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Sony screwed up the Xperia Z

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f31ojOyC7FA
Check out the video.
Lower benchmark score than the Galaxy S3 and battery drops from 97% to 93% in 5 minutes of use.
Not impressed Sony.

ssj_jaypee said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f31ojOyC7FA
Check out the video.
Lower benchmark score than the Galaxy S3 and battery drops from 97% to 93% in 5 minutes of use.
Not impressed Sony.
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Isn't that a test unit though? Plus benchmarks don't really mean that much, it's the actual user experience which is important I think

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Isn't that a test unit though?
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What would the difference be?
The phone is coming out next month. Production has started already.
I don't blame the hardware though. The S4 Pro is powerful.
Most likely Sony screwed up the software.....
Also battery needed to be bigger.
Why in the love of god didn't Sony follow Samsung and use a bigger battery like the Note 2? :crying:

ssj_jaypee said:
What would the difference be?
The phone is coming out next month. Production has started already.
I don't blame the hardware though. The S4 Pro is powerful.
Most likely Sony screwed up the software.....
Also battery needed to be bigger.
Why in the love of god didn't Sony follow Samsung and use a bigger battery like the Note 2? :crying:
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I see what you mean, the actual production devices could ship with different software I don't know? I agree about the battery though we'll just have to wait for a full review I guess

Engadget got the ZL at 13,589

It's an S4 Pro with quad-core krait. Just like the Droid DNA and Nexus 4. Stop worrying about benchmarks, especially when it hasn't even been released. It will perform like every other S4 Pro phone, give or take a small margin.
The battery complaint is even more ridiculous. So many phones get updates on launch day fixing battery issues and they keep tweaking it with each update for months after release.
The biggest disappointment is the display. It looks exactly like a bigger version of the Xperia S/Ion/T with all the problems. Washed out look with poor viewing angles and contrast. Sony likes to turn up the brightness to mask the poor contrast. It's 2013. HTC doesn't even make displays and their SuperLCD IPS display is far and ahead the best. IPS displays on LG are also good as well as the one on the Lumia 920. Sony displays continue to disappoint.

katamari201 said:
It's an S4 Pro with quad-core krait. Just like the Droid DNA and Nexus 4. Stop worrying about benchmarks, especially when it hasn't even been released. It will perform like every other S4 Pro phone, give or take a small margin.
The battery complaint is even more ridiculous. So many phones get updates on launch day fixing battery issues and they keep tweaking it with each update for months after release.
The biggest disappointment is the display. It looks exactly like a bigger version of the Xperia S/Ion/T with all the problems. Washed out look with poor viewing angles and contrast. Sony likes to turn up the brightness to mask the poor contrast. It's 2013. HTC doesn't even make displays and their SuperLCD IPS display is far and ahead the best. IPS displays on LG are also good as well as the one on the Lumia 920. Sony displays continue to disappoint.
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The Ion has a pretty good display, dunno what you're talking about, many people agree with me. Probably one of the best out there.
I got the S which seems to have a pretty nice one as well, maybe almost the same as the Ion. The only washed out display that Sony produced this year on a high-end device is the one on the T. Over-saturated colors don't necessarily mean better displays.

The ION has the best display. Take a look at the thread in the Xperia T forums that compares the ION, T, and S in terms of display.

Nepythys said:
The Ion has a pretty good display, dunno what you're talking about, many people agree with me. Probably one of the best out there.
I got the S which seems to have a pretty nice one as well, maybe almost the same as the Ion. The only washed out display that Sony produced this year on a high-end device is the one on the T. Over-saturated colors don't necessarily mean better displays.
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I never said anything about oversaturation being better. You are making assumptions that I prefer the blown out colors of AMOLED or the extra warmth of the SuperLCD. I mentioned the LG display looks better than the Sony one, and it is even LESS saturated than the Sony display. The point is Sony does not have a single IPS display on their phones. It is 100% agreed upon that IPS is the pinnacle of LCD technology and has been for years. Professional monitors from NEC, Dell, and HP use IPS panels. The colors and contrast do not shift when viewing off axis, and that is important for an even image, even when looking dead on. LG and HTC have been putting IPS displays on their phones for years now. Sony has no excuse. If you live in a bubble of Sony phones and never look at any other smartphone, I'm sure the display looks great. But there are plenty of reviews stating the obvious. The poor viewing angles are becoming increasingly unacceptable in a premium smartphone. The flaws are even more apparent on a small mobile display that you move around and use at different angles. It's not some nice monitor you prop in front of your desk and sit perfectly in front of.

Still way prettier and with far better UI than TouchWiz.

scores slower because of the Full HD screen

Final results are close to 20.000 in AnTuTu...
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its a prototype so definitely the software isnt optimized yet, wait for the final release and then start whining.

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scores slower because of the Full HD screen
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That's probably the issue. This thing rendering everything in fullHD, the S3 does 720p only, so of course it will be "faster" in benchmarks.

guilhermedsx said:
That's probably the issue. This thing rendering everything in fullHD, the S3 does 720p only, so of course it will be "faster" in benchmarks.
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I've seen droid DNA got 19k in antutu with that resolution..
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Yeah, well the Z can score higher than that -- and with XDA here, it's bound to go higher than 22.000
I don't know what Sony's game is, but why the onscreen buttons? That only takes away from the display! For some reason, only the GNex looks good with those, maybe because it doesn't have any extra buttons?
Anyways, I still think the best buttons were on the HTC Desire. You couldn't miss those.

About what I expected and not low at all for a stock device. You have to keep in mind most of the top scores on Antutu are with custom kernels and roms. As for battery I am not worried about it as it has not really been a issue with the newer Sony stuff.

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Yeah, well the Z can score higher than that -- and with XDA here, it's bound to go higher than 22.000
I don't know what Sony's game is, but why the onscreen buttons? That only takes away from the display! For some reason, only the GNex looks good with those, maybe because it doesn't have any extra buttons?
Anyways, I still think the best buttons were on the HTC Desire. You couldn't miss those.
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I think it's better. When not needed, they will hide themselves and show the full screen.
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Felimenta97 said:
I think it's better. When not needed, they will hide themselves and show the full screen.
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Agreed. And I'll be hiding the on screen buttons completely, and using gestures instead, meaning that I get the complete 5" !!
Very glad Sony did this, was waiting for someone to stop making redundant buttons.
Now if only they actually gave it a removable battery, then I'd be sold 100% (mostly talking about the ZL, I can understand the Z)

ssj_jaypee said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f31ojOyC7FA
Check out the video.
Lower benchmark score than the Galaxy S3 and battery drops from 97% to 93% in 5 minutes of use.
Not impressed Sony.
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Ummm I should point out the S3 gets around the 9000 range in Antutu and the Nexus 4 which runs the same processor as the Z gets around 16,000 which about in line with that benchmark so... wtf are you talking about. Also *GASP* a phone lose battery while doing intensive benchmarks I am soooo shocked. Obvious troll post.

GSMArena review is out

Of all the sites, I find GSMArenas review process to be one of the most thorough & reputable
Here's their take on the Z1
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1-review-987.php
It's all pretty good, right until you come to the frankly bewildering browser & video playing battery life.
Hopefully it's something that can be addressed in firmware as the talktime & standby time are pretty good.

techguyone said:
Of all the sites, I find GSMArenas review process to be one of the most thorough & reputable
Here's their take on the Z1
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1-review-987.php
It's all pretty good, right until you come to the frankly bewildering browser & video playing battery life.
Hopefully it's something that can be addressed in firmware as the talktime & standby time are pretty good.
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Note, they call out the lack of HDR for images. HDR isn't an option in Superior Auto, or when you go manual and bump to full resolution; however, if you drop the resolution in manual to 8MP, HDR is indeed there. With how fast the images take, I'm surprised they didn't leave HDR as an option for the 20MP resolution, but hey, they probably have their reasons.

There are 2 HDR modes as well. Just shows how unthorough the review was.
I dont understand why companies think it is ok to release buggy phones. The Z1 really needs an update, espcially on the camera. Battery life is excellent

Generaly I like the test of GSM Arena but not this one, because they fail on the 2 major point of the phone, the screen and the camera.
For the camera they said that they're not impressed. Yes but they couldn't make a good with the default of the lens of the pre-unit they had. So they can't juge this point.
The second one is the screen. It's maybe not the best, the HTC One or the LG G2 are maybe better. But the S4 screen isn't better than the one of the Z1. I have both and I made some test. When the contrast is better on the S4, the color are false. When the color are right (in video mode), the contrast and the brightness is better on the Z1 screen.

It's hard to compare side by side. It's like buying a TV at best buy or Fry's. You're in the showroom and you can nitpick from one TV to another. Get any one by itself and you probably wouldn't have any problems with any of them (beyond defects and/or missing features and whatnot). Most users wouldn't know the difference.

I dont trust gsmarena, they are too biased towards Samsung, ill wait until technobuffalo or someone else review the z1

It looks like Sony rushed the product.
Battery life : lets hope firmware update improves it.
Camera : lets hope blah blah same as above
Screen : not guaranteed. Lets hope blah blah
If this is the case then why not lets see if the z2 is better and then buy that.
They haven't put s-master audio chip/amplifier to boost volume level.
I was looking for a 5 inch phone which bests my One. But m sure Z1 is not that phone.
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A firmware update is not going to fix the battery life. Otherwise the Z wouldn't be as anemic as it is. Weak video and browser times.

Yeah the battery life had me scared the most since my phone is on its way in the mail.
How can they make a phone with the same SoC as the G2, same batterysize, and a smaller screen, and it gets half the browsing and videotime as the G2. Sounds like software to me.
Also when you pull up the camera comparison on gsm arena, the Z1 pictures doesn't even stand a chance against the S4 or G2.

Apoxx said:
Yeah the battery life had me scared the most since my phone is on its way in the mail.
How can they make a phone with the same SoC as the G2, same batterysize, and a smaller screen, and it gets half the browsing and videotime as the G2. Sounds like software to me.
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I'd say it's the screen.

g2 uses a new battery technology .. z1 didnt

Darn, Now I'm really thinking twice about buying this phone...
The Battery Life is very important to me... 6 hours of web browsing and 6 hours of video playback is quite pathetic for a 3000 mah battery...
I was at least expecting 9 hours each...

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I'd say it's the screen.
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weird since IPS screens are less battery efficient than TN panels.

This really sucks by sony...
How can a bigger phone with bigger screen Z Ultra have more video playback than a smaller phone Z1?
both uses same software, battery and same screen....
I cannot understand this...

Morlock O said:
This really sucks by sony...
How care a bigger phone with bigger screen Z Ultra have more video playback than a smaller phone Z1?
both uses same software, battery and same screen....
I cannot understand this...
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GSM stated that their xperia z1 is a pre-production one so it probably doesn't have the latest software . Therefore their statements on the phone are probably not accurate

Choriandus said:
GSM stated that their xperia z1 is a pre-production one so it probably doesn't have the latest software . Therefore their statements on the phone are probably not accurate
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Dream on...
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Reviews based on pre-production units only make confusion because you'll never be sure if they changed something in the final unit or not. There might be a small update in the firmware for example that changes how the phone performs. I'm surprised Sony Mobile gives out pre-release devices for reviews.
And based on this GSM Arena review the battery life is very poor, half of what other competitors achieve (LG G2).

sachinaik said:
It looks like Sony rushed the product.
Battery life : lets hope firmware update improves it.
Camera : lets hope blah blah same as above
Screen : not guaranteed. Lets hope blah blah
If this is the case then why not lets see if the z2 is better and then buy that.
They haven't put s-master audio chip/amplifier to boost volume level.
I was looking for a 5 inch phone which bests my One. But m sure Z1 is not that phone.
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In terms of sales, definitely.
Oh, camera, speed too.
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Apoxx said:
weird since IPS screens are less battery efficient than TN panels.
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Perhaps it is weird. I can't say I'm a tech guru but it just feels like it's a power-hungry screen. Did Sony spend so much time beefing up screen quality that it neglected (or felt it warranted the sacrifice of) battery life? I don't know, but I get the impression that this is the case.
I doubt software optimisation is going to change much, but I do accept the possibility that I could be wrong.

Choriandus said:
GSM stated that their xperia z1 is a pre-production one so it probably doesn't have the latest software . Therefore their statements on the phone are probably not accurate
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Agreed, although I add the caveat that if there's any firmware change or a new unit, GSM Arena are likely to redo those parts of the review and update (like they did on the HTC 1 when that too had non final software)

If you received your G3, share your impressions here

Hello xda users,
Most of us are waiting this phone and want this phone. And of course before buying we should know some information about it, camera, display, battery life, etc. I was thinking about battery life of this phone, 3000mAh is enough for qhd screen, I know LG did some tricks about battery life, but anyway, dunno if will be ok for 1 day usage. I've seen other threads are allready open, Tmobile users, UK users, Indian users, etc, but will be awesome if those who received G3 will share here impressions, pro and cons of this device, will be very useful for many users to find more information about this phone :fingers-crossed:

I have a South Korea version of 3GB ram.
I'm not good at English
So I will summary for you by using 3 point.
1. QHD is overspec.
Almost Koreans think so too.
G3 has animation framedrop when window is changed than G2 (I have used G2)
But it is not serious for use.
2. Good Design
Almost Korean has same mind.
In my think, Design forgives all problem.
Ecstatic.
3. High Temperature
the cause is QHD. SD801 is want.
Power button is heated. Oh my Summer......
Nevertheless, launching sale record or populor of G3 is more hot than SGS5 in Korea.
I think it seems like victory of design.
(GS5 is called skin pore in Korea.)
Although There is a reason like Very cheap price for launching sale. (Limited period. But sgs5 has also sale at the same time)

KR LUCKY GOLDSTAR said:
I have a South Korea version of 3GB ram.
I'm not good at English
So I will summary for you by using 3 point.
1. QHD is overspec.
Almost Koreans think so too.
G3 has animation framedrop when window is changed than G2 (I have used G2)
But it is not serious for use.
2. Good Design
Almost Korean has same mind.
In my think, Design forgives all problem.
Ecstatic.
3. High Temperature
the cause is QHD. SD801 is want.
Power button is heated. Oh my Summer......
Nevertheless, launching sale record or populor of G3 is more hot than SGS5 in Korea.
I think it seems like victory of design.
(GS5 is called skin pore in Korea.)
Although There is a reason like Very cheap price for launching sale. (Limited period. But sgs5 has also sale at the same time)
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Sir, thanks for info. How is battery life? You said you had G2, how is compare to G2?

Mr.Greg said:
Sir, thanks for info. How is battery life? You said you had G2, how is compare to G2?
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I cant test it myself. Now My g3 have become a brick by my fault. Moreover I cant find F400S firmware....
But people say g3 has a new battery saving skill.
So it is scored good point by some reviewer.

I'm also a Korean user of G3, but wanted to share a different info about G3.
In South Korea, LG actually spread the G3 almost near $100 and 50K ppl actually bought this phone only after the launch, which was at May 28.
After that, lots of people talked about its' spec and negative stuffs.
1. QHD display.
Some people(but many) said QHD is overspec. Lg setted the sharpening too high that letters were too sharpy. But, seeing the websites in PC version was amazing. Also, people said some have 'yellowish' displays. Well, most phones were to blueish and the color temp was too high, and people are thinking that this was the normal value, but, our monitors in PCs' color temperture is the same as G3, and people are seeing the yellowish colors. However, there are people who have a more yellowish displays.
2. Battery
3K mAh battery was a big battery, however, playing a movie stimuneously, ran 8 hours of battery life. However, light users usually uses for 24 hours or more. Playing movies or games will dramatically decrease battery life. QHD display consumes lots of battery life.
3. Temperature
Few people experiences high temperature on just internet surfing.
4. Design
G3 is the best design ever and Gold is the best
5. Camera
DSLR uses 300 ppi to take a picture, but G3 uses 72 ppi, which compresses the pixels. Seeing in normal or zoom-out view is pretty, but you'll see compressed pixels when you zoom in.
- Overall(in my view)
Now, I want to say about what I felt about G3. The design is very pretty. The size of the phone is same as Note 2. The grap of the phone is better than Note 2. Gold is pretty, and Black is also pretty, but if you want to have some cases on your G3, white is the winner, cuz black and gold have very few options to wear some cases.
My display have no yellowish colors, no vertical lines, decent temperature, long battery life. I think I got the normal one. I am very happy to get G3 and I'm satisfied that I have no deflects on my phone as others have a lot. Happy Happy~

Skynogi, Sir, how are photos in low light?
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"SG5 is called skin pore in Korea."
Hahaha this just made my day!.
Also, thank you for sharing your thoughts goldstar.
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Well, this is all not very positive, i think i will reconsider buying one. Thank you guys for your thougts
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How is the performance? Do you experience any lags or stuttering?
Thanks

Korea version bought in HK yesterday, F400K. The below review is not positive, but I really think i have a defect version. But my seller is refusing to let me compare with a different one, so I can't tell if it is a hardware or software issue.
* screen is gorgeous, although the sample video supplied by LG is way over sharpened, they still look nice, better than nexus 5
* camera quality is better, don't know about the laser, but definitely focusing faster and more accurate than nexus 5
* the phone holds very well and you don't feel it that much bigger compared to nexus 5 when holding, the buttons at the back are actually not bad, and you don't really need them a lot with the knock on/off feature.
* The phone lags big time compared to nexus 5. I can type much faster than the words showing up. It is so annoying that I wanted to go back to my old nexus 5. It is not so notable with the default LG keyboard, but I am using the google pinyin keyboard and it is slow as hell when typing Chinese. The same input method is butter smooth on nexus 5. I uninstalled all of the korean apps that i could and tried to stop every single process without any luck.
* Battery is not good although it maybe too early to tell. I used auto brightness with the level set to around 60(the level seems to also effect the overall auto brighness). No heavy use, just normal texting, browsing, and 15 minutes maps/gps. A full charge went down to 20% with 1.5 hours screen on time. It was on battery for about 16 hours. I had to charge it today, next time i will report with a proper screenshot. I suspect it may have something to do with korea radio running on HK LTE nextwork.

Oh dear....this is not what I wanted to hear.

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Oh dear....this is not what I wanted to hear.
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As mentioned earlier, I really think mine has some serious software or hardware issues. I just disabled 5g wifi and LTE. My phone is now on the second fully charged battery with only normal wifi and 3g connections, will report back the battery status tomorrow

I'll save judgement
This lag when typing probably isn't "normal," it'd be nice if he could get his hands on another one.

catbear said:
As mentioned earlier, I really think mine has some serious software or hardware issues. I just disabled 5g wifi and LTE. My phone is now on the second fully charged battery with only normal wifi and 3g connections, will report back the battery status tomorrow
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Sir, thanks for your small review, and post here tomorrow battery life. Also, can you do some photos in low light and see how is quality?

From what I have read so far battery life seems to be the same as the Z1, which is decent for a 2k display, but I would have preferred to have a a 1080p display with sick battery life
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remember these are the first batch..they will fix them along the way

catbear said:
As mentioned earlier, I really think mine has some serious software or hardware issues. I just disabled 5g wifi and LTE. My phone is now on the second fully charged battery with only normal wifi and 3g connections, will report back the battery status tomorrow
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Thank you for your review. Especially since I also have a nexus 5 which is hard to beat, only the camera is crap. Is the camera better then the nexus 5 camera? Focus is off at 7 out of 10 on nexus 5.
Anyway, your device must be faulty and if not...well then LG is done after delivering such peace of s*** I hope you can get your hands on another one.
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catbear said:
As mentioned earlier, I really think mine has some serious software or hardware issues. I just disabled 5g wifi and LTE. My phone is now on the second fully charged battery with only normal wifi and 3g connections, will report back the battery status tomorrow
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Yes but none of the reviews/experiences in this thread are really good/positive.
Hoping for more first hand experience, but I am not too excited any more.
Thank you for your responses to all who posted their perspective on here, and please keep on sharing your thoughts!

Fir3blade said:
Yes but none of the reviews/experiences in this thread are really good/positive.
Hoping for more first hand experience, but I am not too excited any more.
Thank you for your responses to all who posted their perspective on here, and please keep on sharing your thoughts!
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I'd reserve judgment until we see some first hand experiences in EU/US. From the sounds of this thread, it sounds like LG rushed the G3 in Korean market and there are problems.

bobbarker2 said:
I'd reserve judgment until we see some first hand experiences in EU/US. From the sounds of this thread, it sounds like LG rushed the G3 in Korean market and there are problems.
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Sure, it's too early for judgment, but I doubt LG will be able to fix the issues.
This QHD screen is totally unnecessary, but will cause problems like lag, heat and less battery life.
Don't get me wrong, I own a G2 and want the G3 so bad...

Anand tech review on g3. Not a winner on the screen..?

http://home.anandtech.com/show/8169/the-lg-g3-review
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Everyone says the jump from 1080 to 1440p isn't noticeable. I say that's dumb and it depends on the person.

when i had the 855 the screen is absolutely gorgeous. i think the reviewers are on drugs. yeah it may not be out of this world because displays today are so nice. but the difference is immediate i don't care what anyone says lol. i learned reviews are subjective. only way is to try it yourself.

One thing for sure the g3 is definitely the flawed beauty every one in love with, the device has glaring weaknesses yet many reviewers still ultimately like it despite fully acknowledging it's ugly side

nap007 said:
One thing for sure the g3 is definitely the flawed beauty every one in love with, the device has glaring weaknesses yet many reviewers still ultimately like it despite fully acknowledging it's ugly side
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The g3 is fine. Just shut up. We acknowledge its weaknesses. Every phone has them!

Lostatsea23 said:
Everyone says the jump from 1080 to 1440p isn't noticeable. I say that's dumb and it depends on the person.
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Anandtech says it is noticeable to a fault.
Over sharpness
Throttling
Display auto dimming
Like other reviews and users noted, Anandtech says the G3 would have been the closest to perfect device yet with a good 1080p display. The Qhd hurts overall performance rather than helps.

rushless said:
Anandtech says it is noticeable to a fault.
Over sharpness
Throttling
Display auto dimming
Like other reviews and users noted, Anandtech says the G3 would have been the closest to perfect device yet with a good 1080p display. The Qhd hurts overall performance rather than helps.
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Also came to same conclusion as most. The top Android phones are so close that they are basically even. Each has good points and bad. Just depends on how you as an individual rate the pros and cons.
I've had the m8.
I liked the build quality, speakers were great and screen was good. Camera sucked for anything but Internet posting. Then I realized (unlike most kids) that not everyone wants to listen to my music . So I use headphones in public and Bluetooth in car. So those boomsound bezels were pointless. And I really missed qi charging.
I had the S5
Screen was lovely. Camera was good and water resistance was nice. But I hated how it felt in my hand. And it only came with 16gb at AT&T.
LG G3
I don't have my us model. But my friend has the Korean version. My total time with it is a few hours at work. So not a great review. But I Love the way it feels in hand. Feels premium. Love the screen size. Screen to me is as good as the S5 or the M8. Was plenty bright for me indoors and out. (does have more glare than the S5, but not horrible if you're looking straight on).
I like a bright screen and 70 to 75% was perfect for me. And I never saw it dim. Maybe it does at 90 to 100%,but that's too bright for me anyway.
Halo is there. But didn't bother me really. He says with Nova it's a non issue, but it had stock launcher when I used it.
To sum up.
For me the LG G3 hits more of the right spots for me. My opinion may change once I get mine. But he loves his, and I really enjoyed the time I used it.

Anandtech reviewed a preproduction Korean model. Many of the issues they had with the screen have been fixed in the production International model.

bobbarker2 said:
Anandtech reviewed a preproduction Korean model. Many of the issues they had with the screen have been fixed in the production International model.
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The Korean models aren't all preproduction lol. People keep saying that. The early review units were as in the day of announcement. All G3s are the same now and have been fixed via a firmware update

Lostatsea23 said:
The Korean models aren't all preproduction lol. People keep saying that. The early review units were as in the day of announcement. All G3s are the same now and have been fixed via a firmware update
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Uh, duh? Saying they reviewed a preproduction Korean model does not imply that ALL Korean models are preproduction - just the one they got like every other review copy. Reading comprehension...

I always appreciate Anand and his reviews. That said, I'm still buying the phone, as my review is the most important.
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Semantics said:
I always appreciate Anand and his reviews. That said, I'm still buying the phone, as my review is the most important.
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My thoughts exactly. I have been reading so many reviews and watching video reviews. Most love the phone...... Some acknowledged that they had pre production models and were waiting for the production models and would review them again. Most of the people that have the phone are giving it a thumbs up. I will get the AT&T model and do my own personal review.

I keep seeing people dinging on the battery life, but battery life is such a relative measure. For me, it just needs to get me to the end of the day, I plug my phone into a charger when i go to sleep. I've also got a 1+ hour commute in each direction, so I attach my device to a 2A charger in my car for the trip, which makes a big difference.
Plus I guarantee someone's going to come up with a larger battery for the thing, that's the nice part about removable batteries.
Anyway, I'm more concerned with the other aspects of the QHD screen, including app compatibility. Also wondering how HDX Vudu and Netflix content will look and if the G3 attempts to sharpen/upscale that content or not.

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LG G5 reviews

the reviews are starting to come :
Digital Trends
Forbes
Trusted Reviews
GSM Arena

Seems like the "reviews" are playing it safe at this point. No one seems to be blown away by the phone just yet.
Mine is on pre order so I guess I will know soon. Despite having returned both G4 and V10 I'll keep an open mind.
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I had a feeling battery life wouldn't be too great.
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barondebxl said:
I had a feeling battery life wouldn't be too great.
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It blows mate, it's like an iphone.

Actually, review are bad....
I don't know why they take the time to test the S7, particulary with the camera. With the LG G5 review, We see so many bloom of samples even with daylight and very few low light samples... When we know the quality of the LG G4 and we read than the LG G is a little better, the reviews don't seems to push the quality of the camera.
Maybe LG don't have give enough money for the reviews^^
For the battery, it's not a problem with QuickCharge 3 or the removable battery or an support battery or .... When i see in the reviews the lack of wireless charging, what's the problem ? We lost more energy to charge an smartphone than charge it himself. Maybe in ten years, wireless could be gone, but if you have a family with all the devices who use actually, the wireless charging, welcome to your bill of electricity !
Finally, a good thing : the speaker for the voice communication. With all my Samsung devices, i find the sound is bad, with Motorola, it's excellent and with LG also.

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the reviews are starting to come :
Digital Trends
Forbes
Trusted Reviews
GSM Arena
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All video reviews filtered by recent:
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=lg+g5+review&sp=EgIIAg%3D%3D

AlwaysQuestion said:
Actually, review are bad....
I don't know why they take the time to test the S7, particulary with the camera. With the LG G5 review, We see so many bloom of samples even with daylight and very few low light samples... When we know the quality of the LG G4 and we read than the LG G is a little better, the reviews don't seems to push the quality of the camera.
Maybe LG don't have give enough money for the reviews^^
For the battery, it's not a problem with QuickCharge 3 or the removable battery or an support battery or .... When i see in the reviews the lack of wireless charging, what's the problem ? We lost more energy to charge an smartphone than charge it himself. Maybe in ten years, wireless could be gone, but if you have a family with all the devices who use actually, the wireless charging, welcome to your bill of electricity !
Finally, a good thing : the speaker for the voice communication. With all my Samsung devices, i find the sound is bad, with Motorola, it's excellent and with LG also.
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all these reviews use a Pre production unit with non final software... so we all wait for full reviews after availability

iMaterial said:
It blows mate, it's like an iphone.
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I prefer Android.Let's stick to the pursuit of better android

Until you've used the phone 3 weeks all day every day that is the only review you can trust. I can't wait to write my G5 review. My S7 Edge review goes live tomorrow. And just 10 mins after writing the Review my S7 Edge ground to a halt. Deleting photos in the gallery quickly and the phone can't keep up.
So after I thought the S7 Edge was really good I'm now in a dilemma. Probably a bug.
With all the early previews they give you an idea but not true reality. I'm very excited over the G5.

Damn, battery life sucks and the screen sucks too, what are those, this Delta E is highhh 5.6 average up to more than 10 and this low brightness.
FAILED.

iMaterial said:
It blows mate, it's like an iphone.
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But how can you possibly say that?
And that other guy that says the battery life sucks. You both telepathic? From the reviews I've watched or read they've said they were pleasantly surprised, again that's on a pre production unit

sstanton86 said:
But how can you possibly say that?
And that other guy that says the battery life sucks. You both telepathic? From the reviews I've watched or read they've said they were pleasantly surprised, again that's on a pre production unit
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I'm quite surprise too, it's not comparable to S7 (according to GSMArena results) but still is better than both G4 and V10

A little bit better for the battery life, a little bit. Pre unit or not, it's always the same, when they say it's pre unit it's the final software and hardware... and means it sucks.

I must have watched a million reviews online about mobiles and ever since the "smartphone" came out all everyone says is battery life could be better. I'm personally not too bothered, plus I'd rather have poor battery life on a phone which I can change the battery on. Either I've preordered mine and can't wait for its arrival.

I read up on this phone daily, and though all the previews/reviews make note of the fact they are using a pre-release unit, most seem to agree battery life isn't up to par and the module clip/battery is not easy to remove/replace. I've read/seen previews where they almost thought they were going to break something, and that is not good.

Sammae7 said:
I read up on this phone daily, and though all the previews/reviews make note of the fact they are using a pre-release unit, most seem to agree battery life isn't up to par and the module clip/battery is not easy to remove/replace. I've read/seen previews where they almost thought they were going to break something, and that is not good.
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All because it's something new in my opinion. Of course you have the thought in the back of your mind about breaking it. No other phone has ever let you rip apart the bottom half lol.
But always a double edge sword, if it were to easily slide out, ppl would complain about build quality and the potential of the module slipping out on basic usage. The community's will always have their own thoughts. And I agree with the fellow a couple post ahead of me, literally every single smartphone that has ever been announced the people said they wanted longer battery life lmao. If I get an hour less standby time than my buddy with an S7. Who cares. I save 2 hours of charge time by swapping out another battery in 30 seconds or less. Im a huge phone buff and I have to say I'm more than ecstatic about this device.

"LG's G5 Smartphone Is A Giant Leap In Photographic Capabilities Over The G4"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/patrick...raphic-capabilities-over-the-g4/#ec273e833d00
Looks better in automatic mode maybe, but giant leap ?

DoKaTSuYa said:
"LG's G5 Smartphone Is A Giant Leap In Photographic Capabilities Over The G4"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/patrick...raphic-capabilities-over-the-g4/#ec273e833d00
Looks better in automatic mode maybe, but giant leap ?
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Giant leap is a bit of an exaggeration, but their examples were quite good. That again was also a pre-production sample they were using. I personally am very much looking forward to the camera on this phone.

MobileSyrup's review:
https://youtu.be/_7B8PGyrLR0
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Killua96 said:
I'm quite surprise too, it's not comparable to S7 (according to GSMArena results) but still is better than both G4 and V10
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http://www.greenbot.com/article/3045340/android/lg-g5-benchmarks.html
Battery performance the same so as usual take all reviews with a pinch of salt. Some reviews claim S7 last a little ,onger but then mention the swappable battery on the G5 so usual a draw in comparison.