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Is t-mobile 2g faster than at&t's?

So I ordered my N1 yesterday, and currently have at&t. wasn't too worried about the whole 3g thing, because I figured one of the smart guys here at xda would figure out a way to make it work. After looking in to it further, I realize the hardware just won't allow that. I would just switch to T-mobile, but they have no 3g coverage anywhere near me yet. this brings me to my question. is it worth switching to tmobiles coverage for faster 2g possibly, or in the hopes that they'll soon expand their network. I don't mind getting out of my contract with at&t, tmobiles rates seem to be a lot better. I'm just wondering if anybody has heard anything on T-mobiles future plans.

I think most anecdotal evidence by most users is that EDGE on TMO is much faster than ATT. Why? Even though the "transport" 2G technology is the same, ATT still suffers from not enough bandwidth at its towers for all the heavy 3G areas due to heavy usage. -- In other words, backhaul contention.
Also, the fact that in places where there is no TMO 3G... EDGE works quite well for the very same reason... Even with towers that only have several T1/DS1's in place instead of T3/DS3's or fiber
Cheers,
Kermee

In NYC, where I have 3G coverage as well, EDGE tops out at 10-15KB/s

hurrycaine3000 said:
So I ordered my N1 yesterday, and currently have at&t. wasn't too worried about the whole 3g thing, because I figured one of the smart guys here at xda would figure out a way to make it work. After looking in to it further, I realize the hardware just won't allow that. I would just switch to T-mobile, but they have no 3g coverage anywhere near me yet. this brings me to my question. is it worth switching to tmobiles coverage for faster 2g possibly, or in the hopes that they'll soon expand their network. I don't mind getting out of my contract with at&t, tmobiles rates seem to be a lot better. I'm just wondering if anybody has heard anything on T-mobiles future plans.
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I personally have ran on EDGE for awhile on tmobile and have never had a problem with wifi while I am at home/school... however the 3g is nice, though my house seems to have 3g signals
its simple business really, though 1 man cannot make a difference... as the company grows, the service grows... verizon has the best service because it has the most customers... i think the reason tmobile has struggled in the US (as opposed to being the number 1 world wide carrier) is because of the lack of appeal from phones... with more phones rolling out and tmobile always having its doors open to unlocked phones i see the company gaining some momentum and it starts with these new android phones making it big as well as now having the fastest network in the nation...
ive had bad experiences with both verizon (contract issues) and att (terrible customer service), tmobile has yet to steer me wrong (other than not giving me an upgrade for the N1 haha)
with that said, try em out, idk if companies still let you trial their service for a week or so but you could ask?

i honestly cant tel a diff between edge and 3 g lol they both are friggin fast as hell

VoLoDaR1 said:
i honestly cant tel a diff between edge and 3 g lol they both are friggin fast as hell
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It all depends on what you're doing Tweeting and reading tweets... probably not so much
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Kermee

are you crazy? 3G is AT LEAST 10+ times as fast as EDGE.

I know on my touch pro using att 3g over edge. they have 3g where I work, but not at my house. so I always just use wifi at my house, but don't bother at work because the 3g is fast enough. I can definetly tell the difference. granted there is wifi almost everywhere these days, but with my touch pro I have to turn it off and on when I'm using it so my battery half makes through a day. It will be nice if the N1's is more of a automatic thing, if that makes sense. I guess if I knew that t Mobile would actually be implementing 3g in my area at all soon, it would be an easier decision, but I haven't found anything to make me think they'll be adding towers in York, PA any time soon.

Im in Dallas TX and just activated my phone. I was worried because people in some forums where saying phone kept switching to 2g. I just activated my phone and its been on 3 out of 4 bars on 3g last 30-40 minutes...I know this is kind of off topic, but thought it was important do to the nature of all the talk about speed on tmobile.
Ok im scared now, i just looked at the USA map on tmobile https://my.t-mobile.com/Plan/CoverageMap.aspx and looks to hardly be any 3g coverage! What! Tell me it aint so!

that's what I'm saying, I want 3g on this phone, but it's just not in my area on tmobile. we've established it's pretty much going to be impossible to get att's to work on this phone. It doesn't look like tmobile has 3g anywhere, atleast not hardly. what to do, what to do.

dallastx said:
Im in Dallas TX and just activated my phone. I was worried because people in some forums where saying phone kept switching to 2g. I just activated my phone and its been on 3 out of 4 bars on 3g last 30-40 minutes...I know this is kind of off topic, but thought it was important do to the nature of all the talk about speed on tmobile.
Ok im scared now, i just looked at the USA map on tmobile https://my.t-mobile.com/Plan/CoverageMap.aspx and looks to hardly be any 3g coverage! What! Tell me it aint so!
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thats called #4 carrier coverage
as for that map, its ancient... the thing has never worked properly and the maps take forever to load yet i wish i could get a decent detailed coverage map for tmobile somewhere...

hurrycaine3000 said:
I know on my touch pro using att 3g over edge. they have 3g where I work, but not at my house. so I always just use wifi at my house, but don't bother at work because the 3g is fast enough. I can definetly tell the difference. granted there is wifi almost everywhere these days, but with my touch pro I have to turn it off and on when I'm using it so my battery half makes through a day. It will be nice if the N1's is more of a automatic thing, if that makes sense. I guess if I knew that t Mobile would actually be implementing 3g in my area at all soon, it would be an easier decision, but I haven't found anything to make me think they'll be adding towers in York, PA any time soon.
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OMG i live in york to lol. ive asked tmobile many times if we'll ever have 3g and they told me december 09 but that never happened. who knows if we'll ever get it. but edge for me on tmobile works good unless u use media functions like youtube and streaming video but its good for web browsing and email

Make sure T-Mobile has EDGE all around your area because I've found that there are many places that don't even have EDGE on T-Mobile and are GRPS only. That being said, I do find that usually T-Mobile EDGE is faster.... The difference is so small that I wouldn't change networks over it though..

I get around 25KB/s or so, which works fine for streaming music and such. This is quite a bit faster than the AT&T users seem to get here.

Yeah you should be happy with what you've got. EDGE isn't amazing but at least with the 900mhz range you've got coverage. I'm not sure about T-mobile US thought but it has to be better than UK. I live in the UK just outside of town with 3 basestations surrounding my house just out of range with 2100 3g and 1800 2g. I can get signal occasionally with my Iphone 3gs, until I touch it...
The coverage is okish but I get Black-spots everywhere; literally, I can walk round the corner away from a basestation and lose signal. I can only use my phone if I'm underneath a basestation and even then the crappy 4.2Mbit/s (It may even be less than that) limited basestations are overloaded. Each user is then further capped at roughly 1.8Mbit/s
That's 3G and above, which I rarely get as I mentioned. When you get 2G you get EDGE. When I get 2G I don't get EDGE, I don't even get 2.5G, I get slower-than-dial-up GPRS which is unusable. None of T-mo UK's basestations are EDGE enabled; with common black-spots and poor 3G reception, this makes for an appalling network. I can't wait to switch to Three UK. Blanket UK 3g coverage with amazing deals: £15/mo rolling contract with 300 mins, unlimited texts, Unlimited (7.2Mbit/s) data. The only problem is they have shockingly bad phones (no problem for me, or so I thought...)

melterx12 said:
are you crazy? 3G is AT LEAST 10+ times as fast as EDGE.
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That pretty well sums up the problem with TMUS users.
They have no f***ing clue.

Who has AT&T service? If so pop in please..

Im going to leave sprint and go to AT&T. Now Im new to AT&Ts phones, and I was wondering a few things.
1. How are the speeds in general? With sprint I'll usually pull only .500-.700 mb under 3g but 4g is 5+mb in a good area. Usually I cant get 4g though.
2. Im unsure on their phones, so which phone is the top contender now? Anything new coming out soon that I should wait for?
Thanks guys.

AT&T is pretty expensive, Im using it just because I get a discount. But if that doesnt bother you, I believe you will like the service compared to Sprint (depends on area)
•HSPA+ speeds range from 3 to 7mbps depending on area compared to the .2 to .8 I used to get on Sprint. Not to mention its LTE if u are covered where it ranged from 8 to 20mbps average where I live
•AT&T is notorious for getting most of the top phones, its gonna release the HTC One X, Skyrocket HD, Nokia Lumia 900 and HTC Titan 2 soon, but right now the top phone is the Galaxy Note LTE ImO.
Another good advantage is that its bands are compatible with the interational unlokced phones you can import so you get fast 3G / 4G speeds on its network unlike TMobile.
all in all, if price isnt an issue, you will like the choices and services from my experience

Best phones on AT&T are the note and if you don't want/care for LTE then the galaxy s 2. (not sky rocket)
I can get any were form 2Mb DL to 7MB DL on 3g and 8-12DL on H+ "4g".
You should try and buy a 2G iphone and get unlimited data first and then buy what ever phone you want.
P.S Why not verizon?

Hmm. Thanks guys.. 4ktvs any info on the 2g loophole?
Im paying 141 a mth on sprint for two lines with a discount of 24%. The speeds SUCK! WE have unlimited data etc, 1800 landline minutes and free mobile to mobile etc.
We ( being my fiance and I ) use 200 mins a mth, if that. I use around 2gb average a mth. the most Ive done was 2.9gb a mth. So AT&T is around the same price but way faster, given less data. I also have 700 mins shared, unlimited text/mobile to mobile.
I dont think verizon can do anything more for me, as their plans seem to be a bit more.
edit: Why the SGII Over the skyrocket version?

The Lumia 900 will reach att soon. Honestly, I can't see anything else you can't get elsewhere. My speeds are excellent though, on 3g I get 1.3 dl. It's dependant on your region though.

z33dev33l said:
The Lumia 900 will reach att soon. Honestly, I can't see anything else you can't get elsewhere. My speeds are excellent though, on 3g I get 1.3 dl. It's dependant on your region though.
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what do you mean by" I cant see anything else you cant get where?" Sprints speeds suck. So I need to go with someone else. Verizon seemed more expensive, AT&T is almost the same price, but less mins, less data but faster speeds.
Tmo, Im guessing is out of the picture and Verizon is known for charging a lot more than others.

Well, pretty much every other big ticket phone has a clone on the other networks. That can't be said about the lumia 900.

mroneeyedboh said:
Hmm. Thanks guys.. 4ktvs any info on the 2g loophole?
Im paying 141 a mth on sprint for two lines with a discount of 24%. The speeds SUCK! WE have unlimited data etc, 1800 landline minutes and free mobile to mobile etc.
We ( being my fiance and I ) use 200 mins a mth, if that. I use around 2gb average a mth. the most Ive done was 2.9gb a mth. So AT&T is around the same price but way faster, given less data. I also have 700 mins shared, unlimited text/mobile to mobile.
I dont think verizon can do anything more for me, as their plans seem to be a bit more.
edit: Why the SGII Over the skyrocket version?
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1) I am not 100% it works any more, but if you buy a iphone 2g and reset it to stock and put a sim in it to sign up for a plan with itunes, then unlimited data should be up there, if not try calling AT&T and tell them you got an iphone 2g and it needs the unlimited data plan to work right and update.
2)The non skyrocket has a better CPU. I have tryed both and I think you would likely like that one better and it cost less. The 900 won't come out for about 30 or so days, but if you can wait you may want to get one.
3) If you want a phone with 4gLTE then the note is better than the skyrocket.( the 1280x800 oled 5.3 vs 4.5 800x480. That is a lot lower rez)
If you are/can wait, then the 900 for 100 is not bad or what will likely be one of the best phones of the year the HTC ONE X would be a good pick and if you are/can wait, go for that one.( Is called the one x and I just called it the one. lol)

lolthanks man. I think I seen someone said they did it recently and it still worked.. I 'll look into the iphone 2g loop.

Lets bump this for the late night crew

T-Mobile has 2 lines unlimited everything for $100.I usually get about 23.mbps on 4g.
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I would just say to try all the phones that you think you would like and pick it based on what it is now.

OP, my take here.
If you want speed, I guess ATT and Verizon are good choices.
Both are expensive.
Both are trying to rip us off.
Both have top-notch phones.
Verizon is well-known for coverage, better if not much better than ATT coverage.
Verizon has better LTE coverage. LTE means faster and also mean draining phone's battery faster. Take your choice.
Verizon utilizes the CDMA technology while ATT using GSM.
GSM => you can unlock and use with other GSM providers, especially handy when travel abroad.
GSM => you can talk AND surf at the same time, CMDA can't.
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Also, I don't know about Verizon but ATT does have free mobile-to-mobile minutes so take advanced of it.

I agree..I have had Att and Verizon...for me Att had been better...the gsm feature itself is nice if you break your phone..pop the Sim on another phone and keep going...there customer service sucks but if you ask for the resolutions department...they will give you about anything to make you happy...hence my wifes skyrocket 6 months before upgrade was available
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I've had AT&T for about 6 years now, I've never had a problem with service, dropped calls, poor signal, etc.
They've never wowed me, but I've not had a single problem that I can recall. I think people just like to complain about stuff. Everyone I know hates whatever carrier they're on, so pick the phone you like best and go with it

votinh said:
OP, my take here.
If you want speed, I guess ATT and Verizon are good choices.
Both are expensive.
Both are trying to rip us off.
Both have top-notch phones.
Verizon is well-known for coverage, better if not much better than ATT coverage.
Verizon has better LTE coverage. LTE means faster and also mean draining phone's battery faster. Take your choice.
Verizon utilizes the CDMA technology while ATT using GSM.
GSM => you can unlock and use with other GSM providers, especially handy when travel abroad.
GSM => you can talk AND surf at the same time, CMDA can't.
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Also, I don't know about Verizon but ATT does have free mobile-to-mobile minutes so take advanced of it.
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my cdma phone can talk and surf at same time. all newer phones on verizon seem to be coming out with this functionality. needless to say, I've never actually needed to use this feature so find no advantage with it.

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On the Rezound you can talk and surf while on 3G as well.
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votinh said:
OP, my take here.
If you want speed, I guess ATT and Verizon are good choices.
Both are expensive.
Both are trying to rip us off.
Both have top-notch phones.
Verizon is well-known for coverage, better if not much better than ATT coverage.
Verizon has better LTE coverage. LTE means faster and also mean draining phone's battery faster. Take your choice.
Verizon utilizes the CDMA technology while ATT using GSM.
GSM => you can unlock and use with other GSM providers, especially handy when travel abroad.
GSM => you can talk AND surf at the same time, CMDA can't.
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Also, I don't know about Verizon but ATT does have free mobile-to-mobile minutes so take advanced of it.
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I heard AT&T are working on shared data plans for family plans. Instead of $30 every month for each phone that has a data plan, there will be a shared option in the near future. This will be pretty interesting.

It is really up to which carrier has the best coverage where you mainly reside. AT&T is pretty good since you have unlimited mobile to any mobile now. I barely tap into my 450 minutes and i have rollover minutes for days. I honestly say my choice came down to which one would be more economical but a better bang for my buck. AT&T ended up being that. 1. I don't pay for phone insurance because if our phones get stolen it would cost all of $25 dollars to get a cheap phone and a free replacement sim. To me being based on GSM is worth more. As far as internet speeds and all that I say it doesn't matter when it comes to our cell phones. The combination of chipsets and software.

Best phone for radio (4g lte) on Verizon

Background: Back when I had unlimited data on verizon I had the HTC Thunderbolt which in my opinion is still one of my favorite phones. I do not recall the decibel strength exactly, but I only had a "couple of bars" and could get 40/30mbps (down/up) with the 4g in my area.
Anyhow, that phone broke (boot looping) and I ended up upgrading to the HTC DNA but really only get about 20/10 ("full bars") speeds now. I am not sure if I should suspect the phone being the issue (radio drivers/hardware) or maybe more of the bandwidth is being used (more people getting 4g phones) or if Verizon has simply been throttling their end in the past few years?
It may not matter right now, but I am planning on buying a grandfathered unlimited plan and start using it as my main internet connection. Also some people have told me to just use a normal hotspot (already have one) but I like having the phone as then I can tweek it more and use bluetooth to make a VOIP home phone, etc. Now I can not wait til 5g if I have unlimited data
Thanks for the suggestions.

It is most likely that a lot of people using the 4G LTE Internet(like you thought it was).
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could also be that your 4G LTE signal is not that strong. There is one thing you need to know, the bars dont tell you your 3G/4G signal, It tell you your Calling/Voice signal strength.

JBmorris said:
It is most likely that a lot of people using the 4G LTE Internet(like you thought it was).
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could also be that your 4G LTE signal is not that strong. There is one thing you need to know, the bars dont tell you your 3G/4G signal, It tell you your Calling/Voice signal strength.
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That is what I assumed. But I am still curious if anyone knows of a good phone that has a stable radio that they know of. It may sound weird but even with 2 phones in the same area w/ same provider (etc) I can have 10mbps difference between the two.
And I will be moving to dead center of Toledo soon, so strength should not be that bad.
Oh, PS: It may help if I can attach an antenna to the phone - I know some phones allow this, but don't think all can.

In general, Motorola devices have the best/most stable radios.

Buy a 3G/4G Dongle
kyij said:
That is what I assumed. But I am still curious if anyone knows of a good phone that has a stable radio that they know of. It may sound weird but even with 2 phones in the same area w/ same provider (etc) I can have 10mbps difference between the two.
And I will be moving to dead center of Toledo soon, so strength should not be that bad.
Oh, PS: It may help if I can attach an antenna to the phone - I know some phones allow this, but don't think all can.
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You could buy a Dongle and plug it in into an Android device. You could Get Some dongles at Amazon. Or eBay. If you want an antenna for your phone.

kyij said:
That is what I assumed. But I am still curious if anyone knows of a good phone that has a stable radio that they know of. It may sound weird but even with 2 phones in the same area w/ same provider (etc) I can have 10mbps difference between the two.
And I will be moving to dead center of Toledo soon, so strength should not be that bad.
Oh, PS: It may help if I can attach an antenna to the phone - I know some phones allow this, but don't think all can.
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well, for the stable radios on phones, I'm not even sure with is the most stable.

what antenna?
Btw, What antenna are you actually talking about?

[Q] N9005 on AT&T and HSPA+ only getting 0.62Mbps down

I just got an n9005 and while I understood it would not be 4G I expected HSPA+ at around 6 or 7Mbps which to be fair is about all my previous SIII 4G phone from AT&T would get, but when I swapped out the card, and entered the APN I can get now get HSPA+, but only at 0.62Mbps down and 0.6Mbps up, which well is not really worth it, I really do not want to switch phones, what a waste, and I understand HSPA+ it should be able to do 6+, yet I'm not seeing any close to that. I'm in NY City so signal is no issue, just can not work out why I have no speed at all on the N9005 unit.
Thanks,
ERIC

How old is your SIMcard? This is usually an Old SIM meets New Phone problem.

egandt said:
I just got an n9005 and while I understood it would not be 4G I expected HSPA+ at around 6 or 7Mbps which to be fair is about all my previous SIII 4G phone from AT&T would get, but when I swapped out the card, and entered the APN I can get now get HSPA+, but only at 0.62Mbps down and 0.6Mbps up, which well is not really worth it, I really do not want to switch phones, what a waste, and I understand HSPA+ it should be able to do 6+, yet I'm not seeing any close to that. I'm in NY City so signal is no issue, just can not work out why I have no speed at all on the N9005 unit.
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ERIC
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What is the HSPA+ speed on your previous S3?
It may be due to the heavy traffic on your network. Try to test on another time (late night) or another location?
You can also complain with you service provider for the issue. Other users may also face with the problem as you.

SIM is only a year old. As for the old phone it gets 3Mbps+ .
I will try late tonight to see what happens.
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ERIC

Sprint/T-mobile Internet speeds.

Sprint users have you noticed faster internet speeds? I received an update on 4/22 follow by the message about T-mobile allowing us to tap into their 5G. However, this afternoon when i got home my browsing was a bit snappy. I did a speed test on two different apps and was pulling 140 to 160 Mbps where before I was only getting 12-24 Mbps.

I got the same text, unfortunately I still have yet to get a software update to use the 5g from tmobile.

I just got the phone today, the note 8 on LTE was doing over 30mbps, I turned this on, 5G kicked on automatically and speeds at 24mbps lol. I saw this post, and checking for updates now to see if I can tap into Tmo 5g.
Is the software you have installed G988USQU1ATD6?

I haven't got 5g didn't connect to 5g for a few mins while traveling, I have noticed through signal checker being on band 2 lte at home very crappy sprint lte after profile and prl update so have been able to test speeds, before update I had excellent service on sprint

I had the software upgrade earlier this month. Today at work I had crappy service sending and receiving texts and slow network speeds. Now at home my status bar shows Sprint|SPRINT and have 5g. But with speeds of 2.5 up and .5 down at best.
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Here is my chat with tech support:
Tim B: 9:08PMActually your address has 4G network, it catches the 5G signal but do not support. That is why it does not work on 5G, I can see the 5G is extending to your area, and soon you will hear a good news. Then once you connect it to 5G, it will be 10 times faster then 4G.
You: 9:09PMSo I am not the only customer with this issue in this area?
Tim B: 9:09PMYou are right.
You: 9:10PMSo I should keep my network set to 4g and avoid 5g until further notice?
Tim B: 9:10PMYou are correct.

I took a few speed tests while connected to 5G in north Florida. at best 24mbps, throughout the day it's around 1-3mbps. I'm assuming it's on one of t-mobiles low bands.
edit: I was on band 2. I used that app in another thread to only select a few to choose from, it jumped on band 66 and speeds ~100mbps. Nice.

ajent said:
I just got the phone today, the note 8 on LTE was doing over 30mbps, I turned this on, 5G kicked on automatically and speeds at 24mbps lol. I saw this post, and checking for updates now to see if I can tap into Tmo 5g.
Is the software you have installed G988USQU1ATD6?
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You don't have 5g capability with a Note 8...

mistermidas said:
You don't have 5g capability with a Note 8...
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I agree?

sanmanc said:
Here is my chat with tech support:
Tim B: 9:08PM Actually your address has 4G network, it catches the 5G signal but do not support. That is why it does not work on 5G, I can see the 5G is extending to your area, and soon you will hear a good news. Then once you connect it to 5G, it will be 10 times faster then 4G.
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Lmao. Don't hold your breath.
I am in a 5G area and it is barely faster than LTE. However, I *do* get service in areas that I didn't have service before, so that is a definite improvement.

sublimaze said:
Lmao. Don't hold your breath.
I am in a 5G area and it is barely faster than LTE. However, I *do* get service in areas that I didn't have service before, so that is a definite improvement.
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Yeah, I don't really notice a huge speed difference. But I purposely went to three areas in my city that I usually don't get any reception or bad reception, and I was able to a decent signal now. So I'm definitely glad about that, since I do Doordash part-time and need my internet to work doing those deliveries.

At my house on T-Mobile I’m getting about 80 d/l and 6 u/l on 5g, and 150 d/l and 25 u/l on 4g. Pretty unimpressed so far. With the jump from 3g to 4g there was a huge, tangible difference in speeds. I certainly didn’t lose speed.

I am on Sprint and getting 5G. At night, I got 71.4Mbps speed. I don't exactly remember the day but I think it was around 30-35Mbps

stevessvt said:
At my house on T-Mobile I’m getting about 80 d/l and 6 u/l on 5g, and 150 d/l and 25 u/l on 4g. Pretty unimpressed so far. With the jump from 3g to 4g there was a huge, tangible difference in speeds. I certainly didn’t lose speed.
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80 is about right for tmo/spr nationwide 5g.. u have to keep in mind theres 3 different 5g networks.. nationwide uses the low end which allows for more coverage but slower speeds which is what most are on..
sprint was using mid band which i pulled over 500 consistently (im in phoenix) but since the merger and about 2 weeks ago they cut the mid band from sprint in favor of tmo 5g network making my s10 5g and 7pro5g no longer able to connect to 5g networm as theyre not compatible..
basically cureently most are stuck with low band nationwide 5g as they expand their mid range and only certain urban areas will get mmWave which is 1gb+ speeds..
mmWave requires thousands of towers in covered areas as it doesnt have as much range..
what i am saying is itll get better as time goes and most other carriers dont even have a 5g connection across the us so tmo is ahead of the game..
also dont expect 1gb+ mmwave 5g anytime soon or at all unless u live in an urban area

avid_droid said:
My 4g at work has greatly improved at 208mb/s download and a not so great 14mb/s upload. That's here in Hawaii.
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thats bot bad at all

You're not gonna notice any speed difference on TMobile 5g. Sprints 5g has the best if both worlds. Good penetration through objects and faster than 4g with better latency. Too bad it's not available to all TMobile customers yet. That's what I'm waiting for...

chetly968 said:
You're not gonna notice any speed difference on TMobile 5g. Sprints 5g has the best if both worlds. Good penetration through objects and faster than 4g with better latency. Too bad it's not available to all TMobile customers yet. That's what I'm waiting for...
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lmao
sprints 5g is also being disabled if not already in favor of tmobile 5g network.. if u read any news ud know even that sprints own 5g devices r no longer able to connect to 5g as of 4/28 except for the s20 5g devices which connect to tmo nationwide 5g now.
on the bright side sprimt customers that had older 5g devices such as s10 5g are being allowed to trade in devife for s20 5g devices at discounted rates if they receive a targeted offer from sprint.

elliwigy said:
lmao
sprints 5g is also being disabled if not already in favor of tmobile 5g network.. if u read any news ud know even that sprints own 5g devices r no longer able to connect to 5g as of 4/28 except for the s20 5g devices which connect to tmo nationwide 5g now.
on the bright side sprimt customers that had older 5g devices such as s10 5g are being allowed to trade in devife for s20 5g devices at discounted rates if they receive a targeted offer from sprint.
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Wow that's totally weird cause TMobile themselves said they are allowing their TMobile customers in New York and Pennsylvania to use sprints 5g service. I guess I should've known that when they said they are expanding their TMobile service to include sprints 5g that it a actually meant they are removing the service. They need to work better on their communication.

chetly968 said:
Wow that's totally weird cause TMobile themselves said they are allowing their TMobile customers in New York and Pennsylvania to use sprints 5g service. I guess I should've known that when they said they are expanding their TMobile service to include sprints 5g that it a actually meant they are removing the service. They need to work better on their communication.
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not sure when u read that but if it was a while ago then it mightve changed since u last read it.

avid_droid said:
I don't know about the who's or whats,but, elliwigy, you working on.a root or is it unable? Haha. I would try seeking internal stuff,but, over the past few years, I've gotten extremely lazy. And almost a year in jail made me forget about a lot of stuff.
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It was last week. But I guess, again, when they say something they obviously mean the opposite of what they said. Those New York residents are just magically getting increased speeds.

Since the merger my speeds doubled since March. I am on tmobile five miles from NYC. Basically the other side of the Hudson River in NJ. 120mbps up and 60mbs down. Its not the greatest but its still good.