I've been waiting this phone for many months, but now reading through the specs again, I just realized that it seems to only have magnetometer in US. Motorola UK, France, Spain or Germany don't mention this sensor...
Is that correct? Will the EU version not have magnetometer? If so, what a fail... screwed Google Maps
Yes that is correct.
But Navigation will still work.
With car Navigation you wont be having any issues.
Foot Navigation could get tricky because it wont show you the direction arrow.
yzT said:
I've been waiting this phone for many months, but now reading through the specs again, I just realized that it seems to only have magnetometer in US. Motorola UK, France, Spain or Germany don't mention this sensor...
Is that correct? Will the EU version not have magnetometer? If so, what a fail... screwed Google Maps
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Hey, are you going to get the phone from Europe? If so, where do you plan to buy it from? I'm from Europe so I'm looking for a good shop to buy from.
Fobos531 said:
Hey, are you going to get the phone from Europe? If so, where do you plan to buy it from? I'm from Europe so I'm looking for a good shop to buy from.
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honestly... I don't know if I'll get it... I've had compass since my first Android back in 2011, and although I don't use Google Maps so often, when I'm in places I've never been, it's very handy to know where exactly am I and in what direction I am looking at.
anyway, if I finally buy it, it'll be in Amazon.
hi guys !
Well i'm also interested for the g5 plus but the only thing that makes me reconsider it is that it doesn't have a compass, but i wanted to ask is there a possibility that the European includes the compass as a hardware and through a custom rom activate it ?
another option was to buy the us version but i don't know the bands will work in Europe (i checked them and 2 to 3 bands are different for Europe)
best regards !
You should re-consider this phone. I am probably going to return mine. I never checked that spec because I didn't think anyone would design a phone these days without a compass. The nfc is a nice to have but I would gladly trade it for a compass.
I use it quite often with maps for navigation in my car and for playing Ingress and it works very good.
GPS fix is very fast and precise (better than my Xperia Z2) and while driving it always "looks" in the right direction, I never miss on roundabouts for example. Still, while NOT moving it is impossible to know in what direction you're looking, I don't care but for your usage case you will have to use landmarks to see in what direction you're looking (and the sun also helps)
Yup, eliminating compass sensor is a bummer, but still navigation works fine, still having a compass sensor would have been helpful.
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artdog said:
You should re-consider this phone. I am probably going to return mine. I never checked that spec because I didn't think anyone would design a phone these days without a compass. The nfc is a nice to have but I would gladly trade it for a compass.
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They seem to do this with every model now. Why does the Euro phone need NFC but the US phone doesn't. Why does the US phone get a magnometer and the European model doesn't. They even did stuff like that going back to the 2nd gen phones. I don't understand their thinking at all.
To make the phone cheaper to build. Personally I don't care for a compass and I've never used NFC neither.
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To make the phone cheaper to build. Personally I don't care for a compass and I've never used NFC neither.
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I really don't need either also. I have a Samsung Gear S3 watch that I enabled NFC on and never used it, so I disabled it.
NFC.... that's the main reason I got this phone
What's the reason for my country? Do not have a compass. Maybe looking for another model. At the same price It is not a difficult choice. It's very strange that you do not put a compass on the phone because some countries do not need it, you're wrong.
Why does your country need it?
I'd rather have NFC, i love being able to pay for stuff using my phone, it is really convenient.
Do you know, If compass is necessary for photosphere in Google camera or StreetView to work?
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Do you know, If compass is necessary for photosphere in Google camera or StreetView to work?
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Gyroscope is needed for photosphere but maps requires compass
Thanks. I thought that maybe it will require compass to get orientation of the photo, although it is not necessary like gyro.
But what do you mean that maps require compass? I already had some devices without it and maps worked, just didn't show direction to North.
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Thanks. I thought that maybe it will require compass to get orientation of the photo, although it is not necessary like gyro.
But what do you mean that maps require compass? I already had some devices without it and maps worked, just didn't show direction to North.
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Maps will work just fine without compass. Compass will only show the exact direction which the device is facing faster than the e-compass we have does. Still manageable though, isn't it? Infact, I've been using offline navigation for a couple of days now with cached data and using only GPS while driving and I haven't had a bad time with the Maps app ever.
psychopac said:
Maps will work just fine without compass. Compass will only show the exact direction which the device is facing faster than the e-compass we have does. Still manageable though, isn't it? Infact, I've been using offline navigation for a couple of days now with cached data and using only GPS while driving and I haven't had a bad time with the Maps app ever.
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Compass is good if you are outdoor doing tracking or what else. In everyday life this is not a problem. GPS while driving your car works very well, by foot you'll have some issue but after some steps and with more than 3 satellites giving your position you can use GPS even by feet.
By the way IMHO it's so stupid this lack. Can't understand, it's like the led for notifications. You have it but you don't leave users to manage it... Non sense. I bought it just for the great price/quality. Very good specs for almost 200€.
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Nice job... Telenav
Enjoy...
Sorry, before I execute this CAB,,,, what is it? Like a TomTom GPS thing??
Telenav is a Navigation tool. Unlike TomTom, it uses maps stored online, that are up-to-date and updated frequently. They use NavTek if you wonder. Check the details here: http://www.telenav.com/products/tn/
I use it on other devices and love it also on my Advantage.
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Telenav is a Navigation tool. Unlike TomTom, it uses maps stored online, that are up-to-date and updated frequently. They use NavTek if you wonder. Check the details here: http://www.telenav.com/products/tn/
I use it on other devices and love it also on my Advantage.
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How does it compare to Google Maps? (EDIT: Never mind, just looked at web site, and it looks awesome!)
What carrier do you have, what device do you claim to have? THansk!
Pay by the month for use? No thanks I will stay with Igo that way I will not incur any data charges plus monthly usage.
I think I'll stick to CoPilot 7
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I think I'll stick to CoPilot 7
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7? I have 6, and Copilot Live is at 6 for pocket pc. Yes, it;s great, even with the small screw-ups on the VGA screen.
wgary said:
How does it compare to Google Maps? (EDIT: Never mind, just looked at web site, and it looks awesome!)
What carrier do you have, what device do you claim to have? THansk!
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I run on many different providers ranging from T-Mobile, Telefonica and others. I have an HTC branded Athena (Advantage/X7500). Runs fine, as long as you create an account with them. I don't mind the premium since the maps are precise, up-to-date.
Review of TeleNav
OK, downloaded, put in my credit card (have until 8/11 to cancel) and... WOW!
Pros:
Very nice feature set. Best implementation of searches for points of interest that I have seen; makes GoogleMaps look downright clunky! One of my favorites was search for lowest gas prices. Can also search for restaurants by type, just by clicking. And the results seemed very accurate. Really, really cool. And the fact that it is live means that you don't have to wait a year for updates.
Haven't tested the voice recognition yet, but a neat idea.
Nice big buttons. Hi-res maps. Attractive.
It is surprisingly responsive, even when on EDGE. Although I haven't tried an interstate at 80mph yet. This is a keeper... NEARLY.
Cons:
My biggest concern is the routing seems a little "creative". I did routes to about 10 locations near and far, and I would say it is comparable to Mapquest 2001. In one case, it inexplicably routed me through a subdivision rather than the direct route. Then I remembered... Mapquest used to give me that same stupid detour! In another, a 8-9 mile trip routed out at 23 miles! Maybe it's just the area I live in, but I'm not sure I'd want to rely on it if I really needed to get somewhere in a hurry.
The only other gripe is that while the user interface is pretty, sometimes the menus are confusing. I would hit the Menu button and get a set of options that weren't at all what I expected.
Also, with MvRTrueVGA, there is a gap between the bottom of the app window and the bottom of the display where a little bit of the app below peeks through. OK, this is a hack, so I can't be too harsh about that. But wouldn't it be great...
Summary
Bottom line, this has the potential to be THE killer GPS app. It's not there yet, but I'm betting this will get better in the next while. I definitely plan to keep playing with it at least until August 11, in conjunction with GoogleMaps and/or iNav as a second opinion. I'd be interested about experiences others have had, particularly with routing.
WGARY,
Have you tried traffic function with it? If traffic info is really up to date and integrated to routing. $10 may be ok for up-to-date map and real time traffic.
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WGARY,
Have you tried traffic function with it? If traffic info is really up to date and integrated to routing. $10 may be ok for up-to-date map and real time traffic.
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Traffic really isn't an issue where I live. My only real beef is the routing. Otherwise, I would gladly give the $10/month... might anyway!
I've been wondering when someone would come out with something like this, but for me it's monthly fee is a deal breaker (or needing a data plan for that matter) because I almost never need/use GPS, so I don't want to pay $$ per month to use it once in a while...
Still I wish them luck and am glad to see them improving GPS.
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7? I have 6, and Copilot Live is at 6 for pocket pc. Yes, it;s great, even with the small screw-ups on the VGA screen.
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CoPilot Live 7 will blow you away - it is a vast improvement over 6.
When is 7 going to be made available? Do you know yet?
Beware of this product for the time being if you are UK based - it doesn't work, the program installs fine from the link but it is not possible to activate it. They have said six weeks (ish) before rolling out PDA compatability for Europe - for the time being its Blackberry devices only - Mike
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CoPilot Live 7 will blow you away - it is a vast improvement over 6.
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:-S You got me curious now....
I love the fact that when I'm on the road for a long period, people (family, friends, customers) can track me and get an ETA on when I arrive, since I put my routes in CopilotLive. Maps are rough on edges, POI are not as rich as many features. I love TeleNav and consider TeleNav Track for the bidirectional functionality. Will see when they realease for the Athena. It's the really the best navigation PDA around in my eyes. By that time, I hope Alk will release Copilot Live 7. Can you send a screenshot? PM me if needed, I wonder how you got your hands on it and when it's due for.
Cheers.
Hey how did you guys get telenav to find the gps on the x7500? It keeps telling me that it cannot find it and to seek a clear sky position.
Thx
i didn't not notice it requried data plan before installation.
now, how can i uninstall it? TeleSav is not shown in the 'remove program' list. :-(
BTW, i still love my tomtom application.
UK friendly GPS software.
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Beware of this product for the time being if you are UK based - it doesn't work, the program installs fine from the link but it is not possible to activate it. They have said six weeks (ish) before rolling out PDA compatability for Europe - for the time being its Blackberry devices only - Mike
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I have tried another one, webraska. I find not as nice as Telenav, but very close. excellent coverage in UK, Whales, and France. On my last trip I used it and found it just as useful as Telenav. Check it out... Webraska. For my friends on the other other side of the pond.
Anyone happen to know if this version works on other PPCs? Telenav hasn't updated their other Windows Mobile versions in years.
Does it work in the UK? Can't see how to use it?
Anyone got it working??
I doubt its running yet as Motorola Milestone still doesn't have it. Having said that, someone has managed to get it working on the Milestone using instructions from this site: http://jkkmobile.blogspot.com/2009/12/how-to-google-navigation-turn-by-turn.html
I bet you could use the same instructions to get it working on the N1
If google map works anywhere in the world, would'nt this navigation feature be just the same? So, out of the box, it will not work outside US?
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I bet you could use the same instructions to get it working on the N1
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I have tried this and it works on the Google Nexus One shipped to the UK. The only problem I have so far is that where | assume it shows the name of the street I am currently on it states "Unnamed Road". Apart from that, it seems to work although I have yet to try it properly as we have a lot of snow about and icy roads! When you zoom in, even the street-view works.
I can't imagine why Google have not enabled it for outside the USA with some sort of "beta" warning.
I have upgraded from a Hero and whilst I miss some of the HTC custom widgets, the Nexus has a beautiful display, the voice recognition is magic and an "official" navigator would be the icing on the cake for me.
apparantly there is some sort of licensing issue - google have an agreement with the people who provide map data in US but have struck the same deal overseas. They said last August that they would work on it...
There is a workaround that works for now (a previous loophole was closed by googles servers), albeit in a more limited capacity
I already posted this in the Tmobile US HD2 section but just in case you're not looking there... Bing has added Voice Nav with turn by turn directions!
http://www.bing.com/community/blogs...05/11/updated-bing-app-for-windows-phone.aspx
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/bing-for-windows-mobile-now-has-real-navigation-features
It appears to work really well for folks in the US... other countries ymmv for now. This is a great FREE app for Windows Mobile! Now I don't have to buy CoPilot Live!!!!!
Yes yes yes!!!!
thanks this is great
GARMIN XT and any not DATA plan dependent navigation is and will always be better than Bings, GoogleMaps, AndroidNavis, etc...
eenbox said:
GARMIN XT and any not DATA plan dependent navigation is and will always be better than Bings, GoogleMaps, AndroidNavis, etc...
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Never hurts to have a backup, and it does look very nice....
Its about time thougt that MS sorted our this US only BS, you cant compete if you dont actually have a working product.
sadly still only support for US, UK, Italy, France Still I use GMaps when travelling, it's just easier to handly then iGo and it has phone numbers etc. matching your destination.
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sadly still only support for US, UK, Italy, France
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The UK version is probably the worst app you can get for the HD2. This new US version looks a lot better and works to a certain degree in the UK but navigation doesn't work outside US and the voice search is next to useless as I don't say say "have a nice day y'all" on the end of each search (needs an American accent probably)
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The UK version is probably the worst app you can get for the HD2. This new US version looks a lot better and works to a certain degree in the UK but navigation doesn't work outside US and the voice search is next to useless as I don't say say "have a nice day y'all" on the end of each search (needs an American accent probably)
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Lol! Hopefully MS will continue to make improvements and add regions to the app... I'm very, very impressed with the new version and the voice input works very well for me... (I don't end my sentences with "have a nice day y'all" either , maybe the version you downloaded was corrupted, hehe).
have a nice day y'all!
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I agree, but... A) this is free! B) I already own a GPS but no longer have to carry an additional piece of consumer electronics along with me. C) I have the (unlimited) data plan anyway so no downside for me in using it...
ymmv of course.
For those who can't find the download link it's m.bing.com/download
Hope this will be of interest for someone.
I'm Italian, and as other italian owners of nexus one with the beta of Froyo, today we found some news
First, no we can just speak for writing sms and email, when keeping pressed the search button still italian speech recognition desn't work, same when searching the web.
Second, finally now we have the google navigator, we can input the destination just speaking and works fine, we can also search the web for something and launch the navigator.
This is of course a great signal, because in my opinion if Google will be able to offer all the services that are already available for the USA customers in the others countries, then Apple will have some problem selling his next product.
Why spent 600 and more euros for a phone, that is of course well assembled and with good materials, while with 499€ you can get a phone that has much more features? The free navigator is a real killer features that we really missed.
Ciao!
Same for Germany
That isn't FroYo development. It is just the latest update to Google Maps. Added 11 more countries for navigation and more languages for voice.
Yup.
Canadians now have access to the full set of map features. Took long enough, but I am certainly grateful!
I'm actually surprised we (UK) got it before Canada.
Enjoy it though, it's great!
Now more countries can follow asinine directions from Google Nav. Enjoy!
Last weekend I gave Google Nav a try... It wanted me to drive 5 miles down a country road and drive through a gated community rather than go down the main road 50 feet away and drive half a mile to my destination. Also one time instructed me to go down a 1 way the wrong way even though Google Maps shows it clearly as 1 way (ie: it knew!)
It's a nice program, and can't beat the price, but it comes with a large grain of salt.
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That isn't FroYo development. It is just the latest update to Google Maps. Added 11 more countries for navigation and more languages for voice.
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Yes and no.
They updated maps and navigation now that are going to release Froyo.
As I said they are now offering all the goodies of android also in other countries.
It's a good sign, to me looks like that with Froyo they want release a great product and now they can.
As for the navigation I'v tryied it a bit and to me looks very nice
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Yes and no.
They updated maps and navigation now that are going to release Froyo.
As I said they are now offering all the goodies of android also in other countries.
It's a good sign, to me looks like that with Froyo they want release a great product and now they can.
As for the navigation I'v tryied it a bit and to me looks very nice
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incorrect.
This has nothing to do with Froyo. One of my phones is running android 1.6 and it got the updates
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Now more countries can follow asinine directions from Google Nav. Enjoy!
Last weekend I gave Google Nav a try... It wanted me to drive 5 miles down a country road and drive through a gated community rather than go down the main road 50 feet away and drive half a mile to my destination. Also one time instructed me to go down a 1 way the wrong way even though Google Maps shows it clearly as 1 way (ie: it knew!)
It's a nice program, and can't beat the price, but it comes with a large grain of salt.
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Does this mean I shouldn't use the Navigation software?
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Now more countries can follow asinine directions from Google Nav. Enjoy!
Last weekend I gave Google Nav a try... It wanted me to drive 5 miles down a country road and drive through a gated community rather than go down the main road 50 feet away and drive half a mile to my destination. Also one time instructed me to go down a 1 way the wrong way even though Google Maps shows it clearly as 1 way (ie: it knew!)
It's a nice program, and can't beat the price, but it comes with a large grain of salt.
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Ahh google maps has *some* issues but I think you either have an old version, didn't look at the alternative routes, or marked something like no tolls. Google navigation has been awesome for me, the only thing its been wrong on is the location of a couple of stores... one was on the wrong side of the street, the other was in the next shopping center. It'll get better as you can report stuff like that, which I did, and the more that use it the smaller those problems will happen. I've used it for a lot of stores though so I think you might want to give it another try with different locations and check your settings. Also make sure you updated it from the marketplace and aren't using the stock maps.
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incorrect.
One of my phones is running android 1.6 and it got the updates
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Incorrect as well.
Your phone running android 1.6 did not get the updates. Google simply modified their servers to allow Navigation in your region/country.
It has nothing to with updating the Maps version on your phone. If you are in a non nav region, you can see this simply by loading a map with directions in the USA and NAV will be available.
But you are right about is not being Froyo specific.
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Ahh google maps has *some* issues but I think you either have an old version, didn't look at the alternative routes, or marked something like no tolls. Google navigation has been awesome for me, the only thing its been wrong on is the location of a couple of stores... one was on the wrong side of the street, the other was in the next shopping center. It'll get better as you can report stuff like that, which I did, and the more that use it the smaller those problems will happen. I've used it for a lot of stores though so I think you might want to give it another try with different locations and check your settings. Also make sure you updated it from the marketplace and aren't using the stock maps.
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Yes, Google Maps is the latest, 4.2.0.. And I haven't checked any options at all in the options, I actually didn't see any when I quickly looked. Only reason I used it actually was I was using a geocaching program which popped it up for navigating to a geocache so I let it do its thing.
FYI, this isn't a case of "geocache in the middle of nowhere" in case you're familiar with it, navigation to them can be tricky or wind up in the wrong spot. Nothing like that, I was actually leaving one place and driving to another one a few miles away and it was telling me to drive way out of the way down a narrow road then left into a closed gated community.
Later I was driving downtown and it suggested I turn into a 1 way street...
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I would say use it, with common sense. Just like any navigational software.
How's the navigation compared to other competitions such as Nokia's Ovi Maps and Bing Maps?
perhaps I have not expressed my idea very well. I thought that before releasing Froyo, Google wanted to make all services already available in USA, also in other countries. This make sense, because in Europe we missed this features, voice search, navigation, etcetera...
So why release Froyo without offering all the goodies also in other countries?
If Froyo will be released tomorrow I'll be very happy to enjoy the new software, but honestly I'm happy for the navigator totally integrated with the phone.
Guys, please post in appropriate threads instead of starting a new one.
Google Maps Navigation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698539
Speculation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696736
Let's help keep the forum clean and organized, which benefits everyone.
Thanks!
Is there a good, working, navigation app out there for 2.2 yet?
JD
I would like to know this as well... Copilot are apparently working on an update, Sygic Mobile Maps 10 hasn't got back to me yet (currently runs but with soooooooo much lag)... and Navigon is reported to kind of work, but looses gps alot?
So far my best option is Google Navigator... it does a bloody good job... only problem is the phone gets very hot - 45c yesterday on a 40 minute drive but I think this is what happens with most apps!?
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I would like to know this as well... Copilot are apparently working on an update, Sygic Mobile Maps 10 hasn't got back to me yet (currently runs but with soooooooo much lag)... and Navigon is reported to kind of work, but looses gps alot?
So far my best option is Google Navigator... it does a bloody good job... only problem is the phone gets very hot - 45c yesterday on a 40 minute drive but I think this is what happens with most apps!?
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Ndrive is Froyo compatible. They have a 7 day trial version as well.
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Ndrive is Froyo compatible. They have a 7 day trial version as well.
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Just downloaded... looks good so far... I will give this a spin, thanks
NDrive any good?
It's sad that Sygic has lag in 2.2, I wonder if it will be the same when the official release comes out...
I downloaded the Ndrive 7 day trial and its not bad, I like the horizon panning, although the UI is a little more cluttered than Sygic. I'm tempted to buy it at 43 Euro's ($63.28 AU) but the other half of my mind says wait until the official Froyo is release and maybe Sygic will be back to normal. There are rumours that google has OTA'd an update for Froyo to it's employee's :
http://phandroid.com/2010/06/13/rumor-froyo-moves-closer-to-release-frf72-update-supposedly-rolls-out/
Any news back from Sygic stewcp?
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Any news back from Sygic stewcp?
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Nothing!!! thats been 6 days now and no reply
Ndrive seems to work well... I just don't like the announcements... they seem to tell you your next turn around 1/2 mile away from the junction, which is stupid! Personally I'm not buying it and will keep holding out for copilot which I found to be perfect
Is there a comparison chart ? I'M NOT sure wich navigationsoftware is the best and I want the best
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I ended up buying Ndrive cause of urgency as it seemed the only option atm. I found this http://gpsreviewer.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/second-and-lastsemifinal-ndrive-vs-sygic-drive/ but a copilot comparison is missing. One the same blog there are a few other comparisons, I'm not sure how relevant they are to android specifically froyo. I also found http://iphonetunes.net/index.php/full_article/comments/routes_compared_-_copilot_vs_navigon_vs_igo_vs_sygic_vs_tomtom/ which compares routing for a few apps, but is for the iphone. Functionality differs slightly between devices, and I would call either comparisons scientific studies, rather reasonable guides.
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Does google navigation not work then?
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Does google navigation not work then?
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It does in some countries. I downloaded the latest version from US market (with MarketAccess), and I can add a Navigation shortcut, but I can't get spoken directions.
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Does google navigation not work then?
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Yes it works and its really good... especially as its free!
not in many eu countries.
brut maps navigation works in Australia though last I checked, there was a slight lag. As well as that, I don't like the dark background of the navigation app.
Any news about IGO Android for hi res devices (like the Desire)?
does Google Navigation work in Belgium and mainland Europe? And does the phone really gets very hot using Google Nav when driving for example on a 3 hours journey?
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does Google Navigation work in Belgium and mainland Europe? And does the phone really gets very hot using Google Nav when driving for example on a 3 hours journey?
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Works fine in The Netherlands.
thanks for the reply mate
does the device get overheated for long journeys?
for me Navigon works fine on 2.2
thanks for the info mate