OTG and charging at the same time on YogaBook [YB1-X90F]Android? - Lenovo Yoga Book Questions & Answers

I have a cable that works fine with my Shield tablet for this, connect a flash drive and power the tablet at the same time for instance, but not on this Lenovo.
Has this ability been disabled? and if is has, Is there a method to enable that in the software or is that hardware feature? I thought I recalled on previous stock roms on the Shield it could not do both but now it can.
Any insight is great, thanks.

It only works depending the charger... Doesn't with the included but with a 5V/3A Quick-Charge one...
your Shield has only 5200 mA compared to the 8500 mA the Yoga Book has...

jamespmi said:
It only works depending the charger... Doesn't with the included but with a 5V/3A Quick-Charge one...
your Shield has only 5200 mA compared to the 8500 mA the Yoga Book has...
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I've tried a couple chargers now with no luck. The OTG cable will power the lenovo or let the USB device work, but it will not do both. I assume the one included with my Samsung S5 was a quick charge 2.0 as it was a main selling point of the phone at the time. Also I was pretty sure the Nvidia one was too? However neither of those will simultaneously charge and use a USB connected device. Again this same cable, OTG plus power, works just fine on the Nvidia tablet.
As with my Nvidia tablet I would plug in the charger, then cable from charger to OTG plus power cable, then plug into tablet. Tablet would show charging. Then connect whatever USB device I need. Tablet will show charging plus use or mount USB device.
Any ideas of what I am doing wrong? This isn't going to be something weird like the Yoga Book is wired different than every other device out there is it?

MarkAllen said:
I assume the one included with my Samsung S5 was a quick charge 2.0 as it was a main selling point of the phone at the time.
Any ideas of what I am doing wrong? This isn't going to be something weird like the Yoga Book is wired different than every other device out there is it?
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Well I am using it with a cheap 3A/5V Amazon branded charger and it works just fine...
I can only guess, but it seams your external drives consumes more than the Lenovo Book needs to be able to charge... If I am not wrong the Yoga Book needs at least 2.4A

I have a MopowerTK36W-4USB charger. It has two 1.2A 5V and two 2.4A 5V. This charger works fine with my Shield tablet to charge it while still allowing me to plug in flash drives, a 2.5 SSD, or gamepad controller. On the Yoga Book however it simply will not charge it. The idea the charger is the sore point here is driving me nuts. Shield tablet will use it's charger, the Mopower, and the Yoga's charger without issue and allow for USB devices at the same time. The Yoga Book just will not work like it.
I guess I will eliminate this OTG plus power cable as the possible culprit next and order a couple different of those cables. I can't quite grasp this generic cable working on the Shield but not on the Yoga Book either. Anyway just isn't making sense to me unless the Yoga Book, again the YB1-X90F, simply cannot charge and use USB devices at the same time? But you have stated you are able to do this so I am scratching my head here.

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USB charging

I've noticed when I have my tablet plugged into my computer via USB it doesn't appear to be charging. The battery icon is showing a red lightning bolt. This is different than when I have my tab plugged into a wall socket.
Working as intended or..?
Your PC USB port can't supply enough juice (500ma max) compare to your wall socket (>2000ma) to charge while power the tab. Turn the tab off and your will get some charge off the USB port.
foxbat121 said:
Your PC USB port can't supply enough juice (500ma max) compare to your wall socket (>2000ma) to charge while power the tab. Turn the tab off and your will get some charge off the USB port.
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Good to know! thanks for your help
just be prepaired to wait a while to gain any % hahaha
Order one of these and then you can charge it from your PC/laptop... or any other USB port for that matter:
USB charger Adapter Cable For Samsung GALAXY Tab p1000
SacTilt said:
Order one of these and then you can charge it from your PC/laptop... or any other USB port for that matter:
USB charger Adapter Cable For Samsung GALAXY Tab p1000
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That adapter does not convert the power, as stated by foxbat, usb from pc won't deliver enough power.
can use this cable... Y TYPE USB CABLE A MALE to A FEMALE CONNECTOR 2 TO 1. enough power now? y can find it on bay...
ebk71 said:
That adapter does not convert the power, as stated by foxbat, usb from pc won't deliver enough power.
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It's been charging my tab for about a month now with no problems at all, but I'm not here to argue, if you feel that you know more than I do. I've charged the tablet using that adapter from my laptop, PC, and Energizer XP4001 Power Pack.
You might also search the forums, as I'm not the only one to recommend and use this item.
USB Charger
Have also use this USB charger Adapter Cable For Samsung GALAXY Tab p1000. Works great.
currently having thea similiar,but not same problem; bought this cable of of amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EAEQR4 and while icon indicates its charging, % is not going up at all, mayb 1% per hour or so... am ready to return it, but want to know if anyone else is experiencing similiar problems with a longer cable?
thanks
foxbat121 said:
Your PC USB port can't supply enough juice (500ma max) compare to your wall socket (>2000ma) to charge while power the tab. Turn the tab off and your will get some charge off the USB port.
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Ahh thanks! Was wondering why it wouldn't charge via my USB port.
(In fact using my Samsung Focus USB adapter for the outlet doesn't seem to work either... I need to use only the Samsung Tab USB adapter)
marcham93 said:
Ahh thanks! Was wondering why it wouldn't charge via my USB port.
(In fact using my Samsung Focus USB adapter for the outlet doesn't seem to work either... I need to use only the Samsung Tab USB adapter)
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The focus charger is rated only about 700ma (same exact one as Captivate/SGS), marginablly better than PC USB. GT 10.1 has a rather large battery and hence it requires much larger charge current. You don't see any laptop get charged via USB, do you?
jaoropez said:
currently having thea similiar,but not same problem; bought this cable of of amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EAEQR4 and while icon indicates its charging, % is not going up at all, mayb 1% per hour or so... am ready to return it, but want to know if anyone else is experiencing similiar problems with a longer cable?
thanks
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Is that through the orginal AC adapter or through PC USB?
Turning off the tablet and charging it via USB works, but it takes forever!
SacTilt said:
It's been charging my tab for about a month now with no problems at all, but I'm not here to argue, if you feel that you know more than I do. I've charged the tablet using that adapter from my laptop, PC, and Energizer XP4001 Power Pack.
You might also search the forums, as I'm not the only one to recommend and use this item.
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And you are not the only one who is waiting twice as long before his tab is fully charged. Then we can open a topic "Why does it take so long before my tab is charged?" As foxbat stated: You don't see any laptop get charged via USB, do you?
So if I say your adapter doesn't work its just as accurate as your answer it does work.
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And you are not the only one who is waiting twice as long before his tab is fully charged. Then we can open a topic "Why does it take so long before my tab is charged?" As foxbat stated: You don't see any laptop get charged via USB, do you?
So if I say your adapter doesn't work its just as accurate as your answer it does work.
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Hey, I'm not here to argue with you. I'm just an idiot.
Go about your business, and don't listen. I'm ok with that.
First of all, not all USB ports are equal.
On many modern PCs, the USB ports can deliver more than 500mA over USB if required. This is definitely true for pretty much all Macs since 2007, and quite a few mainboards from other manufacturers (see this article for some background).
Secondly, I've had one of these adaptors for quite a while now, and have used it regularly to charge my Galaxy Tab 7" which uses exactly the same power supply and cables as the GT 10.1. I can categorically state that when using this adaptor, it the GT7 does charge from a Macbook Air and a 5000mAh external battery that has a 1A output USB port labelled for an iPad.
Whilst it might not be as quick as the wall charger, it is definitely much faster than attempting to charge the GT7 from the same devices without the adaptor, even if the device is in use.
I've not formally tried to charge my GT10.1 with it yet, but I did check to see if the "not-charging" indicator went away (which it did), so I rather presume it will work much like the GT7.
Regards,
Dave
SacTilt said:
Hey, I'm not here to argue with you. I'm just an idiot.
Go about your business, and don't listen. I'm ok with that.
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You don't need to embarrass yourself by saying you're an idiot, It's very childish and the second time you mention I'm supposed to be smarter then you. I'm sorry you take this so personally.
i just use the supplied cable and it charges via usb on my computer. it shows not charging, but it basically trickle charges when the tab is both on and off

usb charging by your laptop or PC

Hi, everybody.
i just buy a samsung galaxy tab 7.7 and just noticed only can be charged by using the power socket provided by samsung.
now i found a way to charge your tab by your laptop or PC through samsung STANDARD USB DATA CABLE cable.
First, download the software (ASUS Ai Charger) attached:
Second, just install and enjoy to charge your tablet through use cable.
FYI, battery indicator still showing no charging but actually it is charging.
you can check after one minute by viwing the remaining power up.
Thanks.
Is this software just raise yr usb port mah to certain amount?
If so, will this harm the computer?
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My tab charges when plugged into my computer without that (or any similar software, only Kies and AOSP USB drivers installed). It doesn't show charging but the charge definitely goes up. Does that software actually make it charge faster? I have to say, I'm pretty dubious.
I would recommended getting the following adapter, I originally bought it for my original tab and was able to charge via the laptop with no problem. It charges as fast as the wall charger.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-car-wal...Accessories&hash=item2c5c07736b#ht_3171wt_927
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actually i installed this software in order to charge my IPAD2. below is the description from the ASUS website: With the exclusive ASUS Ai Charger, all of your motherboards, and desktops become universal chargers for your iPod, iPhone and now, the new iPad. Ai Charger turns any PC into a flexible power-up station for popular Apple devices through a simple USB connector, extending their usability and benefit in every lifestyle. Charging goes up to and smoother while you do your work or have fun – whether at home or on the go. The Ai Charger software is available for a variety of chipsets and motherboards from ASUS as well as all desktops, so just click and prepare for even more enjoyment! .
my tablet is charged well.
Thanks
Thanks for the info.
Though it must be noted that you need an Asus motherboard for this, my Gigabyte provides 1A front USB ports thats where I charge the Tab7.7 I'll try if there is any difference real world difference if I plug it into one of the regular USB ports.
I accidentally found out I was able to charge from my Mac without using this special software as follow:
I bought an external battery, New Trent IMP99D (Amazon Link) and it came with a special USB extension cable (picture below) that is designed for the Tab 10.1. If I plug the GT7+ directly to the IMP99D without using the extension cable, NO charging takes place. However, if I use the extension cable, charging works.
I connect the extension cable to my MacBook Air, connect the GT7+ charging cable and the tablet and... VOILA.. it's charging! HoneyComb even reported that it is an "AC Charging" and it charge pretty fast.
So you can either
a). Buy the battery and it comes with the cable
b). Buy JUST THE CABLE, model IMP44B (manufacturer link here)
3w.pisen.com.cn/picture/show/887.shtm l (use translate
I've ordered thus one. will see uf will charge the 6800 with the 30pin cable to computer usb...
If you just want to charge via pc you can turn off your device, this way will work.
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I recharge the battery using my pc all the time... just connect it with the USB cable and that's it... no software or anything like that... The tablet battery Icon does have a strange X on it but it still charges the phone (AHHuummm, Tablet) just like the electric plug thingy...

OTG and charging at the same time?

Is it possible to attach external devices to the Fire HD 10 via OTG and charge the Fire HD 10 at the same time using those special OTG+charging adapters?
wq0913562 said:
Is it possible to attach external devices to the Fire HD 10 via OTG and charge the Fire HD 10 at the same time using those special OTG+charging adapters?
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Yes you can. It's also helpful if you want to use a wireless usb controller since it needs the power boost. Here's what I use: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Left-Angle...361414?hash=item48830dbec6:g:rQsAAOSwMmBV5RRC
dondraper23 said:
Yes you can. It's also helpful if you want to use a wireless usb controller since it needs the power boost. Here's what I use: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Left-Angle...361414?hash=item48830dbec6:g:rQsAAOSwMmBV5RRC
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Thanks. So your tablet is charging while USB mice/keyboards/storage devices are attached simultaneously?
wq0913562 said:
Thanks. So your tablet is charging while USB mice/keyboards/storage devices are attached simultaneously?
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My pleasure! I have a bluetooth keyboard case. I mostly use it for flash drives and it charges while in use. I also have those devices plugged into my firesticks at all times so I can transfer video files easier and never had a problem
dondraper23 said:
My pleasure! I have a bluetooth keyboard case. I mostly use it for flash drives and it charges while in use. I also have those devices plugged into my firesticks at all times so I can transfer video files easier and never had a problem
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Thanks for the confirmation. I had been using this cable (https://www.amazon.com/Tendak-Micro...07828&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=otg+y+cable&psc=1) for my Nexus 7 I had installed in my dash, and for some reason it just doesn't work with my HD 8. Even with the USB DAC not connected, the cable registers power, charges for about 30 seconds, then says it's not connected to power anymore. don't have this issue with the Nexus, or with any of my other power cables, but that's the only OTG angle cable I have.
I'll try the one you use, but I'll have to use a Micro USB angled extension to make it fit in the dash. Unless someone else knows of an OTG y cable with an angled plug that actually works for the HD 8?
Update: I've bought two additional otg cables from Amazon, and one will work for the usb device, but doesn't charge the tablet, the other charges the tablet, but won't work for the usb device. After testing both of these several times, they both started to have the same behavior as my other one, it shows charging for a few seconds, then stops, but continues to power the usb device. If I connect a normal power cable it will stay in "fully charged" mode forever and Automate reports power is connected. I'm starting to get really frustrated. I'm pretty sure it is actually charging, because when I left it connected like that for an hour, it never moved from 85%, but then as soon as I plugged in a normal charging cable it started "charging" at about 6% per minute, and said 100% within 3 minutes. Not even a QC 3.0 can do that. I'm so confused.

OTG cable for Fire HD 8 that DOES support charging ?

I got a Fire HD 8 tablet with Carplaylink to get Apple CarPlay working in an old car I use. I need a USB OTG cable that DOES support charging an Android tablet.
I did a 20-30 minute search myself and all the USB OTG cables I’ve seen openly stated that charging for Android tablets and phones are not supported.
Any suggestions ?
ahmadka said:
I got a Fire HD 8 tablet with Carplaylink to get Apple CarPlay working in an old car I use. I need a USB OTG cable that DOES support charging an Android tablet.
I did a 20-30 minute search myself and all the USB OTG cables I’ve seen openly stated that charging for Android tablets and phones are not supported.
Any suggestions ?
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Can you use an USB-OTG while charging. Can you find a charging contact point with VCHG, open your Fire tablet, find VCHG contact point and measure the VCHG contact point using the voltmeter.
The USB-OTG with microUSB port input can be used for Fire TV Stick.
I had one cable that did exactly this a few years ago and I for the life of me don't know what happened to it. now when it comes to OTG you should just have a separate piece of the cable splitting off that you would plug into the wall yeah and the rest of the wiring would make its way where it needs to. now here's where the tricky part comes in terms of whether a device supports charging through USB OTG. I know the fire tablets support this because you may not be using adb or OTG for any particular reason, and your tablet will charge whatever it is plugged into with that cable. If the OTG cable is built properly then theoretically it should charge your tablet as well. But really good and decent cables are hard to come by, that aren't really expensive. however when it comes to something like this I would stay closer to a name brand because you can get ripped off pretty easily even if you read the fine print and find out that it doesn't do what it says. There are no real big laws or regulations behind the cheap charger and wire industry, so you pretty much get what you pay for. It's just a matter of finding the right one.

Charge and use USB Ethernet

Ok, I'll try to explain the situation I have here:
I own a Moto Z Force with Moto Snap Projector and it's a great device to do stuff. Since I don't use it as a phone anymore, I can use it as a media player (Kodi, Netflix, Amazon...), videogames (Snapdragon 820 is awesome for emulators) and streaming console (PS4, PS3, Xbox One, Geforce Now and Steam).
What I want is use USB Ethernet and charge it at the same time. I bought an USB-C Hub, with a port for charging, but it didn't work. Since the projector is plugged on it, it has 2 USB-C ports, so I plug the charger on the projector port and it starts to charge. When I plug, for example, a thumb drive on the other USB-C, the original port for charging, the charger stops charging and it'll read the thumb drive.
The point is: I can't read the thumb drive and charge the cellphone battery at the same time. Any ideas why?! Any ideas what I must do in order to charge it and use USB LAN Ethernet at the same time on it?
Thanks a lot!

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