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[Q] So, I'm getting a Tab 10.1...

I'm getting a Tab 10.1 and was wondering a few things:
-If I don't like the Samsung apps(for example, the TW launcher), can I install the apks from a Xoom sys dump?
-If I wanted to install an app that has no tablet version yet (say through an apk) would it blow up to 10.1 inch size?
-And also, how easy is it to get back to stock after a complete ****up, brick and everything (that's on of the reasons the Moto Milestone is still my primary phone)
Thanks 4 the help guys, any answers are appreciated a lot.
Ev

I'm not sure about the Xoom apks, but I've seen that people have been able to successfully run the ASUS Transformer apks on other tablets.
As far as the apps goes, I think there are two ways they are handled:
A) They are tablet compatible, and will take up the whole screen like a tablet app. You may end up with a lot of blank space as they will retain the same layout (and icon size) as the phone version, but in all in all very useful.
B) Some apps aren't tablet compatible yet. This open in a tiny window on your screen (the rest of the screen is black) about the same size they would on your phone.
I think it's fairly trivial to update apps so they handled in way A, but I've come across one or two apps that haven't been updated yet.

Thank you!
Thanks for the answers, that clears up a few things.
I'm still going to have to trawl the forums for a way to get back to stock if all else fails, but u answered all my other questions, so thanks again!!
tr4z

I have quite a few non tablet apps currently running on my tab.
Many of them take up the entire screen with no issues.
The only way I can tell they aren't official tablet apps is the location of the menu button.
Apps optimized for the tablet will have the menu button in the upper right corner, while non official apps will have them at the bottom.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk

all apps will scale to full screen if you turn off compatibility mode. I'm told that some apps will crash if you disable compatibility mode but I have never experienced this.

Hey man , as far as things go with recovering .. the root is a fairly easy process , and you can recover with Odin like Galaxy S phones .. I havent HAD to do it yet , but using it was part of how i rooted . And i have a Galaxy S Fascinate , and Odin can recover ANYTHING as far as it is concerned , I cant imagine it being much different on the 10.1 tab . At least im hoping not , as that factored into my decision in buying one .
Im working on some new optimized apps and a theme now .. hopefully we can get them up here on xda when completed .

Anyone with different LCD density and Market issue, look here

I've been in touch with Google the past few weeks cause I hardly get any updates through the market since about three months.
Google noticed that everybody or at least most users with a non-standard screen density have this issue. Many apps give a 'your device is not compatible with this application' error when browsing the internet/desktop market version (not the phone market app).
And than in the market you won't see your apps under 'My Apps'
When you switch back to 'default density (240) the problem is gone.
Google is investigating the issue but does not know yet if they will support non-standard densities.
If this is a double post, sorry for that.

They dont't need to support non standard dpi but they should let applications to show up in Market. This is the reason I downgraded the Market version on my phone, but this is not a solution. I hope Google will let the users decide what dpi is best for them.

Yep but as long as they fear claims and complaints nothing may happen...
At the same time the 2 persons I've been dealing with have been very cooperative and asked me lots of questions. Gave them app details, logs and after a few weeks they came back with this conclusion.
Which sort of makes respect them, after all, I'm only one of nearly 200 million Android users!

blackspp said:
I've been in touch with Google the past few weeks cause I hardly get any updates through the market since about three months.
Google noticed that everybody or at least most users with a non-standard screen density have this issue. Many apps give a 'your device is not compatible with this application' error when browsing the internet/desktop market version (not the phone market app).
And than in the market you won't see your apps under 'My Apps'
When you switch back to 'default density (240) the problem is gone.
Google is investigating the issue but does not know yet if they will support non-standard densities.
If this is a double post, sorry for that.
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Seen a couple of these pop up so far. The problem has been affecting me for a while now, but I just figured out what caused it last week. Lots of people (myself included) seem to have thought nobody else had this problem.
Post: Changing DPI and new market makes apps incompatibility
Post: [Q] Cannot update multiple installed apps, is it the new market?
blackspp said:
Yep but as long as they fear claims and complaints nothing may happen...
At the same time the 2 persons I've been dealing with have been very cooperative and asked me lots of questions. Gave them app details, logs and after a few weeks they came back with this conclusion.
Which sort of makes respect them, after all, I'm only one of nearly 200 million Android users!
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I'm almost surprised it took so long for them to notice that trend, considering they surely have facilities to notice trends in their databases. Score one for XDA! (Very cool of Google to provide such tailored support, though!)

So, no "permanent" dpi change solution for now?
I kinda missed my streak because of this high DPI on the SGS2. Everything getting so big, i losed some of my productivity...

schizo said:
So, no "permanent" dpi change solution for now?
I kinda missed my streak because of this high DPI on the SGS2. Everything getting so big, i losed some of my productivity...
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To "permanently" change your DPI to "XYZ", add these lines to /data/local.prop:
Code:
ro.sf.lcd_density=XYZ
qemu.sf.lcd_density=XYZ
(Note: If /data/local.prop does not exist, you may create it yourself.)
- OR -
If you would prefer that the change not persist when flashing a new ROM, you could edit /system/build.prop, which should already contain the "ro.sf.lcd_density" property unless you're on a 160dpi device. /system/build.prop will be overwritten any time you flash a new ROM, even if you do not wipe first.
Both of these methods will require a reboot for changes to take effect.
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Alternately, if you would like to avoid editing system files by hand, there is an app called Blade Buddy which allows you to modify various properties in /data/local.prop, including LCD density.
To save your changes from Blade Buddy, tap Menu -> Save. If you choose not to reboot, you can then tap Menu -> Apply to apply the changes in RAM and restart the UI to see them in action. (Applying density without rebooting seems to be hit-or-miss.)
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Regardless of how you set your LCD density, the Market will exhibit the incompatibility bug.
As a workaround, I have set my density "permanently" with Blade Buddy and use LCDDensity for Root to revert to default once and a while, so I can launch the Market and get all my updates. LCDDensity for Root is designed specifically to change density temporarily, on-the-fly, and on as many devices as possible.

Thanks, Mr. Bezeek. Actually what I'm looking is the permanent solution of not having to temporarily switch back and forth. As for editing .props I already have experience before with my Streak. Hehehehe
But still, thanks anyway and hope you not offended. I like it the way you help others in precise and detailed manner. Keep it up, bro *thumbs_up*

Not a problem, just doing my bit to make sure the information is out there.
As far as avoiding the temporary switching goes, I'll be on vacation for the next week, but I intend to try a little hacking when I get back, to see if I can find a way to spoof the dpi. That is, if Google doesn't throw us a bone in the meantime.
Users have reported that older versions of the Market still work. The one shipped with the latest OTA for my Evo worked for me, and I suspect that any version released before they changed the Market UI will. YMMV.

Just thought I'd toss this out there... I have a Droid X. When running MIUI 1.8.19 on it, I don't have this problem. I can set my density to 200 and the newest market (3.1.3) still works as expected. Seems as though with all the other ROMs I've tried (both blur and 2nd init), I couldn't access a lot of stuff unless I set density back to 240. I can't remember for sure, but I might have been able to set stock .602 (rooted) to 200 with no problems as well - but I'm a little iffy on that. So it would seem that MIUI has done something (perhaps not intentionally) to work around the problem. I just wish I had the smarts to figure out what that might be.
Edit: I realize that this is not a Droid X forum, but I was thinking this info might help somehow. Thanks.

tslovejoy1969 said:
Just thought I'd toss this out there... I have a Droid X. When running MIUI 1.8.19 on it, I don't have this problem. I can set my density to 200 and the newest market (3.1.3) still works as expected. Seems as though with all the other ROMs I've tried (both blur and 2nd init), I couldn't access a lot of stuff unless I set density back to 240. I can't remember for sure, but I might have been able to set stock .602 (rooted) to 200 with no problems as well - but I'm a little iffy on that. So it would seem that MIUI has done something (perhaps not intentionally) to work around the problem. I just wish I had the smarts to figure out what that might be.
Edit: I realize that this is not a Droid X forum, but I was thinking this info might help somehow. Thanks.
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Good to know! Being able to compare a "working" ROM to mine will surely make it easier to identify a workaround.

Nice info never noted this before!! yeah i dint get any updates over a last few weeks. Im at 200 dpi.

I've been switching back to 240 periodically to get updates, not a big deal to me, but would be nice if things worked normally. My only real issue with running lower dpi (160 here) is that some apps don't scale properly. IE the Dialer.

blackspp said:
I've been in touch with Google the past few weeks cause I hardly get any updates through the market since about three months.
Google noticed that everybody or at least most users with a non-standard screen density have this issue. Many apps give a 'your device is not compatible with this application' error when browsing the internet/desktop market version (not the phone market app).
And than in the market you won't see your apps under 'My Apps'
When you switch back to 'default density (240) the problem is gone.
Google is investigating the issue but does not know yet if they will support non-standard densities.
If this is a double post, sorry for that.
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Thank for this information! I've been wondering why some standard apps weren't compatible.. It's weird, since they work if you side load them ...
I hope google finds a solution.
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I just switched from 190dpi to 160. Angry birds seasons is now compatible( wasn't with 190dpi)
Dank U vriendelijk

Wow. This has been driving me crazy trying to work out why apps where missing. Guess I need to swap to 240 occasionally for updates.

I am using 200 / 192 DPIs from day one. (3 months). its working fine.I never faced incompatibility issue with market. however some games doesn't run correctly which usually i don't play.

i have a workaround idea, and i started a thread to discuss here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288150

The google support thread for this is here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=19744#makechanges
I still have this issue and if you do a web search you'll see that many still do. Reply in the support thread to raise awareness ! or if you have a workaround please share You also might want to check out his Idea thread, if you have some developing skill please help.

schizo said:
So, no "permanent" dpi change solution for now?
I kinda missed my streak because of this high DPI on the SGS2. Everything getting so big, i losed some of my productivity...
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I came from a streak as well and it's this is the biggest annoyance I've had with the sgsii.
The reason why i enjoy Android over any other mobile OS is because i can tailor the OS to how i want it. Not allowing me to download apps because I'm using a non standard density is crippling.
For now, i urge everyone to go to the google support thread and simply press click the star. No need to comment (unless you found a fix), the more stars the issue gets, the more likely Google will look into it.

Seems to be fixed with the latest market version.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

Ke11ett said:
Seems to be fixed with the latest market version.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
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yeah i seem to be ok ive just got the version from androidpolice last night. im on 3.3.11 now, still cant install stuff from the website though says my phone is incompatible for everything lol

New Ultra headed my way!

Should have it by the 17th. Really looking forward to it.
There looks to be a lot more info here on Remix in general ...looks good! ?
One thing is I am hoping for is a way to safely increase the ram. Seems I read that the Ultra is already rooted, so hopefully there is an easy way to do this!
OH... The Ultra is on sale at Amazon for $199 ...says it includes keyboard! Sweet!
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It's not rooted. But its easy to flash a custom recovery and install the su binary.

BamaPanda said:
Should have it by the 17th. Really looking forward to it.
There looks to be a lot more info here on Remix in general ...looks good!
One thing is I am hoping for is a way to safely increase the ram. Seems I read that the Ultra is already rooted, so hopefully there is an easy way to do thd
OH... The Ultra is on sale at Amazon for $199 ...says it includes keyboard! Sweet!
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If you can find the Cyanogen Mod recovery then you can download the supersu from the market. Boot into recovery and then apply the supersu as an update. Once done you cannot get OTA updates, but supersu lets you unroot and then you can repeate the process of replacing the recovery and rooting. Very easy to do and much easier than using other root tools out there.

Got it early. Ordered Friday... delivered Monday.
Already updated to 2.0, which changed the settings app. Then the mouse stopped working on the keyboard, so I may be looking to reset the tab and start over... not that big of a deal.
Unless someone chimes in here with an idea to get the trackpad working again.
Neat tab. Made a video I may post later.
Thanks for any helpful input.

Reset the tablet, all is well for the trackpad.
So this is supposed to be a multi-tasker, but for the life of me I cannot find the feature that was on version 1.5 ....the ability to have phone sized windows.
Where did that feature go? Anyone know?
Thanks.

BamaPanda said:
Reset the tablet, all is well for the trackpad.
So this is supposed to be a multi-tasker, but for the life of me I cannot find the feature that was on version 1.5 ....the ability to have phone sized windows.
Where did that feature go? Anyone know?
Thanks.
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Try under settings / applications and see if open in full screen mode is checked.

tomlogan1 said:
Try under settings / applications and see if open in full screen mode is checked.
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Thank you. I found it and it is un-checked.
I have since found a few apps, like calculator and another I installed ...Ccleaner, do open in smaller or larger windows, and can be moved about on the screen.
Still none of my larger apps, that I use for business ...like Polaris, seem to have any options to change.
I am thinking I am going to have to carefully check my apps and look for those which may work and fit with the Remix multi windows setup. So far there are not many.
Not quite what I expected, but I will keep working with it.
Thanks again!

I mentioned this in another post here. It applies to version 2.0.
The way to determine if the app being used can be brought down to a phone sized/smaller window is to swipe down with your finger from the top. To the right will be the option to expand or contract the app. Works on some apps, not on others, but at least now I know where the option is.
Hope this helps.

App Freezing
Anyone having problems with apps freezing, mouse still working, but cant scroll or select on apps.
Giving me trouble in facebook messenger and google drive

oh yeah. i have to hard-reboot mine at least once a day. video is usually the culprit, specifically youtube.
support didn't have any advice so i've just gotten used to it.

Its an ongoing problem. Video is the first notification of it you'll notice, but I've seen it in games too, specifically Alto's Adventure and The Room 3.
According to the errors I've captured with logcat its an issue caused by the nvidia drivers.

yes, i have noticed that in logcat too. is it that NVIDIA is not meant to work with android? surely there are other android devices on their chips... it is so frustrating.

Tab a SMT585 Advice please for a newbie

Hi guys/girls
First off im totally new to rooting any kind of device, thanks to a lot of the awesome work from people on this forum i have done a lot of reading and think i have successfully rooted my device (according to the root check app it is yay!)
However on reading a lot of things i just wanted to check if i have done all steps correct
So
Put device in to download -
Went on odin
Added the .tar file
Rebooted in to the other boot option
Transfered the SU zip file over
Clicked the zip file and installed
All seems to be working fine but reading things about flashing etc have i missed something?
Also an app i was using (the whole reason i rooted in the first place) HiroMacro
Was working fine nearly all day until i stopped and restarted it
Now it is not recognising any touch inputs? and not recording any types of input? any suggestions as to why this may of suddenly happened? Did i do something wrong or has something possibly changed that i need to investigate?
Thanks in advance and also thanks already for the endless knowledge on here
EDIT
I have tried other applications that "record" a touch input for auto playback, NONE are recoring/recognising any kind of input has something gone wrong with the root process? or is my tab security blocking something im not realising?
Thanks again

Update :
Proof i am still trying and battling with this,
I completely wiped my tablet and have installed a completely new ROM
Now this still has not fixed the issue!
However now when i enable the touch location debug there is a grey bar appearing at the top of the screen, just below the notification line that moves on rotation
Just a crazy idea... but is this the area that the app is going ot recognise touch input? as this was never there before? the area is not big enough to attempt to record any input? however any ideas if this is the case on how to "extend" the touch area
Thanks again

jcole90 said:
Update :
Proof i am still trying and battling with this,
I completely wiped my tablet and have installed a completely new ROM
Now this still has not fixed the issue!
However now when i enable the touch location debug there is a grey bar appearing at the top of the screen, just below the notification line that moves on rotation
Just a crazy idea... but is this the area that the app is going ot recognise touch input? as this was never there before? the area is not big enough to attempt to record any input? however any ideas if this is the case on how to "extend" the touch area
Thanks again
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On Google or Youtube, try searching up how to reset your tablet with the Samsung Smart Switch app for Samsung Devices. It works a lot better than Kie 3 (It's been updated) and it should fix all of it. ODIN way is not the most fool-proof method but the official Samsung Smart Switch is a lot more easy and it's automatic. You will only need your Device Model Number and Serial Number.

Joying Intel Head Unit Android 6 Update

Android 6 update is available below...
PLEASE NOTE: This is a one way street, no downgrading to android 5.
https://www.carjoying.com/Joying-blog/59.html
Jeep and TL123 (toyota) model are the only ones which use the low resolution ROM
Considering this was released today please be careful what risk you are taking.
I will be doing some tests and will report if I find any issue.. please send your bug reports to carjoying so they can be fixed.
Also we need an INTEL subcategory in the forum under Android Auto
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Passwords:
3368 for settings
8086 launchers
5768 menu backlight
Root and debug on
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72057022&postcount=12
- method 2 still work for root and SU
Google voice response works without hacking.
audio_policy.conf now supports usb dacs without modification
TomTom GO works without risky bootloader mod.
Viper4Android installs correctly
-with removal of deep buffer section in /system/etc/audio_policy.conf as per https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72060811&postcount=35
- https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72064749&postcount=41
The pull down white text color issue is fixed with play music and other apps
New Recovery
If you need to RE-FLASH the 6.0 firmware, you MUST rename 5009_20.zip to 5009_60.zip , otherwise the firmware will throw an error! yay! I just tested it and it WORKS!
Enable wireless adb https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71616884&postcount=273
Enable split screen settings in debugging mode then you can split the screens from the task manager (post #84 & #103)
updated "no-kill" https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72102580&postcount=87
task killer removed and will call the google voice search from the 'SRC' button https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72153510&postcount=159
ADB enable easier way post #160: in the downloaded ROM zip,
"config.txt" inside the root firmware directory , just add "service.adb.tcp.port=5555" to the last line.
Spotify notifications work
google from any screen by velvet apk post #206 https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72179874&postcount=206
the CPU works a lot nicer, spending a lot of time at lower freqs when power is not needed
.when you get out of sleep the selected apps are no longer in split screen
you can't read the PMIC temperature anymore
when you set the DPI to 240 the upper bar gets huge and the apps still don't scale well
the bar gets white on Deezer, annoying at night,ugly looking (bug) picture attached
the iGO/Waze bug that makes the unit sleep after 5 minutes (instead of the normal 1 minute) from the moment the engine is off is still present. drawing .01-.05amp for that 5min.
MAY 8 2017 UPDATE
BUG Fixes , Bluetooth Issues solved and working well
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Steering wheel key customization
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...-units/joying-2gb-steering-wheel-key-t3543390
Tips and Tricks link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...roll-joying-2gb-sofia-mtcb-mtcd-tips-t3555249

tomtom go
doctorman said:
Android 6 update is available below...
PLEASE NOTE: This is a one way street, no downgrading to android 5.
https://www.carjoying.com/Joying-blog/59.html
Considering this was released today please be careful what risk you are taking.
I will be doing some tests and will report if I find any issue.. please send your bug reports to carjoying so they can be fixed.
Also we need an INTEL subcategory in the forum under Android Auto
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It works tomtom go?

Again no detailed change log. Incredible.

I'd keep away until a few people have tried this.....

Beta release? Don't think I'd risk this on the head unit and end up without a working unit until they actually fix it.... "Fix some bugs" seems to be the extent of most of their change logs... hehe

someone guinea pig it

Looking forward to someone having the balls to flash this.
As a side note...why is everyone so excited about Android 6 on this unit...I don't see any features that would even make me update.

CadillacMike said:
someone guinea pig it
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Install went very quick, it wipes all applications and data.
I have not yet been able to access via wifi / ADB, so no rooting or mods as of now
> adb connect 10.0.0.26
unable to connect to 10.0.0.26:5555: Connection refused

gustden said:
Install went very quick, it wipes all applications and data.
I have not yet been able to access via wifi / ADB, so no rooting or mods as of now
> adb connect 10.0.0.26
unable to connect to 10.0.0.26:5555: Connection refused
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That would be simply terrible if it can't be bypassed.

CadillacMike said:
someone guinea pig it
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doitright4 said:
Since it wiped everything, did you remember to enable usb debugging? (which really means adbd)
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KamaL said:
That would be simply terrible if it can't be bypassed.
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USB debugging was enabled.
It looks like they missed persist.adb.tcp.port=5555 in the properties. It can be enabled by the following:
1) download a terminal program ( Terminal Emulator for Android )
2) enter the following command: setprop persist.adb.tcp.port 5555
3) reboot
I just, installed supersu and seems to be working

doitright4 said:
That's a great point, and it is really... sad? stupid? FREAKING RETARDED!!!! that they would bother wasting time to build 6.0 so long after 7.0 (and 7.1 even!!!) are already available.
7.x of course, adds in split screen mode, which would be a GREAT benefit to car radios.
There is one thing, however, that could make the 6.0 build good, especially an early or beta build... they've had less time to destroy it than they've had to destroy 5.x. So its probably a faster, more stable, and more respectful build than what we've previously seen.
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Yeah split screen might be useful...otherwise it just runs navigation/music/videos in cars mostly...which any version of Android can do.

mirror up for 1024x600 version:
pending
extracted files here
pending

gustden said:
USB debugging was enabled.
It looks like they missed persist.adb.tcp.port=5555 in the properties. It can be enabled by the following:
1) download a terminal program ( Terminal Emulator for Android )
2) enter the following command: setprop persist.adb.tcp.port 5555
3) reboot
I just, installed supersu and seems to be working
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Great to hear that.
Are there any noticeable changes so far?

So how's the update?
Is it faster/slower than android 5?
Did you find some bugs?

@gustden mind checking if the apps are still the same as in 5.1.1? Especially around the server app if the kill switch is still present

bogdi1988 said:
@gustden mind checking if the apps are still the same as in 5.1.1? Especially around the server app if the kill switch is still present
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All the apps are still the same. Not seeing much difference, other than in the settings. So far, it seems fast and stable.
Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0.apk looks the same ( and still kills everything on standby). Hope to have time to remove the app killer and add the other mods over the weekend.

gustden said:
All the apps are still the same. Not seeing much difference, other than in the settings. So far, it seems fast and stable.
Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0.apk looks the same ( and still kills everything on standby). Hope to have time to remove the app killer and add the other mods over the weekend.
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Thanks! I'd love to see an updated Server with the standby-kill removed, the source button -> google search hack and the mute-alarms feature removed so we can have the voice output for Google searches - if possible please?

gustden said:
I just, installed supersu and seems to be working
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Way to go man !
Thank you !
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bogdi1988 said:
@gustden mind checking if the apps are still the same as in 5.1.1? Especially around the server app if the kill switch is still present
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Good point ! It would be nice to be able to use the mods from 5.0.1 ... or at least some of them....
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gustden said:
All the apps are still the same. Not seeing much difference, other than in the settings. So far, it seems fast and stable.
Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0.apk looks the same ( and still kills everything on standby). Hope to have time to remove the app killer and add the other mods over the weekend.
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Is the notifications bar still broken ? (white text and buttions on white bar)

And the most important question, any changes regarding the Bluetooth module? Does it still cover the screen during calls without the ability to minimize?

KamaL said:
And the most important question, any changes regarding the Bluetooth module? Does it still cover the screen during calls without the ability to minimize?
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Based on what @gustden said, it looks like all the apps are the same so I would assume that issue is still present.