why so long for updates on dp - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Why is it taking so long to get the updates to the 6p lately? I noticed this a while back that the 6 and the 5x and the n7 and pixel the tablet not phone get their updates together and the 6p is a little while after that. Even the monthly security updates come a little later now. I am just wondering if it's something with huweia. I am getting nervous that we won't see the next version of android. Or it will take forever to get it.

mojorisin7178 said:
Why is it taking so long to get the updates to the 6p lately? I noticed this a while back that the 6 and the 5x and the n7 and pixel the tablet not phone get their updates together and the 6p is a little while after that. Even the monthly security updates come a little later now. I am just wondering if it's something with huweia. I am getting nervous that we won't see the next version of android. Or it will take forever to get it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's why we have XDA. Even if Google suddenly stops supporting the 6p, and I highly doubt we'll miss the next version, XDA can get it up. Look at the Nexus 5, it's still supported

Yeah I know. I actually haven't even rooted this phone yet and it's been about a year!!! It just works. This is my first phone that I haven't rooted I was always a Samsung guy and right out the box it got rooted and AOSP based Roms. But anyway I plan on rooting and going the customer ROM route once Google stops supporting it officially. I was just wondering if someone knew why it is just the 6p that gets late updates. The 5x came out the same time and already has 7.1.2 dp

Related

Monthly Security Updates

Hey all I have a purely stock unrooted nexus 6p that I am trying to figure out why I am getting the monthly update a week before the release of the next update ever time. I am thinking its ATT blocking the updates. Can you please post the carrier, date and time when you received the May update please?
VZW and mine showed update on the 13th. Was starting to wonder when I'd see it, but it finally hit.
Still waiting here on Sprint for the update. This is taking forever.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA-Developers mobile app
I have Project Fi and get my updates rather late too. It's not just you.
If you really want the update, then by all means flash it manually as soon as it comes out.
I don't think that the carrier can actually block the update, unless you somehow bought the 6P carrier-branded, and through the carrier. That being said, I've been on Tmo, Fi, VZW, and Straight Talk, and I have never actually received a monthly security update as soon as they are released. Usually I had to wait a couple of days. I think those updates roll out randomly, so I'd say just keep waiting, or flash it yourself.
Nexus updates are known to be pushed out in stages.
If you are desperate just flash the images via fastboot or sideload the ota via adb.
Yes I know I can side load the update. That is not the point of this post. Its to get an idea of timing of when people are getting the updates and what carriers they are on.
Google releases there updates in a phased approach. They first release it to 1% all the way up to 100%. 100% should be getting the update within 2 - 3 weeks. The 2 -3 week period I have yet to see!
What I was trying to determine is if this is the carriers blocking the updates till a specific time or its google just not pushing updates to the phones like they say they are.
Note ATT is notorious for blocking updates. And yes they can block the update as long as your using there network to check.
If Google is releasing security updates on a monthly bases and you don't get it before the next update is released, whats the use in a monthly update???
brichardson1991 said:
Nexus updates are known to be pushed out in stages.
If you are desperate just flash the images via fastboot or sideload the ota via adb.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How do you side load. I just saw that google has released images to do that. I too have a 6p completely stock. I want to keep the bootloader locked. I have never had a nexus device before. So this is new to me I always used Samsung. The problem with Samsung is you have to mod the hell out of it. this phone just works like it is supposed to. but I do want to try to update manually. So I followed the instructions in the general section and I am installing the sdk as we speak. So what is the process for side loading and where do I get the update? My phone gets its updates really late in the month and I hate waiting. Also I booted this phone into recovery and tried to do a factory reset but it didn't do it and there were all these options I am not used to. How do I do a basic factory reset from recovery? I would like to know just in case. I am not wanting to go crazy with this phone but I do want to understand it so when I get the nexus 7 I can play with this one when I get spare time.

Now that 6P has been EOLed till when can we expect updates?

Google has removed 6P and 5X from its store.
I suppose this signal a specific clock that starts ticking now.
What's the official policy?
By the way, I read that 7.1 won't come as final version till next year. So much for speedy updates Google. Way to betray customers trust.
Simple search would give you this on EOL.
www.xda-developers.com/google-publishes-end-of-life-for-nexus-devices
So Security updates till September 2018 and major releases till September 2017.
I guess 7.1 will be the end of it.
Actually no. O will be the final Android OS update officially from Google. You will need to rely on the community starting from P.
XDA will save the Day!
Both the Nexus 5X & 6P will be stuck on the back burner now while Google put's all it's effort into these new overpriced phones of theirs, so much for having a Nexus for speedy updates as that will now be a thing of the past, we have to wait for 7.1 & it wouldn't surprise me if we probably get a half hash chucked together version aswell.
In another post I said i was going to keep my nexus 6P till it either dies or looses it support, I'm actually tempted now to get a Note 7 one that doesn't explode which is cheaper than a Pixel XL
Dissapointed
I pondered getting a 6P (from an S7 Ege) until now. Not sure it's worth it now that The Google Pixels are out. Software support for the Nexus devices will probably be an afterthought now.
Will then rather go for a Note 7. I'd rather wait 6 months for a OS update while rocking a phone with some pretty decent features...and that S Pen...! GIF mania!
What I won't do is walk around with a phone that people would continuously think is an I Phone.

Just in 7.1.1 coming to nexus 6 in January

They had a bug to fix finally...
Lenovorola mentioned this last month. Is your source different from mine (Lenovorola Germany)?
Might be AP's post - http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...7-1-1-update-will-come-nexus-6-early-january/ - they sent in a query to Google, and Google's response indicated "early Jan"
Was there ever any doubt? The Nexus 6 will get every Nougat release (7.1.1, 7.1.2, etc.). It will not, however, receive Android O.
@Candy[MAN]: It will be at Google's discretion as to whether we get an official upgrade to Android 8.0 or not. But even if we don't, ROM developers will be building from source for years to come. One way or another, this device will have Android 8.0 on it.
Never underestimate power of Nexus devices.
too little, too late. personally the only reason i bought a Nexus was to have the latest android version ALWAYS. and google has disappointed.
though im glad for drivers being available to public so we can have an arsenal of stable and functional ROMs being developed by other devs.
currently running PureNexus 7.1.1 with the middle finger help up facing google.
woomera said:
too little, too late. personally the only reason i bought a Nexus was to have the latest android version ALWAYS. and google has disappointed.
though im glad for drivers being available to public so we can have an arsenal of stable and functional ROMs being developed by other devs.
currently running PureNexus 7.1.1 with the middle finger help up facing google.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You have the ability. The nexus line was never meant for the average person. If you cant build from source then a nexus is beyond you
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@Candy[MAN]: It will be at Google's discretion as to whether we get an official upgrade to Android 8.0 or not. But even if we don't, ROM developers will be building from source for years to come. One way or another, this device will have Android 8.0 on it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly!! :highfive:
January images posted for every device except Nexus 6.
zelendel said:
You have the ability. The nexus line was never meant for the average person. If you cant build from source then a nexus is beyond you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tsk tsk. There's no room for accusations like that here. The reason I got a Nexus 6 was so that I'd have the latest stock OS without having to flash some buggy (yes, they are buggy and there are always room for screwups) ROM and worry about having an operable phone. Google has done a fine job of providing a stable experience on great hardware at low cost. This phone has been out for 2 years now. Why they can't get these Nougat updates out on time is beyond me. "Well it's the only 32-bit Nexus left" is not an excuse. Android has been built on 32-bit up until the past year or two, and 64-bit phones only became "good" in the past year. Whether the fault lies with Lenovo/Motorola or with Google, the fact is that we just don't have 7.1.x yet, and that's just an embarrassment on whoever's fault that is.
BlockOfDynamite said:
Tsk tsk. There's no room for accusations like that here. The reason I got a Nexus 6 was so that I'd have the latest stock OS without having to flash some buggy (yes, they are buggy and there are always room for screwups) ROM and worry about having an operable phone. Google has done a fine job of providing a stable experience on great hardware at low cost. This phone has been out for 2 years now. Why they can't get these Nougat updates out on time is beyond me. "Well it's the only 32-bit Nexus left" is not an excuse. Android has been built on 32-bit up until the past year or two, and 64-bit phones only became "good" in the past year. Whether the fault lies with Lenovo/Motorola or with Google, the fact is that we just don't have 7.1.x yet, and that's just an embarrassment on whoever's fault that is.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well considering that what ever Google pushes can be made by syncing aosp, build it, flash it and gapps and you have the same thing Google pushed out.
The n6 is eol pretty much. So it is not a surprise that it is last.
Also yes 64 bit just started being the norm. Which means they have been working on it for all east 2 years. People seem to forget that when a device is released the oem already started work on the next device a few months prior. So in sense the brand new device you just got is already outdated as far as the maker is concerned.
Also considering that the stock update issued from Google has bricked many devices that did get it. Then by all means be in a rush.
I have been on a bugless 7.1.1 room now for weeks if not months.
zelendel said:
Well considering that what ever Google pushes can be made by syncing aosp, build it, flash it and gapps and you have the same thing Google pushed out.
(..)
I have been on a bugless 7.1.1 room now for weeks if not months.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Some weeks ago when i flashed PN 7.1.1, as an example, i was stuck outside of home in need of creating an hotspot and not being able to do it kicking out an error (lucky me carrying more than one phone at a time). I wouldn't call that bugless, also the battery life is worse and it tends to lag more with time.
Custom roms are nice as they are, without proper blobs there will always be "bugs", "drains", "hacks" to make it work. It's funny flashing different roms to pass time but in the end i always return to stock with a custom kernel because everything works as it should.
Google spits out bull**** every time an update is released, i would prefer them saying they would stop supporting the device than spiting out lies as they always do lately. Good guy croogle is no more.
lordneopt said:
Some weeks ago when i flashed PN 7.1.1, as an example, i was stuck outside of home in need of creating an hotspot and not being able to do it kicking out an error. I wouldn't call that bugless, also the battery life is worse and it tends to lag more with time.
Custom roms are nice as they are, without proper blobs there will always be "bugs", "drains", "hacks" to make it work. It's funny flashing different roms to pass time but in the end i always return to stock with a custom kernel because everything works as it should.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can't say anything about pure nexus as I have never used it nor will I.
Of course there will always be hacks but let me let you in on something. Considering that the 7.1.1 update was made for devices with dual partitions, for them to get it to work on the older devices, n6, n6p and 5x there will be hacks to make it work directly from Google. Most likely what caused a bunch of bricks from Google ota. There was a commit just yesterday that was supposed to fix the issue a second time.
No OS is perfect. Not custom or official. They all have bugs.
zelendel said:
Well considering that what ever Google pushes can be made by syncing aosp, build it, flash it and gapps and you have the same thing Google pushed out.
The n6 is eol pretty much. So it is not a surprise that it is last.
Also yes 64 bit just started being the norm. Which means they have been working on it for all east 2 years. People seem to forget that when a device is released the oem already started work on the next device a few months prior. So in sense the brand new device you just got is already outdated as far as the maker is concerned.
Also considering that the stock update issued from Google has bricked many devices that did get it. Then by all means be in a rush.
I have been on a bugless 7.1.1 room now for weeks if not months.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But that's the thing, it's not technically 7.1.1 without the proper driver blobs from Lenovo/Motorola, and obviously we don't have those without the official 7.1.1 update. You may have the 7.1.1 OS, but until the official 7.1.1 is released for Nexus 6, the hardware won't be any more stable than the latest official nougat we have.
BlockOfDynamite said:
But that's the thing, it's not technically 7.1.1 without the proper driver blobs from Lenovo/Motorola, and obviously we don't have those without the official 7.1.1 update. You may have the 7.1.1 OS, but until the official 7.1.1 is released for Nexus 6, the hardware won't be any more stable than the latest official nougat we have.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Assuming that there are significant changes in the drivers and vendor blobs from 7.0 official. Didn't seem to be from 7.0 to 7.1.
Funny we saw this same kind of bullkaka (lies) that google would keep updating our Nexus too. And we got nougat, like 3 or 4 months after they promised it. I ran the beta for a long time. Now we thought it would be 7.1.1 like the other Nexus devices that came out after ours. And not even a January patch yet. It does not take a genius to figure out that they are trying to get us to upgrade the device. I refuse to give in. I will just keep the November build and use a custom kernel and doubt I am missing any swell things.
lordneopt said:
Google spits out bull**** every time an update is released, i would prefer them saying they would stop supporting the device than spiting out lies as they always do lately. Good guy croogle is no more.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just vented in the 9 forum as well, but F google here too. They suckered me in with the nexus 5 about 4 years ago as bait, great inexpensive phone I enjoyed using. It also opened up my world to sites like XDA and customizing android. I was hooked right away. So I even upgraded to the 6 and 9 when they came out expecting the same kind of experience . But now looking back I have had lie to myself about just how good the experience has been.
The 5x and 6p gave me no reason to upgrade, I was excited for the pixel line but Google seems to be taking steps to lock it all down from now on.... sooo, I'm out !
Can you point me in the direction of the nearest apple store?
fazbender said:
Can you point me in the direction of the nearest apple store?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First left, second right and then its on the left side of the road.
hey guys, is it possibile that the akku and bootloop bugs from the n6p also can happen to n6??

How long will the Nexus 6P be supported? Should I get 6P or something else?

Hello everyone,
since the Nexus 6 isn't getting any updates from google anymore, I wonder how long the 6P will get updates?
I need a new phone and not sure if 6P is still a good choice ?
Utini said:
Hello everyone, since the Nexus 6 isn't getting any updates from google anymore, I wonder how long the 6P will get updates? I need a new phone and not sure if 6P is still a good choice ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
EOL for 5X and 6P is currently September 2017. This may or may not be extended. Development will continue long past then.
Whether it is a good choice depends on what kind of deal you can get on a new device. Would not advise buying a refurb.
I would expect the 6P to at least get Android O. Every Nexus device gets at least two major updates. So far we've only had one, so there should still be one left.
My friend, we are on XDA!
Nexus 6P will be supported till the end of the time!
Yep, this badboy device and XDA will continue rocking...
The N6 is still getting updates from google but only through maintenance/monthly security updates.
Past Nexus devices generally received incremental updates for 2 years with security updates long after. Whatever happens to the N6, we could expect for the 6P.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
2 to 3 more years
I have a 6p and while ROMs like Lineage and other aosp based roms give hope I am bailing from the 6p ship. The more popular roms have devs that no longer even have the device and are making many more updates to Pixel and V20. You have far to many popular roms that have not been updated since December or early January. The 6p is a bad ass phone though, if anything I'd keep it stock and rooted and just ride it like that for a daily driver until something else comes out. My old LG G2 has better commitment per ROM than this 6p, hell even my Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 still has devs updating roms. I don't see that happening with some of these stock based roms. It was reason I got rid of my Nexus 9.
ossito2012 said:
I have a 6p and while ROMs like Lineage and other aosp based roms give hope I am bailing from the 6p ship. The more popular roms have devs that no longer even have the device and are making many more updates to Pixel and V20. You have far to many popular roms that have not been updated since December or early January. The 6p is a bad ass phone though, if anything I'd keep it stock and rooted and just ride it like that for a daily driver until something else comes out. My old LG G2 has better commitment per ROM than this 6p, hell even my Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 still has devs updating roms. I don't see that happening with some of these stock based roms. It was reason I got rid of my Nexus 9.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Feb patch caused problems for many people with Substratum no longer working, extreme battery drain and wonky kernel settings--and if you fix the settings they don't survive a reboot. That may be why some roms aren't updated to the Feb patch. The rom I use was but a lot of people ended up returning to the January build.
---------- Post added at 08:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:54 PM ----------
I wouldn't buy a 6P at this point even new because too many people have to RMA their phones because of the boot loop of death. And people are now reporting when they send in their phones they are getting back beat up refurbs with lots of visible wear and tear. You are better off buying something else.
I wouldn't bother. 6P was a fantastic phone but it's being abondended by Google. 7.1.2 beta isn't even out for it! The XDA forum for the 6P is getting quieter and quieter too. My 6P got the dreaded battery shutdown issue. Battery wasn't lasting anywhere near a day of medium usage.
Go for the pixel If you can afford it or get the one plus 3T which is what I'm using now.

Maybe Oreo will come today/tomorrow as build G935VVRU4CRE5

Hopefully this is for real this time and not just a tease. The S7 Edge build should be be G935VVRU4CRE5.
Verizon (again) seems to indicate it will be Oreo: https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-update/
I'm hoping it will be rootable (and stable in that rooted configuration) with the stock firmware, and that the root procedures come out soon.
Justinphxaz said:
Hopefully this is for real this time and not just a tease. The S7 Edge build should be be G935VVRU4CRE5.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
NEVERMIND! Bunch of goof-off's at Verizon can't get anything right. The update was pulled. Maybe in a few more months once Android P is officially released. ??
Not sure what VZW is doing here... AA made this situation seem like they're just giving the finger to the update now, but as of 5 mins ago my S7E still shows the "You'll be one of the first to get it" screen on update check. While I'm not generally an optimist with relatively outdated devices and VZW updates, I think they made the promise (ie that screen everyone is getting) and they won't be able to pull out of it without starting fires.
Action123 said:
Not sure what VZW is doing here... AA made this situation seem like they're just giving the finger to the update now, but as of 5 mins ago my S7E still shows the "You'll be one of the first to get it" screen on update check. While I'm not generally an optimist with relatively outdated devices and VZW updates, I think they made the promise (ie that screen everyone is getting) and they won't be able to pull out of it without starting fires.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I still fully believe it'll get the update, it's just a matter of when. Most likely within another month or so but perhaps longer. I'll be on new phones in August anyways though, from what I hear there's not anything too crazy about Oreo that'd I gotta have. Android P should be pretty nice though.
Justinphxaz said:
Yeah I still fully believe it'll get the update, it's just a matter of when. Most likely within another month or so but perhaps longer. I'll be on new phones in August anyways though, from what I hear there's not anything to crazy about Oreo that'd I gotta have. Android P should be pretty nice though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ugh I hope it's not that long of a wait. I've seen a few people around even saying 6/8 (today/tomorrow depending on your sleep schedule) or next week - but maybe that's just wishful thinking.
I bought my S7E outright, but haven't had anything launch that's made me want to dump my pockets yet -- and now we're in the awkward phase between S9 and S10, and the Note 9 doesn't look too promising, and I feel like I should wait to get something with a 5G chipset anyways... But yeah, Android P should be the #beesknees.
Action123 said:
Ugh I hope it's not that long of a wait. I've seen a few people around even saying 6/8 (today/tomorrow depending on your sleep schedule) or next week - but maybe that's just wishful thinking.
I bought my S7E outright, but haven't had anything launch that's made me want to dump my pockets yet -- and now we're in the awkward phase between S9 and S10, and the Note 9 doesn't look too promising, and I feel like I should wait to get something with a 5G chipset anyways... But yeah, Android P should be the #beesknees.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LOL yeah Android P should be the bees knees! I do look forward to the major Android updates for the new api's, but usually with Samsung they already have features that vanilla Android gets later so that's why Oreo isn't as big of a deal for me. I do like project treble, but you gotta have a phone already pre loaded with it to even take advantage of it and then pray that the phone maker is looking to take advantage of it as well to get faster updates. But yeah the Note 9 seems like a decent amount of goodies will be held back for the S10. It'll still be a beast of a phone but makes me wanna hold out for the S10 even though I'll have upgrades available in August.
Is this true? https://www.sammobile.com/2018/06/07/verizon-galaxy-s7-oreo-update-rolling-out-soon
jerses said:
Is this true? https://www.sammobile.com/2018/06/07/verizon-galaxy-s7-oreo-update-rolling-out-soon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sammobile wrote that article right before Verizon pulled the update again on Friday morning. Unfortunately they haven't updated that post to notify users that Verizon pulled the update after they wrote that article. So it makes it seem like sammobile knows it'll be released "soon". They really should update that post and notify users Verizon pulled the update after they had already written the article or just delete it until Verizon decides to actually release Oreo for the S7 and S7 Edge.
Just downloaded the Oreo update and it is installing now. The download failed 3 times before it finally successfully downloaded the file.
Mine download the first time
My phone would not ring or indicate a call was coming in. I removed the sim card, put it back in and now my phone rings ok. Must need to reset the sim card.
bad battery drainage after oreo update
My battery is draining badly since the oreo update on my Verizon sm-935V S7 Edge. I am seeing several people with the same issue. Is there any kind of fix for gbr 935V? My build is the G935VVRU4CRE5 OREO 8.0. What a disappointing piece of crap.
Mikeo31 said:
My battery is draining badly since the oreo update on my Verizon sm-935V S7 Edge. I am seeing several people with the same issue. Is there any kind of fix for gbr 935V? My build is the G935VVRU4CRE5 OREO 8.0. What a disappointing piece of crap.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here - just sitting on my desk, no apps, solid wifi and has drained to 68% in about 3 hours...changed nothing since the "upgrade" to 8.0
PS also hate the stupid icon frames.
me as well.
P_M_G said:
Same here - just sitting on my desk, no apps, solid wifi and has drained to 68% in about 3 hours...changed nothing since the "upgrade" to 8.0
PS also hate the stupid icon frames.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have had nothing but problems. apps stoppIng dead in their tracks and battery drain. Getting worse. also in the last few days I've used over 40G of data and no proof of anything using it apps or otherwise. Good thing I'm unlimited I guess. even though I'm sure Verizon will throttle it soon.

Categories

Resources