I want to talk about how disappointed I am about Elephone in general. I really thougt buying this phone (P9000) would be fun and give me more flexibility for custom roms. I bought my phone in august 2016 and was really excited about the features and hardware. Now Im tired about a phone running unstable on almost every rom. Not talking about the worst support I´ve ever seen. Im switching to sony...was not disappointed to see what able to do with there roms and hardware. I bought my girlfriend a Xperia Z1 and hey...strange it works..everything is running great. For myself I ordered now the Xperia Z5 Premium dual...
Wanted to say thank you to every developer who is trying to bring stability to the P9000. Sry about my english...
kind regards,
Benni
I have a P9000 for about 10 months now. It's an okay phone. I don't have that many issues with it, my worst issue with it: GPS is very laggy. For the rest I'm okay with it. Not overly excited though.
General experience that I got from the Elephone forum: The company sells phones with great specs, but their quality control lacks. I got sort of lucky with my P9000, but many have all sort of hardware issues with battery, bluetooth, etc.
The customer service is zero to none. My advice: stay away from buying Elephone
Yeah I can see your point exactly and can understand why you have moved to another brand. I'm doing the same very shortly.
I have been using my P9000 over 12 months now and to be fair my P9000 has been hardware issue free (thankfully) and as its been an okay phone considering what I paid for it. There was a time I enthusiastically promoted this phone for its specs and price point.
It must be said though, in order to get my P9000 to a state of being usable as a daily driver I have had to do many fixes, changing ROMs etc.. The GPS (as highlighted above) seems to be one of the main frustrations many face and although a software fix is available, the overall GPS performance is still pretty poor even after this fix.
It certainly wasn't a great phone to use "straight outta the box" so to speak. Flashing ROMs etc (for me anyway) wasn't a major issue but for the everyday customer who perhaps isn't into flashing new ROMs etc it must be a real frustration for those customers - after all it seems Elephone's main answer to most of their customers issues is (you guessed it) reflash the ROM or change to custom ROM. (which most of the time doesn't resolve the issue anyway!)
Sadly, although great specs for its price the P9000 has been let down by poor buggy ROMs / software. and if I may add poor backup/support & communication from Elephone. I think many who are awaiting the Nougat update are hoping most of the issues will be resolved (recent post of Elephone forum indicates they have addressed the fingerprint scanner issue and Nougat to be released very soon) and I really hope for the sake of these customers this update delivers.
And yes, I am so thankful for the time of the many Devs who have provided custom ROMs to make using this phone less of a hassle.
Good to hear you are enjoying your new Sony handset ;0)
Yesterday my new sony arrived... I cant find words how freakin awesome this phone is Thank you both for your opinions.
Have ditched my Elephone p9000
I have had this phone since its launch in April 2016.
It is a fast phone. The screen is nice.
It looks good.
However, it is too odd.
The camera is crap in low light.
The updates are unreliable and since August 2016, I can't update via OTA.
Elephone have cocked things up.
The battery life is getting seriously poor.
I can no longer link the phone with Windows 10.
SD card issues as well.
Because it is Chinese, SKY don't recognise it, neither do NFC certifiers.
I have a P9000 lite since 12/2016 and I can't say that I'm disappointed or anything. Flashed CM13 from Deepflex and it works pretty well.
Guess I have been lucky so far. Can't say much about the support though, but it seems like it's absolutely terrible...
I think my next phone is going to be a Xiaomi though, they seem to be better and still provide good hardware for a good price. So yeah, while I didn't have any issues with my P9000 lite so far, I see how many issues other people have AND the terrible support...that's reason enough for me to not support Elephone anymore.
Swapped my p9000 for a Samsung S7 edge and am delighted with it.
The Samsung is a quality phone in all ways ....the Elephone is NOT!
Oddly enough I will miss using my Elephone but not the company that makes it.
Goodbye to all things Elephone including this forum of people's misfortunes with Elephone.
On to better things .......
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Swapped my p9000 for a Samsung S7 edge and am delighted with it.
The Samsung is a quality phone in all ways ....the Elephone is NOT!
Oddly enough I will miss using my Elephone but not the company that makes it.
Goodbye to all things Elephone including this forum of people's misfortunes with Elephone.
On to better things .......
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What about the price difference? You can not compare a P9000 against an S7 edge...
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What about the price difference? You can not compare a P9000 against an S7 edge...
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Well on the face of it no ... the S7 edge handset costs three times what an Elephone p9000 costs.
HOWEVER, it is not all about that ... it's more to do with what I pay over two years and VALUE FOR MONEY!
The Elephone cost me £184 and to use it I had a SIM deal at £8 per month. Over two years that is £192 to the phone company.
Total of Elephone p9000 and two year's SIM = £376.
Now you can get a S7 edge brand new, no upfront cost for £27 per month for 24 months (and that is slowly coming down because of the S8)
That is £27x24 = £648 everything in.
Now the difference is £648 - £376 = £272
Now let's share that over 104 weeks = £2.62 per week more.
So for Two pounds sixty two pence more a week I have a state of the art Samsung Galaxy S7 edge compared with an Elephone p9000, which doesn't even work properly and is next to worthless!
My S7 is running on Android 7.0 nougat, I would probably be dead before Elephone could update me to that.
The reason being is that as of August 20016 Elephone rendered my Elephone p9000 incapable of updating at all. And they have NEVER rectified this for many users (and lost customers).
And if Elephone think that users are going to mess about flashing ROMs to rectify this, then they are deluded!
The simple fact is the whole Elephone p9000 experience was a nightmare.
I hope this helps.
I've been Disappointed in Sony (Z1,Z2) HTC One M7/M8 Samsung S2/S4 Note 2 and 3 at one one or another it is part of modern life you get sold one thing by BIG company's and in the end over time it becomes something else, The S7 is now over a year old Samsung will slowly stop supporting it like the S5 and the Notes the S6 is slowly losing support it happens get on with it that is why people come to XDA to fix things and extend the life of the devices.
How people can go off at tangents is a never ending source of amazement.
This is about what a useless piece of property that Elephone has rendered the p9000.
Hence comparisons are relevant.
Yes we all know support is conditional and time dependent. But Elephone are taking the Michael.
If you think this forum is being criticised and conflating it with criticism of Elephone then think again.
People shouldn't have to scrat about on xda to find fixes for what Elephone should fix for them.
i honestly dont get what problems some guys have? from what i hear about the desire to have custom roms while expecting everything to work 100% right out of the box? i mean in what universe do you live?
if you want something that "just works" buy an iphone.
Elephone and mostly all other chinese manufacturers are still at the beginning in making their own stuff, yet it is incredible how far they have come. if you take samsung as the biggest manufacturer - elephone can keep up. samsung support is not less horrible than elephones. but their phone is at least open for development and the manufacturer kinda shows emphasis with us customers.
tldr;
dont buy a phone for little money when you dont want to put some effort in it to make it work for you.
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i honestly dont get what problems some guys have? from what i hear about the desire to have custom roms while expecting everything to work 100% right out of the box? i mean in what universe do you live?
if you want something that "just works" buy an iphone.
Elephone and mostly all other chinese manufacturers are still at the beginning in making their own stuff, yet it is incredible how far they have come. if you take samsung as the biggest manufacturer - elephone can keep up. samsung support is not less horrible than elephones. but their phone is at least open for development and the manufacturer kinda shows emphasis with us customers.
tldr;
dont buy a phone for little money when you dont want to put some effort in it to make it work for you.
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100% get a contract live with it for 24 months and don't even bought with XDA, I don't lick IPhone but you have to say something Apple know how to offer surport but even they don't surport phone foe even.
I am not sure how £184 counts as little money.
I also think that if you buy anything you expect it to work and be fit for purpose.
I bought a Chinese phone for my grandson at Christmas for £106 .... a Cubot. I can't rememember the model. It is on Amazon and has an animal name.
It has not quite got the specs of the p9000. But do you know what? He likes it better than my defunct p9000. The screen is brighter for a start. The p9000 might have nice vibrant colours but the screen is dull, just like the awful photos it takes.
He has had no problems with the Cubot.
I had many problems with the p9000.
SD card recognition problems. SIM card problems. Awful photo problems. Battery life problems. Fingerprint recognition problems. Interface problems. Rogue phone dialling problems.
I also damaged the Jack port so stereo only came out of the left channel. Thus was achieved by catching the speaker lead in a door handle and yanking the plug out.
An accident yes. Not the phone's fault. But just how does one get it fixed?
There are only a few people in the UK that can work on Elephone phones because of lack of parts.
Whereas parts from the big phone companies are plentiful.
Don't buy an Elephone p9000 ... just don't.
On the plus side ....
Because of my mistake in buying a Elephone p9000, I got all the necessary impetus to get a proper phone .... the S7 edge.
Now I have a phone that does what I want AND I also have the Elephone that I can now play with and experiment with.
I can follow the tutorials on here and get it back to where it should be if the August 2016 update ****-up had never happened.
I can do this without fear of bricking it, since it is only a spare phone residing in a cupboard at present.
No way would I have attempted messing with it if it was my primary phone.
So now the useless piece of crap can become a hobby for me.
It's a funny old world.
My primary message is still the same ... get a proper phone!
At launch the phone cost between £170 to £200 depending, if you Google the phrase "problems with the galaxy s7" you'll find page after page of reported problem for a phone that at launch would have if bought cost over £600, I used the P9000 for over a year did it have some problems, yes! but my point being all phones have problems I have sat at my computer and complained about I come to XDA as i have for the past 7 or 8 years read up what people with a bit more knowledge than me have to say and have used that knowledge to get things working.
I would suggest there are pages of problems on other phones because more people buy them.
It's a percentage thing.
And I would suggest that the percentage of people having problems with the p9000 is 100%.
You need to understand that only a miniscule percentage of people want to or have the ability or time to mess about with getting their phone right.
Some people do and find their way to xda and can solve it.
So xda serves a valuable purpose.
But that is NOT the issue here .....
Unless in some bizarre way you are defending Elephone because people can come to xda and fix their wrongs?
There are two separate issues here ... one of which is Elephone is ****!
I'm not defending them i have nothing to gain by that, just not into attacking them either as as far as I'm was concerned i went in with my eyes open and I'm not willing to attract something that for at the very least worked the way it should, as a phone make calls send texts receive email that a few pictures (i have a DSLR) on top of everything it was cheap and that is why i never expect a great deal from it.
Fair play. And I am not having a go at you.
However when I bought my Elephone p9000 direct from Hong Kong via Amazon, I was excited at the prospect of a high end spec phone at a competitive price.
I did not go in blind.
I read ALL the reviews ... they were universally GOOD.
My expectations were HIGH unlike yours.
This was a phone to take on the big guys in the market on the face of it.
I paraded it in front of my friends. Clever me an Elephone p9000 and a cheap SIM deal. Wasn't I the clever one?
Except the experience was much different.
All these phone reviewers had never lived with the phone for a year Never been party to Elephone updates and the limitations that came with them.
I have no special axe to grind with regard to Elephone.
I came to Elephone expecting cutting edge technology at Chinese prices.
I got Chinese prices.
honestly i think most of the problems with the elephone are positioned infront of the display.
sometimes i'm not sure if i have the same phone as everyone else? my screen isnt dull, fingerprint working just fine, camera is also okay for a phone, my sim card got recognized from day one and the sd card also after formating it correctly. (at least the sd problem doesnt appear on a phone like samsungs cuz they aint got no sd slot).
and by the way... 200$ is a bargain for what you get! an namebrand phone costs easily 4-5 times as much.
your argument with repairs is the best thing.. "samsung parts are available" do you think that they are available because samsung phones never break or because the repair shops know they will need the part to fix the stuff apple and samsung charge you 400 bucks?
i'm pretty pleased with the p9000, especially because you get a lot for the money. definitely a better deal than a comparable phone from a namebrand manufacturer!
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Most of you are going to hate me for this, but someone had to say it.
After using the X5 for a few months, I've decided it's time to move on. Paid $300 for the phone at a retail shop and managed to sell it for $200...so I've lost some money, but I've learned something: NEVER HUAWEI AGAIN
The overall performance of the phone was good, perhaps better than most phones, but it was one of the most unreliable phones I've every had (comparable to the old Nokia 6600, promising a lot but delivering nothing properly).
From the day 1, when I first powered it up and until the day I've sold it, i've been expecting it to reboot or to do something weird. I never wanted a custom Rom or anything like that, but I had to try EVERYTHING with the hope that it will fixes the bugs.
This phone is for people with huge amount of free time and the willing to risk bricking the phone for any little thing...
Some of the bugs (crappy Bluetooth, mic issues, low volume in calls, spontaneous reboots, crappy wi-fi, not going to sleep properly etc) were partially solved by amazing developers like Dzo, Genokolar and Stockwell. They are the only reason why I didn't sell the phone long time ago, so thank you guys. A bit of advice for you tho, stop wasting time on the X5, it's not worth it.
I got an HTC Inc S now and I can telly you this: for approx $150 more, you get EVERYTHING working and 2.3 stock rom. And when I say everything, I mean BT working from your pocket, no reboots, battery lasts for at least 2 days and so on, without any root/Custom Rom or anything like that.
This thread is for the guys that started thinking that Android sucks and these bugs are affecting all Android phones. This is not true, so if you're unhappy with the X5, sell it!
X5 is perfect for it's value. They can't all affort to buy an expensive htc device, and htc devices with same price don't exist AFAIK, and the little more expensive are much worse from X5, plus htc' s support is zero(at least for these models). They never get an update, no matter if have problems. I had an htc model before X5 and I know the big difference in hardware and performance. I finnaly can really use my phone.
Yes, you can't have the perfect phone in a low price, but X5 is the king of low price models.
You're joking with the updates from HTC... ) I just had an OTA update yesterday. ) So, you probably didn't have an HTC phone or you don't know what you're talking about.
How many times did tap "check for updates" on Huawei X5 and actually had an update available?
You're confused my friend. Huawei is the one that provides 0 support, look at their website...pathetic really.
But anyway, this is my opinion...No offense intended.
Enjoy your crippled king of the low price models.
Unfortunately I'm not. I had htc devices from 2005-6, first wm and the last was an android. Neither of them never get a firmware update never. And I spoke for low end devices mainly not for all. I know about huawei' s support, but from the HTC a expect more, because I pay more and if I have 0 support(again thats not happen on all devices, but I don't care because the more money if there aren't for better hardware and performance and not for better support for what are they?).
At least with huawei I have a better and in fact usable smartphone.
I finally can make calls without crashes, navigation without stucks and crashes, I can finally hear the ringtone when I have a call, I can use device outside in sun, and I paid less from my last htc device.
Here in Greece Huawei X5 selling for 180€ at stores, so its the best choice for hardware with this price.
I know that Huawei's service is realy bad, but I ll take my chances.
A very cheap device with good (not perfect) developers touch!
If X5 gets CM official then will be support for a long time and gives to other developers the option to build side AOSP projects.
In finland operator sells it for 72 euro.. buyed it from sonera and thats is very good phone when you think its only 72e
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i have mine working without any type of problems for a week...
wifi theter bluetooh everything...
and one thing that i love in it is wifi and data connection always on and battery stands for 2 days... with a LOT of phonecalls even using gsm or wifi ( using progam called viber for voip ) that btw provides a unique experience in sound.
soo like you its an opinion, made by someone that cant afford an expensive htc device
and was using a cheap zte android model.
the diference is night to day. even my brother haves a iphone4 and really likes my x5 even one friend of me had a htc hd2 and trade it for this and LOVES IT.
so is important to say im using x5 with oxygen rom and latest francokernel and it could be better but wont be the same at least to my wallet lool.
dancer_69 said:
I finally can make calls without crashes, navigation without stucks and crashes, I can finally hear the ringtone when I have a call, I can use device outside in sun, and I paid less from my last htc device.
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I think you're comparing 5-6 years old HTC phones with 2011 Huawei...That's not the point here.
The point here is this phone is a pretend "high spec" phone, with a powerful CPU, but with **** components (BT, wifi, mic, speaker everything), that is selling at 180 Eur ($250). If you have $100 more, just get ANYTHING else.
For example on Ebay, brand new Nexus S with $320 or even a bloody Acer Liquid Metal ($180) is FAAAR better than the X5. I had the chance of testing the Huawei X1 as well, which apparently has a touch-screen, but it's an absolute POS.
I'm just trying to let everyone know that high spec is not everything (not on Huawei phones). Sure, if you don't need BT, or you don't care about spontaneous reboots or low volume in calls, then X5 is perfect for you. Otherwise, avoid Huawei!
i dont understand i have the phone made other to friends buy the phone, mine was one week in stock rom and no problems, now in oxygen still without problems, the other 2 phones are in miui and no problems. and our phones cost 160€ and if i have a problem just spend 10 minutes to physical store and send it to warranty. ive seen comparing prices in ebay its not to fair to do it i think...
i think the problem it self in here is like iphone users that can see anything else, same happens to my cousin that bought one htc desire hd in second hand for 270€ and new here in portugal i think it costs like 450€.
can you tell me its a better buy?
i dont think so... but thats my opinion im open to "new" brands and more competitive prices...
Perfect price for well running Android phone
katu2006 said:
I think you're comparing 5-6 years old HTC phones with 2011 Huawei...That's not the point here.
The point here is this phone is a pretend "high spec" phone, with a powerful CPU, but with **** components (BT, wifi, mic, speaker everything), that is selling at 180 Eur ($250). If you have $100 more, just get ANYTHING else.
For example on Ebay, brand new Nexus S with $320 or even a bloody Acer Liquid Metal ($180) is FAAAR better than the X5. I had the chance of testing the Huawei X1 as well, which apparently has a touch-screen, but it's an absolute POS.
I'm just trying to let everyone know that high spec is not everything (not on Huawei phones). Sure, if you don't need BT, or you don't care about spontaneous reboots or low volume in calls, then X5 is perfect for you. Otherwise, avoid Huawei!
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Hi,
Owning an X5 since 3 weeks, I'm running on official Android 2.2 and had no problems so far..
I've used Samsung and Nokia and their problems were not less than this ones', I mean Nokia had restarting, voice problems ect. but this phone works fine for now..
This phone has the same specs of HTC Desire Z (except qwerty keyboard) but is around half the price in Turkiye, and has a better GPU (Adreno G205 instead of G200, which is quite a big difference believe me) than Samsung Ace and is still 20 % cheaper..
Regards..
Originally Posted by katu2006 View Post
I think you're comparing 5-6 years old HTC phones with 2011 Huawei...That's not the point here.
The point here is this phone is a pretend "high spec" phone, with a powerful CPU, but with **** components (BT, wifi, mic, speaker everything), that is selling at 180 Eur ($250). If you have $100 more, just get ANYTHING else.
For example on Ebay, brand new Nexus S with $320 or even a bloody Acer Liquid Metal ($180) is FAAAR better than the X5. I had the chance of testing the Huawei X1 as well, which apparently has a touch-screen, but it's an absolute POS.
I'm just trying to let everyone know that high spec is not everything (not on Huawei phones). Sure, if you don't need BT, or you don't care about spontaneous reboots or low volume in calls, then X5 is perfect for you. Otherwise, avoid Huawei
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Yes, I'm comparing 5-6 years old HTC phones with 2011 Huawei. Htc TATTO is 6 years old? Of course not, but seems that it is(android 1.6 still, not powerfull enough to run any newer version, as HTC says, so hardware 5-6 years old too). This device have 240€ still in my country(X5 200€).
And I haven't any of problems that you mention. No reboots, no problems on call volume, no bluetooth problems until now.
i think theres no point in argument/comparison here..
if u like ur phone, keep using it;
if u dont, change to another model.. just do not try to discourage others from using it or more importantly developing for it..
i think the incredible s forum is a better place for u now..
farewell..
Never again huawei for me too. Thats for sure.
- U8800
Özgürce said:
Never again huawei for me too. Thats for sure.
- U8800
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why? based on?
I already talked about it in here, but i'll say again.
Please don't be misunderstand my words, i don't want to make anyone angry.
English is not my first language and i'm not good at english grammer too. =)
I'm really regretful for buying it.
I bought this phone just about 540TL = 300$. And i love it. But when it comes to "talking with the phone" it sucks.Other side never get a clear voice from me, and its must be clear than that. Even my W205 Sony Ericcson (its sagem actually) have a better mic quality. And i hate that. Other problem is wifi and i don't think its need proper explanation.
Its already talked over and over..
Camera is sucks too. Its not a 5MP camera. Its just like a 2M for me. My first W810 take better pictures than that.
There is none pc suite. Even the nokiapc suite is better than HiSuite!
There is none local site for my country, and not local support site.
They don't care english user. If you see the weibo updates from vice president of huawei and see his update notices in there, you'll see that, they don't care a make any english updates for that notices. @huaweidevices twitter is just make some adversites. Thats all.
I have this phone like nearly 5 months, even the 2.3.7 is out and we don't get ny official updates. And they remove items from they site too. I trusted huawei for updates and believe them to make 2.3 update. Now i don't trust'em, and even if its exist it will be 2.3.0 (i'm not sure.) And we will wait for other updates like a year again? I will not.
If stockwell, dzo or genokolar don't work on our phone.. I would sell my phone already. I can't thank them enough for that.
Well mine never had any issues So i'm very happy with it. Best phone ever. It would be very sad to buy HTC..spend 2x the amount..and at the end - still be unhappy.. but with huawei - you have relatively cheap phone with nice specs, maybe few bugs but those are very minor ones. I will recommend it to everyone who wants good low price fast (even 1.8Ghz!) phone
Never forget - only chinese in time of human evolution managed to make the things to be as possible cheap ant as possible good
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Well mine never had any issues So i'm very happy with it. Best phone ever. It would be very sad to buy HTC..spend 2x the amount..and at the end - still be unhappy.. but with huawei - you have relatively cheap phone with nice specs, maybe few bugs but those are very minor ones. I will recommend it to everyone who wants good low price fast (even 1.8Ghz!) phone
Never forget - only chinese in time of human evolution managed to make the things to be as possible cheap ant as possible good
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i agree in most of the things... its not the best phone ever but the best with a price for all living person... and comparing htc desire hd with it and htc costs 3x more...
its a ferrari with a price of a bycicle...
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i agree in most of the things... its not the best phone ever but the best with a price for all living person... and comparing htc desire hd with it and htc costs 3x more...
its a ferrari with a price of a bycicle...
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)))) A Ferrari with no steering wheel....)
I see where you're coming from but I think you got a lemon. I've had mine for better than six months and wouldn't part with it. It just works, does everything I ever asked of it and works in perfect partnership with my Asus Transformer. It's a keeper.
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)))) A Ferrari with no steering wheel....)
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Booom haha its almost like stolen a ferrari, it got some kinks but the seller wont help you fix em
Hi folks, let me get one thing out of the way: I have a 1+x and I love it.
But reading what people post on xda and on the oneplus forum makes me wonder: since when have we become so happy with unfinished products?
I constantly hear "yes, but they'll fix it soon" or "yes, but think about the price". I understand that we paid little for the phone compared to other brands, but we paid little because of the specs, not because of an unfinished software which needs to be updated over and over again.
And don't give me a "well, then you shouldn't have bought it" because it's not like when you ordered it, they inform you about the software bugs.
With the phone that will be used for 1 or max. 2 years, waiting some months to get the basic bugs fixed is an eternity. Also, that the company is young doesn't really matter, I rather have them do better testing, wait one month longer and pay a little bit more for a fully working product than having to wait for something that is supposed to work from the beginning.
As I said before, I don't regret buying the 1+x, I'm just trying to understand why we as the consumer lowered our expectations and accept to pay the full price for an unfinished product (me included) when instead we should get very angry at the producer and I really don't like the companies going like "the product doesn't really work as it's supposed to, but we can start selling it anyway and fix it afterwards". And why does this only apply to smartphones?
Imagine buying a car where you can't switch on the windscreen wiper, "don't worry, they'll fix it with the next onboard-computer update", or a microwave oven that doesn't have a timer function "but don't worry, that will be fixed soon", who would go for that?
Some interesting points made, but also nothing specific mentioned about the X and an irrelevant comparison against the car industry, or if you must compare, then pick something like built in Sat Navs which are ludicrously expensive and rarely updated ( or at least for a reasonable cost). Current car is the first car in 10 years i have owned where the updates are free and available when I want. But even so, I can download a free app that does much of what my expensive sat nav does and sometimes more.
The whole technological world has conditioned us to be satisfied with poor products for years and arguably Apple did a lot to improve things for all of us. I have not owned a single device of any nature where I have not cursed the makers for some omission that seems important to me, or failure to update the software or some inherent bug. Couple that with the throw away culture of those of who who have the luxury to do so and you have the current state.
So what are you referring to with regard to the x that is not working and waiting for a bug fix?
As you say these devices have a very short shelf life and an equally short design, prototype, build, test period. With an open platform and variety of hardware options, issues are inevitable and Windows did a good job of conditioning us to that.
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Hi folks, let me get one thing out of the way: I have a 1+x and I love it.
But reading what people post on xda and on the oneplus forum makes me wonder: since when have we become so happy with unfinished products?
I constantly hear "yes, but they'll fix it soon" or "yes, but think about the price". I understand that we paid little for the phone compared to other brands, but we paid little because of the specs, not because of an unfinished software which needs to be updated over and over again.
And don't give me a "well, then you shouldn't have bought it" because it's not like when you ordered it, they inform you about the software bugs.
With the phone that will be used for 1 or max. 2 years, waiting some months to get the basic bugs fixed is an eternity. Also, that the company is young doesn't really matter, I rather have them do better testing, wait one month longer and pay a little bit more for a fully working product than having to wait for something that is supposed to work from the beginning.
As I said before, I don't regret buying the 1+x, I'm just trying to understand why we as the consumer lowered our expectations and accept to pay the full price for an unfinished product (me included) when instead we should get very angry at the producer and I really don't like the companies going like "the product doesn't really work as it's supposed to, but we can start selling it anyway and fix it afterwards". And why does this only apply to smartphones?
Imagine buying a car where you can't switch on the windscreen wiper, "don't worry, they'll fix it with the next onboard-computer update", or a microwave oven that doesn't have a timer function "but don't worry, that will be fixed soon", who would go for that?
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Your're right, but I think the main problem is Android.
Everyone who is going to buy an Android is going to be a beta tester. None of the phones I've had was stable. Every phone had problems.
Oneplus must fix the main problems, but if the base isn't bugless, we can't expect that Oneplus or other producers can make a software totally free of bugs. (Ex. LP is one of the worst versions of Android, even if one the most looking version).
You guys are right! But i m still happy
I bought the opx seeing its spces, i knew oxygen os wil be a problem but still i got it becoz i knew that theres gona be a ton of roms for this phone!
But i believe its bad of oneplus ,to not provide a well finished(stable) software!
Totally agree with many of you guys. Dropped some "likes" here and there.
Really, waiting for some serious custom juice to flow soon. [emoji16]
So what are the problems? What doesn't work? Mine will be delivered today. Guess I am asking this a little late.
Well I can give you more relative comparison. I have both the base models of the Alcatel idol 3 5.5 and the zenfone 2 2gb variant and both perform pretty much rock solid. The idol 3 does have some lagging here and there but that is known with the 615 chipset. However all major functionality works on both phones. Asus as been pushing out refinement updates about every 3 weeks and marshmallow is due out very soon. Both phones are under 250 and with the holidays around you can probably get them in the sub 200 USD range. We could make the argument that these companies are much bigger and have been around the game longer. But we also must remember that this is OPs 3rd phone now. And that OP is run by a bunch of ex OPPO executives. To top that off OP had major dealings with CM in the initial OPO and borched software and updates. They simply have not learned and continue to throw out half baked cheap products. Forcing their customers into a "wait and pray it gets better mindset".
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So what are the problems? What doesn't work? Mine will be delivered today. Guess I am asking this a little late.
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Everything works, but there are some problems:
- proximity sensor too lazy when you are calling.
- light sensor lazy
- vibration soft
These are for the most annoying problems
Your points are solid. I wholeheartedly agree
To be honest I didn't have any problems. After one OTA the SD card wasn't visible in the System settings, but, at least for me, it was accessible. Since the last OTA this is restored, and there's also App to SD functionality.
Tbh, based on a whole lot of other devices that I've used, the response to fix even the tiniest of niggles has been pretty stunning.
There are so many devices out there with software issues that are never resolved by OEMs. Also, I've not seen a single major hitch in the software. The SD card issue was only a visual one, from what I know, and the update before that was a generic update to improve the camera app and some performance enhancements. I'd say it's good that the OEM is releasing timely fixes rater than letting the issues stagnate.
i dont get it
they cud have easily have given maxxaudio with opx but they didnt and as a result the audio output is not upto the mark
i am dissapointed with this
the stock equalizer sucks big time
Android is too fragmented to expect a flawless experience. Hardware is too widely varied and the manufacturers push for new devices too quickly for the fine tuning to ever happen. If Android controlled the hardware like Apple does , you could see polish and refinement. Too many models, too many updates, many issues. It's easier to make it good enough and move on to the latest and greatest.
My OnePlus X should arrive early next week!
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i dont get it
they cud have easily have given maxxaudio with opx but they didnt and as a result the audio output is not upto the mark
i am dissapointed with this
the stock equalizer sucks big time
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Really? The OnePlus X is (for some strange reason) one of the first devices to use the Ultrasound Driver from CAF. It's not about the equalizer, mate. The audio output from the headphone jack is incredible, and IMO you need new headphones if you think this is bad.
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Really? The OnePlus X is (for some strange reason) one of the first devices to use the Ultrasound Driver from CAF. It's not about the equalizer, mate. The audio output from the headphone jack is incredible, and IMO you need new headphones if you think this is bad.
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I use apple earpods and its still not good I guess I need to change my earphones :|
coolasnju1993 said:
I use apple earpods and its still not good I guess I need to change my earphones :|
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Yep you do.
Quasar said:
Yep you do. [/]
nd from where did you come to know that onx uses ultrasound sound drivers from caf??
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nd from where did you come to know that onx uses ultrasound sound drivers from caf??
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From the vendor blobs.
coolasnju1993 said:
I use apple earpods and its still not good I guess I need to change my earphones :|
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Dude apple earpods are the suckiest pair money can buy. If you love your music, buy new ones. Btw I got Brainwavz m2 and they are awesome
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Tbh, based on a whole lot of other devices that I've used, the response to fix even the tiniest of niggles has been pretty stunning.
There are so many devices out there with software issues that are never resolved by OEMs. Also, I've not seen a single major hitch in the software. The SD card issue was only a visual one, from what I know, and the update before that was a generic update to improve the camera app and some performance enhancements. I'd say it's good that the OEM is releasing timely fixes rater than letting the issues stagnate.
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Yes, indeed they are fast in fixing issues, but 1) we're talking about OOS specific bugs and 2) we're still talking about weeks, potentially months before it's all fixed. They definitely listen more to the users than other companies, but just today, I updated to the latest OOS version and suddenly there is lag when scrolling in the browser (NBPro, when swiping up/down it literally stops after just some millimeters) and the display seems less reactive in general, especially when using gestures on the lockscreen.
I've read about the same issues here on xda and on the oneplus forum and yes, maybe I can solve it by wiping or resetting, but I don't want to have to do that and spend more time than necessary on it, I didn't sign up to be a beta-tester for OOS.
Again, I'm happy I bought it and I will be patient (CM is close..) but it feels that with each update they fix some issues but create some new ones.
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The SD card issue was only a visual one,"
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That might be true, but as a customer I expect 100% perfect device since I paid 100% of the price.
First they sold a old hardware and software
Second they failed to fix any bugs and errors
Third they did not give a system upgrade to any market except china
Fourth Very poor after sales support
Fifth Still selling this device and fooling consumers in Asian and European markets.
Only a few people know how to switch to other ROMs, but what about the majority rest of people.
React now.
Sign this petition.
https://www.change.org/p/yuanqing-y...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
if anyone knows lenovo businesses heads, CEO, MD, mail and social accounts, PM me their addresses...
and dont forget, please share this link on your twitter accounts.
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Im tired of switching between these unstable and unreliable custom roms...
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That's a punch in every devs face!
There are so many people including me that are happier with custom roms then the stock cos 12.1 which.
Thank Mr.Coldbird for marshmallow and his fp gestures, thanks to @acuicultor and @OrdenKrieger for the great kernel and device trees and all others for the variety of custom roms.
Those people who are buying this device nowadays don't care about updates or Android versions, otherwise they wouldn't buy a device which comes with Android 5.
Everybody who is aware of the Android update policy knows that every manufacturer makes their own update plan and those who want fast updates going to buy nexus or pixel phones or an iPhone
I have 2 zuk1's, both fully stock and both working as expected with only one bug. Both are suffering from the "waking up" syndrome.
The oldest zuk has been produced in Nov 2015 and since more than a year my daily driver...the second one is produced in March 2016 and in my possession since a couple of months.
I don't see any reason to complain as I knew I was buying "old" software and lets be honest, the hardware still still fairly up to date considering the price range the phone is being sold in. What you guys want is a phone with the specs of a Samsung S7 for less than 200€ new?! Do you really think that Lenovo is going to invest its time and resources in a phone which is no longer in production?
The phone's still on sale currently are NOT sold be Lenovo but people/company's who are trying to get rid of old stock...
Paid 239€ in a Electronic store. Fair price
Jau the lack of 64bit possibility worries me but otherwise it's fine.
Thanks to the great devs here it also makes me more happy than a Redmi note 2 I owned (just not the Mi5 I'm coming from) But enough OT from me
Just don't buy a Phone you don't like, there is also the web to inform yourself about possible OS updates from the Manufacturer or not etc.
But to be fair, Europe support of Lenovo/Zuk seems to be 0
Hii to all Honor 8 owners :laugh:
I am starting this topic couse every here and there I find in all of the threads
someone complain how the Huawei don't care and that they don't update
our phone in a good way or at least as promised.
So, the ones which are compain, they say like I paid the money for the phone
I want this or that and they are not satisfide with the phone couse it is an all around good
phone but you know, no xda support or something like it is a good value phone but
Huawei is bad and so on and so on.
Now I want this things to be discussed in this topic...
What do you think, will we get the android O update?
Why do you think Huawei is the one to be blamed?
Do you think they will not keep with the promise they gave to all Honor phones
and the 2 year software upgrade??
Are you dissapointed with this phone or just with Huawei??
Do you think you are not getting with this phone what you have paid for??
And lots of other stuff to be discussed in this topic and thread..
Now to give my opinion.
First I want to say I had a lot of smartphones
I was having from LG, Samsung, Sony and some other phones and now evan this Huawei
The first thing I notice is you guys complain in every xda thread the same and
not being real not for once for any phone
It goes like this
I will never again buy an Huawei or LG or Samsung or Sony or other phone like iPhone
I paid so much money but not getting the full software support, they just don't care about this phone
Then after like 7 days it goes like this is the worst phone I ever had.. do not buy that phone guys couse
it has an overheat issue when gaming..
It is not good for gaming at all
And so on and so on...
Well I must say that you guys always complain that you don't know how to buy your next phone
or you want it to be perfect for the money you paid.. so you are not real..
So lets be real just for once, how come evan an samsung s8+ owner after one or two weeks is
complaining about the phone?? And the usuall thing, I wont buy samsung no more!! LooOOooL
Dont you go and read about the phone what you are getting and what you will be paying for?
Dont you come over to xda to first ask for user experiance but after some time you come to
blaim some company for not giving updates like you DESIRE IT .. like every month.. regardless of
the REAL possibility to have such support??
I had so many phones wich not evan had what now the Honor 8 has.. I had phones wich had no
support not just from the manufacturer but also not on xda like couse my phone was in my region
with the bootloader locked with no possibility to unlock it ever!!
And I was stuck on what I get out of the box
So, long story short, why you guys always looking for the perfect one wich will have it all
like the best build the premium feel and the xda support and evan the support from the
manufacturer and then not getting it and come to blaim someone after like two weeks..
Can it just once be like.. I am satisfide with what I got??
My opinion you should be satisfide with the Honor 8
It has after like 10 months more then some more expansive phones
Not to evan say something about the premium feel and the build quality
So, lets discuss it now and here what you think overall of it.. not in every other topic..
Software Update Policy for the Honor 5x and 8
Software Update Policy for the Honor 5x and 8
Posting this first will promote a better and more productive discussion.
BTW, the last time the Honor 8 FDR-L04/L14 were up-to-date with security patches was October 2016 when Huawei released B162 firmware. December security patch was released in February and that's the latest official we've got so far. Now the still to be released B385 update will bring us just up to March's patch.
I'm starting to see a pattern here now and is not good.
Hii @Dominikrod
Thanks for the link for the update policy
And yes it is not updated that fast.. like getting the march security in the late april or start of may
But is it really something to complain so much of it like some of users do?
What I want to say this is a very good phone not just for the price but it has right now more than some phones priced this much like the samsung A5 2016/2017 phones..
And I do belive that we will get not just the android O but also the needed support for it.. my opinion is it is like only 10 months on the marked and I think that Huawei is going to at some later point give the source code and needed support.. I am thinking thay just dont wont to give it all right at the very beginig of the phone.. so I always say the best is yet to come.. or It will be for me disapointed as some of you already are..
So I am still hoping
Thanks for your reply @Dominikrod. If what is actually going on is "the best possible" from Honor, then they are really bad at that.
People will always find something to complain about, but in this case, it is something that they (Honor) promised and they are not fulfilling. Imagine unboxing your phone and notice it have an inferior processor or half the RAM as announced. May be a little exaggerated, by I feel I'm not getting all that was promised.
I got this phone expecting to use great custom roms because of the XDA-Honor collaboration, which just seem like a scam from Honor by not releasing the kernel source.
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Thanks for your reply @Dominikrod. If what is actually going on is "the best possible" from Honor, then they are really bad at that.
People will always find something to complain about, but in this case, it is something that they (Honor) promised and they are not fulfilling. Imagine unboxing your phone and notice it have an inferior processor or half the RAM as announced. May be a little exaggerated, by I feel I'm not getting all that was promised.
I got this phone expecting to use great custom roms because of the XDA-Honor collaboration, which just seem like a scam from Honor by not releasing the kernel source.
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Hii @fernandoarafat
And yes if it is the best possible wich is Huawei doing right now I think
it is still good enough but thats just my opinion
But yes I do see that this promise thing you all are saying made you all disappointed
in Huawei..
But nobody is saying if they ever gave a time limit like when they will be releasing anything
to the XDA community... all I hear is no more Huawei I wont be buying anymore phones from Huawei
or the other stuff you are disaappointed..
I just have an idea... like if Huawei had talked first with someone who was in charge from the XDA community..
And some of us ( as I know some developers ) were contacting Huawei..
Why don't we ask the ''someone'' from XDA community ( who made this agreement with Huawei )
to ask for all the Huawei owners here on XDA what is going on??
I think we should ask for what is promised and ask
for some answers or some time limit when some of things will happen.
Anybody more intrested?? Or maybe did anybody already spoke to someone
and has already some info regarding this??
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Don't know if you remember this one but this is almost laughable!
This was Taylor speaking about their new Software Update Policy.
Taylor Wimberly, a customer acquisition manager at Huawei Technologies (which owns Honor), has even gone so far as to challenge other manufacturers to follow Honor's example. "I hope that by announcing this policy that we can change the industry for the better. Seriously, all OEMs should be doing this and I welcome them to join us."
I just tried to contact the XDA community
But after asking the things I was.. and hitting the red SEND button
to send my message to them.. well it just was sending and sending it forever..
So, I have saved the text in my notepad and will try later to send it
Or some other day..
If I succeed and if I get an answer I will report this back to all of you
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And I do belive that we will get not just the android O but also the needed support for it.. my opinion is it is like only 10 months on the marked and I think that Huawei is going to at some later point give the source code and needed support.. I am thinking thay just dont wont to give it all right at the very beginig of the phone.. so I always say the best is yet to come.. or It will be for me disapointed as some of you already are..
So I am still hoping
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Hi brljak83,
I'm not sure a 10 month-old phone counts as new device in this market, it's more of a passing one. The truth is that Huawei started quite nicely at the beginning but everything went down hill after November of last year. If you remember this phone was announced back in July/August and Huawei made all sort of PR stunts to convince prospect buyers that their product was the best choice in the $400 to $450 range, at least here in the USA market. I went ahead and bought for myself the $450 Honor 8 64GB at the beginning of that campaign. The Oneplus 3 was $399 at that time, but I wasn't happy with the way OnePlus treated OP2 and OPX owners, so I didn't wanted to do business with them anymore even though the OP3 was an amazing device for the price. Then OnePlus 3T happened and Huawei coudn't justify the overpriced H8 pricing strategy so retailers started discounting the Honor back in November. Some people may argue that H8 was not competing with the 5.5" screen phones but if you read carefully from the beginning that was their intention all alone. Actually some reviews I read compared it mostly with the OP3 and the Axon 7 since those phones are in the same price range or were.
Now mid May 2017, the OP3/3t and the Axon 7 64GB have Android 7.1.1 since April, plus both phones have been getting more frequent security update patches than the H8. And where are we? Still stuck with Android 7.0, December's Security Patch, battery drain issues and some old bugs that have not been fixed yet.
Now you tell me if Taylor Wimberly's August comment about other manufacturers should follow their example and commitment doesn't seem totally laughable.
What about this?
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
fernandoarafat said:
What about this?
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
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"Next prize giveaway date: new rules and prizes coming in the spring!"
Wonder if that it's still valid?
Thanks for this one
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What about this?
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
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Hii
Thanks you for that link
I tried last night to contact the XDA community to get some answers
But it failed..
Thanks to you I got someone to contact regarding the partnership
When and if I get an answer I will post it and report it back to all of you
So that all of you will know what has been told to me
Thanks for the help :highfive:
No, I'm not happy.
I didn't buy this phone because of any xda partnership. I only found out about it after. Great!
I bought it because I liked Huawei devices, and despite EMUI being a pain sometimes, it had a lot of features that I did like.
What I did not expect was the endless amount of bugs and issues.
And now, I don't mind a few, it happens. I'm even happy we got an update to 7.0, even if they should have given us 7.1.
What I don't like is going MONTHS without a dime big patch.
Not to mention, due to "low sales", they're going to be pulling out of the US, so all of us will lose all support for our devices.
So no, forget it. I'm voting with my wallet and not buying another Huawei.
And you're right, everyone does say that. But I don't buy Samsung because of their terrible software and bloat. I don't buy LGs because of their bootlooping, and now I won't buy Huawei because of their piss poor support.
It's not about finding the "perfect phone" it's about finding a company that cares at least a little bit in fixing their bugs and meeting their commitments.
Which Huawei clearly isn't doing.
Hii @SolarisSixth
Well, it is your opinion for this phone and I do respect it..
But for me I am not bothered so much by some of the bugs.. And I have them too..
And what I would say to you as an advice from my own experiance becouse I had a lots of phones
like LG or Samsung or Sony or iPhone it is always the same story
Belive me always they say bad or week support I wont buy it again..
So you will have to choose your next phone wisely not to end disappointed again in the same way..
Do a lot of reading about your next phone couse otherwise you will end up again disappointed
Why
Couse it is by all of them the same way and the same treatment
The only thing what I know is for the very most expensive phones ( Flagships ) they get a bit more
treatment and a faster treatment couse it is the best company gives to the customers and it is
the phone that represents the company as the best one they have for that year.. and then you get
a bit better support for bugs and stuff.. couse they dont want to be bad by giving the most expensive one
wich should represent the best face of the company
So if money is not an issue for you and you already choose with your wallet then go for the
most expensive one and still if you get such a phone still be happy with what you get..
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
However, kernel source release, which Honor tells us will happen in the near future for the Honor 8
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:laugh: There is a broad definition about "near future". Also, legally they HAVE to share kernel source, but who cares about the law anyway?
I have also a Honor 7. They stop supporting roughly 1 year after release. No source code, no Nougat update. I thought they improved something, but apparently no. What a sucker!
It's up to anyone to deal in whatever manner they see fit with Huawei/Honor false promises. What is not debatable is if it's fair to demand for those promises being kept.
I'm not expecting anything besides what the brand promised. And for that I cannot be pointed as being over-demanding or wanting the impossible.
I was afraid of ZTE Axon support but apparently they lead the game, a long with OP and Sony. And given the lottery regarding quality of components Huawei P10, it's just all a big red flag not to spend a cent with the brand.
For now, I will keep the H8 and milk it as much as I can, until I see fit to change. For another brand, obviously.
So here I am to report it back to all of you
This maybe some good news afterall..maybe
It is regarding the partnership with XDA and to give the source code to us.
Read more in the link below
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546
Well, i bought this phone at the end of March, this year. I bought it for 329€ on Amazon, and for that price at this specs i think it'a a very good phone, also considering that other similar phones costs even double this price sometimes. Afrer this i tried the phone and i just love it now. Fast, superb fingerprint sensor, good camera, good in gaming etc. The only thing i complain for is the GPU, could be better... However, talking about the software and updates, i think that we will get at least 7.1.1 (if Honor respect their promises). I'm not just talking however, i got in touch with Honor USA on Twitter and that's what they told me:
http://imgur.com/a/OSmLv Screen 1
http://imgur.com/a/RBBFb Screen 2
Ps. The first screen is from a pic that i saw on internet, related to another conversation with Honor USA (not mine). I just sent them this pic and tried to get a confirm from them...wich in the 50% maybe they gave me. Now i don't know if they will relase Android 7.1.1 with EMUI 5.1 someday, but i hope to see it. No hopes for Android O however...
What do you think?
Hii @Giuskiller
I think it will be supported
Just read the link in the post above yours..
I got a private message about the partnership with XDA
And the promise to support our phone with source code and more
Just read it in the link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546
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Hii @Giuskiller
I think it will be supported
Just read the link in the post above yours..
I got a private message about the partnership with XDA
And the promise to support our phone with source code and more
Just read it in the link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546
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Hi, i was talking about official updates, not XDA related. However, nice to hear that
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No, I'm not happy.
I didn't buy this phone because of any xda partnership. I only found out about it after. Great!
I bought it because I liked Huawei devices, and despite EMUI being a pain sometimes, it had a lot of features that I did like.
What I did not expect was the endless amount of bugs and issues.
And now, I don't mind a few, it happens. I'm even happy we got an update to 7.0, even if they should have given us 7.1.
What I don't like is going MONTHS without a dime big patch.
Not to mention, due to "low sales", they're going to be pulling out of the US, so all of us will lose all support for our devices.
So no, forget it. I'm voting with my wallet and not buying another Huawei.
And you're right, everyone does say that. But I don't buy Samsung because of their terrible software and bloat. I don't buy LGs because of their bootlooping, and now I won't buy Huawei because of their piss poor support.
It's not about finding the "perfect phone" it's about finding a company that cares at least a little bit in fixing their bugs and meeting their commitments.
Which Huawei clearly isn't doing.
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Honor is not pulling out of the US market and this has been confirmed by them. Can u please specify from where u got the information that they r leaving the US market?
Oh and they completely ignored my second question ?
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Vote and post your comments on your beloved MI A1.
I should've bought RN4.
not regret because i have a feeling custom ROMS will fix all the issues we have. it's gonna be huge....
There are quite some problems with the phone but I guess custom ROM can somehow sort it out. For the price : performance ratio, it can't go wrong.
No. It will be very well supported by custom ROMs in the future I am sure, just like my old Moto G 2015 is one of the most popular devices running LineageOS. The price to performance is great as @soralz said despite Xiaomi taking their time on Oreo.
Neh. None at all.
It's the best budget phone that I can buy on my country, the camera is not at a flagship level but I don't take many photos and the rest is ok also the battery is enough for a complete day.
Off-toppic: @jglass071 I also have a Moto G 2015 running LOS 14.1
There are higher specification and lower price Chinese handsets available. Lets not pretend we all got a bargain. The dual camera is trash. The reason (most of us) bought this phone was for buttery smooth Android with first in line updates. This has turned out not to be the case.
So from my point of view I do regret buying the phone, as I could have had better spec Chinese phone (specifically battery) and flashed a custom ROM. Please lets not be childish and start asking me to list them. We can all use GSM arena compare tool.
Higher spec & lower price than Xiaomi mi a1 ... what a joke. The reason you chose it bcoz it's the cheapest budget phone with a good spec and much reliable Chinese brand.
Seriously ppl just dun understand you get what you've paid for. From what I see so far, ppl who ***** about this phone couldn't afford other than this. Pathetic ...
Sorry but you must have misread my previous post.
I stated I bought the phone for the Android One software. The hardware doesn't particularly bother me although it would have been nice to have a decent camera and a bigger battery.
For the price this early 2016 chip does the job and the phone should be good for another 6-12 months with only 4gb of onboard RAM.
Certainly a solid choice in this spending bracket.
Sorry you got so hot tempered with me about the phone, I guess you really love your MiA1 which I respect.
Maybe a quick browse on GSM Arena using compare tool? Always good to see what's out there. Of course, these options would be without the 'Android One' software.
Lol ... who doesn't know about GSMArena, I said that as I know you're unable to state out the phone higher spec and cheaper than xiaomi mi a1.
I'm happy for what I've paid for, it does what I've required and I'm sure there are room for it to improve. Unlike you guys being cheapskate, spent a little money and expect xiaomi to give premium supports. Late updates ended up like crying babies.
Some goes there are lotsa bloatwares and spywares ... for christ sake, you reckon Google, Microsoft, Apple doesn't gather users' information? Stop daydreaming there ...
It's a shame you have become so bitter about your failed investment.
Maybe learn to research the market more next time rather than take your frustrations out on others.
The biggest regret I have is buying it all full price, 2 weeks before the price dropped. No other regrets.
Name one phone with "higher specification and lower price" I bet you can't.
You're another non post reader. Look on GSM arena I'm not here to do your homework boy. Out of pity, I'll start you off with the Xiaomi MiMax2.
Lol max 2 is certainly neither higher specs Nor cheaper than a1.
Unfortunately you are badly wrong again. Mi max 2 is available for 'equi price' of MiA1 and with larger screen and battery.
Many thanks.
As I said, you may want to investigate GSM arena 'compare tool'.
Not at all.
Pure bloat-free android = bliss
No regrets! Good phone for the money.!
There are always some kids crying over delayed updates and "spyware", "bloatware",...
But really, who cares.
I'm satisfied with my A1!
That's great.
As long as you don't have expectations for Android One experience.