My Note worse than J2 how it's possible? - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

No matter what rom i use (stock, debloated stock or custom) my cousins new J2 performs better.
Opening apps = Draw
Touch Response = J2 wins
FPS (interface not gaming) = J2 wins
Note's display, camera and cpu might be better it can get better scores BUT her phone reacts my finger much faster also her phone always displays about 50 60 fps while my note draws 30 40 and sometimes skips frames. I hate my phone so much right now.

AMR-720 said:
No matter what rom i use (stock, debloated stock or custom) my cousins new J2 performs better.
Opening apps = Draw
Touch Response = J2 wins
FPS (interface not gaming) = J2 wins
Note's display, camera and cpu might be better it can get better scores BUT her phone reacts my finger much faster also her phone always displays about 50 60 fps while my note draws 30 40 and sometimes skips frames. I hate my phone so much right now.
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Do a benchmark test and see which 1 performs better.
If you use j2 for few days you will realize how much you miss note4 2k screen and s.pen features.
i sold my note 5 and bought note 4 cuz in.my opinion note 4 still better and worth with all the features that it has.
I agree some high graphics games lags and frame drops but i am not a gamer so most important for me is removable battery/ir blaster/microsd card 128gb+32 internal=160gb storage/1440p screen/and 16mp camera that still kick ass.
And most importantly here in xda dozens of roms available for note 4.

AMR-720 said:
No matter what rom i use (stock, debloated stock or custom) my cousins new J2 performs better.
Opening apps = Draw
Touch Response = J2 wins
FPS (interface not gaming) = J2 wins
Note's display, camera and cpu might be better it can get better scores BUT her phone reacts my finger much faster also her phone always displays about 50 60 fps while my note draws 30 40 and sometimes skips frames. I hate my phone so much right now.
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Honestly, you're are right
mine was too.
Recently relesed Gangstar New Orleans runs fine on my friend's j2 but lags on my note 4 a lot. Don't know whats the reason

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S4 vs note 2

can anyone tell me which phone is best for gaming s4 or note 2?
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both are good..
Since 4 is obviously a bigger number than 2, I would test them both yourself and then decide which you like best.
Personally I will go for note2..
There isn't any game that lags in note2
Battery-3100mah, undoubtedly above good
processor-very good(quad core)
Ram-2gb (same as s4)
Why not s4? Here's why-
Expensive than note2
Poor battery compared to note2
Phone heats up very quickly on hard gaming(it becomes so hot u can't even touch it)
Small screen(depends on u)
Not actual octa core (2Xquad core)
Rest is ur decision..I investigated a lot before choosing among both and then bought note2
S4 is more powerful in benchmark results so i guess it will be good for gaming
5 inch screen is not too small lol and also screen resolution of S4 is 1020 while its 720 in note 2
S4 is easy to hold with one hand for one hand operation i.e typing/texting
the only advantage of note is bigger battery and extra 0.5 inch screen
khankk42 said:
can anyone tell me which phone is best for gaming s4 or note 2?
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S4 cause it has better CPU and more important a faaar better gpu(the essential part for gaming) that support also OpenGL 3.0 +better display.
Note 2 also has good points (bigger screen and better battery) but overall the s4 is better for games.
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Well the S4 has more than twice as many pixels to shuffle around so it really needs the extra power. While the S4 has a sharper display (441ppi vs 265ppi) the Note2 is slightly bigger (5,5" vs 5.0"). If you have no need for the S-Pen I'd say, go with the S4... just make sure to keep a spare battery available.
Anyway I'd suggest you to wait for the s4 advanced,that will have a massively better gpu and a 20/25% better CPU(s800) or if you can get the the s4 lte-a (same as the s4 advanced but already on the market, HK and Korea only) that it is also 32gb ver.
IMO the best thing to do is wait a month to buy the s800 devices that will come out(Xperia z1,lg g2, note 3, nexus "5", and the htc one max)
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The Note 2 has a bigger screen but less pixels, s4 a small screen with more pixels. So the video peformance is not very different because the s4 needs more power to manage those extra pixels. And of course personal preference.
simply wait for Note 3 :good:
The battery on the Note 2 will easily last more than a full day even if you use your phone a lot. When I had the s4 it struggled to get to the end of the day. The 1080p screen uses a lot more juice than the 720p on the Note.
S4 is more powerful for gaming though that being said the Note 2 is still a beast.
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I've said this before, and I'll say this again,. you won't notice a difference in 720p vs 1080p unless you obsess over it and has a perfect vision. I have seen nothing different comparing both hand in hand, text is slightly crisper if you are being very anal about it. What you ought to consider though is price, if you use it for gaming, and the screen real estate vs one handed use.
Yosecret said:
The Note 2 has a bigger screen but less pixels, s4 a small screen with more pixels. So the video peformance is not very different because the s4 needs more power to manage those extra pixels. And of course personal preference.
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But you have to consider that most games are played at 720p even on the sgs4 so the difference(even at native resolution) is huge.
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Yosecret said:
The Note 2 has a bigger screen but less pixels, s4 a small screen with more pixels. So the video peformance is not very different because the s4 needs more power to manage those extra pixels. And of course personal preference.
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Actually the case is not as simple as "1080p is 2.25 times more pixels than 720p"..
Let's count Sub-pixels on Note 2; there are 3 sub-pixel for each pixel thus giving us the number of 3 x 720 x 1280 = 2764800
Let's count sub-pixels on S4; there are one blue sub-pixel for every pixel and there are one red and green sub-pixel for every two! pixels giving us the number 1920 x 1080 = 2073600 blue sub-pixels, 1920 x 1080 x 2(for red+green)/2(for sub-pixel sharing)=2073600.
In total = 2073600+2073600=4147200 sub-pixels.
The expected ratio= 2.25
The real ratio= 4147200/2764800=1.5
Still, the GPU has to push every image rendering for a 1080p calculation. This is why the power is wasted. It calculates everything 2.25 times more than a 720p GPU just to be able to draw it inon a 1.5 times sharper screen.
I am not against a 720p pentile screen because it pushes the 300ppi barrier so it can be more sharper for human eye in certain conditions, however a 1080p pentile screen with a "false/fake" 441ppi is just overkill for both the battery and the GPU..
I had the same choice. But am not a big gamer.
Went for the note 2 because:
- better battery
- bigger screen
- S pen
- cheaper
Also see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42623715
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khankk42 said:
can anyone tell me which phone is best for gaming s4 or note 2?
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There are obvious (minor) plusses and minuses to either one in terms of gaming. I think you should take everything that's been said and determine whats most important for you to have...bigger screen, more pixels, better CPU, etc. I game but wouldn't classify myself as a big gamer...I've used both and I think the experience is comparable.
For me is better Note 2 for play.. The bigger screen is a big help and is different to see. My friend, when they see me to play, say that like a different phone that theirs HTC one or GS4.. And also, with the same game, i don't see difference about power...
Get a PS3 or an XBOX 360
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Ive gone to s4 from note 2. Not much difference gaming at the min. The screen is brighter on s4 and is sharper but I still miss note 2. Although im feeling better with size in pocket and like design better.
Would I go back to note 2? Yes easily.
Ps battery lasts all day on s4
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Do you like to use MHL to output your phone's screen to a TV? If so, I very briefly got to try my Note 2 vs an S4 a few days ago and the latter struggled in Epic Citadel (as an example). In general terms the Note 2 felt slightly smoother everywhere when using MHL too (although the S4 can power the MHL adapter by itself which was quite a cool feature, though obviously the battery nose dived pretty quickly!).

Nexus 6 vs The Competition

Great article on AA showing the differences between the Nexus 6 and other devices in the phablet category.
To sum it up:
- The Nexus 6 has a great display to body ratio. It's only (slightly) beat by the LG G3 and Huawei Ascend Mate 7.
- The Nexus 6, as you probably know by now, has the top-of-the-line specs. Nothing really compares with it except the Note 4, which has similar specs.
- The Nexus 6 is slightly bigger than the Note 4 (Differences in mm: 5.8 x 4.4 x 1.5) but manages to fit in a display that is .26 inches larger and front facing stereo speakers.
I would probably say that the Nexus 6's biggest competitor is the OnePlus One. It offers high-end specs, not quite as high-end as the Note 4 but the differences are negligible. Granted, the Nexus 6 has a more premium build (in my opinion), OIS and is launching with Android L as opposed to waiting more than three months until the OnePlus One receives the L update. Furthermore, the Nexus 6 is going to be on more carriers, will probably have much better customer service, is easily available (once it's actually released) and hopefully won't be riddled with the bugs.
However, the Nexus 6 is twice as much as the OPO - $350 as opposed to $700 for the same amount of storage. Money talks...
Now the real question: The other flagships that are being compared to the Nexus 6 all offer something additional. For example, the Note 4 has an SPen and the Mate 7 also has a fingerprint sensor. The LG G3 and Note 4 both have removable battery, microsd support and multi-window modes. Are you willing to compromise these extra features to have stock android?
Source: AndroidAuthority
No fingerprint scanner is a bummer. I use corporate email on my Nexus 5 and the compliance software makes me have a lockscreen password which is a PITA. No patterns are allowed. iPhone 6 and 5S users can use the fingerprint scanner to bypass the password.
I'm considering the N6 as an upgrade from my much beloved N5, but there's two things that I need to see from the N6 before making the purchase.
#1- The amoled display. Recent offerings from Motorola have had 'middle of the road' amoled screens when compared to Samsung's recent amoled displays (Comparing the Moto X 2014 to a SGS5 or Note 4). If that big amoled is sub-par, I will pass.
#2- The camera. Again, this is the track record of the Nexus line having a less than favorable camera when compared to competing phones. I'm also not sold on the dual ring led flash right around the sensor (it creates red eye if you are shooting people - seen on the Moto X 2014)
What's weird is that when compared to the Note 4 $100 more out of pocket ($649 for 32gb N6 and $749 for 32gb Note 4 - basing pricing from T-Mobile) really does get you quite a bit more.
(Perhaps) better display (more color accurate/brighter)
Better camera (16mp vs 13mp) and better ff (2.0mp vs 3.7mp) camera - I know, it's not all about the mp, but the Note 4's camera has received a lot of praise for shooting in all lighting conditions
S Pen
MicroSD/removable battery (extends device life)
IR blaster
Fingerprint scanner
The decision isn't as easy as it was with getting the N5. It's not the size, it's the price. I just can't stand Samsung and Touchwiz, and with the N6 getting Wifi Calling for T-Mobile... Ugh. If the display and or the camera turn out to be disappointing perhaps I will sit this round and wait for the first 64 bit nexus phone next year.
Poor Graphics on Nexus 6?
Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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All appleinsider did there was read a benchmark result
Turns out from the note 4 reviews that it handles games beautifully
italia0101 said:
All appleinsider did there was read a benchmark result
Turns out from the note 4 reviews that it handles games beautifully
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Can you please add any benchmarks (FPS preferably) that corroborate this (I mean 30 fps is beautiful, but 50+ fps is what I would expect from a flagship)?
Far_SighT said:
Can you please add any benchmarks (FPS preferably) that corroborate this (I mean 30 fps is beautiful, but 50+ fps is what I would expect from a flagship)?
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Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
italia0101 said:
Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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Thanks! I will wait for a more thorough review when Nexus 6 comes out. I will probably get a Nexus 9 now as I don't have any tablet, and the 192 core kepler is built for graphics!
italia0101 said:
Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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Note the difference in display resolution. If you've ever done PC benchmarking, you'll know that plays a huge difference....
Luxferro said:
Note the difference in display resolution. If you've ever done PC benchmarking, you'll know that plays a huge difference....
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Without a doubt, that's why I thought I'd better list them, good thing a lot of Android games give us a resolution slider
Far_SighT said:
Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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No Android phone can top the iPhone when it comes to gaming. That's the primary reason why I always have an iPhone as well as Android. Playing the same game on my iPhone 6 and my Nexus 5, they always look and run better on the iPhone. Take a benchmark game like MC5- on Android a lot of the effects are turned off and it still runs better on the iPhone. Even the 5s had better gaming/graphics performance than the N5. I'd imagine it'll be the same thing with the N6.
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Far_SighT said:
Hi, I recently read a troubling article from appleinsider that claims that Nexus 6 graphics performance is sub-par (and Note 4) compared to Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Because of the source, I am taking this with a pinch of salt. I want to get a new device as my HTC Sensation XE is more than two years old, but, graphics (OpenGL 3) are an important point for me and I will probably get Nexus 9 + OPO/Xiaomi (which may have better graphics, due to smaller screen) if this is indeed the case. By graphics, I mean gaming, like, Modern Combat 5.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
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Apple's A7 SOC (iphone 5S) dominated most every benchmark. The A8 (so we are calling. We don't know the actual name) which is in iPhone 6 & 6+ is just the next generation of the same chip. It does very well and again dominates the benchmarks.
That doesn't mean a snapdragon 805 isn't good. It just means (in benchmarks at least) the A8 is better. However, we all know synthetics don't necessarily relate to real world use.
Apple is designing custom ARM chips for their own software in a closed system. Advantage Apple.
http://anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review
http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review
If you aren't reading anandtech reviews, you need to.
Also note that the N6 camera sensor is NOT THE SAME as Moto X 2014 camera.
N6 camera sensor is IMX 214, source: http://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html
This is the same camera sensor as One Plus One, source: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...mx214-6-lenses-and-low-light-performance.456/
Moto X 2014 camera sensor is IMX 135, source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...MX135-sensor-and-more-daytime-samples_id60299
However, the Note 4 is using newer camera sensor IMX 240, source: http://www.sammobile.com/2014/08/21...es-16mp-side-touch-wide-selfie-and-much-more/
So, the Nexus 6 camera should perform better than the Moto X 2014, while it might not be as good as Note 4, from sensor model perspective.
Then the deciding factor would be the camera "software"
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Apple's A7 SOC (iphone 5S) dominated most every benchmark. The A8 (so we are calling. We don't know the actual name) which is in iPhone 6 & 6+ is just the next generation of the same chip. It does very well and again dominates the benchmarks.
That doesn't mean a snapdragon 805 isn't good. It just means (in benchmarks at least) the A8 is better. However, we all know synthetics don't necessarily relate to real world use.
Apple is designing custom ARM chips for their own software in a closed system. Advantage Apple.
http://anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review
http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review
If you aren't reading anandtech reviews, you need to.
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Thanks. It seems N9 is the way to go for media consumption, considering it's GPU performance is the best available (afa i know). Besides, N6 price seems overkill to me. They could have stuck with 1080p. At 6 inches, I doubt anyone has the eyes to see the difference.
1080P 6in a foot away from your face, you may be able to tell. But I'd agree that the resolution is over kill. A silly decision. It's just a waste of performance and battery life to run quadHD.
I have committed to nexus for obvious reasons. There are things I get with the Nexus line I can't get anywhere else. I don't want a 6" phone. But it's the current nexus.
I'll wait for reviews to hit (mainly anandtech) and see if there are any glaring issues.
I love my nexus 5 so much I could use it for another year or until Ara hits. Only complaint is battery size.
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No Android phone can top the iPhone when it comes to gaming. That's the primary reason why I always have an iPhone as well as Android. Playing the same game on my iPhone 6 and my Nexus 5, they always look and run better on the iPhone. Take a benchmark game like MC5- on Android a lot of the effects are turned off and it still runs better on the iPhone. Even the 5s had better gaming/graphics performance than the N5. I'd imagine it'll be the same thing with the N6.
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agroan05 said:
Apple's A7 SOC (iphone 5S) dominated most every benchmark. The A8 (so we are calling. We don't know the actual name) which is in iPhone 6 & 6+ is just the next generation of the same chip. It does very well and again dominates the benchmarks.
That doesn't mean a snapdragon 805 isn't good. It just means (in benchmarks at least) the A8 is better. However, we all know synthetics don't necessarily relate to real world use.
Apple is designing custom ARM chips for their own software in a closed system. Advantage Apple.
http://anandtech.com/show/8613/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-review
http://anandtech.com/show/8554/the-iphone-6-review
If you aren't reading anandtech reviews, you need to.
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You can't compare GPU benchmarks done at much different resolutions. It has a huge difference on FPS.
To quote one of your links:
Once again, the Galaxy Note 4's GPU performance line up quite closely with what we expect from the Adreno 420. However, due to the higher 1440p resolution the performance improvements from the Adreno 420 are relatively small or none at all unless the application renders at 1080p.
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You can't say their SoC dominates the 805 unless you do an apples to apples comparison using the same resolution. If you want to say the iPhone 6 performs better, than X you can. But you should note differences in resolution.
msal said:
I would probably say that the Nexus 6's biggest competitor is the OnePlus One. It offers high-end specs, not quite as high-end as the Note 4 but the differences are negligible. Granted, the Nexus 6 has a more premium build (in my opinion), OIS and is launching with Android L as opposed to waiting more than three months until the OnePlus One receives the L update. Furthermore, the Nexus 6 is going to be on more carriers, will probably have much better customer service, is easily available (once it's actually released) and hopefully won't be riddled with the bugs.]
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I had the OnePlus One and the Moto X 2014, which is what the Nexus 6 design is based on.
The primary reason why I sold both of my OnePlus are:
-Design
-Signal/call quality.
The phone wasn't comfortable to use due to it's design. The signal quality simply wasn't as good. It take a while for me to drive to work and I tend to stream YouTube podcasts over LTE while driving, I didn't get very good LTE signal with the OPO so I had to use 3G most of the time, even then it wasn't as smooth experience as the Moto X 2013 and 2014.
The OnePlus is a great device for the money no doubt, but Motorola design is my favorite at this point, it's wasn't that much smaller than the OPO but it's so much more comfortable to hold and use. The OnePlus have this somewhat "sharp" edges and it wasn't comfortable in the pocket.
The Nexus 6 uses the same Sony sensor as the OPO, while some people didn't think highly of it, I personally got amazing results from it, especially if you know how to tune your shutter speed and ISO level. I love the 4K DCI recording on it too, which unfortunately will not be available on the Nexus 6.
Also you have to deal with yellow screen issue which I got, I had to put the phone under UV light to fix it, but it didn't completely remove it. And if you have issues and need to do an RMA, I heard the experience wasn't very good. Motorola have some complains too, but not the at the same level as OPO.
I like what OnePlus have to offer so I'll look forward to their next phone. But honestly, I already know that most likely it will also be based off whatever the next Oppo flagship phone is, except with corner cuts, and it's probably going to be very big with capacitive buttons, which is not for me. The Nexus 6 is too big for me too, but I'm mainly interested in it to use as a tablet and back up phone, not as my daily driver.
italia0101 said:
Well for example gfx benchmark (onscreen) manhatten , pre release benchmark
Nexus 6 :11.6 fps (2560x1440)
Note 4 :11.1 (2560x1440)
Iphone 6+: 18.4 fps (1920 x 1080)
Obviously these benchmarks are much more stressful than actual games... As I said from 3-4 note reviews I've seen they mention the gaming performance to be excellent with every game they threw at it
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The N4 and N6 are running over 50% of the iPhone at a huge increase in pixels pushed......
They need to show apples and apples. If they all ran at 1080 the N4 and N6 would run circles around the iPhone 6
Luxferro said:
You can't compare GPU benchmarks done at much different resolutions. It has a huge difference on FPS.
To quote one of your links:
You can't say their SoC dominates the 805 unless you do an apples to apples comparison using the same resolution. If you want to say the iPhone 6 performs better, than X you can. But you should note differences in resolution.
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Actually maybe half of those GPU benchmarks are "off screen". Which should remove any resolution handicap.
However, you are right. I discussed the SOC's themselves and then switched to device performance.
But the A8 is a serious chip. It competes with and possibly beats the 805 outright even when resolution is taken out of the equation.
No mention of Droid Turbo/Moto X Play?
This is looking like it will be the spec king of 2014.
Same specs as N6, but smaller screen (5.2), bigger battery (3900mah), and better camera (21mp)

Iphone 7 vs Galaxy S6 Edge Plus?

Iphone 6S Plus
Bad points
no removable battery
no SD Card slot
no true NFC
no real multitasking (Multi Window)
NO wireless charging
NO fast charging
NO wide selfi front camera
No back button
can't Customize
big bezels
No motions, no fitness, no double tab etc.
no dual speaker
can't close all apps at the same time
no widgets (real widgets)
not waterproof
no 2K screen,
lowest storage is still 16Gb
Good points
Excellent Build Quality
Look and feel in the hand
beautiful display
Fast updates for all
excellent battery and also in standby mood
Works Great with All devices like MAC and Ipad
excellent Keyboard, easy to use
3D Touch
best finger print Scanner (Super fast)
super fast CPU and GPU. excellent RAM management
iphone 6S Win's all android phones in speed test.
spotlight search
best voice assistant Siri
loving the Camera
excellent front camera flash
panorama shot
LIVE photos (its fun)
like the speaker (nice and loud)
worth more when re-selling
Apple pay is HOT
No lag (or very minimum lag)
what do you think about Iphone 7 will it be better then galaxy S6 Edge Plus?
This is like comparing a brick to a finely made plate.
Makes no sense
the reason is i don't want to keep getting a new phone every 2 years for updates, and updates are slow on android. but with iphone you get 5 years of update and updates are fast for all devices and you get more internal storage so i can install more games that are 2GB or 3GB in size. iphone you get 256GB internal storage.
Personal choise. Both device are exellent, my choice is android only and g928 for now. Best device to this moment, 7-8 hours sot, 10/10 standby time.

XA1 vs Galaxy A3 2017

Between this XA1's Helio P20 vs Samsung's Exynos 7870 (on the new Galaxy A3 2017) which you guys think would provide greater performance overall and leading to better battery life?
And in terms of camera and speakers which one you think is better?
Looking at battery test from GSMarena and Phonearena A3 is better (10 H 8 min vs 8 H 28 min and 93 hours vs 72 hours). But looking at benchmark test XA1 is better in performance. Also it has more RAM and internal memory.
I have started to not trust Sony with their "near stock" Android coz of seemingly eternal issues of overheating, slow camera boot, slow reset, slow app loading and poor battery life.
On the other hand the irony of ironies Samsung which has a skinned/slightly bloated Grace UX seem much more optimised. And yes Ive seen the GSMArena and PhoneArena reviews and battery life seem epic. Camera seem meh/so-so.

S10e upgrade

Hi guys,
Apologies if this is the wrong thread but wasn't sure where to post this.
Quick question....
I currently have the s10e. Is it worth upgrading to the note 10, s20 or s20+?
Main things for me are battery life, portability and performance, not bothered about the camera as I hardly ever use it.
Thanks
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blackrome0 said:
Hi guys,
Apologies if this is the wrong thread but wasn't sure where to post this.
Quick question....
I currently have the s10e. Is it worth upgrading to the note 10, s20 or s20+?
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Just don't get the exynos version.. and get s20>note10
I have the snapdragon s20plus U1
It is fantastic all around.
Only "issue" is face id is not reliable enough and fingerprint is not as good as the 7 pro I came from but works well after you get the muscle memory down.
I had the s10e and hell yes s20 would be nice upgrade imo. 120hz is very nice.
I'd recommend the plus but the regular s20 wouldn't be as big a jump in size for you as the plus would be.
Attached the trade in value on Samsung site.
I got 600 for a pixel 4 I paid 400 for.
Cheers
jasons1004 said:
Just don't get the exynos version.. and get s20>note10
I have the snapdragon s20plus U1
It is fantastic all around.
Only "issue" is face id is not reliable enough and fingerprint is not as good as the 7 pro I came from but works well after you get the muscle memory down.
I had the s10e and hell yes s20 would be nice upgrade imo. 120hz is very nice.
I'd recommend the plus but the regular s20 wouldn't be as big a jump in size for you as the plus would be.
Attached the trade in value on Samsung site.
I got 600 for a pixel 4 I paid 400 for.
Cheers
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Thanks for the reply Jason
The problem is that I'm in UK (London) so here we only have the exynos version. I'd have to import the Snapdragon version from a reputable website seller which I'll need to do research on
I kinda figured the s20 plus would be the sensible choice, but I keep thinking is the extra 500mah on the s20 plus worth the extra £100 from the regular s20
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I also switched from the S10e. Yes, it's bigger but after a few days you'll get used to it. I got the exynos version because I live in Romania, but I do not recommend. It gets pretty hot and the games play better on s10e(real racing 3). Battery life it's better with 120hz display. Tomorrow I'll get the snapdragon and for a few days I will have them both. I opened a thread in "discussion" and I'll post the differences.
Maybe pixel 4xl for you then (do not get regular P4) or maybe a oneplus? I would not get the exy s20 for sure.
I mean....the s10e still good too.
If you're coming from an S10E SD855 version then it wont be worth it unless they make some improvements or if the issues currently bogging people down is software related and will be fixed eventually on the Exynos 990 versions. The SD865 versions of the S20 is pretty much solid from battery life to not heating up as much = in turn not thermal throttling which leads to low fps in games and maybe some hitching/chugging when browsing regularly. If its software related and they can make improvements on it then it wouldn't be so bad.
Portability and Battery sizes are as follows:
s10e
5.8"
3100mAh
note10
6.3"
3500mAh
s20
6.2"
4000mAh
s20+
6.7"
4500mAh
If you don't game, get the Exynos, no issues
If you are still on the fence, here are some things to consider:
1. S20 and S10e are the same width, but S20 is 7% taller (5.97 mm vs 5.60 mm) so you'll have to stretch a little more to reach S20 notification panel
2. S20 display is 7% larger (6.2" vs 5.8")
3. S20 screen pixel density is 29% higher (566 ppi vs 438 ppi)
4. Screen-to-body ratio. S20 88.6% vs S10e 83.4%. That doesn't sound like much difference, but you see the difference when placed side-by-side
5. S20 battery is 29% larger (4000 mAh vs 3100 mAh)
6. S20 has twice as much RAM (12 GB vs 6 GB)
7. S20 camera is better
8. S20 will be supported longer
9. S10e fingerprint reader is better
10. S10e has 3.5 mm audio jack
sublimaze said:
If you are still on the fence, here are some things to consider:
1. S20 and S10e are the same width, but S20 is 7% taller (5.97 mm vs 5.60 mm) so you'll have to stretch a little more to reach S20 notification panel
2. S20 display is 7% larger (6.2" vs 5.8")
3. S20 screen pixel density is 29% higher (566 ppi vs 438 ppi)
4. Screen-to-body ratio. S20 88.6% vs S10e 83.4%. That doesn't sound like much difference, but you see the difference when placed side-by-side
5. S20 battery is 29% larger (4000 mAh vs 3100 mAh)
6. S20 has twice as much RAM (12 GB vs 6 GB)
7. S20 camera is better
8. S20 will be supported longer
9. S10e fingerprint reader is better
10. S10e has 3.5 mm audio jack
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You're right I am still on the fence, but looking at the s20+ now because of the bigger battery
I know it'll be a wider which I'll have to deal with, the tallness doesn't bother me though as I can just swipe down anywhere on the screen to bring down notifications (Nova)
Battery lasting all day is an absolute must
Not bothered about the camera, never really take any pictures of anything
Performance is a big thing, needs to be snappy like this s10e
Will for sure miss the headphone Jack. I was actually just now looking at the LG V60, looks like a sick device especially with that day and a half battery life, but is just waaaay to big
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blackrome0 said:
You're right I am still on the fence, but looking at the s20+ now because of the bigger battery
I know it'll be a wider which I'll have to deal with, the tallness doesn't bother me though as I can just swipe down anywhere on the screen to bring down notifications (Nova)
Battery lasting all day is an absolute must
Not bothered about the camera, never really take any pictures of anything
Performance is a big thing, needs to be snappy like this s10e
Will for sure miss the headphone Jack. I was actually just now looking at the LG V60, looks like a sick device especially with that day and a half battery life, but is just waaaay to big
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There isn't much difference in size between S10e and S20. However, you *will* feel the difference in size between S10e and S20+. The S20+ is noticeably taller and a little wider.
The S20 and S20+ have the same basic specifications. With the S20+ you are essentially paying $200 more for 8% larger display, 13% larger battery, mmWave 5G, and a time-of-flight sensor. Other than that, they are the same phone.
I almost bought a S20, but ended up getting the S20+ primarily for the larger battery. I had a Note 10, and the S20+ battery is noticeably better. It has never dropped below 20% before bedtime.
I also use Nova Launcher, and I set all developer option animations to 0.3x, and Nova look & feel and scroll speed animations to "Faster than light", and the S20+ flies. Multitasking is silky-smooth with 12 GB RAM, no hiccups for freezes whatsoever. I don't play a lot of games, but the games I do have are loaded quickly and I have not noticed any stuttering.
I thought I'd miss the headphone jack with my Note 10, but I got Galaxy Buds and they sound pretty good. I have some USB adapters for my wired buds, but I rarely use them. The Galaxy Buds aren't audiophile-level quality, so if you are a hardcore audiophile, then you probably want to stick with a phone with a 3.5 mm port.
As I mentioned before, the under display fingerprint reader of the S20 is really disappointing. The S20+ scanner reads my FP about 70% of the time. I've rescanned my finger many times, and I also setup the same finger as a "secondary finger", and it still works only 70% of the time. My Note 10 had the same FP reader, and it sucked too. I started using face recognition and PIN on my Note 10, and I do the same on my S20+.
Other than the crappy FP reader and no 3.5 mm port, the S20+ is pretty much flawless imo. I don't miss my Note 10 at all (I rarely used the Spen). I am sure you will enjoy a S20 or S20+. But whether it is worth $1000/1200 (minus whatever you get for your S10e) is up to you.

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