Is there an embargo on reviews? If not when can we expect some to roll out? - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

I'm contemplating getting the regular s8 or s8+ depending on the battery. The s8 is what I want but curious if the extra 500mah is offset by the large display on the s8+

Since they were announce on the 29th, reviewers generally test the new phones out for around 2 weeks, sometimes longer in order to get a real world view of how the phone performs. I'd say we'll start seeing some mid-late next week.

Yep, Stay Tuned...Around 3rd week of April!

Closest thing we probably have right now is The YouTube Tech Guy's one week later with the S8+. He hits pretty much all the points, goes in-depth in multiple videos on almost every aspect of the phone.
EDIT: Except for Bixby :^)

s8 & s8+ youtube battery review here: https://youtu.be/X7P5xqKsce4

Weird. Looks like XEETECHCARE has 5h 50m for the standard S8 and over 7h on the S8+, however The YouTube Tech Guy has 5h 50m on the S8+.

Tsukihi said:
Weird. Looks like XEETECHCARE has 5h 50m for the standard S8 and over 7h on the S8+, however The YouTube Tech Guy has 5h 50m on the S8+.
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Mixed results on the same phone are not uncommon. You can take two of the same model phone and restore them both from the same backup and use them both with the same routine and get different results. Just as two of the same PC processors can have different overclocking results, smartphone SoCs and batteries are just as random when it comes to performance. The components are so tiny that any little imperfection in manufacturing can impact performance slightly, so no two will be 100% identical.
Usage must be considered. Everyone claims their smartphone usage is 'normal' yet no two people use their phones the same way.
There are also external factors, such as reception quality. Where I work, the reception is terrible. I have multiple accounts on sync, location services on 'accurate' and weather widgets and the works. On weekdays when I'm working, battery life is much worse than when I am at home or out around town on the weekends.
There are just too many variables to get a definitive number. The best gauge will be an overall average from regular users with real-world usage. And we won't have that info until the phones have been out for a while.
Whatever the case, I can't see the S8/S8+ having "bad" battery life. Samsung can't afford a mistake like that right now.

Sevael said:
Mixed results on the same phone are not uncommon. You can take two of the same model phone and restore them both from the same backup and use them both with the same routine and get different results. Just as two of the same PC processors can have different overclocking results, smartphone SoCs and batteries are just as random when it comes to performance. The components are so tiny that any little imperfection in manufacturing can impact performance slightly, so no two will be 100% identical.
Usage must be considered. Everyone claims their smartphone usage is 'normal' yet no two people use their phones the same way.
There are also external factors, such as reception quality. Where I work, the reception is terrible. I have multiple accounts on sync, location services on 'accurate' and weather widgets and the works. On weekdays when I'm working, battery life is much worse than when I am at home or out around town on the weekends.
There are just too many variables to get a definitive number. The best gauge will be an overall average from regular users with real-world usage. And we won't have that info until the phones have been out for a while.
Whatever the case, I can't see the S8/S8+ having "bad" battery life. Samsung can't afford a mistake like that right now.
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I mean, 5h 50m SoT is pretty much the standard if not a bit above average. At the very least, we know that Tech Guy watched YouTube videos and played games for over an hour each, as well as split screen. Another factor might be SD vs Exynos, but the difference shouldn't be too drastic.

Tsukihi said:
I mean, 5h 50m SoT is pretty much the standard if not a bit above average. At the very least, we know that Tech Guy watched YouTube videos and played games for over an hour each, as well as split screen. Another factor might be SD vs Exynos, but the difference shouldn't be too drastic.
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XEETECHCARE has the Exynos version, youtube tech guy, i think, lives in the US so he would have the Snapdragon 835 version.

Tsukihi said:
Weird. Looks like XEETECHCARE has 5h 50m for the standard S8 and over 7h on the S8+, however The YouTube Tech Guy has 5h 50m on the S8+.
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Youtube Tech Guy does it with an S8 and not an S8+. I went to his YouTube channel and all I see is for the S8 and not the S8+. So if they both averages 5h 50m that isn't too bad for the S8. I haven't seen anyone sporting times for the S8+ other than XEETECHCARE so far.

Tidbits said:
Youtube Tech Guy does it with an S8 and not an S8+. I went to his YouTube channel and all I see is for the S8 and not the S8+. So if they both averages 5h 50m that isn't too bad for the S8. I haven't seen anyone sporting times for the S8+ other than XEETECHCARE so far.
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Tech guy actually specifies it's on the + and it's in the video title..

tracerit said:
I'm contemplating getting the regular s8 or s8+ depending on the battery. The s8 is what I want but curious if the extra 500mah is offset by the large display on the s8+
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Bigger screen = more power use = bigger battery
I think really you answered your own question haha

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Tech guy actually specifies it's on the + and it's in the video title..
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I saw it, and from what I can tell it is going to be hard to say as two different people have different "normal" usage.

Tidbits said:
I saw it, and from what I can tell it is going to be hard to say as two different people have different "normal" usage.
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Only time can tell, really. Personally I'm waiting for a review from Flossy or MKBHD.

Tsukihi said:
Only time can tell, really. Personally I'm waiting for a review from Flossy or MKBHD.
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Normally for me if MKBHD says something like 6-7 hours I generally get about that. I am going to assume we have similar habits. I will be happy with that personally.

Tidbits said:
Youtube Tech Guy does it with an S8 and not an S8+. I went to his YouTube channel and all I see is for the S8 and not the S8+. So if they both averages 5h 50m that isn't too bad for the S8. I haven't seen anyone sporting times for the S8+ other than XEETECHCARE so far.
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My problem with the S8; it more comparable to the S7 Edge than the S8+ is to the S7 edge and with that in mind, it doesn't seem like there is much of an improvement at all, in fact, it's more like a downgrade in hardware given the difference in the battery... this perspective is what led me to deciding on the S8+
If the S8 had the same capacity as the S8+ i would have choosen the S8, i prefer the higher ppi, plan to do lots of vr but i dont know that ill notice that much of a difference reduced ppi

nope. most reviewers got their devices already. Most like to make sure that they give everyone a good response before posting it.

mweinbach said:
nope. most reviewers got their devices already. Most like to make sure that they give everyone a good response before posting it.
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there's an embargo. nobody is allowed to talk about and show the US SD model as firmware is not final. all videos you see on YouTube are Exynos models (some are even not the retail hardware) that run preliminary firmware.
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mannequin said:
there's an embargo. nobody is allowed to talk about and show the US SD model as firmware is not final. all videos you see on YouTube are Exynos models (some are even not the retail hardware) that run preliminary firmware.
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not true. this video from everything apple pro, he has a SM-G950U model. That is Snapdragon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzLUP7dT1Ec

mweinbach said:
not true. this video from everything apple pro, he has a SM-G950U model. That is Snapdragon.
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i see that he is in Canada so he probably doesn't care (or actually violating something but it's not a review by all means. not to mention cringeworthy biased towards Apple comments ). that's the only SD video out right now i guess.
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Complete Battery Life Test of GSII by GSMArena

If already posted, please ignore and delete.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/our-samsun...e-test-is-complete-check-out-how-it-did-test/
Brief:
We conclude with the most important test – the overall usage benchmark. The Galaxy S II turned out quite efficient and helped it get an endurance rating of 40h. This suggests that if you’ll need to charge the smartphone every 40 hours if you do one hour of 3G calls, video playback and web browsing each per day.
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True, you have seen us put the Samsung Galaxy S II battery thought its paces before, but we thought you might be interested to see how it does over our new testing course. So here goes the Samsung Galaxy S II battery life test, revisited.
The Android smartphone comes with a 1650 mAh battery and a pretty large 4.3″ screen. Judging by those specs alone, we probably shouldn’t expect the Galaxy S II to top our charts, but the power-efficient Super AMOLED Plus might help it put in a decent performance. Plus, its latest Android update is said to improve battery performance, so who knows.
We were hoping the Samsung Galaxy S II would do well in our first test, 3G talk time, as it’s all about battery capacity and screen size doesn’t come into the equation. The former Samsung flagship didn’t disappoint, going on for 8:35h before it switched off.
The second trial was the browsing test. We are getting lots of questions about this one so here are the exact specs of the test. We use an automated script, which reloads a page every ten seconds. There are no flash elements on the web pages, so the playing field is even.
The brightness of the phones’ displays is set to 50% and we use a Wireless N connection, with the router placed a few meters away from the tested phones, so we are getting full bars on every one of them.
With the predominantly white web pages not being particularly kind to the AMOLED screens, we didn’t expect miracles here, but the Galaxy S II did decently nonetheless. It survived the kind of intensive browsing that we described above for 4:24 hours, which is much better than what we saw from its bigger brother, the Galaxy Note.
The Samsung Galaxy S II maintained its decent performance in the video playback test as well. It took exactly 8 hours of SD video playback with the screen brightness set to 50% and all radios switched off to take its battery from full to 10% (this test ends at that point).
That score might rank the Samsung Galaxy S II a mere forth out of five tested smartphones, but you can see that it’s much closer to the one before it than to the one behind it.
We conclude with the most important test – the overall usage benchmark. The Galaxy S II turned out quite efficient and helped it get an endurance rating of 40h. This suggests that if you’ll need to charge the smartphone every 40 hours if you do one hour of 3G calls, video playback and web browsing each per day.
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This is a great find!
I think its very much in line with the battery life on my phone.
I'm most surprised about the video playback results which I thought the s2 would beat out the iphone but I think overall the results are all in the same ballpark.
They haven't said what firmware version they are using. That's a very important bit of information to leave out I would have thought.
Intratech said:
They haven't said what firmware version they are using. That's a very important bit of information to leave out I would have thought.
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specific firmware/rom would have been nice but they did say the latest update so i guess it is 2.3.5 based on that comment like you say though defo would have been nice for the specific firmware
Would be intersting if they tested gameplay too. Mine craps out after an hour and half, so the only time I can really play a higher end game is while it's plugged in.
Would be nice if they had listed the firmware. But from the Galaxy Note test a few days ago, I knew the S II would suck at browsing battery life no matter what ROM it's in there.
Been having second thoughts about the Galaxy Tab 7.7 every since due to it having an super amoled plus screen.
Intratech said:
They haven't said what firmware version they are using. That's a very important bit of information to leave out I would have thought.
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What I found important is, there is no mention of the web browser they've used. Opera or Stock or else! That was a must mention.

Reviews Master Thread

Let's collect all reviews here. Will be updating as I find (/you post) new reviews.
Reviews:
CNet
Android Authority
Verge
Android Central
Android Central Updated
Engadget
GSM Arena
Phone Arena
Droid Life
Ars Technicia
Android Police
Pocket Now
Mashable
Slash Gear
Tech Radar
Sunlight Visibility:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zqnosPs1_zo
YOUTUBE:
MKBHD Review - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTE337ITnAc&feature=youtu.be
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A very good review from iverge!!
http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/4/5778556/lg-g3-review
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WHY???
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review
After just seven days it's clear to us that the G3 is at least a good phone, and LG's best yet. And as we count down to the global launch, we'll soon see whether it can become a great one.
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Nobody can beat engadget review. Best review ever.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/05/lg-g3-review/
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g3-review-1086.php
Disappointing display quality, battery and performance.
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Disappointing display quality, battery and performance.
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Display? It can't be worse than G2's, it's next gen WQHD AH-IPS matrix
Batter? Disappointing? Where? You need 18hours per day of surfing or what? 7hrs is pretty enough
Are you looking at numbers (resolution) only? Look at the blacks, look at the contrast... it's bad. Plus it doesn't allow full brightness when phone gets warm.
And yes 6h of web surfing at 50% brightness sucks, Z2 or G2 give twice of that, around 12h.
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Are you looking at numbers (resolution) only? Look at the blacks, look at the contrast... it's bad. Plus it doesn't allow full brightness when phone gets warm.
And yes 6h of web surfing at 50% brightness sucks, Z2 or G2 give twice of that, around 12h.
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blacks are better on the G3, both at 50% and 100%
whites aren't as good though
*Emix* said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g3-review-1086.php
Disappointing display quality, battery and performance.
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Great review. Really in depth and raises concerns about going with this phone. They should've stuck with FullHD...
Kawaisa said:
blacks are better on the G3, both at 50% and 100%
whites aren't as good though
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You interpret it wrong from gsmarena. Lower value means deeper black. G3 Black level is worse than G2
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*Emix* said:
Are you looking at numbers (resolution) only? Look at the blacks, look at the contrast... it's bad. Plus it doesn't allow full brightness when phone gets warm.
And yes 6h of web surfing at 50% brightness sucks, Z2 or G2 give twice of that, around 12h.
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Kawaisa said:
blacks are better on the G3, both at 50% and 100%
whites aren't as good though
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supremekizzle said:
Great review. Really in depth and raises concerns about going with this phone. They should've stuck with FullHD...
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dragon135 said:
You interpret it wrong from gsmarena. Lower value means deeper black. G3 Black level is worse than G2
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This is clearly a pathetic review. They say everything against it on the particular page and on the last page they say everything positive. And those smart people made the review with the preproduction unit too! A phone with a tallk time of 25hours can never have 6:30 Minutes of web browsing. Also, what disappointment in benchamarks? Seriously? Then Nexus 5 is the worst phone ever on performance..
Best is go and have a look at it yourself. Samsung paid them sooo much just to get the name down.. They sold more than 100000 Units in the first 5 days which was 3 times more than the S5 so obviously Samsung is jealous. I have written a mail to them asking about each and every aspect. Hope they reply soon.:good:
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This is clearly a pathetic review. They say everything against it on the particular page and on the last page they say everything positive. And those smart people made the review with the preproduction unit too! A phone with a tallk time of 25hours can never have 6:30 Minutes of web browsing. Also, what disappointment in benchamarks? Seriously? Then Nexus 5 is the worst phone ever on performance..
Best is go and have a look at it yourself. Samsung paid them sooo much just to get the name down.. They sold more than 100000 Units in the first 5 days which was 3 times more than the S5 so obviously Samsung is jealous. I have written a mail to them asking about each and every aspect. Hope they reply soon.:good:
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Well the numbers and measurement don't lie. We already know the benchmark number will not be as good as s5, m8 due to QHD resolution given they use same cpu as S5 witb FHD resolution.
browsing make use of QHD, graphic, processing, javascript, and everything, while talk time is not (just black screen).
Screen measurement is disapointing already compared to even G2. It means the panel quality is not as good.
They praised it in the end because from normal user it really is good lhone witb good design. LG tried hard.
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Jishnu Sur™ said:
This is clearly a pathetic review. They say everything against it on the particular page and on the last page they say everything positive. And those smart people made the review with the preproduction unit too! A phone with a tallk time of 25hours can never have 6:30 Minutes of web browsing. Also, what disappointment in benchamarks? Seriously? Then Nexus 5 is the worst phone ever on performance..
Best is go and have a look at it yourself. Samsung paid them sooo much just to get the name down.. They sold more than 100000 Units in the first 5 days which was 3 times more than the S5 so obviously Samsung is jealous. I have written a mail to them asking about each and every aspect. Hope they reply soon.:good:
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I'm sure there is some wild conspiracy as to why GSM Arena lied in their review. Surely Samsung paid them off! Speaking of Samsung and sales...there was a huge no sale in South Korea the same time the S5 launched, which explains the low initial numbers. This has been reported by news outlets. I'm an LG fan and wanted the G3 to be so much more, but they were too quick to market with the QHD screen and should've waited for better battery tech or processor optimization. I'm buying the G2 over this phone, because it's been proven to be an amazing device, even months later. Don't let your fanboyism blind you...
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Well the numbers and measurement don't lie. We already know the benchmark number will not be as good as s5, m8 due to QHD resolution given they use same cpu as S5 witb FHD resolution.
browsing make use of QHD, graphic, processing, javascript, and everything, while talk time is not (just black screen).
Screen measurement is disapointing already compared to even G2. It means the panel quality is not as good.
They praised it in the end because from normal user it really is good lhone witb good design. LG tried hard.
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Exactly! Numbers certainly don't lie...
I kinda wish anandtech do all flagship phones reviews, they seem to be the only one out there that actually understand the stuffs inside modern cell phones :-|
nap007 said:
I kinda wish anandtech do all flagship phones reviews, they seem to be the only one out there that actually understand the stuffs inside modern cell phones :-|
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Anandtech are buyed peoples. They said 7hour web browsing for nexus 4 where mine only could do 3hours and 30min.
Dont trust them they are buyed peoples

Battery Life Test

First test is online and it doesn't look too pleasing. I'm guessing the 1440p panel really does zap the life out of this thing.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/droid-turbo-battery-life,news-19846.html
I don't know how bright 150 nits are, but that basically means you can easily get ~9.5 hours of SoT, right?
I had a day where my Razr Maxx was off the charger for 16 hours, with over 8 hours of SoT and over 1GB of data transferred by my reddit app (it was a very lazy Sunday). If I can get back to that sort of battery life, it would be awesome. I don't need 2 days of power use, I just need enough for a long day with heavy use.
in all phones defense, not even one phone in the world lasts more than 12 hours with a full bright screen and 4G LTE enabled, no matter what you do, thats heavy use (IMHO)
Jaocagomez said:
in all phones defense, not even one phone in the world lasts more than 12 hours with a full bright screen and 4G LTE enabled, no matter what you do, thats heavy use (IMHO)
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Most phone's full brightness is upwards of 500nits. This test was only at 150nits which is pretty low on the brightness spectrum.
pjd2011 said:
Most phone's full brightness is upwards of 500nits. This test was only at 150nits which is pretty low on the brightness spectrum.
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oh sh- really? something its not right, then, wait... its without turning the screen off, then?
I'm gonna wait for a second review that list seems a bit suspect to me. Never seen the OnePlus that much higher than everything else on other roundups before.
Erasmus354 said:
I'm gonna wait for a second review that list seems a bit suspect to me. Never seen the OnePlus that much higher than everything else on other roundups before.
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exactly. that site seems to be off by quite a bit in several of the ratings on battery life.
Several shortcomings in their test. Here are a few I thought of immediately.
1) different cell carriers / frequencies. Some may have additional compression/caching.
2) different signal strengths. What if that cell/data signal was LTE at -60dB, but the Verizon switched occasionally from LTE to 3G and was at -100dB
3) testing group of dynamic web sites. "100 public sites" (content changes very quickly-multiple times a day. Sometimes more graphics intense and with auto playing video to cache/buffer)
4) were they tested at the same time? Same day? Weeks apart?
5) same web browser on all phones? same version? same phone cache settings? same plugin versions?
I'm more interested in how it performs over the Droid Maxx. I don't want to lose battery life, which I fear I will due to the processor/gpu usage in order to drive the higher resolution. I have read that the display backlight is relatively constant in terms of power consumption.
I ordered a light meter from amazon. I'll set them to the same brightness and play video files from a private server: first over VZW LTE, then after recharging from the device's own memory in airplane mode.
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First test is online and it doesn't look too pleasing. I'm guessing the 1440p panel really does zap the life out of this thing.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/droid-turbo-battery-life,news-19846.html
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That test is bull****.
HTC One M8 gets 9:52 hours. In what world is that?!
And other numbers from that test are just crazy and nonsense
My m8 gets half of that on Verizon
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The test doesn't line up with reality, I wouldn't expect the numbers to match any other site, but I would expect the overall hierarchy to match other sites reviews.
The IP6 is too low, The M8 is too high, The OPO is laughably too high. The Note 4 is lower than it should be...
Just to clarify - let's make this the battery life thread. I for one don't think this first test is anything official by any means but as more reviews come out let's talk about them here!
Jr6278 said:
My m8 gets half of that on Verizon
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Seems like thats the case with a lot of phones on verizon (iphone, moto x, lg g3)...
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Several shortcomings in their test. Here are a few I thought of immediately.
1) different cell carriers / frequencies. Some may have additional compression/caching.
2) different signal strengths. What if that cell/data signal was LTE at -60dB, but the Verizon switched occasionally from LTE to 3G and was at -100dB
3) testing group of dynamic web sites. "100 public sites" (content changes very quickly-multiple times a day. Sometimes more graphics intense and with auto playing video to cache/buffer)
4) were they tested at the same time? Same day? Weeks apart?
5) same web browser on all phones? same version? same phone cache settings? same plugin versions?
I'm more interested in how it performs over the Droid Maxx. I don't want to lose battery life, which I fear I will due to the processor/gpu usage in order to drive the higher resolution. I have read that the display backlight is relatively constant in terms of power consumption.
I ordered a light meter from amazon. I'll set them to the same brightness and play video files from a private server: first over VZW LTE, then after recharging from the device's own memory in airplane mode.
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You're right, a lot of these 'tests' are so skewed and have no basis. The test they did proves nothing, absolutely nothing. Now, if you were to take a say, S5, M8, Turbo and use all of them on the same network, and same usage (web, video, calls, messaging and do exactly the same on all the devices) is the only way to really test the battery. Using one device on one network and one on another is absurd. I.e., when T-Mobile initially launched LTE it wasn't a full launch and the signal was weaker, causing the phone to try and find a stronger signal or struggle to keep the existing LTE signal, which results in a significant battery drain. Resulting in me switching my phone back to 4G for the time being. And then the network speeds, the longer the phones takes to load something also means the longer the screen will be lit resulting in yet again more battery drain. Those are just some factors that haven't even scratched the surface behind how the battery can be drained. These people need to stop testing phones without sufficient background data. Taking their site off my list of reliable sources.
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You're right, a lot of these 'tests' are so skewed and have no basis. The test they did proves nothing, absolutely nothing. Now, if you were to take a say, S5, M8, Turbo and use all of them on the same network, and same usage (web, video, calls, messaging and do exactly the same on all the devices) is the only way to really test the battery. Using one device on one network and one on another is absurd. I.e., when T-Mobile initially launched LTE it wasn't a full launch and the signal was weaker, causing the phone to try and find a stronger signal or struggle to keep the existing LTE signal, which results in a significant battery drain. Resulting in me switching my phone back to 4G for the time being. And then the network speeds, the longer the phones takes to load something also means the longer the screen will be lit resulting in yet again more battery drain. Those are just some factors that haven't even scratched the surface behind how the battery can be drained. These people need to stop testing phones without sufficient background data. Taking their site off my list of reliable sources.
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The peoblem is, the droid turbo is only available on verizon as of now. So theres no method to get different results (better or worse) on another carrier. I would hope theyd repeat tge test a few times to verify, but the result is what it is. Its perfectly fair to compare to othwr devices on other networks. Because if someone is looking for the phone with the best battery life they might go to an at&t htc one. Its not htc's fault that the turbo is limited to verizon.
And verizon claims the best coverage in the U.S. so unless they were doing the test in one of the few black holes where verizon doesnt get a good sig al compared to at&t, its not a skewed result.
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The peoblem is, the droid turbo is only available on verizon as of now. So theres no method to get different results (better or worse) on another carrier. I would hope theyd repeat tge test a few times to verify, but the result is what it is. Its perfectly fair to compare to othwr devices on other networks. Because if someone is looking for the phone with the best battery life they might go to an at&t htc one. Its not htc's fault that the turbo is limited to verizon.
And verizon claims the best coverage in the U.S. so unless they were doing the test in one of the few black holes where verizon doesnt get a good sig al compared to at&t, its not a skewed result.
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Then that means their results are inconclusive. But yes right now only Verizon sells it but it doesn't mean you can't use it on tmobile or att and test it... The phone is GSM unlocked and will work on tmobile's lte.... If you think their tests prove something that is the equivalent to comparing a 4 cylinder vehicle to a 6 cylinder, while driving the 6 cylinder conservatively and then pedal to the metal on the 4 all the time. In that example it's like how a prius would get lower mpg vs a m3 if you drove the prius aggressively and the m3 conservatively, and that test has been done but just for sh*ts and giggles. They're also comparing devices with different hardware on different networks. I guess it's dependent on how thorough you want to be, I don't buy any of the results they posted.
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Then that means their results are inconclusive. But yes right now only Verizon sells it but it doesn't mean you can't use it on tmobile or att and test it... The phone is GSM unlocked and will work on tmobile's lte.... If you think their tests prove something that is the equivalent to comparing a 4 cylinder vehicle to a 6 cylinder, while driving the 6 cylinder conservatively and then pedal to the metal on the 4 all the time. In that example it's like how a prius would get lower mpg vs a m3 if you drove the prius aggressively and the m3 conservatively, and that test has been done but just for sh*ts and giggles. They're also comparing devices with different hardware on different networks. I guess it's dependent on how thorough you want to be, I don't buy any of the results they posted.
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I dont see how your analogy compares to this at all. they didn't have the phones set any differently. They were all set to the same brightness and used on their respective networks. How else would you have liked them to have done this test?
if your indications are that because they are on different networks that's affecting the battery life, then a more appropriate analogy would be comparing 0 to 60of an m3 and s4 with the m3 being up at 10,000 feet elevation and the s for being at sea level. Being naturally aspirated engines struggle more at high altitudes that would be an unfair comparison
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I dont see how your analogy compares to this at all. they didn't have the phones set any differently. They were all set to the same brightness and used on their respective networks. How else would you have liked them to have done this test?
if your indications are that because they are on different networks that's affecting the battery life, then a more appropriate analogy would be comparing 0 to 60of an m3 and s4 with the m3 being up at 10,000 feet elevation and the s for being at sea level. Being naturally aspirated engines struggle more at high altitudes that would be an unfair comparison
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Yeah that's the main problem, if the test involves constant data pulling over the network, that becomes a huge factor of the test.
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Yeah that's the main problem, if the test involves constant data pulling over the network, that becomes a huge factor of the test.
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But if all of them are doing that then whhere is the discrepancy, ya know?
And its really not a matter of competing against other phones. If thats what the result js for the droid turbo on verizons nerwork then it is what it is. Doesnt matter if the M8 on at&t or iphone on t-mobile get better or worse time. Theyre not taking power away feom the droid turbo.
Id love to see more independent tests though.
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I dont see how your analogy compares to this at all. they didn't have the phones set any differently. They were all set to the same brightness and used on their respective networks. How else would you have liked them to have done this test?
if your indications are that because they are on different networks that's affecting the battery life, then a more appropriate analogy would be comparing 0 to 60of an m3 and s4 with the m3 being up at 10,000 feet elevation and the s for being at sea level. Being naturally aspirated engines struggle more at high altitudes that would be an unfair comparison
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I think that's where your confusion lies (my observation), there is no control (factor) group to compare it to. Of the 7 they tested, if they tested them all on VZW and then tested the same devices going through the same usage on AT&T then you can compare the devices on their respective networks. There's too many factors to account for the way they tested it. Another factor is the phone is....a day old? The battery hasn't even settled yet. The other devices they're comparing it to range from 6 months to half a month old. A very good comparison would be to test the, M8, OnePlus One, S5, and perhaps a G3 since they all use the same processor, and obviously other hardware is different but at least they have something in common. Now I'm not saying you can't compare an iPhone's battery life to an Android's either, so don't get the wrong idea there. It's just there are too many factors to offer conclusive results from how they way they 'tested.' But if you feel they are good enough for you then I'm not going to try and persuade you otherwise, I'm simply pointing out that their test would be insufficient for my standards.
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But if all of them are doing that then whhere is the discrepancy, ya know?
And its really not a matter of competing against other phones. If thats what the result js for the droid turbo on verizons nerwork then it is what it is. Doesnt matter if the M8 on at&t or iphone on t-mobile get better or worse time. Theyre not taking power away feom the droid turbo.
Id love to see more independent tests though.
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As I previous stated above, I'd probably take the results from fellow XDA members over their data. I'd give it a few days to a week and check out the reports from other users after their battery has settled down as I don't remember any phone I've had in the past that was showing great battery life within the first few days of usage. There's so much going on with the phone that it's constantly working to get settled in, software and hardware. It's also like flashing a ROM on your phone, the battery life is never at it's best within the first few days after flashing, same principle with a new device that is...again, a day old.

LG G5 reviews

the reviews are starting to come :
Digital Trends
Forbes
Trusted Reviews
GSM Arena
Seems like the "reviews" are playing it safe at this point. No one seems to be blown away by the phone just yet.
Mine is on pre order so I guess I will know soon. Despite having returned both G4 and V10 I'll keep an open mind.
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I had a feeling battery life wouldn't be too great.
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I had a feeling battery life wouldn't be too great.
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It blows mate, it's like an iphone.
Actually, review are bad....
I don't know why they take the time to test the S7, particulary with the camera. With the LG G5 review, We see so many bloom of samples even with daylight and very few low light samples... When we know the quality of the LG G4 and we read than the LG G is a little better, the reviews don't seems to push the quality of the camera.
Maybe LG don't have give enough money for the reviews^^
For the battery, it's not a problem with QuickCharge 3 or the removable battery or an support battery or .... When i see in the reviews the lack of wireless charging, what's the problem ? We lost more energy to charge an smartphone than charge it himself. Maybe in ten years, wireless could be gone, but if you have a family with all the devices who use actually, the wireless charging, welcome to your bill of electricity !
Finally, a good thing : the speaker for the voice communication. With all my Samsung devices, i find the sound is bad, with Motorola, it's excellent and with LG also.
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the reviews are starting to come :
Digital Trends
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GSM Arena
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All video reviews filtered by recent:
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=lg+g5+review&sp=EgIIAg%3D%3D
AlwaysQuestion said:
Actually, review are bad....
I don't know why they take the time to test the S7, particulary with the camera. With the LG G5 review, We see so many bloom of samples even with daylight and very few low light samples... When we know the quality of the LG G4 and we read than the LG G is a little better, the reviews don't seems to push the quality of the camera.
Maybe LG don't have give enough money for the reviews^^
For the battery, it's not a problem with QuickCharge 3 or the removable battery or an support battery or .... When i see in the reviews the lack of wireless charging, what's the problem ? We lost more energy to charge an smartphone than charge it himself. Maybe in ten years, wireless could be gone, but if you have a family with all the devices who use actually, the wireless charging, welcome to your bill of electricity !
Finally, a good thing : the speaker for the voice communication. With all my Samsung devices, i find the sound is bad, with Motorola, it's excellent and with LG also.
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all these reviews use a Pre production unit with non final software... so we all wait for full reviews after availability
iMaterial said:
It blows mate, it's like an iphone.
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I prefer Android.Let's stick to the pursuit of better android
Until you've used the phone 3 weeks all day every day that is the only review you can trust. I can't wait to write my G5 review. My S7 Edge review goes live tomorrow. And just 10 mins after writing the Review my S7 Edge ground to a halt. Deleting photos in the gallery quickly and the phone can't keep up.
So after I thought the S7 Edge was really good I'm now in a dilemma. Probably a bug.
With all the early previews they give you an idea but not true reality. I'm very excited over the G5.
Damn, battery life sucks and the screen sucks too, what are those, this Delta E is highhh 5.6 average up to more than 10 and this low brightness.
FAILED.
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It blows mate, it's like an iphone.
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But how can you possibly say that?
And that other guy that says the battery life sucks. You both telepathic? From the reviews I've watched or read they've said they were pleasantly surprised, again that's on a pre production unit
sstanton86 said:
But how can you possibly say that?
And that other guy that says the battery life sucks. You both telepathic? From the reviews I've watched or read they've said they were pleasantly surprised, again that's on a pre production unit
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I'm quite surprise too, it's not comparable to S7 (according to GSMArena results) but still is better than both G4 and V10
A little bit better for the battery life, a little bit. Pre unit or not, it's always the same, when they say it's pre unit it's the final software and hardware... and means it sucks.
I must have watched a million reviews online about mobiles and ever since the "smartphone" came out all everyone says is battery life could be better. I'm personally not too bothered, plus I'd rather have poor battery life on a phone which I can change the battery on. Either I've preordered mine and can't wait for its arrival.
I read up on this phone daily, and though all the previews/reviews make note of the fact they are using a pre-release unit, most seem to agree battery life isn't up to par and the module clip/battery is not easy to remove/replace. I've read/seen previews where they almost thought they were going to break something, and that is not good.
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I read up on this phone daily, and though all the previews/reviews make note of the fact they are using a pre-release unit, most seem to agree battery life isn't up to par and the module clip/battery is not easy to remove/replace. I've read/seen previews where they almost thought they were going to break something, and that is not good.
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All because it's something new in my opinion. Of course you have the thought in the back of your mind about breaking it. No other phone has ever let you rip apart the bottom half lol.
But always a double edge sword, if it were to easily slide out, ppl would complain about build quality and the potential of the module slipping out on basic usage. The community's will always have their own thoughts. And I agree with the fellow a couple post ahead of me, literally every single smartphone that has ever been announced the people said they wanted longer battery life lmao. If I get an hour less standby time than my buddy with an S7. Who cares. I save 2 hours of charge time by swapping out another battery in 30 seconds or less. Im a huge phone buff and I have to say I'm more than ecstatic about this device.
"LG's G5 Smartphone Is A Giant Leap In Photographic Capabilities Over The G4"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/patrick...raphic-capabilities-over-the-g4/#ec273e833d00
Looks better in automatic mode maybe, but giant leap ?
DoKaTSuYa said:
"LG's G5 Smartphone Is A Giant Leap In Photographic Capabilities Over The G4"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/patrick...raphic-capabilities-over-the-g4/#ec273e833d00
Looks better in automatic mode maybe, but giant leap ?
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Giant leap is a bit of an exaggeration, but their examples were quite good. That again was also a pre-production sample they were using. I personally am very much looking forward to the camera on this phone.
MobileSyrup's review:
https://youtu.be/_7B8PGyrLR0
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I'm quite surprise too, it's not comparable to S7 (according to GSMArena results) but still is better than both G4 and V10
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http://www.greenbot.com/article/3045340/android/lg-g5-benchmarks.html
Battery performance the same so as usual take all reviews with a pinch of salt. Some reviews claim S7 last a little ,onger but then mention the swappable battery on the G5 so usual a draw in comparison.

Samsung finally getting the Bad Recognition they Deserve!

The Exynos version of the Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra is being hammered with complaints!
https://www.techspot.com/news/84872-exynos-version-galaxy-s20-ultra-hammered-complaints.html
Maybe Samsung should eat the loss before it gets worse? Replace all EXYNOS phones with Snapdragons? This turning into another Note7 Scandal!
The Exynos used in the global variant of the device lags behind the market competition.
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Maybe Samsung should eat the loss before it gets worse? Replace all EXYNOS phones with Snapdragons? This turning into another Note7 Scandal!
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LOL no way Samsung will do that. It's an inferior chip 4 sure, so don't buy it at all or return it. Samsung will automatically understand.
I love how people are completely losing their minds over a 5-10% performance and battery life difference. Are you earning your income from "professional" gaming on your phone or something? No? Didn't think so. Don't worry about it. Exynos models are ridiculously cheap, take better pictures, and are rootable unlike most Snapdragon models ??????
TheNetwork said:
I love how people are completely losing their minds over a 5-10% performance and battery life difference. Are you earning your income from "professional" gaming on your phone or something? No? Didn't think so. Don't worry about it. Exynos models are ridiculously cheap, take better pictures, and are rootable unlike most Snapdragon models ??????
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who gives a **** about root nowadays and why shouldnt we as you say "lose our minds" we paid ****ing good money for this and yea we been cheated and samsung know it latest update killed fast charge by 30 mins why should we suffer coz of their mistakes iv not seen one snapdragon complaint yet 1000s of exynos now you tell me is that right ?
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I love how people are completely losing their minds over a 5-10% performance and battery life difference. Are you earning your income from "professional" gaming on your phone or something? No? Didn't think so. Don't worry about it. Exynos models are ridiculously cheap, take better pictures, and are rootable unlike most Snapdragon models
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I happen live in the U.S. so I have the Superior Snapdragon chipset. Currently no issues with phone. I just feel bad for people that got shafted with Samsung's piece of S**t chipset.
TheNetwork said:
I love how people are completely losing their minds over a 5-10% performance and battery life difference. Are you earning your income from "professional" gaming on your phone or something? No? Didn't think so. Don't worry about it. Exynos models are ridiculously cheap, take better pictures, and are rootable unlike most Snapdragon models
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I don’t play games and have not rooted for over 5 years ... but after 2 weeks using an Exynos S20 Ultra it’s the best Samsung phone I have ever owned.
Picture quality is excellent
I have never noticed a heat problem
I get 2 days battery life between charges
Yes, in benchmarks Exynos 990 is not as fast as SD865 but it’s more than fast enough
Also did anyone else read that Google are working with Samsung on custom CPU for future Pixels?
Manufacturers are fed up getting ripped off with high prices of Snapdragon CPUs
Better get used to non SD CPU in phones there are gonna be a lot more of them in the future!
One thing i will say tho, if Samsung saves money using Exynos chips in non US handsets they should pass the saving to loyal customers via a $100 lower price in the stores for Exynos variants (Or free Buds+ bundles etc)
dezborders said:
+1
I don’t play games and have not rooted for over 5 years ... but after 2 weeks using an Exynos S20 Ultra it’s the best Samsung phone I have ever owned.
Picture quality is excellent
I have never noticed a heat problem
I get 2 days battery life between charges
Yes, in benchmarks Exynos 990 is not as fast as SD865 but it’s more than fast enough
Also did anyone else read that Google are working with Samsung on custom CPU for future Pixels?
Manufacturers are fed up getting ripped off with high prices of Snapdragon CPUs
Better get used to non SD CPU in phones there are gonna be a lot more of them in the future!
One thing i will say tho, if Samsung saves money using Exynos chips in non US handsets they should pass the saving buck to loyal customers via a $100 lower price in the stores for Exynos variants (Or free Buds+ bundles etc)
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You do get free buds+ and Samsung care+ (free cracked screen replacement) in here.
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You do get free buds+ and Samsung care+ (free cracked screen replacement) in here.
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That is true, but due to covid19 situation, we are still waiting for buds+ to be delivered.
Back on topic, after last update with april patch, exynos works great!
djoxie said:
That is true, but due to covid19 situation, we are still waiting for buds+ to be delivered.
Back on topic, after last update with april patch, exynos works great!
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Not a problem in UK ... submitted claim 10 days ago and received my Buds+ today
i did the last update but still im having the issues im passed my return window due to the covid situation in my countries any suggestion !!>>? i called them and explained the situation they offered me repair but we all know its a chip issue so what should i do ?? any suggestions?
If I'm being completely honest. I dont game on my phone - i have my 2020 iPad Pro for that. I have heavily debloated the sh!t thats not needed on my S20 Ultra and my battery easily lasts me an entire day with around 30% remaining when i head to bed. The performance aspect means fcuk all to me because i dont use my phone to run resource intensive apps - hardcore apps like games, video editing etc. My battery life was absolute garbage when i first got the phone but over time, it's gotten a lot better. I'm not going to sit down and cry over a 5-10% difference between the SD and 990, theirs more important things going on in the world at the moment.
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If I'm being completely honest. I dont game on my phone - i have my 2020 iPad Pro for that. I have heavily debloated the sh!t thats not needed on my S20 Ultra and my battery easily lasts me an entire day with around 30% remaining when i head to bed. The performance aspect means fcuk all to me because i dont use my phone to run resource intensive apps - hardcore apps like games, video editing etc. My battery life was absolute garbage when i first got the phone but over time, it's gotten a lot better. I'm not going to sit down and cry over a 5-10% difference between the SD and 990, theirs more important things going on in the world at the moment.
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As much as I agree with you on the triviality of the matter I do understand how people could be pissed off at paying the same price for an inferior product
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Fact is, people with exynos in their region are getting scammed. People with SnapDragon don't exist in a parallel universe! There is the same device in existence that's better then the other! Why? That's not ok.
Samsung should get sued for this scam. We should make a class action.
Still no news over the 512gb model of the s20 ultra , will it ever turn up , and with which chipset , cant find any news on that phone even with samsung still holding my 1500
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Still no news over the 512gb model of the s20 ultra , will it ever turn up , and with which chipset , cant find any news on that phone even with samsung still holding my 1500
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I have the 512gb and battery life is shocking
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Fact is, people with exynos in their region are getting scammed. People with SnapDragon don't exist in a parallel universe! There is the same device in existence that's better then the other! Why? That's not ok.
Samsung should get sued for this scam. We should make a class action.
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i belive so too but not many people do
the issue is not everyone is a heavy user but the device faces issues even with medium use like video chat heating to 45C this isnt okay
i never regreted a purchase from samsung
i really want them to do something about it
i called their call center n all they offered was repairs n if the issue isnt fixed a replacement but we all know its a chipset issue so same **** again
at this point i dont know what to do
thing is i do notice that it overheats and throttles in gaming. i'd ordinarily be pissed right off. but i got the 16gb/512gb model (with warranty) for like £850 second hand as new. If i paid £1499 for it I would be seriously pissed off.

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