External Battery? - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

What external battery will work with the Galaxy S8 considering it has USB C now? There was a mess awhile back with people arguing over what was safe and what isn't. Will popular external battery brands such as Anker PowerCore+ be safe or work with the new Galaxy S8?

I feel like you should be able to use any of your current battery packs with the S8. Even though they use USB-C now, I thought that mess was with the cables, not the battery packs themselves, as I did hear that if you used low quality cables, those can royally screw up your phone. I have no plans on buying new battery packs, probably just new cables... or just use an adapter, as I already have one on standby.

I just answered in the accessories section.. It depends on what "Fast Charging" standard the S8/S8+ uses if you will be able to fast charge it with existing USB-A port batteries.
short answer... Using quality USB-A to USB-C cables (I have Anker and Choetech usb-a to usb-c cables), I can charge my Pixel, Nexus 6P & 5X, Lumia 950 and HP Elite X3 (all use USB-C ports) with my Anker Powercore 20100 and Powercore+ 10050, but at "regular" (aka non-fast) speed.

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[INFO] Some quick notes about charging

Hey guys, while this information may be redundant to some, this is my first 2A charging phone having come from a GS2. A few note's i thought i'd share about fully utilizing the maximum charging of this phone. Using Elixer app, i was able to determine a few tips when charging
CABLE LENGTH MATTERS
I went out and bought some nice long monoprice cables, 10' and 15', i hated the feeling of being sucked to the nearest wall when you wanted to charge and use your phone. Plugged it into my nice new S4 wall port with a 10' cable, and checked the amperage being sucked in, to my surprise it was no where near the 1900mA max i should be getting. Went to the 15', even lower current (duh, for those who weren't able to put that together), went back to my 6' cable, boom, back up to 1900mA.
TLDR: 6' max for maximum charging
PAY ATTENTION TO 3rd PARTY SPECS
often times these specs are misleading on amazon and such. Often times you will see a 2A car charger with two ports! Awesome, but sadly each port is usually rated for 1A each. This will not be enough to output a full 1.9A (1900mA) for your device. You need to look for 3.1A rated two port items (2.1A and 1A port), or 2/2.1A output for single port chargers, or for true dual charging, a 4.2A rated with each port rated for 2.1A. They do exist.
Also, pay attention to whether the device is iPAD (or any dumb iDevice) certified or marketed to the iCommunitiy. Often times even though the dual port chargers with the 2.1 and a 1 amp port, the 2.1 amp port does NOT have the correct data ports shorted out. What this means is how the phone detects the power source. When you hook your phone up to a computer, there are channels in the USB cable that tell the phone it will be using data, this then limits the amount of power it will draw. The iPAD chargers are set up this way where the data ports are not shorted out, so your phone will not suck the full amount of power. To bypass this, you either need 'CHARGING ONLY' USB cables, which short out this channel for you, or you need to mod the charger with some light soldering. Often times i find this iPAD issue on the ones rated for 2.1A, the 2A chargers generally do not have this issue (just a generalization on the marketing of the chargers, not a fact)
do some reading on the spec's before you blast the product, i hate it when people bash it when they buy the wrong thing and it's their own fault for not taking the time to research it. And if it's not clear, don't buy it!
Ok, that's all i have for now, hopefully this helped some people out there. make sure you do your reading before you write up posts about your phone charging slow, or bash a product you bought because you didnt understand what it was truly designed for.

Can I use regular 2A charger with N6p?

There are no many adapters on the market and I couldn't find original huawei adapter. Can I use a regular adapter (samsung 2A for example) with my Nexus?
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Yes, but you must use a certified cable. Check Benson Leung's reviews on Amazon to find a good one or use the cable provided in the box.
However you can buy original charger from Google Store or a valid alternative from Amazon like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Type-..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1461623244&sr=1-1
If I understand correctly some articles USB A chargers doesn't support type-c power profile, so the phone will charge at a constant rate without lowering amperage to be gentle with the battery. Furthermore the quick charge is a very useful feature, so I suggest you to buy a compatible charger.
Absolutely. Just be aware that charging of the Nexus 6P/5X is limited to 1.5A over a proper USB Type-A to USB Type-C cable. With a USB Type-C to USB Type-C cable and a Type-C charger, it charges at up to 3A (as it does with the official charger).
So if you're worried about speed of charging, you may want to get yourself a new USB Type-C charger, as a Type-A charger will take about twice as long! (a 3A USB Type-C charger takes about 90 minutes) Personally, I just have a USB Type-A charger by my bed, since it will definitely finish charging while I sleep. Then I keep the original charger in my work bag, in case I need to quickly recharge during the day!
frezd91 said:
If I understand correctly some articles USB A chargers doesn't support type-c power profile, so the phone will charge at a constant rate without lowering amperage to be gentle with the battery. Furthermore the quick charge is a very useful feature, so I suggest you to buy a compatible charger.
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I don't know if that's the case, but if it is, I'm not sure it matters. With the USB Type-C charger it's drawing 3A and then lowers as the battery gets full, but I don't know how low it gets. Whereas a USB Type-A charger will be drawing 1.5A maximum, so it may not even need to lower.
Any good USB type A charger that you can recommend?
I Have a good opinion about Samsung adaptive charger that my wife uses with her note edge.
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I am partial to Anker brand chargers. I would suggest the PowerPort 2 (as I own a couple), it is capable of charging two devices at up to 2.4A each (while the Nexus 6P can only draw 1.5A, iPads can draw the full 2.4A because of their proprietary tech). But as you can see on the Anker website, they have a ton of different options!

Quick Charge specs? Outlet?

So what do we call the "Quick Charge" that was used for the Nexus 6P? I know it wasn't the same as the quick charge in other phones at the time and it was kind of proprietary when it came out.
The reason I ask is because I need a new charger, but I was curious if there was a wall outlet (with usb ports) that would do the same thing.....Most of the wall outlets say 2.1amp 3.1amps or 4amps, which I assume is divided between the 2 ports if both are in operation. I also have a Nexus 9 so I'd like to be able to charge that.
Any tips or info on what specs I need to look for?
GatorsUF said:
So what do we call the "Quick Charge" that was used for the Nexus 6P? I know it wasn't the same as the quick charge in other phones at the time and it was kind of proprietary when it came out.
The reason I ask is because I need a new charger, but I was curious if there was a wall outlet (with usb ports) that would do the same thing.....Most of the wall outlets say 2.1amp 3.1amps or 4amps, which I assume is divided between the 2 ports if both are in operation. I also have a Nexus 9 so I'd like to be able to charge that.
Any tips or info on what specs I need to look for?
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You can look over in the Accessories sub-forum where there is plenty of charger and cable discussion, but basically the 6P does not support the quick charge standard and ANY charger or cable that uses a USB-A port will NOT rapid charge your phone. You need a charger that either has a USB-C female outlet or integrated (non-removable) USB-C cable that supports the USB-C 5V-3A standard. That is the only way the phone will rapid charge. The N9 does not support the quick charge or turbo charge standards either. Mine came with 1.5A charger. You just need a good 5V charger that puts out at least 1.5A and the tablet will safely limit the input amperage. Since you have two devices to charge, you may consider a charger that has both a USB-C and USB-A port.

Does the V20 support USB-PD charging?

tl;dr version-
I tried charging my V20 from my Nintendo Switch charger, and it didn't just "not work..." it tripped the charger such that I had to unplug it briefly before it would charge anything again (even the Switch). Does this mean the V20 doesn't support USB-PD? Or is the Switch charger just supplying the wrong voltage/current combo for any device other than a Switch?
"I've got time" version-
The simple act of charging your phone has gotten overly complicated in the last generation or two of phones... with branches of QuickCharge (2, 3, etc), and USB-PD (Power delivery). Not to mention all of the sub-par cables out there, which mandates a separate search on the Benson-Approved list.
When I bought my US996 (unlocked) V20, which officially supports QC3.0... I stuck with all of my existing QC2.0 chargers that I had from my Note 4, and I bought a couple "good" USB-C cables in order to charge the phone in the car, at work, etc.
Now I have a need to buy more chargers and cables... as well as a powerbank for an upcoming trip to Disneyworld. So, I'm curious what methods I can employ to charge my V20. I have the opportunity to buy USB-PD chargers and powerbanks, as well as cables that are USB-C on both ends to use with those USB-PD devices, but I'm not sure if it will fry my V20, or at least not charge it efficiently/at all. I came to realize that there are some politics involved with what charging schemes certain hardware can support, what they're allowed to SAY it supports, advertising, etc. I even saw an article that the LG G5 (or maybe the G6? I forget) supports USB-PD, even though it's not advertised... so I thought the V20 might be the same. So I tried it...
I recently purchased a Nintendo Switch, which is a USB-PD device, so I (foolishly) tried to charge my V20 using the Switch's power adapter. It caused no damage to any device, but when I did plug it in, the phone briefly said it was charging, then NOT charging... and the power adapter wouldn't charge ANYTHING again until I unplugged it from the wall for a bit and plugged it back in.
I take this to mean that my V20 does not support USB-PD... but it may also be that the Switch power adapter is a specialized device that supplies a voltage and current combination that is ideal for the Switch, but my V20 finds to be offensive. The Switch power adapter is not intended to be "universal" in any way, so my short test only eliminated the Switch charging adapter as compatible... not USB-PD as a whole. If it would have worked, my experiment would have validated USB-PD as a charging option.
Can anyone comment on this? Thanks!
I've been using my V20 with the following USB-PD charger successfully:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y427WT7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've been experiencing much faster charging than with my other QualComm QC 2.0 adapter.
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I've been using my V20 with the following USB-PD charger successfully:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y427WT7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've been experiencing much faster charging than with my other QualComm QC 2.0 adapter.
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Sorry for the late reply...
Very interesting. So, you're using that power adapter with a dual-ended USB type C cable? Using an app like Ampere or AccuBattery... can you tell me what kinds of current flow you get with the screen off and on? If it's significantly more than 2000mA, I'd be very interested.
I use a Pixel charger, which is PD. It has a wall wart and a 6' USB-C to USB-C cable.
https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_18w_power_adapter_2
I got mine at Best Buy for $25 CAD.
It charges my V20 quicker than either of my QC 2.0 or 3.0 chargers.

Charger with PD + QC 3.0 for G6?

Hi,
Has anyone been successful in finding a 30+ watt Power Delivery USB C charger that also supports QuickCharge 3.0? Apparently the G6 is extremely picky and only accepts PD from a few chargers. Since I'm permanently travelling with this setup I don't mind if it's a charger with just 1 output.
Thanks for any suggestions!
drftr
G6 doesnt support PD, it only supports qualcomm QuickCharge 3.0
Thanks. I know but I have other devices that do. As I'm permanently travelling I'm looking for ONE charger and ONE cable that fit the bill.
https://gtrusted.com/how-the-lg-g6-charges-with-the-google-universal-type-c-charger-60w-using-usb-power-delivery
This site tests many qc and pd chargers with the lg g6 - search.
Anyways, LG G6 works fine with both types because it's built-in.
As long as you have a compatible PD charger, you'll be fine in the future with other devices, too. No need for a QC charger.
Thanks.
I'm familiar with their articles and it is exactly there that I learned most PD chargers DON'T work with the G6. Furthermore I've been contacting many companies and most agree on those findings.
For pocket-sized single port 30+ Watt PD chargers that DO work so far I have found:
Anker PowerPort III Mini (30W)
Choetech Q6006 (61W)
Choetech Q4004 (60W)
ZMI zPower Turbo HA-712 (65W)
UGreen CD127 (30W)
UGreen CD207 (45W)
Mu One (45W)
There's a few of which the company says it won't work while the manufacturer says it does:
RAVPower PD Pioneer RP-PC120 (30W)
RAVPower PD Pioneer RP-PC112 (61W)
Some of these are "rather exotic" and you'll find zero reviews. Interesting but not surprising was finding out that most of these are just made by one single company in Shenzhen. They just put your company specific logo there. So that's probably also the reason why the marketing pics on Amazon look amazingly similar.
drftr
Manufacturers of PD chargers also need to pay for a Quickcharge license and most likely will advertise this feature then. At least there should be a Quickcharge 1 compatible mode with 5v 2amps, which works for the G6. I had bought a QC3 (not PD) charger which wouldn't work properly with my QC1 devices, so i left my trusty old QC1 5port 8A (total) Anker charger in place.
Thanks for that...
I'm awaiting the arrival of the Anker PowerPort III Mini. Anker told me it would support fast charging for the G6 and so does their C to C PowerLine III cable. Let's see how long they keep working. This remark is not specifically meant for Anker products but I've read many horrible stories about PD chargers and cables in general.

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