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Moto Z Force's TurboPower™: QuickCharge or USB-PD?

Does the Moto Z Force follow Qualcomm's Quick Charge standard or the USB-PD standard? I ask this because the TurboPower™ 15 charger outputs multiple voltages like QC standard; but the TurboPower™ 30 that comes with the Moto Z Force outputs only at 5V at a reasonably high available amperage of 5.7A, which look more like the USB-PD standard.
Additionally: which (if any other than OEM) wall and vehicle chargers available will optimally rapid/quick/turbo charge the Moto Z Force?
Thanks.

Driosenth said:
Does the Moto Z Force follow Qualcomm's Quick Charge standard or the USB-PD standard? I ask this because the TurboPower™ 15 charger outputs multiple voltages like QC standard; but the TurboPower™ 30 that comes with the Moto Z Force outputs only at 5V at a reasonably high available amperage of 5.7A, which look more like the USB-PD standard.
Additionally: which (if any other than OEM) wall and vehicle chargers available will optimally rapid/quick/turbo charge the Moto Z Force?
Thanks.
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I can tell you this. I have a QuickCharge 3.0 charger at home (USB charging hub) that will not engage TurboCharging on either my Moto Z or my Z Force. However my Nexus 6p charger engages TurboCharging on both phones. Odd... I am going to try a different USB-c cable tonight to see if it does anything on that 3.0 charging hub.

Driosenth said:
Does the Moto Z Force follow Qualcomm's Quick Charge standard or the USB-PD standard? I ask this because the TurboPowerâ?¢ 15 charger outputs multiple voltages like QC standard; but the TurboPowerâ?¢ 30 that comes with the Moto Z Force outputs only at 5V at a reasonably high available amperage of 5.7A, which look more like the USB-PD standard.
Additionally: which (if any other than OEM) wall and vehicle chargers available will optimally rapid/quick/turbo charge the Moto Z Force?
Thanks.
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Looks like the Moto Z force does not follow QC 3.0 standards. The reason the Nexus 6p charger is working is because it outputs 5V and a 3A current which is Turbo charging as far as Moto is concerned. I think our phones follow the USB PD standard. Reason being is the turbo 30 charger outputs 5V at 5.7amps. that's a lot of current but the voltage stays at 5v. Usb pd can get up to 20v at 5amps for a max off 100w. Quick charging is different in that it ramps up the voltage to 9v or 12 v depending but usually keeps current at 2a and below. USB PD tends to keep voltage low but ramp up the current draw. Quick charge will usually not see more than 3a on most chargers. If it does see 3a our phone will more than likely register as turbo charging. If not we get the standard 5v 2a charging. Bottom line is QC maxes out at 18w I believe. Our phones charge at 28w if you multiply 5v by 5.7a u get 28.5watts. This currently beats QC 3.0 devices which are all mostly 15w chargers hence why the Moto Z has the fastest charging out now. To increase power you either have to up the voltage or the current in amps. Different standards but achieve a similar goal.

I've tried all my QC 2.0 and 3.0 charging devices. Nothing will charge it fast unless it's the TurboPower provided by Moto. That pisses me off so very much.

I dont think these devices (nor the new Nexus phones) use QC or USB-PD. I think they all use something called USB-c fast charging. I returned my QC 3.0 charger and have another one on the way that claims to be USB-c fast charging. Ill report when I have it in 2 days.
If you notice the chargers for the Nexus and Moto Z phones are different than most chargers. The Moto phones have a non removable USB cable and the Nexus has a USB-c connector on both ends.
What I think we are looking for, and what I have on order, is a charger that has a USB-c input on it. I have a charging block that claims to have USB-c fast charging on its USB-c input. The charger I just returned that had QC 3.0 on it also had a USB-c input, but fast charging was not enabled on it. The new one claims to be.
So long story short you need to use a cable with the small C connector on both ends and a charger that has a USB-c port with fast charging enabled on it.

jsmuli2 said:
I've tried all my QC 2.0 and 3.0 charging devices. Nothing will charge it fast unless it's the TurboPower provided by Moto. That pisses me off so very much.
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Agreed...I even went out and bought a QC 3.0 car charger just for this phone lol
seh6183 said:
I dont think these devices (nor the new Nexus phones) use QC or USB-PD. I think they all use something called USB-c fast charging. I returned my QC 3.0 charger and have another one on the way that claims to be USB-c fast charging. Ill report when I have it in 2 days.
If you notice the chargers for the Nexus and Moto Z phones are different than most chargers. The Moto phones have a non removable USB cable and the Nexus has a USB-c connector on both ends.
What I think we are looking for, and what I have on order, is a charger that has a USB-c input on it. I have a charging block that claims to have USB-c fast charging on its USB-c input. The charger I just returned that had QC 3.0 on it also had a USB-c input, but fast charging was not enabled on it. The new one claims to be.
So long story short you need to use a cable with the small C connector on both ends and a charger that has a USB-c port with fast charging enabled on it.
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I'm very interested to hear your results
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I also tested a Anker QC 3.0 wall charger and in half hour it only charged about 20%. Not quick or turbo speeds...
Very bummed. I just bought a QC 3.0 battery, car charger, and wall charger and threw away the boxes. I guess I can give them to my wife who has a LG G5...
I hope that eventually there are batteries and car charges that will charge this phone quickly. QC 2.0 was a feature that I very much liked on my last Phone (Droid Turbo). Being able to charge at those speeds was very nice on the road or with a battery.

The only other things is I believe our phones are equipped with usb 3.1 standard. I believe this standard allows for up to 20v of power at a max of around 5a. But any charger that does 5v at at least 3a will pit our phone into turbo charging. I have a Verizon branded fast charger that does 5v/3a and it recognizes it as turbo charging and actually does very good. Not as fast as the stock charger but damn close. Motorola stated they follow the USB C standard for charging which is 5v 3a. So i still say it's a form of usb PD that Motorola is basing there technology off of because the amps our stock charger is putting out is 5.7 amps. The usb c standard stops at 3a without usb 3.1 which we have on our phones and usb pd to up the amps. I would love to see you report back with the findings on the new charger!!!

We'll all know soon. I will even tell you the amps it puts out vs the stock charger. I have a way to monitor.

To save y'all time. Look for chargers that output 5v at 3a. These will turbo charge your phone. Just like the Nexus 6p and Nexus 5x our phones do not follow Qualcomm quick charge standards. So those accessories will do nothing for you because QC doesn't put out past 2a. QC does 9v at 1.67a. multiply that and you get 15watts. Same thing as a charger with 5v and 3a. Multiply that and you also get 15w. Different ways of doing it but same end result. Verizon has a wall charger and a car charger that outputs at 5v 3a. It is also Qualcomm quick charge ready for other phones you may have. It also states on the side of the box that it is USB power delivery 2.0 compatible which I think is why it fast charges our phones. You're welcome

The charger I ordered states: "USB C Output: DC 5V/3A". This leads me to believe it will put the phone into "Turbo" charging mode, but it won't actually charge as fast as the stock charger which is 5.7a. Oh well, it's better than nothing I guess. I can still use the stock charger when needed.
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I literally cannot find any aftermarket charger that will put out more than 3.0 amps. I think thats as high as we can get right now and the Force charger is the only thing out there putting out above that.

Yea I don't think any aftermarket charger right now supports anything above 3a. Our stock charger has a thicker cable as well. Since QC chargers up the voltage and keep a low amp rating they can keep the cable smaller. Voltage doesn't necessarily need a thicker cable but current or the flow of amps does. For more than 3 amps the cable needs to be thicker for more current flowing. Our phones can handle 30 watts of power easily our stock charger outputs 28.5 watts. 15 watts is considered quick charging that's why our phone recognizes it as turbo charging. One plus has a charger that does 5v at 4a that's the closest I know of 20 watts. I would just like the stock charger to have a longer possibly removable cable. Our phones with 5v 3a are really charging the same as the other QC 2.0 and 3.0 devices it's all 15 watts

Back again, now with a bit more info. If the Moto Z Force truly does draw 5.7A @ 5V it follows neither QC-3 nor USB-PD standard. Both like to change voltages, but neither have 5V anywhere approaching 5.7A. Pg 471 of the latest USB standard shows that the max current delivered at 5V is to be 3A before being bumped up to 9V. QC3.0 adjusts voltages via 200mV steps (if anyone has a link to the official technical specifications of QC3.0 please share), but only outputs 18W max.
My next step is to fully drain the Moto Z Force, hook up the charger to a power meter, and measure how much power it truly draws until fully charged. I might have to make a measuring tool that independently measures the voltage and current of both VBus lines if further testing is needed.

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Back again, now with a bit more info. If the Moto Z Force truly does draw 5.7A @ 5V it follows neither QC-3 nor USB-PD standard. Both like to change voltages, but neither have 5V anywhere approaching 5.7A. Pg 471 of the latest USB standard shows that the max current delivered at 5V is to be 3A before being bumped up to 9V. QC3.0 adjusts voltages via 200mV steps (if anyone has a link to the official technical specifications of QC3.0 please share), but only outputs 18W max.
My next step is to fully drain the Moto Z Force, hook up the charger to a power meter, and measure how much power it truly draws until fully charged. I might have to make a measuring tool that independently measures the voltage and current of both VBus lines if further testing is needed.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere&hl=en
Should be easier and give the same results. What I use.
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I've come to the conclusion that the USB hub I ordered is as good as it gets. It has 6 ports. 4 ports that vary the amps up to 2.4a, 1 QC 2.0 port, and 1 USB-c 5v/3a port.

I really hope Motorola / Verizon / Aftermarket companies are able to come up with a charger for this device. I love my Moto Z Force, but with the battery mods, I would like to have a charger for work capable of charging the mod as well. I don't know if I'd be able to survive with the 3ft one that came with it. I went out and bought all of the 3.0 accessories and threw out the boxes as well, thinking it would work. No USB A > USB C Chargers I've tried have worked. I'm anxious to hear if anyone has found one that works.
I reached out to Motorola Customer Service, the person had no idea what was going on. I have a Quick Charge 3.0 Aukey charger at my desk, Ampere says it's charging at 4.341v but no turbo power blurb. My buddy has the "Fast Charging" Verizon one, but it doesn't say it either. Hard to tell if it even has QC or not. They did however load the official moto charger (OEM) onto their webpage. I may just have to live with this one. :/

The one I have on order will certainly put the phone into turbo mode. I don't know how many amps it will do but it will be at least 3. As far as finding something above 3, well I couldn't. I ordered my own USB cable as well (C to C) and could have chosen any length. My charger is a hub with 6 ports and one is a QC 2.0 port. Couldn't find one with the fast USB-C port that also had 3.0.
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Here's some charging stats for you. All in amps.
.25a - USB port on surface pro 4
.97a - Portable battery pack
.23a - Old USB hub on 2.1a port. (Terrible!)
2.5a - Nexus 6p charger. ("Turbo" shows)
5.1a!!! - Factory force charger

Here are some other 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.

fliptwister said:
Here are some other 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-...-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-Charge...8&qid=1470243655&sr=1-1&keywords=aukey+type-c
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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So these chargers will all "turbo" charge our phones? I'm particularly interested in he car charger...I have an aukey QC 3.0 that I bought for this phone before realizing it wouldn't do the job lol...
But the usb-c port on the one you just posted will actually work right?...
At home I'm not too worried because I generally only charge my phone over night, so a slow charge or short cable isn't a terrible problem
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Metfanant said:
So these chargers will all "turbo" charge our phones? I'm particularly interested in he car charger...I have an aukey QC 3.0 that I bought for this phone before realizing it wouldn't do the job lol...
But the usb-c port on the one you just posted will actually work right?...
At home I'm not too worried because I generally only charge my phone over night, so a slow charge or short cable isn't a terrible problem
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Yes all those chargers should turbo charge the phone. Not as much as the stock charger, but still turbo. If you want a USB hub with multiple ports there are only like 2 options for those. There should be many options for single block home chargers and car chargers though. The hubs are the hard ones to get.

seh6183 said:
Yes all those chargers should turbo charge the phone. Not as much as the stock charger, but still turbo. If you want a USB hub with multiple ports there are only like 2 options for those. There should be many options for single block home chargers and car chargers though. The hubs are the hard ones to get.
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Does the USB certification matter for the cable? Is a USB 2.0 cable enough or do we need 3.0 or 3.1?
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Does the V20 support USB-PD charging?

tl;dr version-
I tried charging my V20 from my Nintendo Switch charger, and it didn't just "not work..." it tripped the charger such that I had to unplug it briefly before it would charge anything again (even the Switch). Does this mean the V20 doesn't support USB-PD? Or is the Switch charger just supplying the wrong voltage/current combo for any device other than a Switch?
"I've got time" version-
The simple act of charging your phone has gotten overly complicated in the last generation or two of phones... with branches of QuickCharge (2, 3, etc), and USB-PD (Power delivery). Not to mention all of the sub-par cables out there, which mandates a separate search on the Benson-Approved list.
When I bought my US996 (unlocked) V20, which officially supports QC3.0... I stuck with all of my existing QC2.0 chargers that I had from my Note 4, and I bought a couple "good" USB-C cables in order to charge the phone in the car, at work, etc.
Now I have a need to buy more chargers and cables... as well as a powerbank for an upcoming trip to Disneyworld. So, I'm curious what methods I can employ to charge my V20. I have the opportunity to buy USB-PD chargers and powerbanks, as well as cables that are USB-C on both ends to use with those USB-PD devices, but I'm not sure if it will fry my V20, or at least not charge it efficiently/at all. I came to realize that there are some politics involved with what charging schemes certain hardware can support, what they're allowed to SAY it supports, advertising, etc. I even saw an article that the LG G5 (or maybe the G6? I forget) supports USB-PD, even though it's not advertised... so I thought the V20 might be the same. So I tried it...
I recently purchased a Nintendo Switch, which is a USB-PD device, so I (foolishly) tried to charge my V20 using the Switch's power adapter. It caused no damage to any device, but when I did plug it in, the phone briefly said it was charging, then NOT charging... and the power adapter wouldn't charge ANYTHING again until I unplugged it from the wall for a bit and plugged it back in.
I take this to mean that my V20 does not support USB-PD... but it may also be that the Switch power adapter is a specialized device that supplies a voltage and current combination that is ideal for the Switch, but my V20 finds to be offensive. The Switch power adapter is not intended to be "universal" in any way, so my short test only eliminated the Switch charging adapter as compatible... not USB-PD as a whole. If it would have worked, my experiment would have validated USB-PD as a charging option.
Can anyone comment on this? Thanks!

I've been using my V20 with the following USB-PD charger successfully:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y427WT7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've been experiencing much faster charging than with my other QualComm QC 2.0 adapter.

russnash said:
I've been using my V20 with the following USB-PD charger successfully:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y427WT7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've been experiencing much faster charging than with my other QualComm QC 2.0 adapter.
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Sorry for the late reply...
Very interesting. So, you're using that power adapter with a dual-ended USB type C cable? Using an app like Ampere or AccuBattery... can you tell me what kinds of current flow you get with the screen off and on? If it's significantly more than 2000mA, I'd be very interested.

I use a Pixel charger, which is PD. It has a wall wart and a 6' USB-C to USB-C cable.
https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_18w_power_adapter_2
I got mine at Best Buy for $25 CAD.
It charges my V20 quicker than either of my QC 2.0 or 3.0 chargers.

Fastest Quick Charger for V35 - Via USB-PD or Quick Charge 3/4

So I'm trying to figure out whats the fastest charging method for the lg v35 available so i can buy a new charger with that capability. Anyone have any ideas what that would be?
For USBC i'm looking at 5V/3A, 9V/3A, 12V/3A, 15V/3A, 20V/3A , which of these usb pd options would it work with? Also is this phone a QC 3 or 4 capable phone? Thanks
Trying to see if this would increase my charging speeds:
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=30948

My old Nexus 6 quick charge brick does nicely with a usb a/c cable

LG v35 is QC 3.0.
Neither or my Google PD chargers for my previous Nexus 6P will fast charge my LG v35, but my Huawei MediaPad M5 charger (FCP --> 18 watts) will. I think QC3 is a little more watts, like 22 so I'd get slightly faster charging w/QC 3 charger. Would really like to identify a charger that will fast charge across QC3, FCP, and PD. Not sure that Monoprice one will.

This device does PD up to 65 watts plus two 2.4amp us ports and also has one QC3 port. I love it.
Satechi Type-C 75W Travel Charger with USB-C PD Fast Charge, Quick Charge 3.0 - Compatible with 2016/2017/2018 MacBook Pro/MacBook, iPad Pro, iPhone XS Max/XS/XR, Nintendo Switch, Microsoft Surface Go https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078864F15/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_IjeHCbDSBEDB8

45 watt car charger

Anyone have a good suggestion for a full 45 watt car charger? In the car is about the only time I think I need the super fast charging. That seems to be the time I most often freaking out wishing my phone would charge faster when I'm pulling into somewhere. I've seen a few on eBay, but I'm not sure if they are legitimately 45 watts and also if they will be compatible with the Note 10 plus. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Whay are the specs for one? I got this one but unsure if it will support thensuper fast charging.
I guess ill find out in a few weeks
Link to charger
USB Wall Charger [GaN Tech], RAVPower 45W PD USB-C Charger Type-C Power Delivery Adapter, Ultra-Compact Compatible with MacBook, Dell Xps 15 13, iPad Pro 2018, iPhone Xs XR X and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H9WMW6N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_1TluDbHD1MP31

I'm looking for a car one.

Subscribed, wanting to know this to. Even for a 25w car charger at minimum

Waiting for someone to reply

just get a 45w charging power bank. but those are huge, big like the note10+

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just get a 45w charging power bank. but those are huge, big like the note10+
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I don't think its a good idea to leave those permanently in a hot car in summer.

Just saw you ask about car charger.
Ive seen some on amazon but havent used any

I'm going with this for a car charger and this for a wall charger.

Maybe, but prolly won't work with Samsung
Nekteck USB C Car Charger with 45W PD Power Delivery and 12W USB-A Port for Ipad pro, MacBook Pro/Air 2018, iPhone Xs/Max/XR/X/8, Galaxy S10/S9/S8, 3.3ft USB-C Cable Included https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075WQQG7C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_k91uDbF71BWP4

Whatever you get it will need to support Programmable Power Supply (PPS)
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/08/13/galaxy-note10-plus-45w-charging/

I am looking for one of these too...
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I'm going with this for a car charger:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07K65PG4...olid=13SRULXKEK9P1&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
and went with the one from Samsung for the wall

enginuity2 said:
I'm going with this for a car charger and this for a wall charger.
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Cozzeck said:
Maybe, but prolly won't work with Samsung
Nekteck USB C Car Charger with 45W PD Power Delivery and 12W USB-A Port for Ipad pro, MacBook Pro/Air 2018, iPhone Xs/Max/XR/X/8, Galaxy S10/S9/S8, 3.3ft USB-C Cable Included https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075WQQG7C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_k91uDbF71BWP4
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These prolly won't charge the Note 10+ at 45w. Note 10+ requires usb-pd 3.0 chargers with PPS.

Pathfinders said:
These prolly won't charge the Note 10+ at 45w. Note 10+ requires usb-pd 3.0 chargers with PPS.
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I'll talk to Samsung first...
- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA; Motorola StarTac

I think I could a car charger which has the required output for a 45w super fast charging. What do you guys think?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07115BLPP

i think the charger has to also have the vooc and huawei handshake chip inside it as well as PD.
otherwise most cheapo chargers will use the old usb-PD chips that outputs 12v/2A and not 10v/4.5A. most cheap PD 20v chargers wont even enable 20v charge mode unless used in a truck 24v system, because the cheap chips are not able to boost /convert the 14v of the car battery to 20v at high amps.
heres a $4 chip with multiple charge tech handshakes,
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32997568785.html
hopefully someone with more elecro know how can help find a cheap chip that charges at samy 45w.
this cheapo $14 one states pps - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33020251902.html

sonhy said:
i think the charger has to also have the vooc and huawei handshake chip inside it as well as PD.
otherwise most cheapo chargers will use the old usb-PD chips that outputs 12v/2A and not 10v/4.5A. most cheap PD 20v chargers wont even enable 20v charge mode unless used in a truck 24v system, because the cheap chips are not able to boost /convert the 14v of the car battery to 20v at high amps.
heres a $4 chip with multiple charge tech handshakes,
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32997568785.html
hopefully someone with more elecro know how can help find a cheap chip that charges at samy 45w.
this cheapo $14 one states pps - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33020251902.html
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So then it might be that Samsung is only selling the 45W charger separately because it has a Huawei chip inside it, and Samsung doesn't want to be shown as including anything Huawei-related in anything sold with the phone due to the restrictions in the US against Huawei? And how do you know the 45W charger has a Huawei chip?
- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA; Motorola StarTac

Found one
This 45w car charger says it's PD 3.0 + PPS. I've received mine from the official ebay UK Baseus store for £10.
baseusofficial.co.uk/shop/baseus-magic-series-pps-digital-display-type-c-pdqc-intelligent-45w-car-charger
I'll test it when my Note10+ comes hopefully on Friday 23rd.

KruseLudsMobile said:
So then it might be that Samsung is only selling the 45W charger separately because it...
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I don't know, im just seeing 10v @4.5A and im thinking it's like VOOC and other charge profile where the current is higher than 2Amps.
Im hoping its flexible and allows 12v @4A and such. either way im sure the handshake chip will be. ade cheap and cheapo $5 chargers will start to show up.
for $1000+ Hopefully the note10+ constantly checks the input voltage and disconnects the circuit internally if the source power goes bad.

I have two OnePlus chargers (one from my 6t and one from the 7 pro) and I'm going to try those and see if they work. If so, then I'm going to use my car charger that I used for my 7 pro.

Charger compatibility

OnePlus 6t charges at 3A with the charger that came along with it. If I use my laptop charger, it charges at 1A. It's a 160W usb-c charger.
Is there any specifications that I need to check before buying a charger that will give best performance?.

Don't know about OnePlus but usually it's either PD or QC:
USB hardware - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Quick Charge - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Don't think that is already too much, there are even more - my little USB tester supports even others:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/RD-Type-C-TC66C-USB-PD_62174263241.html
https://lygte-info.dk/review/USBmeter RD Tech USB Meter TC66C UK.html
Finding out what charger does what can be tricky but an honest seller will tell you beforehand (there must be specs!).