receive 7.0 official OTA i warned you this happened to lot of moto x users do some research before you do anything if the phone is your primary device

Soureen said:
Umm, so according to you too it's a software issue and not a hardware one right ?
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I think so. May be if we flash a wrong modem, the right one never flashes correctly. I don't know how do they managed to flash it correctly.

For me its a software issue... looks like it messed with the bootloader, and since you cannot rollback to an older bootloader, the phone works like an iPod Touch. haha
I hope that when Motorola releases the final 7.0 version for 1640, I'll be able to flash again the right bootloader and that will fix the phone.
SoNic67 said:
The first thing that I do when I boot in TWRP, I do a full backup of all the phone's partitions, and save a copy on my PC, so I can restore the phone in cases like this.
Guys, maybe you need to read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617276
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I did a full flash of an older 6.0.1 ROM, and it still doesn't work. Since the only thing that I couldn't flash is the bootloader, and the phone identify itself as Moto G 4 (and not Moto G 4 Plus) my guess is that the problem is with the bootloader.
I guess i'll have to wait for the official 7.0 for my specific phone (1640) to fully replace this broken bootloader.

Yeah, that's why I didn't upgrade to the N yet, I was sure that the bootloader will be different.
I also have saved the partitions with Partitions Backup & Restore app, after rooting.
Did you try the ElementalX kernel?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/development/kernel-elementalx-g4-0-01-t3424836

I was also having same issue,got my bootloader locked and went to service center and they replaced the motherboard for free????

Lucky you

Has anyone found a solution to get the plus (fingerprint) back to the phone?

Nope funny thing no one knows anything ??
I am waiting for the Android 7.0 official update so that I can relock my bootloader and send it for service.

That's a bummer but there might be some solution. The phone version number shouldn't be that hard to find if you'd knew witch file that flashes it.
How do you do these backups for they don't look at all as twrp backups so I guess twrp is second best to something. But what?
What is the different with 7.0 coming up? Can't you just relock a backup?

Soureen said:
Nope funny thing no one knows anything ??
I am waiting for the Android 7.0 official update so that I can relock my bootloader and send it for service.
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I have the same issue, I have seen people with XT1643 having athene_f in build fingerprint but I have only athene. Which one is correct, could this be the issue?

Managed to solve the issue at least to get the signal. This is what I have done
- Restore my first TWRP backup.
- Booted directly into bootloader and NOT system, flashed modem for the build.
- Rebooted and I am getting the signal!!!

m.swastik said:
Managed to solve the issue at least to get the signal. This is what I have done
- Restore my first TWRP backup.
- Booted directly into bootloader and NOT system, flashed modem for the build.
- Rebooted and I am getting the signal!!!
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Radio is working after TWRP backup + modem flash. Still fingerprint is not working and it is pointing out as athene not as athene_f
(bootloader) ro.build.fingerprint[0]: motorola/athene/athene:6.0.1/MPJ24
(bootloader) ro.build.fingerprint[1]: .139-63/64:user/release-keys
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l2o88j said:
Radio is working after TWRP backup + modem flash. Still fingerprint is not working and it is pointing out as athene not as athene_f
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I have spent 1 whole week to get the signal working, at least be glad that you can now use your phone and press thanks if I helped. Regarding athene in build fingerprint you can easily change that in build.prop but it won't help. I think fingerprint service is disabled because ROM thinks that our phone is G4 and not G4 plus. I have tried few things to enable it but not getting it to work, will update if any of my experiment is successful.

m.swastik said:
I have spent 1 whole week to get the signal working, at least be glad that you can now use your phone and press thanks if I helped. Regarding athene in build fingerprint you can easily change that in build.prop but it won't help. I think fingerprint service is disabled because ROM thinks that our phone is G4 and not G4 plus. I have tried few things to enable it but not getting it to work, will update if any of my experiment is successful.
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I found this trick early and I am using it now. I thought you cracked the last part (fingerprint sensor) which my post was about. I think that the issue is with gpt bin as I tried different bootloader versions along with all possible combinations. Gud to see someone else is working on the same. Will update if found any.

find the correct firmware for the device and flash it else it would lead to such errors

N Firmware & modem without going back to stock firmware?

Hi guys,
I switched from Stock MM directy to CM 14.1.
Is there a way for me to get N Firmware & modem without going back to stock?
Thanks in advance

a little push

Das_OSi said:
Hi guys,
I switched from Stock MM directy to CM 14.1.
Is there a way for me to get N Firmware & modem without going back to stock?
Thanks in advance
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If you read the threads for updating to N soak test you will see that it is not possible as you need to sideload the N soak test with official recovery. Only with soak test you receive all firmware files which isn't possible with flashing modem only. And please don't push.

The "official" that rolls out now in India is the same version that pas posted here on Dec 11:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/captured-ota-nougat-ota-moto-g4-plus-t3517059

Hello again,
haven't been here for a while...
I'm still facing problems with 4G and the camera, because I'm still not on N Firmware & modem :angel:
Has something changed about this process?
Do I still need to go back to stock or is there an easier way now?
Huge thanks in advance

Das_OSi said:
Hello again,
haven't been here for a while...
I'm still facing problems with 4G and the camera, because I'm still not on N Firmware & modem :angel:
Has something changed about this process?
Do I still need to go back to stock or is there an easier way now?
Huge thanks in advance
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Don't know about your device type but yes, there are fastboot images as well as detailed guides available at guides section like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/android-7-0-install-nougat-official-t3531612

strongst said:
Don't know about your device type but yes, there are fastboot images as well as detailed guides available at guides section like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/android-7-0-install-nougat-official-t3531612
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Oh, totally forgot to mention it.
According to the sticker on the back of it:
Model: XT1622
Type: M1B89
bought on Amazon.de, they sold it as an "Lenovo Moto G4 Smartphone (14 cm (5,5 Zoll) 16GB, Android) schwarz"

Das_OSi said:
Oh, totally forgot to mention it.
According to the sticker on the back of it:
Model: XT1622
Type: M1B89
bought on Amazon.de, they sold it as an "Lenovo Moto G4 Smartphone (14 cm (5,5 Zoll) 16GB, Android) schwarz"
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You don't have a g4 plus. So AFAIK there's no fastboot image out for xt1622 yet. And this forum is for g4 plus, not g4. You should read and ask in g4 forum, but I can't find images there.

Das_OSi said:
Oh, totally forgot to mention it.
According to the sticker on the back of it:
Model: XT1622
Type: M1B89
bought on Amazon.de, they sold it as an "Lenovo Moto G4 Smartphone (14 cm (5,5 Zoll) 16GB, Android) schwarz"
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Provided your device isn't the one with Amazon adverts on, the fast boot ROM linked by strongst appears to flash onto XT1622 devices. Bear in mind this is a stock ROM and flashing it will revert you back to stock recovery and system. There was a TWRP image of the baseband modem and firmware, though that got taken down as it seemed not to work well for US devices. However, in my opinion, flashing the whole stock ROM should be more stable.

strongst said:
You don't have a g4 plus. So AFAIK there's no fastboot image out for xt1622 yet. And this forum is for g4 plus, not g4. You should read and ask in g4 forum, but I can't find images there.
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It must be an Plus, because I can only flash "athene" builds via TWRP.
TWRP won't let me flash G4 builds.
echo92 said:
Provided your device isn't the one with Amazon adverts on, the fast boot ROM linked by strongst appears to flash onto XT1622 devices. Bear in mind this is a stock ROM and flashing it will revert you back to stock recovery and system. There was a TWRP image of the baseband modem and firmware, though that got taken down as it seemed not to work well for US devices. However, in my opinion, flashing the whole stock ROM should be more stable.
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No, there were no Amazon adverts on mine.
This one here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/development/fxz-athene-twrp-flashable-fastboots-t3562147
?

Das_OSi said:
It must be an Plus, because I can only flash "athene" builds via TWRP.
TWRP won't let me flash G4 builds.
No, there were no Amazon adverts on mine.
This one here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/development/fxz-athene-twrp-flashable-fastboots-t3562147
?
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Yeah, that was the thread I was referring to. The 93-14 fastboot ROM has been reported to flash on xt1622 devices okay https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369/post70843323 this will also give you the same build as has been deployed over the EU and globally. Still though, have a read of the thread before flashing.

echo92 said:
Yeah, that was the thread I was referring to. The 93-14 fastboot ROM has been reported to flash on xt1622 devices okay https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369/post70843323 this will also give you the same build as has been deployed over the EU and globally. Still though, have a read of the thread before flashing.
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Thanks a lot, I would probably never have found this thread without you.
Just doing an "fastboot flash modem NON-HLOS.bin" won't be enough, right? :fingers-crossed:

I can confirm the method mentioned by echo92 above. Works perfect on my XT1622. If you have sucessfully installed the 93-14 Stock N build, you could upgrade to the latest update 93-14-4, provided in this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...ial-moto-g4-plus-ota-update-build-t3584982...
1.page....thanks to lexie90

Worked like a charm
Now I'm on
[ROM][OFFICIAL][7.1.1][XT16xx]LineageOS 14.1[athene][Moto G4/Moto G4 Plus]
and handover from WiFi to LTE finally works, also my camera is working again
Thanks a lot guys :victory:

TWRP doesn't flash stock. You need to do it in fastboot mode.
To find out what device you have, while in fastboot, type this in cmd window:
Code:
fastboot getvar all

SoNic67 said:
TWRP doesn't flash stock. You need to do it in fastboot mode.
To find out what device you have, while in fastboot, type this in cmd window:
Code:
fastboot getvar all
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No,
with the help of you guys I managed to flash the latest stock (using fastboot), and now I'm back on CM again :highfive:

help

Why athene f instead of athene?

Athene_F is for the Moto G4 Plus (athene is the code name, f for fingerprint sensor, I imagine), whereas athene is for the G4 models.

echo92 said:
Athene_F is for the Moto G4 Plus (athene is the code name, f for fingerprint sensor, I imagine), whereas athene is for the G4 models.
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Which Rom is correct for moto g4 plus xt 1642 dual?

szymon1515 said:
Which Rom is correct for moto g4 plus xt 1642 dual?
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What do you want, Nougat or Marshmallow?
The install scripts in the updates should detect whether you are athene_f or athene (unless you flashed the wrong firmware in the past, which based on your earlier posts, may has happened).

echo92 said:
What do you want, Nougat or Marshmallow?
The install scripts in the updates should detect whether you are athene_f or athene (unless you flashed the wrong firmware in the past, which based on your earlier posts, may has happened).
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W Polsce Me shows that I have g4 and I have g4 plus I had to get angry Rom to win

szymon1515 said:
W Polsce Me shows that I have g4 and I have g4 plus I had to get angry Rom to win
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Me shows that I have g4 and I have g4 plus I had to get angry Rom to win

szymon1515 said:
Me shows that I have g4 and I have g4 plus I had to get angry Rom to win
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I don't understand what you mean? What do you mean by angry ROM?

echo92 said:
I don't understand what you mean? What do you mean by angry ROM?
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Is it possible that I have a bad base band? I'm from Poland

szymon1515 said:
Is it possible that I have a bad base band? I'm from Poland
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That's a Marshmallow baseband, but it's reading as .32U, which may indicate flashing the wrong Marshmallow firmware at some point.
Which stock firmwares have you flashed previously, what builds and for what regions? I recall you flashed some builds suggested to you in the other thread.

echo92 said:
That's a Marshmallow baseband, but it's reading as .32U, which may indicate flashing the wrong Marshmallow firmware at some point.
Which stock firmwares have you flashed previously, what builds and for what regions? I recall you flashed some builds suggested to you in the other thread.
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Who is the system to upload now?

Referring to your other thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/help-t3586344/page6
you were on a marshmallow baseband ending with 62.u. Now you have 32.u...so you must have upgraded your firmware somehow in the last few days.
The baseband version must end with .R
Have you ever tried one of the suggestions in the above thread??
There you were given the fitting stock firmware and the right procedures to flash it.
My advice: go back to the above thread, read, try to understand and try again.

In addition to bullfinch's reply, I'd suggest going back to the stock (i.e. supplied by Motorola) ROMs, as flashing custom ROMs will just confuse matters.
If you've tried the suggestions in the thread above (your original thread), you may wish to have a look into flashing this ROM here https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G4 (Plus)/Stock/XT1642/ It's a stock ROM for XT1642, and looks to be the 139-48 build, which may give you the correct baseband. I've not tried it though, and there's still a chance you may still have the incorrect baseband afterwards.
As always, do a complete flash of a stock ROM if you can via fastboot (you could follow the instructions here, but using the XT1642 ROM https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1643-updated-signed-t3460695), and back up your data.
If you do still get the incorrect baseband, as I suggested a few times, you may have to get your device serviced (contact Motorola in Poland for service centres), which may charge you a fee.

I'm still willing to help. That assumes, that you give answers to questions, made by echo92 before.
And my question is: Is your device detected by your pc if connected in fastbootmode?

bullfinch110 said:
I'm still willing to help. That assumes, that you give answers to questions, made by echo92 before.
And my question is: Is your device detected by your pc if connected in fastbootmode?
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Yes

szymon1515 said:
Yes
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So you can try flashing the right firmware (given by echo92) following the steps in the link. Or you try again RSD lite with this firmware (you remember).

echo92 said:
In addition to bullfinch's reply, I'd suggest going back to the stock (i.e. supplied by Motorola) ROMs, as flashing custom ROMs will just confuse matters.
If you've tried the suggestions in the thread above (your original thread), you may wish to have a look into flashing this ROM here https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G4 (Plus)/Stock/XT1642/ It's a stock ROM for XT1642, and looks to be the 139-48 build, which may give you the correct baseband. I've not tried it though, and there's still a chance you may still have the incorrect baseband afterwards.
As always, do a complete flash of a stock ROM if you can via fastboot (you could follow the instructions here, but using the XT1642 ROM https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1643-updated-signed-t3460695), and back up your data.
If you do still get the incorrect baseband, as I suggested a few times, you may have to get your device serviced (contact Motorola in Poland for service centres), which may charge you a fee.
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Now I have M8952_70009.08.03.45u ATHENE_EMEA_DSDS_CUST

Can you check your phonesettings, if there is an OTA firmware update available? Still irritated by the "u" at the end of your baseband. Could yu make a screenshot of your phone status (buildnr, baseband, android versionn)

bullfinch110 said:
Can you check your phonesettings, if there is an OTA firmware update available? Still irritated by the "u" at the end of your baseband. Could yu make a screenshot of your phone status (buildnr, baseband, android versionn)
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Ok?

szymon1515 said:
Ok?
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Yes. :good:
How did you do? Flash via fastboot, RSD lite or OTA Update?

Korean G4 F500 S/L/K with Stock Nougat 7.0 Help & Tips 2019!

Hello LG fans,
There is an old thread with a similar title, but since it is inactive I started this one. For certain reasons I got this G4 phone only few days ago. The model number on the box and under-battery tag as well as in settings showed F500 (just F500 without any suffix S, L, or K). It came with Android 5.1, and everything was working well. Online search showed that F500X phones can be officially updated to Nougat 7.0, but the phone OTA update said no update was available.
As per LG website, I installed LG Bridge to get the updates. It identified the phone as F500K and found two updates. First it installed 6.0 Marshmallow and then 7.0 Nougat software version F500K30c. Also the model no changed to F500K in settings. I think this probably means it is is a refurbished phone
The Installation was successful, but it installed a Korea Telecom version with some Korean stuff. I uninstalled or disabled all the Korean bloat I could without root, but there are still a few things remaining, and some Korean language here and there.
In general, I’m quite satisfied with the phone. The only thing I wish to get rid of is the KT Wifi manager app which is all in Korean, and I don’t know what it does or which settings to select. It is a system app, and I can’t uninstall or disable it, but my wifi and data networks seem to be working fine, so no complaints. I’ve seen several people here and elsewhere complaining about network issues, boot loops and bricks, but so far I haven’t experienced any. I hope it stays this way :fingers-crossed:
I was wondering about the other variants F500S and F500L, do they also have Korean bloat and is it more or less than F500K? I have read somewhere that these three firmware variants can be interchangeably installed. Is this the case, and if so, is it advisable to install another variant? I have been reading about this phone, but this is my first time to use an LG phones, and I have no experience with their software and tools, so any help, ideas or suggestions will be highly appreciated.
Thanks

Gold Mix said:
Hello LG fans,
There is an old thread with a similar title, but since it is inactive I started this one. For certain reasons I got this G4 phone only few days ago. The model number on the box and under-battery tag as well as in settings showed F500 (just F500 without any suffix S, L, or K). It came with Android 5.1, and everything was working well. Online search showed that F500X phones can be officially updated to Nougat 7.0, but the phone OTA update said no update was available.
As per LG website, I installed LG Bridge to get the updates. It identified the phone as F500K and found two updates. First it installed 6.0 Marshmallow and then 7.0 Nougat software version F500K30c. Also the model no changed to F500K in settings. I think this probably means it is is a refurbished phone
The Installation was successful, but it installed a Korea Telecom version with some Korean stuff. I uninstalled or disabled all the Korean bloat I could without root, but there are still a few things remaining, and some Korean language here and there.
In general, I’m quite satisfied with the phone. The only thing I wish to get rid of is the KT Wifi manager app which is all in Korean, and I don’t know what it does or which settings to select. It is a system app, and I can’t uninstall or disable it, but my wifi and data networks seem to be working fine, so no complaints. I’ve seen several people here and elsewhere complaining about network issues, boot loops and bricks, but so far I haven’t experienced any. I hope it stays this way :fingers-crossed:
I was wondering about the other variants F500S and F500L, do they also have Korean bloat and is it more or less than F500K? I have read somewhere that these three firmware variants can be interchangeably installed. Is this the case, and if so, is it advisable to install another variant? I have been reading about this phone, but this is my first time to use an LG phones, and I have no experience with their software and tools, so any help, ideas or suggestions will be highly appreciated.
Thanks
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You could
downgrade to MM,
backup with SALT (CRUCIAL important),
unlock by UsU ,
extract with SALT: system ,modem and boot partitions from a f500 kdz,
root and debloat or (if you like to) install a custom ROM
Check the UsU and SALT threads (you can find both in my signature)
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steadfasterX said:
You could
downgrade to MM,
backup with SALT (CRUCIAL important),
unlock by UsU ,
extract with SALT: system ,modem and boot partitions from a f500 kdz,
root and debloat or (if you like to) install a custom ROM
Check the UsU and SALT threads (you can find both in my signature)
Sent from my OnePlus 6T using XDA Labs
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Thank you @steadfasterX for your reply,
It's quite an honor the Guru himself was the first to reply to my post. I have seen many of your posts and replies in the forum before, and now looked at some of the stuff in your signature. Pretty impressive work. I definitely need to spend some time learning about them particularly SALT and FWUL, as I have also started learning and using Linux lately. How come FWUL is not shown on distrowatch?
For the time being, I was thinking to stick to stock Nougat 7.0 as it's a fairly recent OS, and the phone is fine even with the remaining little Korean stuff. My main dissatisfaction really is with the mysterious kt wifi manager app which is all in Korean and has some settings which I don't know what they are. If just replacing the current Nougat 7.0 with another variant S or L is actually possible, and these variants don't have a similar app, this would be great.
I have been searching for information about these S/L/K firmware variant differences but couldn't find much. I hope other S & L phone owners could tell us about their phones. The only thing I could find so far is that each is for a different carrier in Korea, and that they can be interchangeably installed as per a Reddit post. I don't know how reliable this information is!
From a purely technical perspective for G4 F500 , is it possible to flash another F500 variant using LGUP, or is this something that shouldn't be done? I have seen many people getting in trouble for flashing wrong firmware. If this is safe to do, do I need to do any preparation work like downgrading to MM first, and should this be done as an upgrade or a refurbish? For what it's worth, my ARB value is 0.
Thanks

steadfasterX said:
You could
downgrade to MM,
backup with SALT (CRUCIAL important),
unlock by UsU ,
extract with SALT: system ,modem and boot partitions from a f500 kdz,
root and debloat or (if you like to) install a custom ROM
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Hi Sfx,
1. to downgrade to MM... use uppercut, right? I'm using latest 20u for F500l is OK for UsU?
2. after backing up with SALT, can I revert back anytime after unlock and with new custom ROM?
3. after rooting, do I install twrp and load custom ROM? and can I extract 30b Nougat's modem from KDZ to use with the custom ROM?
thanks so much in advance for answering...:angel:

Gold Mix said:
How come FWUL is not shown on distrowatch?
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Because they are ignorant and/or just arrogant enough to ignore my requests. I even offered to pay advertisements as this should be (according to their website) a way to get listed instant. but nothing. Even not on the waiting list..
Gold Mix said:
From a purely technical perspective for G4 F500 , is it possible to flash another F500 variant using LGUP, or is this something that shouldn't be done?
I have seen many people getting in trouble for flashing wrong firmware. If this is safe to do, do I need to do any preparation work like downgrading to MM first, and should this be done as an upgrade or a refurbish?
For what it's worth, my ARB value is 0.
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ok so one thing first. the most important one: Ensure you keep your ARB at 0. This is crucial important. So never ever flash anything (including QFIL restore files!!!) where you are not 10000% sure it wouldn't increase your ARB.
If you are about to flash a KDZ then check that file with SALT first (simply press extract and it will display the ARB). If you flash anything else.. well ensure that the files offered have that information listed and hope and pray its not wrong (e.g. there are QFIL files around which are labeled for a ARB 0 model but contain ARB2 files..). Never heard about a wrong labeled KDZ file but who knows.
The second important thing is (maybe its even the first): before doing anything, do a full backup with SALT (basic is fine) and (!!) move that to a secure place! (I saw so many ppl who lost their backup through several ways).
So when going on through the UsU process you will have 2 SALT backups: the one before downgrading to MM and another one after you downgraded to MM (tbh the more important one). If you can keep them both.
so about flashing other variants: yes it IS technically possible to even flash e.g. h815 ROMs to a F500 and so converting it that way! but never try that with h811 KDZs or others..
anyways yea you could flash other F500 variants without fear (just carrier bloat is different) as long as you follow the above advises.
cooledi said:
Hi Sfx,
1. to downgrade to MM... use uppercut, right? I'm using latest 20u for F500l is OK for UsU?
2. after backing up with SALT, can I revert back anytime after unlock and with new custom ROM?
3. after rooting, do I install twrp and load custom ROM? and can I extract 30b Nougat's modem from KDZ to use with the custom ROM?
thanks so much in advance for answering...:angel:
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1. I dunno the latest MM F500 version but "20u" sounds good. Can't help in the downgrade process but there are plenty of guides here in the G4 forums.
2. dunno that you mean here.. but if you wanna know if you can stay on STOCK after UsU'ing yea sure. flashing UsU does not require to go for a custom ROM. It just gives you the freedom to do so.
3. if you follow the UsU guide you will have TWRP already and that's the place where you install a custom ROM if you like. Sure extract the 30b modem and flash it in fastboot should work fine (after UsU).
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steadfasterX said:
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1. I dunno the latest MM F500 version but "20u" sounds good. Can't help in the downgrade process but there are plenty of guides here in the G4 forums.
2. dunno that you mean here.. but if you wanna know if you can stay on STOCK after UsU'ing yea sure. flashing UsU does not require to go for a custom ROM. It just gives you the freedom to do so.
3. if you follow the UsU guide you will have TWRP already and that's the place where you install a custom ROM if you like. Sure extract the 30b modem and flash it in fastboot should work fine (after UsU).
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Thanks sfx, I'm now on MM and ready to get SALTed I want to flash AEX v6.7 But there are two offerings H811 and H815, and my F500L in SALT say GPT compatibility is H811 /ARB0, so do I flash H811 version of AEX?? If so, is there a H811_UsU_baseband_flash-in-twrp I need to flash as well? thz

cooledi said:
Thanks sfx, I'm now on MM and ready to get SALTed I want to flash AEX v6.7 But there are two offerings H811 and H815, and my F500L in SALT say GPT compatibility is H811 /ARB0, so do I flash H811 version of AEX?? If so, is there a H811_UsU_baseband_flash-in-twrp I need to flash as well? thz
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if you would flash h811 on yours you will increase your ARB so do NOT flash that.
Use a h815 based ROM even when SALT compat shows different. your partition layout is somehow weird..
for non-UsU ROMs flash the f500(!!) baseband package once
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steadfasterX said:
You could
downgrade to MM,
backup with SALT (CRUCIAL important),
unlock by UsU ,
->> extract with SALT: system ,modem and " boot partitions from a f500 kdz, "
root and debloat or (if you like to) install a custom ROM
Sent from my OnePlus 6T using XDA Labs
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If I wanna go back to stock, what boot partitions should I extract from the f500 kdz image?
so namely I need to flash;
system.img
modem.img
do I need modemst1 & modemst2.img? what else do I need to flash?
thx!

cooledi said:
If I wanna go back to stock, what boot partitions should I extract from the f500 kdz image?
so namely I need to flash;
system.img
modem.img
do I need modemst1 & modemst2.img? what else do I need to flash?
thx!
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system, boot, modem
nothing else

Pls i had f500s please can someone help withbsome detail process of rooting this phone.i am currently on stock rom android 5.1.its my first time usong lg g4 .i used sumsang and i had no problems around sumsung but lg g4 is a whole new level. I dont understand the UsU terms and SALT.pls help i need root pls.

please i need you help.
Pls i had f500s .i am currently on stock rom android 5.1.its my first time using lg g4 .i used sumsang and i had no problems around sumsung but lg g4 is a whole new level. I dont understand the UsU terms and SALT.pls help i need root pls