Updating firmware confusion - Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers

Can someone please explain to me the importance of updating firmware?
What exactly is firmware that only Motorola can touch?
Why can't this be included while installing a ROM?
Does Motorola somehow have the capability to touch a certain partition that we cannot?
If you flash official Motorola stock ROM, how does it differ from flashing custom ROM?They cannot do the same thing?
Lastly, if the Samsung galaxy S3 is already running 7.1, then why must we update "firmware"?
I know for a certainty Samsung stopped pushing updates long ago for the S3. Please help I'm very confused by this! I've never known to do this in all my years of flashing yet you all keep mentioning it here! Only thing I've known to flash outside of ROM was the radio/modem/baseband whatever you wanna call it. And that was a flashable zip.
How can old phones get new custom ROMs if there are no official releases for current "firmware"? Thanks all! Links and input appreciated!
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Updating the firmware is necessary because the firmware brings a newer version of bootloader and for it to be compatible you need the latest version of bootloader (B1.03 right now)

Other phones need firmware or driver updates too. Sometimes they can be baked into the rom or an additional zip. It's up to the manufacturer how they deploy drivers.
Also the well known sim on/off switch is a driver inside the modem. And if the manufacturer don't release the source you cannot see the changes and need the stock rom/files to flash them prior the custom rom to get newer drivers.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/want-to-understand-explain-n-firmware-t3517850 for some more information.

Hey guys , my wifi isn't working and i cant upgrade to nougat ,while upgrading the file starts to install and then the phone reboots into recovery and stops there plz help ! Is this because of root ? But i have removed my root and twrp recovery ...... and after that i tried ota nougat zip file but it didnt flash

Nik11_98 said:
Hey guys , my wifi isn't working and i cant upgrade to nougat ,while upgrading the file starts to install and then the phone reboots into recovery and stops there plz help ! Is this because of root ? But i have removed my root and twrp recovery ...... and after that i tried ota nougat zip file but it didnt flash
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Don't discuss here, ask your question in the thread you're following the instructions to upgrade to nougat please. BTW Your given information is not specified enough to help you out.

Thanks everyone for your assistance! I appreciate the information.
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How rooting and stock firmware updates work on Moto X Play?

So, I'm coming from a "dead" Sammy Galaxy S3. I want to know of you, Moto users, how are these things on Moto X Play. I mean..
In my dead S3, I rooted using Odin and, when stock updates still existed, I was unable to update on phone and had to use Odin to flash the whole rom. After this, the root access disappear and I had to root it again using Odin.
How this things works on Motorola devices? I have already learned how to root the X Play but, after rooting, how do I update my stock firmware when any update become available? Do I have to update in the phone in the stock method (like a dream :fingers-crossed or Motorola devices got a flashing tool such as Odin?
Thanks since now
Totemic_tHiRp said:
So, I'm coming from a "dead" Sammy Galaxy S3. I want to know of you, Moto users, how are these things no Moto X Play. I mean..
In my dead S3, I rooted using Odin and, when stock updates still existed, I was unable to update on phone and had to use Odin to flash the whole rom. After this, the root access disappear and I had to root it again using Odin.
How this things works on Motorola devices? I have already learned how to root the X Play but, after rooting, how do I update my stock firmware when any update become available? Do I have to update in the phone in the stock method (like a dream :fingers-crossed or Motorola devices got a flashing tool such as Odin?
Thanks since now
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Just download the file, unzip, and then manually flash using fastboot. There is a Moto tool you could use as well I believe, but I prefer fastboot. Gives you a better sense overall of what's happening, and you know what you are doing.
dictionary said:
Just download the file, unzip, and then manually flash using fastboot. There is a Moto tool you could use as well I believe, but I prefer fastboot. Gives you a better sense overall of what's happening, and you know what you are doing.
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"just download the file" You mean, the firmware file, right? Is there a "samfirmware" from Motorola?
So, considering that this is the method used to flash a stock firmware over a rooted-stock firmware, what happens to the root access?
Root will go away unless you find a pre-rooted system image. Pretty much what would happen with a stock firmware file for any phone
My main question is: How is the process to back to a stock rom after rooting and installing TWRP or something like that?
More than likely you would download a stock image file from Motorola and install it using the "fastboot" command on your computer
Moto X Play INDIAN firmware
Can someone please upload the INDIAN firmware for moto x play dual sim?
Well, it's been some days that I created this thread. Now I know it's neccessary to remove root and reflash stock firmware on MXP to update for 6.0 update, for example (the same process as other Moto devices) . I never did this, but i'm not afraid because we got XDA and we have a lot of tutorials explaining how to do these things. The "scary" part is that a I see a lot of people asking for full firmwares and etc. I mean, I know the firmware from my region is different than the others (and this can easily mess firmware's modem or something like that - messing the imei also).
If we only had a "deposit" of firmwares like samfirware for sammy devices...
I've been looking in some forums about this questions and I found this: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/91999/p/1449,8620
it gave me to understand that, If I unlock the bootloader of my phone and root it, but not installing custom recovery (for example), I'll still be able to receive and install successfully OTA updates?
- Edit: I forgot that TWRP is need to install superSU.
Totemic_tHiRp said:
Well, it's been some days that I created this thread. Now I know it's neccessary to remove root and reflash stock firmware on MXP to update for 6.0 update, for example (the same process as other Moto devices) . I never did this, but i'm not afraid because we got XDA and we have a lot of tutorials explaining how to do these things. The "scary" part is that a I see a lot of people asking for full firmwares and etc. I mean, I know the firmware from my region is different than the others (and this can easily mess firmware's modem or something like that - messing the imei also).
If we only had a "deposit" of firmwares like samfirware for sammy devices...
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I've posted a fastboot guide and a link to a stock firmware thread In the second post of this thread. If you can't find the image you're looking for just ask in that firmware thread, it's been getting updated regularly.
Hi people!! Sorry for this question, but I am new at this android community, so I have the moto x play and I with like to know if it is possible to put kitkat on moto x play because lollipop is so bad for this device. Thanks for your time and have a great day.
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Correct flash order for rooting a stock firmware?

Hi guys
I recently moved to the note 4 910F from another device.
As I have always favored custom roms ( regardless if I was using a samsung or LG or another brand device ).
The problem I am facing now is that the xda Note4 forum seems to be incredibly messed up. There are literally tens of threads with useless information and whole new threads just for one download link or something.
If someone new like me comes to the Note 4 forum he will not know where to start. The previoux device I used had a beautifully organized XDA section.
Anyway. What I did until now was to flash :
1. flashed cf-root over the stock firmware and verified that it worked
2. installed busybox
3. tried to install TWRP as I have always used it . But , Their page said to make sure I have the correct bootloader installed.
So, I got back to the rom page that I wanted to use and the dev had links there for the correct bootloader and modem. Downloaded and flashed them with odin. Now my device was restarting every 1 minute or so and I no longer had any IMEI and baseband version was unknown
I fixed it by flasks the stock firmware with odin
Can you guys help me out with some correct information on how to be able to flash a custom rom ? I know how to root it but what bootloader do I need in order to install the custom recovery and flash a new rom ?
Thank you in advance.

Has anyone successfully rooted Samsung Galaxy SMJ-500F 6.0.1 Marshmallow India?

Hello I am Yohan, newly registered member but an ardent follower of XDA forums and developers since the past one year. XDA has educated me in so many different things and I have enjoyed full freedom on my android devices ever since.
Now am using Samsung's SMJ500F 6.0.1 Marshmallow, and it seems almost impossible to find a working root method for this. Being a powerful device, all the bloatware is lagging down it's performance.
I have tried,
1. ODIN method (both TWRP and custom firmware), Result: Brick.
2. KingRoot (no strategy available).
3. Flashing SuperSU.zip using TWRP, failed. Result: Brick.
I can't even recall all the methods I've tried and the sites I've visited cause there is so many. I have bricked my device so many times, that the service centre guy is like "Here he comes again".
So my question is, has anyone successfully rooted Samsung Galaxy J500F 6.0.1 Marshmallow, and if so please do share it with the community, and if any developer can come up with a pre rooted SMJ500F 6.0.1 firmware, it'll be much appreciated. Hope to see your replies soon.
yohan1 said:
Hello I am Yohan, newly registered member but an ardent follower of XDA forums and developers since the past one year. XDA has educated me in so many different things and I have enjoyed full freedom on my android devices ever since.
Now am using Samsung's SMJ500F 6.0.1 Marshmallow, and it seems almost impossible to find a working root method for this. Being a powerful device, all the bloatware is lagging down it's performance.
I have tried,
1. ODIN method (both TWRP and custom firmware), Result: Brick.
2. KingRoot (no strategy available).
3. Flashing SuperSU.zip using TWRP, failed. Result: Brick.
I can't even recall all the methods I've tried and the sites I've visited cause there is so many. I have bricked my device so many times, that the service centre guy is like "Here he comes again".
So my question is, has anyone successfully rooted Samsung Galaxy J500F 6.0.1 Marshmallow, and if so please do share it with the community, and if any developer can come up with a pre rooted SMJ500F 6.0.1 firmware, it'll be much appreciated. Hope to see your replies soon.
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Which SuperSU zip did you flash using TWRP? And what error did you get?
I have a J500FN. When I tried Marshmallow 6.0.1, I installed TWRP, then latest SuperSU zip and it got rooted without problems.
Try to flash:
1. Stable: http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu-stable .
2. Latest: http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu .
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Which SuperSU zip did you flash using TWRP? And what error did you get?
I have a J500FN. When I tried Marshmallow 6.0.1, I installed TWRP, then latest SuperSU zip and it got rooted without problems.
Try to flash:
1. Stable: http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu-stable .
2. Latest: http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu .
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Works with 2. - https://download.chainfire.eu/1014/SuperSU/SR5-SuperSU-v2.78-SR5-20161130091551.zip . I tested it.
yohan1 said:
Hello I am Yohan, newly registered member but an ardent follower of XDA forums and developers since the past one year. XDA has educated me in so many different things and I have enjoyed full freedom on my android devices ever since.
Now am using Samsung's SMJ500F 6.0.1 Marshmallow, and it seems almost impossible to find a working root method for this. Being a powerful device, all the bloatware is lagging down it's performance.
I have tried,
1. ODIN method (both TWRP and custom firmware), Result: Brick.
2. KingRoot (no strategy available).
3. Flashing SuperSU.zip using TWRP, failed. Result: Brick.
I can't even recall all the methods I've tried and the sites I've visited cause there is so many. I have bricked my device so many times, that the service centre guy is like "Here he comes again".
So my question is, has anyone successfully rooted Samsung Galaxy J500F 6.0.1 Marshmallow, and if so please do share it with the community, and if any developer can come up with a pre rooted SMJ500F 6.0.1 firmware, it'll be much appreciated. Hope to see your replies soon.
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If using kingroot then just make sure you are connected to wifi or mobile data as you need it for finding strategies. I would prefer TWRP method and then flash SuperSu.zip. It works 100% on all models. What has left me confused is what do you mean by "brick"? Are you able to access download mode after flashing twrp?
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If you are able to access download mode then flash official firmware via odin fist and then try your luck again. Hope this helps.
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KingRaheel said:
I would prefer TWRP method and then flash SuperSu.zip. It works 100% on all models.
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Hi. What version of TWRP do you use for Samsung Galaxy SMJ-500F?
Is it custom compilation or official relise from twrp.me/Devices ?
Sergiok said:
Hi. What version of TWRP do you use for Samsung Galaxy SMJ-500F?
Is it custom compilation or official relise from twrp.me/Devices ?
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Did you check the roms and kernel section here? We have 2 unofficial twrp ( who cares if its official or not. It does its work. Atleast it wont brick your device) , one for lollipop and one for marshmallow. Read the respective thread and download the correct twrp for ur device.
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Hey i rooted my j500f 6.0.1 but not from india....i installed latest twrp and flashed latest beta su from twrp it worked for me
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J5-F runing 6 Marshmallow NO Needed twrp!!!
yohan1 said:
Hello I am Yohan, newly registered member but an ardent follower of XDA forums and developers since the past one year. XDA has educated me in so many different things and I have enjoyed full freedom on my android devices ever since.
Now am using Samsung's SMJ500F 6.0.1 Marshmallow, and it seems almost impossible to find a working root method for this. Being a powerful device, all the bloatware is lagging down it's performance.
I have tried,
1. ODIN method (both TWRP and custom firmware), Result: Brick.
2. KingRoot (no strategy available).
3. Flashing SuperSU.zip using TWRP, failed. Result: Brick.
I can't even recall all the methods I've tried and the sites I've visited cause there is so many. I have bricked my device so many times, that the service centre guy is like "Here he comes again".
So my question is, has anyone successfully rooted Samsung Galaxy J500F 6.0.1 Marshmallow, and if so please do share it with the community, and if any developer can come up with a pre rooted SMJ500F 6.0.1 firmware, it'll be much appreciated. Hope to see your replies soon.
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_Very easy root than all models J5 .... J5 F run 6 M No needed twrp & flashable zip supersu!!...Has already zip cfautoroot by chainfire here: https://download.chainfire.eu/816/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-j5lte-j5ltexx-smj500f.zip ( download zip , extract zip, take .tar-md5 & flash with odin...before this, in developer options, put OEM unlock!! ) [ your J5-F M6 you can see & here : https://autoroot.chainfire.eu/ ]
KingRaheel said:
Did you check the roms and kernel section here? We have 2 unofficial twrp ( who cares if its official or not. It does its work. Atleast it wont brick your device) , one for lollipop and one for marshmallow. Read the respective thread and download the correct twrp for ur device.
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Yes I did. After your advice I used rom from topic [RECOVERY] [TWRP-3.0.2-0] Samsung Galaxy J5 [MM][Android 6.0.1] and finally installed it on my SM-J500H.
Thank you for point in right direction.
yohan1 said:
Hello I am Yohan, newly registered member but an ardent follower of XDA forums and developers since the past one year. XDA has educated me in so many different things and I have enjoyed full freedom on my android devices ever since.
Now am using Samsung's SMJ500F 6.0.1 Marshmallow, and it seems almost impossible to find a working root method for this. Being a powerful device, all the bloatware is lagging down it's performance.
I have tried,
1. ODIN method (both TWRP and custom firmware), Result: Brick.
2. KingRoot (no strategy available).
3. Flashing SuperSU.zip using TWRP, failed. Result: Brick.
I can't even recall all the methods I've tried and the sites I've visited cause there is so many. I have bricked my device so many times, that the service centre guy is like "Here he comes again".
So my question is, has anyone successfully rooted Samsung Galaxy J500F 6.0.1 Marshmallow, and if so please do share it with the community, and if any developer can come up with a pre rooted SMJ500F 6.0.1 firmware, it'll be much appreciated. Hope to see your replies soon.
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Hii friend
I am using samsung j500f 6.0.1 and i have succesfully rooted it.i faced some problems while rooting but resolved them.
At first flash firmware to your phone from
http://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model
Then download the latest odin and twrp recovery from the given link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/recovery-samsung-galaxy-j500f-t3416960
Then try to flash it with odin.
Then goto recovery mode after flashing and then try to install the given supersu zip file from twrp.
Download Supersu zip from the link below
http://download.chainfire.eu/696/supersu/
For Marshmallow Users if you are facing bootloop after flashing supersu.zip . Flash the given file
http://mega.nz/#!zNVBhKjb!FZFKq6vaI...OHtdYY_TKt-6Qs(Thanks @jka_dark28 for link)
Download the file install it then ur done wait for few minutes to reboot and then ur rooted .
For any suggetions see the post.
http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-j5/how-to/tutorial-upgrade-j5-2015-to-6-0-t3443904

S7 Edge roms, twrp, etc

Hi everyone I'm new to samsung devices but definitely not to android in general since I come from years of htc devices, root, flashing and so on.. still I am facing a bit of confusion here so instead of writing in every single thread I'll ask you here my questions:
1. As I read on TWRP official thread "it's incredibly hard to brick a sam device"; anyway I understand that this is never a risk free process but reading the comments it seems like people on nougat firmware are facing some kind of trouble so my question is: Is it safe to flash twrp on nougat firmware? And which one? 3.1.1-0 latest version should be fine right?
2. Let's suppose I'm now on twrp but instead of rooting the stock rom I flash directly a custom rom, I still need to flash "dm-verity and force encryption disabler"? After some reading I see people that flashes this after every new rom, someone suggests to use 2.2 version but the latest is 5.xx and the content of the zips is different between this two versions (5.xx contains a chromeos folder, the other one no??)
3. "Update modem and bl" , this is meant for those who want to flash a rom based on a higher firmware right? I'm on the latest (may security update) so there's no need to update modem and bl at least I think (?)
That's all, I'm sorry for this long post and my bad english!

Samsung Galaxy S8 - BOOTLOADER

hi.
can anybody please tell me how can i downgrade the bootloader of my galaxy s8? its been updated and since then i cannot install android 7.0, i only can use 8.0.0 which i don't really like it.
i want to downgrade the bootloader and install 7.0, or, if this is not possible i just want to reinstall the current bootloader, i think it has some problems. i tried to downgrade it once (not knowing if it possible or not) and i got a fail message in odin. i'm that type who doesn't like errors at all and i just want to reinstall the bootloader corectly. thx
p.s1: sorry for the category of this post, but i'm new on forum, just made the account so it wont let me post anywhere else...
p.s2: sorry for my english, it ain't that good.
teo.tda18 said:
hi.
can anybody please tell me how can i downgrade the bootloader of my galaxy s8? its been updated and since then i cannot install android 7.0, i only can use 8.0.0 which i don't really like it.
i want to downgrade the bootloader and install 7.0, or, if this is not possible i just want to reinstall the current bootloader, i think it has some problems. i tried to downgrade it once (not knowing if it possible or not) and i got a fail message in odin. i'm that type who doesn't like errors at all and i just want to reinstall the bootloader corectly. thx
p.s1: sorry for the category of this post, but i'm new on forum, just made the account so it wont let me post anywhere else...
p.s2: sorry for my english, it ain't that good.
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you want to go back to nougat from oreo , am i right ? Then try this video, if it doesnt help please reply to me and i am gonna find a solution to you ASAP
1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqpucWXyfqY
hi. thx, but i did this right (like in the video) many times, and it worked perfectly. now is not working cuz the bootloader was updated, and it won't let me downgrade the firmware anymore. i am still trying to find a way but i don't know if is possible.
i am searching a way to downgrade bootloader and then downgrade the firmware, but i dunno if is possible to downgrade bootloader once it was updated.
i am looking for the same solution. i managed to downgrade to Nougat but cant install custom rom
Can someone help me? I have G950FD which Firmware should I flash for my phone? I am using this model in the US
So no solution to downgrade bootloader version?
Bootloader downgrade for U6 is not available yet (For free)
rilley said:
So no solution to downgrade bootloader version?
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I have searched the whole web. but, I haven't find the solution to downgrade the bootloader for Binary 6. Well, my phone's OS is dead after upgrading to pie. So, apparently the only way for me and to others who are facing the similar issue is to wait until someone releases Binary 6 combination firmware for SM-G950FD.
Good news: It's easy to get your phone running if your bootloader is not upgraded to binary 6. Cuz, Binary 5 firmwares and combination files are available out there and they are 100% working unless your MB is dead.
Note: I have flashed following stock firmwares successfully through ODIN [INS-G950FXXU6DSK9-20191231094010 and INS-G950FXXS6DTA1-20200120123810] yet no luck. Can't boot the OS. Tried to root the phone, cant able to flash the custom recovery. Nothing just works.
Someone, please tag me if ever finds U6 combination file. That's the only hope to bring back my phone to life.

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