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Samsung's Always On is honestly trash in comparison. It basically shows me the time and that's it. Motorola's shows the time and ALL your missed notifications as well as the ability to quickly get a preview of the notifications without having to unlock your phone.
I really hope Samsung fixes this when they release Android N.
In the meantime, does anyone know of a third-party app similar to Motorola's Active Display?
It seems like most android fans GREATLY overestimate what third party apps can do. A lot of important features on phones require a level of hardware-software integration you're just not going to get from anywhere other than the manufacturer of your phone.
Always oh displays is one such example. Having an amoled display is far from being able to just use it always on. The standby power consumption would be prohibitive.
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It seems like most android fans GREATLY overestimate what third party apps can do. A lot of important features on phones require a level of hardware-software integration you're just not going to get from anywhere other than the manufacturer of your phone.
Always oh displays is one such example. Having an amoled display is far from being able to just use it always on. The standby power consumption would be prohibitive.
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What do you mean? The AOD is just a piece of software which wakes every minute and changes the screen. The screen is amoled. It doesn't matter which app it uses.
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What do you mean? The AOD is just a piece of software which wakes every minute and changes the screen. The screen is amoled. It doesn't matter which app it uses.
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Yes it is just a piece of software, it's not magic that's for sure. However it isn't something you'll ever find a replacement in the Play Store.
Just like no Playstore camera app is even close to the stock camera app from any of the reputable manufacturers like Samsung, LG, HTC or Huawei.
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Yes it is just a piece of software, it's not magic that's for sure. However it isn't something you'll ever find a replacement in the Play Store.
Just like no Playstore camera app is even close to the stock camera app from any of the reputable manufacturers like Samsung, LG, HTC or Huawei.
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That's mostly because of closed sources, proprietary software, licencing & patents, etc and not because of incompatibility.
I found a few apps that do similar things as Moto Active Display. They are AC Display, Active Notification, and Dynamic Notifications.
The problem with using them on different devices is that Motorola's Moto X series of devices have 4 infrared sensors in each 4 corners of the screen so the device is aware of when you reach to grab it. Most other phones only have the proximity sensor which is not as precise nor as flexible.
I'd love to see some opinion and testing of AcDisplay on the S7.
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I'd love to see some opinion and testing of AcDisplay on the S7.
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Wave to wake works about 50 percent of the time, although it really is more "rub to wake". Raise to wake needs a way too forceful and deliberate action, it wastes battery, and for some reason if you double tap the screen it disables the fingerprint unlock for your next unlock. So TL;DR - don't use.
Well, let's hope Samsung does more with the Always On with future updates and Android N.
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Well, let's hope Samsung does more with the Always On with future updates and Android N.
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Hopped on just to second this. Moto's active display kept me with their devices for years. It's one of those features that just functionally improves phone usage in a dramatic way. Dramatic enough to command my loyalty for generations of devices. Just got an S7 and there's no comparison. Might be heading back.
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Hopped on just to second this. Moto's active display kept me with their devices for years. It's one of those features that just functionally improves phone usage in a dramatic way. Dramatic enough to command my loyalty for generations of devices. Just got an S7 and there's no comparison. Might be heading back.
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You're a new user to a 2+ year old phone. You're not included in their market share. No manufacturer cares what used phone you prefer.
I don't recall my S7A AOD. Did my S9+, S8+, and Note 8 address these issues?
Signs are pointing towards Google finally starting to develop their own custom silicon for future Pixel devices, much like Apple does for their devices. Since Google has complete control over their Pixel phones, this would allow them to fine tune both their custom chips and Android software to work better together providing superior performance and possibly battery optimization.
I think this is pretty exciting news. This could lead to a new era of Android performance and battery life. Plus, this might enable devices to be supported longer than two years. Makes keeping my 6p another year that much easier. What are your guys thoughts?
http://www.xda-developers.com/google-confirms-upcoming-pixel-devices-will-use-custom-silicon/
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I think android has needed this for a long time, we've forever been in a battle with Qualcomm for example for proper up to date source code, iPhones reap the benefits of optimisation which means their arguably lower specs perform better (The age old displacement vs forced induction argument for car people).
I'm glad Google did away with the middle man on the Nexus program, it makes negotiating such things simpler, on the other hand I am sad the Nexus name and price have gone with it. It's not all bad, allegedly there is also some custom silicone in the upcoming Pixels tying it all together, I can't wait to see how it performs.
I wasn't sure where to put this thread so I decided to put it here because the Nexus 5x was one of the last devices of the Nexus line. The Nexus line meant a lot to me because I owned 4 Nexus products. A galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, Nexus 7 and Nexus Q. It makes me nostalgic. Does anyone still miss the Nexus Line? I am going to be so sad when they removed the 5x and 6p from the Google store .
I've owned 4 I believe as well. Nexus s 4g, Nexus 7 gen 1, Nexus 6 and currently I swap between a LeEco Le Max 2 and Nexus 5x. There is no experience like what you would get on those devices. Very nostalgic and a very tight community. These devices will definitely be missed when they are removed.
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I have lik... 4 or 5 Nexus 5's. It was easier to just buy a new one on ebay. I loved that phone - now I love the 5X, it's sad to see that the Pixel isn't going to be a good replacement.
Any suggestions for a future upgrade? Needs to of course be fully root/mod supported like the 5X..headphone jack.. fingerprint sensor (got used to unlocking with it on my N5X), prefer: swappable battery / SD card / Qi charging, anything out there / coming out like that?
Motorola was the second closest thing to the Nexus line. I had a first generation x and third generation x. The first generation Moto x was like a Nexus. Those were nostalgic times. Lenovo ruined Motorola now. Motorola is inconsistent with their light skin. All of their phones have 7.1.1 and the weird icon pack except for the dialer and you can only enabled the battery percentage next to the icon on the z series and they removed moto maker. I also don't get why they have a 3gb variant in India and a 2gb variant in the states (for the base model 2gb of ram is terrible!!
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I have lik... 4 or 5 Nexus 5's. It was easier to just buy a new one on ebay. I loved that phone - now I love the 5X, it's sad to see that the Pixel isn't going to be a good replacement.
Any suggestions for a future upgrade? Needs to of course be fully root/mod supported like the 5X..headphone jack.. fingerprint sensor (got used to unlocking with it on my N5X), prefer: swappable battery / SD card / Qi charging, anything out there / coming out like that?
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The moto G5 plus is a great option. I was actually deciding between an ice blue Nexus 5x and a moto G5 plus. I'm consistently able to get 7 hours of sot and it's a great value but make sure you get the 64gb variant. It's nothing to do with the storage but it has 4gb of ram(the base model has 2gb of ram). This device is well supported but I'm assuming that Motorola is only going to push out one update because the third generation Moto g only got on update and the 4th generation wasn't supposed to get Oreo(only the plus is getting Oreo). It's pretty much a Nexus except it won't be getting monthly security patches.
I loved the shield tablet. I got the original one and it beat Google's support. It got a lot of bug fixes and stability updates. It also got updates all the way from KitKat to nougat. Nostalgic times.
I'm glad that Google came up with Android one. The moto x4 android one is like the new Nexus 5x. The Nexus 5x was a great phone but it should have had 2 instead of 3gb of RAM and a snapdragon 810. The ice blue color looked beautiful.
The Nexus line really died with the 5. I bought a Nexus 5X, but even that was when the prices started to climb. It wasn't horribly expensive, but it's clear other manufacturers can build phones with similar hardware cheaper. The Nexus line always had community support, was decent hardware, at a great price point. The Pixel really is none of that, it's Google wanting to be the next Apple, and failing. I've owned many Nexus devices, starting with the Galaxy Nexus, and ending with the Nexus 5X (with several in between). I have 6 Nexus tablets in the house (3 Nexus 7s, 3 2013 Nexus 7). With the release of the Pixel, I went elsewhere. We now have two Huawei phones, neither which I'm really impressed with, but they had official Lineage support. So perhaps next I'll try OnePlus? On the tablets I'm picking up Samsung T813/T713 to replacing the Nexus 7s 2013s as those have Official Lineage support.
I much preferred the ease of Nexus line, and the hardware. However I'm not going to support Google's current hardware strategy, much less there's not much development behind their new devices anyways. I haven't tried a Motorola perhaps I should try one of those, they've been releasing several phones that are affordable with impressive specs, with bootloaders that can be unlocked.
After decidedly poor Nexus 5X phone (with only 2GB of RAM in 2015, bootloop of death, poor charging, and a half broke Oreo update) and Nexus 9 with only 32GB of storage and no expansion card slot, I sure won't miss this line in future. Android still desperately needs a good selection of mid-range devices. Perhaps Huawei Honor or Oneplus will be it in future, but Huawei does have the reputation of using nonstandard skin and less developer friendly.
Don't buy a moto device if you are going to stay on the stock rom. Lenovo has ruined Motorola. I miss the time when there was only the g, e and x series and I remember getting the lollipop update on my first gen moto g a few days after my friend got it on his first gen moto x. Now Motorola is weird. They have so many phones the g5, g5 plus, g5s plus, g5s, e4, e4 play, z2 play, z2 force, x4 and x4 Android one. I don't know why they decided to turn the x series into a mid ranger. Also the z2 force is so expensive, has a small battery and a decent camera. Also all the phones are running different software. They are either running 7.0 or 7.1.1. It's not like they are all on 7.0 or 7.1.1. Motroala intended the g series to get 2 major software updates but Lenovo has decided to give it 1 major update and a few security patches. Lenovo bought moto when I had a g3. I was so hyped to get nougat but Motorola didn't give it. After I saw the g4 I thought it was a great buy but the phone was only supposed to receive nougat. The only reason why the g4 plus is getting Oreo is because it was accidentally written on Motorola's website that the g4 is supposed to get nougat and Oreo. The worst part is it's only the g4 plus and not the g4. I used to like Motorola until Lenovo bought it. The first 3 moto G, x and e phones were good and the moto x4(android one edition) and why did Motorola release the g5s series. I feel like Motorola is trying to make g5 owners feel bad. The g5s has a 5.5 inch screen and a dual camera. I can't say anything on the dual cameras but I wish I had a 5.5 inch screen on the moto g5s plus. Also it costs $400 but no USB C? Honestly a one plus 3t or 5 is a better buy. Motorola is headed down a dark path and the company is a mess. I might ditch moto unless the g6 comes with 4gb of RAM as the base model and has USB c. Motorola is headed down a dark path according to me. I might buy the first gen pixel XL or the next one plus. Motorola said "Since the time of posting this, we have learned of some errors in our marketing materials around Android O upgrades for moto g4 Plus. It’s our general practice for the moto g family to get one major OS upgrade per device, so it wasn’t originally planned for Android O. But it’s important to us we keep our promises, so in addition to the N upgrade it has already received, we will be upgrading moto g4 Plus to Android O. Because this is an unplanned upgrade, it will take some time to fit into our schedule, we’ll update our software upgrade page when we have more info.
*Based on the Android 8.0 Oreo Announcement on August 21, 2017."
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I have lik... 4 or 5 Nexus 5's. It was easier to just buy a new one on ebay. I loved that phone - now I love the 5X, it's sad to see that the Pixel isn't going to be a good replacement.
Any suggestions for a future upgrade? Needs to of course be fully root/mod supported like the 5X..headphone jack.. fingerprint sensor (got used to unlocking with it on my N5X), prefer: swappable battery / SD card / Qi charging, anything out there / coming out like that?
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Is the Nexus 5X your daily driver and what color do you have. Quartz, black or ice blue?
Nexus is my backup phone to my company phone (various including galaxy s5, s7, and iphone). It's sad to see the demise of the nexus product family, but it's not surprising. The quality of the nexus line has been terrible and the support has been terrible. People put up with that because the phones were decent in terms of price and performance. Since google has is going down a different path (a dead-end path), hopefully other vendors like oneplus or nokia will take up where google abandoned nexus.
I'm currently using a 5x that I inherited from my son. It was brought back from the dead by getting a motherboard replacement under extended warranty when the original died due to the boot loop defect. Previously I used a 5, also inherited. This phone recently died due to the boot loop problem caused by the defective power button. The most common phone in my extended family is nexus 5, by far.
I really liked the clean simple design of the 5. I like that the 5X is larger, but the camera protrusion really detracts from the design. The 5 performed okay, but now that I'm using the 5X, I realize how slow the 5 was. If the 5X had more ram and a faster processor, it would be the perfect phone for me.
I can't relate to the obsession with "premium" appearance (i.e., metal and glass). Current flagship phones feel nice in your hand, but if you drop them, they are finished. So you need to put them in a case. In a case, all that matters is the display.
Google has dropped the ball so badly in so many ways. Pixel is a disaster. The phones are overpriced and have too many flaws. Google's quality control is garbage. Their support is garbage. They are mismanaging android, due to the fragmentation. As much as I hate apple and as much as I think ios is a mediocre OS, the one thing they have done right is keep the herd running the latest OS. I have the latest OS on my company 5s. This phone is older than a nexus 5 and it has the same OS version as the iphone X. Google abandoned the nexus 5, yet apple is keeping the 5s up to date exactly the same as an x. Things like this are why apple is eating google's lunch, but google is too stubborn and too stupid to see this. They don't support their own phones, so how can they expect the oems like samsung to keep their phones up to date?
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Nexus is my backup phone to my company phone (various including galaxy s5, s7, and iphone). It's sad to see the demise of the nexus product family, but it's not surprising. The quality of the nexus line has been terrible and the support has been terrible. People put up with that because the phones were decent in terms of price and performance. Since google has is going down a different path (a dead-end path), hopefully other vendors like oneplus or nokia will take up where google abandoned nexus.
I'm currently using a 5x that I inherited from my son. It was brought back from the dead by getting a motherboard replacement under extended warranty when the original died due to the boot loop defect. Previously I used a 5, also inherited. This phone recently died due to the boot loop problem caused by the defective power button. The most common phone in my extended family is nexus 5, by far.
I really liked the clean simple design of the 5. I like that the 5X is larger, but the camera protrusion really detracts from the design. The 5 performed okay, but now that I'm using the 5X, I realize how slow the 5 was. If the 5X had more ram and a faster processor, it would be the perfect phone for me.
I can't relate to the obsession with "premium" appearance (i.e., metal and glass). Current flagship phones feel nice in your hand, but if you drop them, they are finished. So you need to put them in a case. In a case, all that matters is the display.
Google has dropped the ball so badly in so many ways. Pixel is a disaster. The phones are overpriced and have too many flaws. Google's quality control is garbage. Their support is garbage. They are mismanaging android, due to the fragmentation. As much as I hate apple and as much as I think ios is a mediocre OS, the one thing they have done right is keep the herd running the latest OS. I have the latest OS on my company 5s. This phone is older than a nexus 5 and it has the same OS version as the iphone X. Google abandoned the nexus 5, yet apple is keeping the 5s up to date exactly the same as an x. Things like this are why apple is eating google's lunch, but google is too stubborn and too stupid to see this. They don't support their own phones, so how can they expect the oems like samsung to keep their phones up to date?
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Yes I agree in so many ways. Google used to be great. I remember so many people used to have Nexuses( or nexi?) back in the day but most of the people I know have switched to an OEM like Samsung or LG. One of my friends is a hardcore Nexus fan. He has had all the Nexuses except for the 6p and Galaxy Nexus. He currently has a 5x and I wonder what he's gonna do because he only likes stock Android. I'm not even sure where the pixel is headed. I still have my doubts about the first and second generation pixel. I don't even know why Google decided to add the edge sense feature. In the past the phone, charging cable and charging brick was made by the company who made the hardware of the phone and the software was always stock Android (no additional features) but for the pixel they are adding to the software with unique features. I also hate Motorola. I'm not a fruit fan but I gotta admit they are doing pretty good so far. Their devices are still supported and their geekbench scores are just amazing. I don't know what to upgrade to. I only want stock Android but there's no way I'm gonna buy a pixel(even if I have the money for it) and Motorola is headed down a dark path. Huawei seems like a great company (with their AI and machine learning which is impressive) but their software looks ugly. Their icon pack reminds me of the gingerbread days. I don't like TouchWiz and LG's UX seems sluggish (I still haven't gained their trust after the bootloop issue). I might buy a one plus 5t but I'm not sure. I generally buy mid range phones and I really wished I could have bought the moto x4 android one edition. I want to stay out of Samsung and LG mid rangers because there are so many of them, they have underpowered processors and they are most likely never gonna get any future updates. Also, they don't have a true mid ranger which rivals against other mid rangers like the g5 plus and honor 6x.
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Yes I agree in so many ways. Google used to be great. I remember so many people used to have Nexuses( or nexi?) back in the day but most of the people I know have switched to an OEM like Samsung or LG. One of my friends is a hardcore Nexus fan. He has had all the Nexuses except for the 6p and Galaxy Nexus. He currently has a 5x and I wonder what he's gonna do because he only likes stock Android. I'm not even sure where the pixel is headed. I still have my doubts about the first and second generation pixel. I don't even know why Google decided to add the edge sense feature. In the past the phone, charging cable and charging brick was made by the company who made the hardware of the phone and the software was always stock Android (no additional features) but for the pixel they are adding to the software with unique features. I also hate Motorola. I'm not a fruit fan but I gotta admit they are doing pretty good so far. Their devices are still supported and their geekbench scores are just amazing. I don't know what to upgrade to. I only want stock Android but there's no way I'm gonna buy a pixel(even if I have the money for it) and Motorola is headed down a dark path. Huawei seems like a great company (with their AI and machine learning which is impressive) but their software looks ugly. Their icon pack reminds me of the gingerbread days. I don't like TouchWiz and LG's UX seems sluggish (I still haven't gained their trust after the bootloop issue). I might buy a one plus 5t but I'm not sure. I generally buy mid range phones and I really wished I could have bought the moto x4 android one edition. I want to stay out of Samsung and LG mid rangers because there are so many of them, they have underpowered processors and they are most likely never gonna get any future updates. Also, they don't have a true mid ranger which rivals against other mid rangers like the g5 plus and honor 6x.
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If you're looking for a mid-range android phone, there aren't a lot of options, especially if you like a "pure" android.
My son has a oneplus 5 and he likes it, except for the fingerprint reader and the camera, which he doesn't like at all. It's a decent phone and the 5t will be an improvement. The nokia 8 looks pretty nice and the nokia 9 should be an improvement.
Pixel doesn't interest me at all. The 2 XL is too large and the 2 is just a warmed over pixel. It looks like it's a couple of years old, which it basically is. It's a lazy poor excuse for a phone. I'm so disgusted with google, they would have to knock it out of the park before I would buy another one of their phones. Their service and support suck and their products are hardly impressive.
There isn't a lot of love for samsung, but I was happy with the GS5 and the GS7. I could be happy with a GS8 or GS9. The two things I don't like about samsung are touchwiz (which isn't nearly as bad as it used to be) and knox, but you can live with them.
Guess I'll chime in with a little something of my own.
Back before the 5X was released, everybody dumped on it because the 6P coming as well, the "superior" version. And, to an extent, everyone was right to do so. The 6P had superior specs in everyway. But I still went ahead and bought my 5X on launch and I was happy, for a time. Then, the boot loop happened. What's funny about that, is the fact that it was virtually unheard of (correct me if I'm wrong), until the issue became insanely widespread at the same time, more or less a year later. And then, it started happening with the 6P. I think a little less severe than the 6P, but still happening nonetheless. So I got my replacement, which Google honored even though the warranty was way out, and I continued to enjoy my 5X. Because honestly, this device was really good for it's time. But the truth is, that time was very short lived because shortly after the release of these devices, better things started coming out almost immediately and instantly the 5X felt dated. But! It was kept alive by the wonderful dev scene we have here.
With that being said, this phone is just past it's prime, and now we're in the Pixel era of the Nexus line, which just costs too damn much (and even have their own sets of hardware problems) so I'm looking to finally pass this phone on. I've been eyeing the 5T a lot since the rumors about it started. Snapdragon 835 processor, same as the recent flagships of this year, a decent camera that can hold it's own against the competition, a beautiful design (yes, whatever, it looks like an iPhone knockoff but I truly love that design), decent sized battery, fingerprint reader on the back where it should be. The 5T is ticking all of the boxes I'm looking for in my next smartphone upgrade. I don't really care that the screen isn't QHD or whatever because honestly, any screen is gonna be better than the 5X, so I'm truly not missing out on much. The only thing I know I'm gonna be upset about, is the sacrificing of first-in-line Android OS updates. No matter how much a company boasts about how near stock Android is on its device, there's always gonna be a wait for updates, rather than getting it immediately as soon as Google pushes it. That's something I'm gonna have to get used to, leaving the Nexus line. But at this point, the upgrade is well worth it.
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Honestly I feel like the Nexus 5x would have been an awesome phone. I don't care if it's made of plastic, if it has a large camera bump and if it doesn't have a qhd display. If Google would have decided to put in the same snapdragon processor as the 6p and 3gb of ram, then it would have been an awesome phone. There's something about the color and design of the phone which I love. The ice blue color looks beautiful and honestly the black and quartz white. If it didn't have the bootloop issue and if it had the same specs as the 6p I would have bought it over my g5 plus which I currently own. The 808 was ok but my friend said that it could barely run Snapchat. I can't believe that the life time of the 5x is coming to an end. It felt like Marshmallow was yesterday. It's going to receive 8.1 and maybe a few security patches. I'm glad that Google decided to extend the time the 5x gets updates for. Honestly I feel like 8.0 is going to drain battery so 7.1.2 is what 5x users should stay on. I still can't understand why I love the design of the 5x so much. It's hard to look for a phone running stock Android and that gets updates first for a mid range(ish) price *cough cough pixel*.
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Honestly I feel like the Nexus 5x would have been an awesome phone. I don't care if it's made of plastic, if it has a large camera bump and if it doesn't have a qhd display. If Google would have decided to put in the same snapdragon processor as the 6p and 3gb of ram, then it would have been an awesome phone. There's something about the color and design of the phone which I love. The ice blue color looks beautiful and honestly the black and quartz white. If it didn't have the bootloop issue and if it had the same specs as the 6p I would have bought it over my g5 plus which I currently own. The 808 was ok but my friend said that it could barely run Snapchat. I can't believe that the life time of the 5x is coming to an end. It felt like Marshmallow was yesterday. It's going to receive 8.1 and maybe a few security patches. I'm glad that Google decided to extend the time the 5x gets updates for. Honestly I feel like 8.0 is going to drain battery so 7.1.2 is what 5x users should stay on. I still can't understand why I love the design of the 5x so much. It's hard to look for a phone running stock Android and that gets updates first for a mid range(ish) price *cough cough pixel*.
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Yeah it's a real shame that the Pixel line is such a disappointment. I mean, no headphone jack? ****ing hell google.
Ikr. Is Google turning into Apple. Pixelbook: Pixel 2: pixelbuds = 12 inch MacBook:iPhone 8:airpods.
The Nexus support officially kind of ended yesterday. Android P Dev 1 came out and the Nexus 5x and 6p don't officially support it.
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The Nexus support officially kind of ended yesterday. Android P Dev 1 came out and the Nexus 5x and 6p don't officially support it.
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Security updates, Nexus 5x and 6p will receive until Nov 18. After 5th Nov 2018 , bye bye official support. Thanks to 3rd party developers to bring us next version of android.
hi, I just got the opportunity to update my G6 software to V11g. I know that it has come earlier in other European countries. Are there any opinions about the new version of the software?
I haven't really noticed any difference.
It is good when it is not whorst than before at least they do not broke anything. How long are you using V11g version?
Just got OTA update of 11g from EE UK Security patch date 6 Nov 2017.
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I dont see any differences, but some members view a better speed shot on take pictures, and better quality.
Yeah i noticed some extra features with face recognition. And i find battery improvements aswell. On V11G for couple of days. Thanks for the hint with camera coyot, i will check that out.
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+1. Camera seems faster and crisper. Worth the update.
Haven't seen the battery improvement though.
Norway here. Got it a few days ago, although I check manually as a developer. No difference noticed. Haven't tested the camera improvements, if noticeable. The software is stable and no reason to not upgrade, in fact you should of course as it's an Android security patch update.
Kind of hoping this includes some under the hood stuff that'll makes it more ready for Oreo. The fact that they've held it back at 7.0 made me think they worked on Oreo as fast as possible.
My Galaxy S II has 7.1.2 LOL... LineageOS. As a developer there are of course some news in the APIs in 7.1 and 7.1.2 I wouldn't mind being able to test on a physical device, but really nothing that the emulator doesn't do as it's just software changes for my apps.
Since LG manufactures the Pixel 2 it would be nice if just Google gave them right to use that software minus the stuff only the Pixel can do. The software on the LG G6 is very stock anyway. It's the only non-Google phone I've had where all the extra settings, which are not many and don't bloat the device, are actually useful and some very nice to have over stock AOSP. Kind of LineageOS. Some LG apps I don't use, but they can be disabled. Otherwise I actually use the stock phone/contacts app (same app), SMS/MMS app and Calendar app. They're just fine. Was kind of surprised when I found out one can change the location of the floating action button by holding and moving. It was at the center which is not standard behaviour. To the right it goes and it positions perfectly at the right place according to Material guidelines.
This is my first post here, and the first time I've bought a non-Google device, as it was affordable and got good reviews like the newer V30 IIRC the name. My Nexus 5 died although it was still under the 5 year warranty by law in Norway as long as it's not your fault and then they have to prove the failure is really your fault. A humidity sensor far away from the Wi-Fi chip going off isn't enough. Then they must prove that changing that part fixes the Wi-Fi. Anyway my Nexus 5 got the infamous Wi-Fi chip bug where the chip loses physical connections to the motherboard. Managed to fix it with various recipes here, from physicial pressure with tape to oven baking. But last oven baking killed it after it had worked several days (and I tried again). I'm living in Spain, had to go back to Norway before mid November to claim 5 year warranty, but didn't have that patience. As people today are so stupid and buys ever increasing costly phones, while prices for components of course goes down as the technology inside today really are small increments. Profit. People thinking the more expensive the more status basically. I'm sad Android OEMs have jumped on the iPhone price range but understandable from OEMs standpoint if they sell. Anyway with Nova Launcher and emulators I can test the important new stuff in Oreo (API 26 and 27).
Hope LG keeps delivering phones at a reasonable price as we had Android flagships before, and with much less bloat than Samsung for instance, we just need Oreo. AFAIK LG has promised 2 major updates for 2017 flagships, so at least Android 9. Correct me if I'm wrong. After that it'll be LineageOS, and then I assume there's a good camera substitution. I don't throw away perfectly working phones. Great camera (iPhone 6-7 friends jealous at least), water proofed, good battery life, expandable storage, headphone jack, great fast charging that surprises me still (although I still miss my wireless charging and my luxury charger is collecting dust after my Nexus 5 died), etc. Bought this autumn I'll have warranty until 2021, so if it stops working I'll just go to any store in Norway selling LG phones, and meanwhile they'll have to give you a similar good phone. If they can't repair it (for example lack of parts being old) and can't prove it's your fault, your warranty right is a new phone being just as good that year, say 2020, like the LG G6 was. Would mean an LG flagship for free that year usually, you usually get a choice though, but it must be as good, that years early flagship from some Android OEM. Like an "LG G9" or whatever. I won't try to fix this myself. Just use my backup phones meanwhile, although old, runs LineageOS pretty well, actually better than stock. Got the Samsung Galaxy Nexus and LG Nexus 4 still. My 5 got fried as said.
What I miss from my Nexus 5 is really wireless charging. Bought a luxury charger. So convenient. Where I naturally put my phone down I'm used to put it in the charger right there. The going away from wireless charging was a true surprise... But now that iPhone has it, even the standard (yeah wow, but not a fast charger in the box, that's an LOL!), it'll be in new Android flagships released in 2018 and forward for sure. So convenient it'll be when all places like airports, coffee shops etc all have charging pads at your table. Most pads are really cheap and surely will be getting cheaper, probably many non-OEMs producing a ton right now "compatible with the iPhone 8" but it'll work for everyone.
I wish all EU/EEA countries would adopt Norway's warranty ("reklamasjonsrett") with 5 years for all consumer good from sofas to phones. There's a 2 year warranty for batteries, but when the battery is built-in and you can not change the battery yourself without breaking the manufacturers warranty, the Norwegian law again trumps the manufacturer's and the 5 year warranty kicks in (just did it with my GFs Garmin Watch, didn't even have to pay for transport, which is usual, about 4 USD, because it had to be sent another country, so she got a completely new device, but everything synced to the cloud so setup back to the old one was a sync away, and it was clearly a battery failure as it worked perfectly when plugged in and died immediately when disconnected), because then it's a part of the device. The manufacturer's warranty only counts for the things they offer that are better than the Norwegian one, which usually are none. Sometimes it can be, like iPhone users buying extra warranty, but the 5 year general warranty still counts regarding general failure of the device.
To h*** with planned obsolescence. We even see it here. Working at the country's IT agency we see many devices fail just after or just before 5 years (that accurate they can't always be). But a company, everything from a one man company to a big company, only gets the standard manufacturer's warranty, but as a small country the devices are the same, for consumers and companies (designed for the Norwegian market because of our warranty), except products sold only to companies. So it's weird to see printers fail JUST after 5 years, googling it and seeing people from the US have the same device fail after 1-2 years and EU like the UK users having the device fail after 2 years. We're talking thousands of devices, as I developed the inventory system for Norway's IT agency, and I see a clear pattern. It's no anecdote.
Since the recent update VoLTE seems to work for T-Mobile Germany
Hey...
I didnt notice not very big difference ...
But... One of the major things im noticed.... Its seems like lg has improved the cpu/gpu governors ... The whole phone is now aboslutely fluid ....and also its using more than before deepsleep... No battery/performance mods installed, only magisk and some minor tweaks like youtube vanced and viper + dual speaker mod... Even with around 80 apps its not laggy ... Scrolling now is also more fluid... so ... The update is in my opinion must have.... :laugh:
So scrolling is better now? Is that possible?
Phone was fluid even before the update.
Biggest thing i noticed is that the battery life is improved ?
oh the placebo effect in this thread..
For me it is not that fluid when scrolling in apps like Instagram, Facebook etc.
I have poor battery now, and nothing good
Waiting Oreo
Funny, in the Mideast region the 11g update improved battery life.
From unplugging when leaving the house , after 9 hours of light use at work usually have 80% battery left.
This is my first android phone and I am using it out of box (nothing installed to improve phone performance) I got the feeling that the battery is little bit better and phone is little bit "more fluid".
MartinIrrelevant said:
Hey...
I didnt notice not very big difference ...
But... One of the major things im noticed.... Its seems like lg has improved the cpu/gpu governors ... The whole phone is now aboslutely fluid ....and also its using more than before deepsleep... No battery/performance mods installed, only magisk and some minor tweaks like youtube vanced and viper + dual speaker mod... Even with around 80 apps its not laggy ... Scrolling now is also more fluid... so ... The update is in my opinion must have.... :laugh:
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Hello, can yoi give me a link for the "dual speaker mode" please ? Its work great ? Thanks
Sent from my LG G6 using XDA Labs
Hey ...
Yes... Im using it with viper... (Only extra loud and speaker optimization .. because im to lazy to set it up)
Hows the sound ?.... I have no device to compare, for me it sounds good, but im buying next days a bluetooth speaker because my car has no radio xD
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...aker-mod-lg-g6-variants-t3632943/post74195106
You need root browser to install ...
Just backup the original mixer_paths_tasha.xml from system/etc and then copy and paste the new file in system/etc
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/cell-phones/lg-LGH873-Black http://www.lg.com/ca_en/cell-phones/lg-LGH873-Platinum
As you can see, the "ThinQ" feature came from the Canadian model. Canadian model owners, "ThinQ" CAM really come?
Nope. There's no "AI cloud" or whatever when using the camera app, though it was updated with a new skin.
It's possible it'll come later, as I believe the V30 got 8.0 and ThinQ separately.
ETA: It's honestly not all that surprising. ARCore 1.2 got pushed to the H873 shortly after Oreo, and the performance is absolutely abysmal. Oreo didn't do much for the overall phone performance, though Google Assistant is much quicker to activate and seems to hear me almost as well as my Home Mini now.