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http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...xus-7-is-reportedly-not-getting-android-m.htm
Just saw this, not sure if this news is reliable but that would kind of suck..
Far from credible. Honestly if it doesn't come from Google or Android Police don't beleve it. Actually don't even trust Google just AP.
Someone sent us a tip saying “goodbye Nexus 7, no Android M for you”, and they also said they are close to the Android M development...
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Thats the source lol.
I can see maybe the 2012 nexus 7 being dropped from M update.
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Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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The nexus 7 2012 is fine but if google stops updating the 2013 version I'm gonna bust their asses my Xperia Z1 from 2013 even has a chance of getting M...
atm android 5.1.1 still sucks on my N7 so I hoped that M would fix my issues!
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vkk178 said:
Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
I'm not very concerned. Even if Google doesn't give us the update, it probably won't be very long before CyanogenMod comes out with it. I'm willing to bet that this tablet continues to get community support for another couple of years.
Without a CM Flo or deb device maintainer I doubt CM based on Android M would appear officially for us. Maybe other ROMs that have flo maintainers/devs will bring Android M to our devices after making 5.1.1 Lollipop binaries and stuff compatible with M
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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Besides the point you mentioned , Android does have other benefits ... But I was talking more in terms of Nexus devices . If high end devices & Nexus devices (from the google stable) dont get updates for longer , it would be crappy .No point investing in an expensive Nexus device..
If they stopped selling the N7 2013 in October 2014, 18 months of updates would end April 2016 I think.
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2 years after release date
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Despite rumors circulating about the chance of official M for flo, I doubt that it will be left out. After all, Google recently announced monthly updates for a list of nexus devices that includes flo. Even if those updates came only in the form of patches for L, I'm sure unofficial support will be there. Even my old galaxy nexus has unofficially made it to the latest revision of lollipop...
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Totally agree, 5.1.1 runs smooth on my N7 so I see no reason from a hardware perspective that the N7 shouldn't get M. I think it will be last release so lets hope its a good one.
When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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M developer preview was available for the nexus 5,6 and 9, unfortunately the nexus 4 didn't make the cut, as you quite rightly said, it was released in 2012, which is a bit more than the two year update garuntee
I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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Marshmallow hasn't been released so there is no AOSP Source made public from Google. ROMs will appear once Android 6.0 and it's Source Code is released (rumored by the end of this month)
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I'm developing game for google daydream(their new vr platform) and zte axon 7 seems to be the cheapest android phone that is daydream ready. The problem is that in order to work daydream needs android N. Do you know what are their plans for releasing update on their phones/how fast they did it before?
At a rough guess I'd say that it will be some time after Google eventually release it. I also vaguely remember something somewhere about Daydream not being part of the initial release of Nougat but coming shortly after although a quick search has thrown up nothing.
I'm betting first quarter of 2017. I'd be shocked if it was before the new year.
Everything I've read is pointing to this year for the update they are selling it as "the first daydream phone" and I've read multiple places that they want to get it updated asap.
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Every manufacturer says they want to update ASAP but all of them take longer than they claim.
Imagine if they "rushed" it out full of bugs and things breaking. As much as we depend on these things for life itself, I am happy if they take their time, do it right the first time, then release it! I work in IT and I know from first hand experience over 22 years that you're much better off doing it right the first time then to have to go back and hopefully fix the errors!
Apparently ZTE is part of the group of oems that have early access to the source of this new Android release. As they actively market this phone as "daydream" ready I'd assume they want it to work.
heck until today we had no idea when android would be released (supposedly mid to late August).
I think it will be before November when Daydream will come.
It's really close to daydream release date, are there any news about the android 7.0/7.1 update now?
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It's really close to daydream release date, are there any news about the android 7.0/7.1 update now?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/a2017-zte-nougat-rom-preview-t3478414
Hello everyone,
since the Nexus 6 isn't getting any updates from google anymore, I wonder how long the 6P will get updates?
I need a new phone and not sure if 6P is still a good choice ?
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Hello everyone, since the Nexus 6 isn't getting any updates from google anymore, I wonder how long the 6P will get updates? I need a new phone and not sure if 6P is still a good choice ?
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EOL for 5X and 6P is currently September 2017. This may or may not be extended. Development will continue long past then.
Whether it is a good choice depends on what kind of deal you can get on a new device. Would not advise buying a refurb.
I would expect the 6P to at least get Android O. Every Nexus device gets at least two major updates. So far we've only had one, so there should still be one left.
My friend, we are on XDA!
Nexus 6P will be supported till the end of the time!
Yep, this badboy device and XDA will continue rocking...
The N6 is still getting updates from google but only through maintenance/monthly security updates.
Past Nexus devices generally received incremental updates for 2 years with security updates long after. Whatever happens to the N6, we could expect for the 6P.
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2 to 3 more years
I have a 6p and while ROMs like Lineage and other aosp based roms give hope I am bailing from the 6p ship. The more popular roms have devs that no longer even have the device and are making many more updates to Pixel and V20. You have far to many popular roms that have not been updated since December or early January. The 6p is a bad ass phone though, if anything I'd keep it stock and rooted and just ride it like that for a daily driver until something else comes out. My old LG G2 has better commitment per ROM than this 6p, hell even my Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 still has devs updating roms. I don't see that happening with some of these stock based roms. It was reason I got rid of my Nexus 9.
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I have a 6p and while ROMs like Lineage and other aosp based roms give hope I am bailing from the 6p ship. The more popular roms have devs that no longer even have the device and are making many more updates to Pixel and V20. You have far to many popular roms that have not been updated since December or early January. The 6p is a bad ass phone though, if anything I'd keep it stock and rooted and just ride it like that for a daily driver until something else comes out. My old LG G2 has better commitment per ROM than this 6p, hell even my Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 still has devs updating roms. I don't see that happening with some of these stock based roms. It was reason I got rid of my Nexus 9.
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The Feb patch caused problems for many people with Substratum no longer working, extreme battery drain and wonky kernel settings--and if you fix the settings they don't survive a reboot. That may be why some roms aren't updated to the Feb patch. The rom I use was but a lot of people ended up returning to the January build.
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I wouldn't buy a 6P at this point even new because too many people have to RMA their phones because of the boot loop of death. And people are now reporting when they send in their phones they are getting back beat up refurbs with lots of visible wear and tear. You are better off buying something else.
I wouldn't bother. 6P was a fantastic phone but it's being abondended by Google. 7.1.2 beta isn't even out for it! The XDA forum for the 6P is getting quieter and quieter too. My 6P got the dreaded battery shutdown issue. Battery wasn't lasting anywhere near a day of medium usage.
Go for the pixel If you can afford it or get the one plus 3T which is what I'm using now.
Why is it taking so long to get the updates to the 6p lately? I noticed this a while back that the 6 and the 5x and the n7 and pixel the tablet not phone get their updates together and the 6p is a little while after that. Even the monthly security updates come a little later now. I am just wondering if it's something with huweia. I am getting nervous that we won't see the next version of android. Or it will take forever to get it.
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Why is it taking so long to get the updates to the 6p lately? I noticed this a while back that the 6 and the 5x and the n7 and pixel the tablet not phone get their updates together and the 6p is a little while after that. Even the monthly security updates come a little later now. I am just wondering if it's something with huweia. I am getting nervous that we won't see the next version of android. Or it will take forever to get it.
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That's why we have XDA. Even if Google suddenly stops supporting the 6p, and I highly doubt we'll miss the next version, XDA can get it up. Look at the Nexus 5, it's still supported
Yeah I know. I actually haven't even rooted this phone yet and it's been about a year!!! It just works. This is my first phone that I haven't rooted I was always a Samsung guy and right out the box it got rooted and AOSP based Roms. But anyway I plan on rooting and going the customer ROM route once Google stops supporting it officially. I was just wondering if someone knew why it is just the 6p that gets late updates. The 5x came out the same time and already has 7.1.2 dp
When I was considering buying a Oneplus 1+8 pro I was being told by YT influencers and media that if you like clean and good OS with frequent updates and longterm support that Oneplus is the way to go.
It has now been over 4 months since last update and AFAIK nothing is happening on that matter.
We have OB2 which is nowhere near being ready for daily driver. Even when it is released as stable I bet it will be even worse as what the current 10 is.
We have updates coming out for the 7 and Nord series but nothing for the 8.
If somebody wants to claim that there is nothing to update I will call them idiots. This OS is nowhere near to the level of the OSs I had on my previous Samsung and Apple phones. There are all sorts of issues which are not being addresed by Oneplus.
Am I the only one having a problem with that fact?
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There are monthly updates, we have to wait for android 11 like everyone else.
Use Oxygen updater or look here: https://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-8-pro-update-1108368/
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It has now been over 4 months since last update and AFAIK nothing is happening on that matter.
We have OB2 which is nowhere near being ready for daily driver. Even when it is released as stable I bet it will be even worse as what the current 10 is.
We have updates coming out for the 7 and Nord series but nothing for the 8.
If somebody wants to claim that there is nothing to update I will call them idiots. This OS is nowhere near to the level of the OSs I had on my previous Samsung and Apple phones. There are all sorts of issues which are not being addresed by Oneplus.
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1st - OB2 is like 3 weeks old, not 4 months. Hope you don't expect Stable A11 days after Pixels.
2nd - if you believe YT influencers, then I wish you good luck.
3rd - security updates are spot on.
4th - I use OB2 since the release day and have no complains. Eventually high battery use of Google Play Store app. Nothing crazy.
]1st - I was referring to stable A10. Latest update was released Aug 15, 2020. So not 4 months but 2. Still long time ago.
2nd -I cannot establish my own opinion since I have no chance to see these phones in person before purchase. Also this is nowadays normal and best way to buy stuff.
3rd - No they are not. The latest stable version is on August security patch. We are now in the middle of October. Even Samsung is pushing that as we speak.
4th - I use my phone for work so no I will not run beta SW on it.
Samsung are better with security updates, but oneplus will get android 11 first
No complaints with 8 Pro updates this year...
doctor78SI said:
When I was considering buying a Oneplus 1+8 pro I was being told by YT influencers and media that if you like clean and good OS with frequent updates and longterm support that Oneplus is the way to go.
It has now been over 4 months since last update and AFAIK nothing is happening on that matter.
We have OB2 which is nowhere near being ready for daily driver. Even when it is released as stable I bet it will be even worse as what the current 10 is.
We have updates coming out for the 7 and Nord series but nothing for the 8.
If somebody wants to claim that there is nothing to update I will call them idiots. This OS is nowhere near to the level of the OSs I had on my previous Samsung and Apple phones. There are all sorts of issues which are not being addresed by Oneplus.
Am I the only one having a problem with that fact?
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First off. Don't listen to YouTubers, and influencers, I think I would poke someone in the eye of they told me that's what they did for a job..
OnePlus absolutely smashes the other OEM's in regards to updates, Huawei, old HTC, Sammy, LG, Sony, sorry but none of them come close .
Pixel? Sure that's the source, but the shortcomings Vs pixel on the OnePlus, it makes up for with a bigger battery and IMHO a better Dev community and a course matched beta program.
You can't go wrong with OnePlus tbh.
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First off. Don't listen to YouTubers, and influencers, I think I would poke someone in the eye of they told me that's what they did for a job..
OnePlus absolutely smashes the other OEM's in regards to updates, Huawei, old HTC, Sammy, LG, Sony, sorry but none of them come close .
Pixel? Sure that's the source, but the shortcomings Vs pixel on the OnePlus, it makes up for with a bigger battery and IMHO a better Dev community and a course matched beta program.
You can't go wrong with OnePlus tbh.
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Based on this report your claims have no foundations to stand on. Oneplus released 12 updates since the phone launched but most of them were minor updates and fixed nothing. Only one major update. I would not classify that in the "smashing other OEMs" category.
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Based on this report your claims have no foundations to stand on. Oneplus released 12 updates since the phone launched but most of them were minor updates and fixed nothing. Only one major update. I would not classify that in the "smashing other OEMs" category.
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12 updates in 6 months is pretty good stats. Small or not. I have had all other brands and came back to OnePlus (I had the 6T as well). Even stock, it is a great OS. But, everyone has their own opinion.
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Based on this report your claims have no foundations to stand on. Oneplus released 12 updates since the phone launched but most of them were minor updates and fixed nothing. Only one major update. I would not classify that in the "smashing other OEMs" category.
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No foundations? Perhaps the fact that OnePlus actually release stable OS' in a timely manner with very little need to change anything, OOS is an extremely stable and fast skin for Android..very light too.
Security update comes out OnePlus gets it... new OS in development, we get it early.....to what OEM are you referring?
Huawei does not offer this speed nor does it offer a beta program like this, Samsung didn't either if memory serves, Sony was pitiful and splintered (as was Huawei (due to device variants /regions) LG (do people still buy these types of phones? Motorola (budget phone not in the same league)
I've had a lot of phones so I have some experience here, this is a public forum, you can take my advice or you can move on, what I won't do is try to convince you against something you appear to have an agenda towards, personally I can say without prejudice or bias that the OnePlus 8 pro is the best phone on the market right now, very few people would argue that point.
Updates are on point, end of story.
A good OEM won't release huge updates because they have nothing to fix, meaning it was done right the first time, a bad OEM will do the opposite, like Samsung releasing a £1500 phone with a camera that won't focus.
Oh wow just saw your end of post, you compared an android device to apple.
Oh dear.
Tell me can you Bluetooth files yet? Is apple still crippling it's OS due to an "update" ?
Don't compare any android device to apple you'll get very little sympathy here in that regard.
Samsung? Really? Exynos processor in the non US variants? And you're supporting them? Anyone who likes android or has an ounce of respect for themselves would boycott them and sign the petition to get Snapdragon in all their phones..
I wouldn't swap my OnePlus if you offered me both the iPhone XS and the ultra.
Lastly I and the absolute vast majority of people have not and do not have any issue with our OnePlus phone.
Fastest phone out not.
Battery life? I get 10 hours SOT consistently, even when gaming.
What issues are you referring to? If it's green tint (see above)