How rooting and stock firmware updates work on Moto X Play? - X Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, I'm coming from a "dead" Sammy Galaxy S3. I want to know of you, Moto users, how are these things on Moto X Play. I mean..
In my dead S3, I rooted using Odin and, when stock updates still existed, I was unable to update on phone and had to use Odin to flash the whole rom. After this, the root access disappear and I had to root it again using Odin.
How this things works on Motorola devices? I have already learned how to root the X Play but, after rooting, how do I update my stock firmware when any update become available? Do I have to update in the phone in the stock method (like a dream :fingers-crossed or Motorola devices got a flashing tool such as Odin?
Thanks since now

Totemic_tHiRp said:
So, I'm coming from a "dead" Sammy Galaxy S3. I want to know of you, Moto users, how are these things no Moto X Play. I mean..
In my dead S3, I rooted using Odin and, when stock updates still existed, I was unable to update on phone and had to use Odin to flash the whole rom. After this, the root access disappear and I had to root it again using Odin.
How this things works on Motorola devices? I have already learned how to root the X Play but, after rooting, how do I update my stock firmware when any update become available? Do I have to update in the phone in the stock method (like a dream :fingers-crossed or Motorola devices got a flashing tool such as Odin?
Thanks since now
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Just download the file, unzip, and then manually flash using fastboot. There is a Moto tool you could use as well I believe, but I prefer fastboot. Gives you a better sense overall of what's happening, and you know what you are doing.

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Just download the file, unzip, and then manually flash using fastboot. There is a Moto tool you could use as well I believe, but I prefer fastboot. Gives you a better sense overall of what's happening, and you know what you are doing.
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"just download the file" You mean, the firmware file, right? Is there a "samfirmware" from Motorola?
So, considering that this is the method used to flash a stock firmware over a rooted-stock firmware, what happens to the root access?

Root will go away unless you find a pre-rooted system image. Pretty much what would happen with a stock firmware file for any phone

My main question is: How is the process to back to a stock rom after rooting and installing TWRP or something like that?

More than likely you would download a stock image file from Motorola and install it using the "fastboot" command on your computer

Moto X Play INDIAN firmware
Can someone please upload the INDIAN firmware for moto x play dual sim?

Well, it's been some days that I created this thread. Now I know it's neccessary to remove root and reflash stock firmware on MXP to update for 6.0 update, for example (the same process as other Moto devices) . I never did this, but i'm not afraid because we got XDA and we have a lot of tutorials explaining how to do these things. The "scary" part is that a I see a lot of people asking for full firmwares and etc. I mean, I know the firmware from my region is different than the others (and this can easily mess firmware's modem or something like that - messing the imei also).
If we only had a "deposit" of firmwares like samfirware for sammy devices...

I've been looking in some forums about this questions and I found this: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/91999/p/1449,8620
it gave me to understand that, If I unlock the bootloader of my phone and root it, but not installing custom recovery (for example), I'll still be able to receive and install successfully OTA updates?
- Edit: I forgot that TWRP is need to install superSU.

Totemic_tHiRp said:
Well, it's been some days that I created this thread. Now I know it's neccessary to remove root and reflash stock firmware on MXP to update for 6.0 update, for example (the same process as other Moto devices) . I never did this, but i'm not afraid because we got XDA and we have a lot of tutorials explaining how to do these things. The "scary" part is that a I see a lot of people asking for full firmwares and etc. I mean, I know the firmware from my region is different than the others (and this can easily mess firmware's modem or something like that - messing the imei also).
If we only had a "deposit" of firmwares like samfirware for sammy devices...
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I've posted a fastboot guide and a link to a stock firmware thread In the second post of this thread. If you can't find the image you're looking for just ask in that firmware thread, it's been getting updated regularly.

Hi people!! Sorry for this question, but I am new at this android community, so I have the moto x play and I with like to know if it is possible to put kitkat on moto x play because lollipop is so bad for this device. Thanks for your time and have a great day.
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A few basic questions I am still confused about

Hi,
I am tasked with making a Friends Galaxy Apollo ( I5801) usable.
She bought it in Thailand and it is SIMlocked and currently running Eclair (2.1)
1) I first want to SIM Unlock it. I have seen multiple methods for this
This thread has a discussion :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339705
I will take a look at the youtube video first, but I am concerned that I will lose my IMEI. This seems to happen a lot. How do I back it up? I have seen instructions to backup the /efs folder and others that include a DD command. Which is the most reliable?
2) What is the easiest rooting method? Does SuperOneClick work? Do I even need to root to unlock only?
3) How do I then install a working 2.2? Is there such a thing as an Official 2.2 for the I5801? Otherwise, what is the best way to STABILITY?
4) Other Samsung phones offer packages ODIN or Heimdall ROMs that are pre-rooted in order to do a one operation (sometimes one-click) root/upgrade operation. Is there such a thing for the Apollo?
Thanks.
I tried running a search, and waaay too much confusing crap came back. I have owned several HTC, Mot and Samsung phones and am usually pretty good with this stuff...but I am just plain confused about this phone.
Any help would be appreciated
Caz
2) What is the easiest rooting method? Does SuperOneClick work?
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SuperOneClick is the works fine for me
For 3) www.sammobile.com/showthread.php?t=12 Scroll down to asuan firmware. Im using dxjpc as it is the latet 2.2 version for asian countries such as Singapore, Malaysia etc other than India. Flash usin odin but do not flash the bootloader as there would be a possibility of a hardbrick.
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Caz666 said:
Hi,
I am tasked with making a Friends Galaxy Apollo ( I5801) usable.
She bought it in Thailand and it is SIMlocked and currently running Eclair (2.1)
1) I first want to SIM Unlock it. I have seen multiple methods for this
This thread has a discussion :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339705
I will take a look at the youtube video first, but I am concerned that I will lose my IMEI. This seems to happen a lot. How do I back it up? I have seen instructions to backup the /efs folder and others that include a DD command. Which is the most reliable?
2) What is the easiest rooting method? Does SuperOneClick work? Do I even need to root to unlock only?
3) How do I then install a working 2.2? Is there such a thing as an Official 2.2 for the I5801? Otherwise, what is the best way to STABILITY?
4) Other Samsung phones offer packages ODIN or Heimdall ROMs that are pre-rooted in order to do a one operation (sometimes one-click) root/upgrade operation. Is there such a thing for the Apollo?
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1.I backup the /efs folder and also manually copy the files for additional safety.
2.if you are on 2.1, z4root works great. get the apk from here, install and root. thats it. you need to root at least to backup the /efs folder.
3.go to samfirmware.com and search i5800. install any of the latest ROMs.
4.Some "stock" ROMs themselves are pre rooted. Dunno how. Install them if you want. (eg. JPM)
Ok...my phone is now rooted and SIMunlocked. Pretty easy once you get over the fear of corrupting your IMEI data.
Now I have another question:
I REALLY want to make sure I don't brick this phone, but I think I want to upgrade it to
2.2...sooooo:
How can I be sure where the phone is from and therefore which firmware to flash?
I *know* the phone was purchased in Thailand, but I can't find the firmware currently on the phone referenced anywhere for the Apollo.
The firmware baseband is DXJG2 and the build number is DXJH2. A quick google search yields only hits for a "Galaxy Beam" ??
Am I asking for trouble flashing this puppy? My friend probably does not care that much about ECLAIR vs. FROYO...I just think that FROYO is a lot more modern.
I am just afraid that I have a freakish phone in my hands and that it won't react in a "nice" way.
Any pointers?
If you do not flash the bootloader it is not possible to hardbrick the phone. Only a softbrick is possible and a reflash will solve the problem. Android firmwares have been shifted to sammobile.com and samfirmware does not provide them anymore if im not wrong. In froyo you will have a bit more space for appilcations and since your friend in from Thailand(in asia) i suggest u flash an asian firmware. Dxjpc is working find for me
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u neednt be afraid of bricking the phone. and it is not necessary that u flash only asian frimwares. look around the forum to see which f/w works best for the majority of people and flash it. before flashing, make sure u remove boot and sbl files from the downloaded f/w. then u have 0% chance of hardbricking the phone.
cheers

X1575 US to 6.0.1 with root?

So I am wanting to root my phone (for multiple reasons - tether reenabled, other fun software, etc), but if I do that, I'd like to move to 6.0.1 if possible. Before I do it, I wanted to check to see if the Stock rom in this would work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...rom-stock-rooted-debloated-x1575-6-0-t3262242 I am a little concerned about using this ROM since it's modified from the 1572 ROM and what might happen with little bugs. Wish I could just do an easy root without having to do a whole bunch of crap to get it done (like my old Galaxy S4 that was easy to root with towelroot.)
Are there any other disadvantages to using this besides not having future OTA updates? (not that I am really expecting any more for Motorola these days.)
this is all documented in the original 6.0.1 thread. Flash all 6.0.1 files except modem, flash twrp, flash su 2.62-3, flash franken.
lafester said:
this is all documented in the original 6.0.1 thread. Flash all 6.0.1 files except modem, flash twrp, flash su 2.62-3, flash franken.
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Sorry, I didn't think it was that clear.
Thank you.

How to return to original firmware from CM13

Hello everybody,
I have a Moto x play running CM 13. I followed the process listed somewhere in this forum and successfully installed cm 13.
Bad news is my laptop got stolen at uni. I had installed Motorola drivers and all that stuff in there, so now I'm wondering if I can go through this process without that laptop. I hope I can.
I only have the cellphone and I would like to return it to its original firmware so I can sell it.
Is there a safe way to do this without "bricking" my phone? I'm not very well versed in these processes and managed to install cm13 only because the procedure was very clear. I hope you guys can help me!
The original carrier is Iusacell (Mexico), although the cellphone itself is unlocked and takes any Sim.
thanks in advance!
gabrsmn said:
Hello everybody,
I have a Moto x play running CM 13. I followed the process listed somewhere in this forum and successfully installed cm 13.
Bad news is my laptop got stolen at uni. I had installed Motorola drivers and all that stuff in there, so now I'm wondering if I can go through this process without that laptop. I hope I can.
I only have the cellphone and I would like to return it to its original firmware so I can sell it.
Is there a safe way to do this without "bricking" my phone? I'm not very well versed in these processes and managed to install cm13 only because the procedure was very clear. I hope you guys can help me!
The original carrier is Iusacell (Mexico), although the cellphone itself is unlocked and takes any Sim.
thanks in advance!
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to flash original firmware without PC you can use Chainfire's Flashfirehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433, however - it's still kinda experimental, needs some knowlege, and I'm not really sure if it supports our device. Reading through its thread may give you some clues. This will not revert your phone to out-of-the-box condition - that would take relocking your bootloader and PC is needed to do so (warranty will be still voided anyway). So maybe just try flashing some stock ROM in TWRP. The procedure will be the same as flashing CM.
minimale_ldz said:
to flash original firmware without PC you can use Chainfire's Flashfirehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433, however - it's still kinda experimental, needs some knowlege, and I'm not really sure if it supports our device. Reading through its thread may give you some clues. This will not revert your phone to out-of-the-box condition - that would take relocking your bootloader and PC is needed to do so (warranty will be still voided anyway). So maybe just try flashing some stock ROM in TWRP. The procedure will be the same as flashing CM.
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I feel more comfortable with the second option. I found this github with MXP ROMs for my country and carrier: https://github.com/motoxplay/stock
I honestly can't remember if I had it at the beginning with Android 5 or 6. What happens if I flash Android 6 and it originally was 5? I suppose I should make a backup "nandroid" first.
BTW, can the bootloader be locked again via a new PC?
gabrsmn said:
I feel more comfortable with the second option. I found this github with MXP ROMs for my country and carrier: https://github.com/motoxplay/stock
I honestly can't remember if I had it at the beginning with Android 5 or 6. What happens if I flash Android 6 and it originally was 5? I suppose I should make a backup "nandroid" first.
BTW, can the bootloader be locked again via a new PC?
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Flashing newer firmware won't break anything, it's a normal update. Worse thing would be if you tried to flash Lollipop over Marshmallow.
Making backup is always a good idea, do mind however, that flashing full stock firmware means overwriting your TWRP with stock recovery. Also, be aware the files you linked are actually firmware and not TWRP flashable zips.
And yes, you should be able to relock bootloader with original firmware.

Nexus/pixel 6.x.x style rom, for rooted bootunlocked VZW_BPB1_ODEX_DEODEX_V9 SM-G900V

Sry about the terrible shorthand. Finally broke down and factory reset my verizon gs5. Before setting up i decided to roll it back, root it, and get a debloated PB1 rom from here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370
So, if like me, and you have the nov/dec VZW OTA update on your phone PJ2 if i recall, this link got me rolled back and rooted. This method added busybox which i didn't really understand, safestrap which i actually kinda liked, and initially kingroot then the flash went to superSU.
I kinda liked the marshmallow os a touch better with the google now launcher and everything verizon as removed as possible vs 5.x.x. Basically the verizon OTA update to marshmallow essentially bricked my phone (not enough space after like 3 years of never re-formatting). I love my tablet that essentially runs just a bare bones no BS google android marshmallow software similar to what a pixel has or nexus had.
Doin more reading looking for such a rom i found this link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909
This successfully unlocked the bootloader. They omit that you should make sure you have the rom on he phone or sd card before starting. So before using odin make sure the rom is on the phone and matched the bootloader unlocker you wish to use. This method of flashing used TWRP recovery which i found to be...different than safestrap but functional all the same.
QUESTION 1
Is there a rom for the SM-G900V that is similar or identical to a non branded google device like how the pixel comes stock?
I haven't messed around with the phone since unlocking the bootloader and flashing it to the VZW_BPB1_ODEX_DEODEX_V9 using the TWRP Recovery. Basically if my best bet is a debloated stock but rooted vzw rom that is 6.x.x and then manually removing/deactivating the garbage from vzw apps i'll do it. But figured this was the place to ask if there was already a rom out there that works on the SM-G900V. Because i can easily put a rom that does the job instead of tinkering more than i have too.
QUESTION 2
Now that i used the SafeStrap_PB1_Bootloader_Unlock_AIO.zip and flashed VZW_BPB1_ODEX_DEODEX_V9.zip using the method from the second link. It APPEARS i can just load a 6.x.x rom and use TWRP Recovery to flash that. Am i mistaken? Will i need to do the unlock bootloader process over for the PD1 PF4 or whatever boatloader unlocker corresponds with the rom. OR...now that the bootloader is no longer verizon'ed can i basically swap roms to my hearts content as long as they do not also try to install a new bootlaoder??
I have no idea how to "tag" either poster from the links i mentioned but i'm certain many here as well as they could answer both questions easily.

Updating firmware confusion

Can someone please explain to me the importance of updating firmware?
What exactly is firmware that only Motorola can touch?
Why can't this be included while installing a ROM?
Does Motorola somehow have the capability to touch a certain partition that we cannot?
If you flash official Motorola stock ROM, how does it differ from flashing custom ROM?They cannot do the same thing?
Lastly, if the Samsung galaxy S3 is already running 7.1, then why must we update "firmware"?
I know for a certainty Samsung stopped pushing updates long ago for the S3. Please help I'm very confused by this! I've never known to do this in all my years of flashing yet you all keep mentioning it here! Only thing I've known to flash outside of ROM was the radio/modem/baseband whatever you wanna call it. And that was a flashable zip.
How can old phones get new custom ROMs if there are no official releases for current "firmware"? Thanks all! Links and input appreciated!
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Updating the firmware is necessary because the firmware brings a newer version of bootloader and for it to be compatible you need the latest version of bootloader (B1.03 right now)
Other phones need firmware or driver updates too. Sometimes they can be baked into the rom or an additional zip. It's up to the manufacturer how they deploy drivers.
Also the well known sim on/off switch is a driver inside the modem. And if the manufacturer don't release the source you cannot see the changes and need the stock rom/files to flash them prior the custom rom to get newer drivers.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/help/want-to-understand-explain-n-firmware-t3517850 for some more information.
Hey guys , my wifi isn't working and i cant upgrade to nougat ,while upgrading the file starts to install and then the phone reboots into recovery and stops there plz help ! Is this because of root ? But i have removed my root and twrp recovery ...... and after that i tried ota nougat zip file but it didnt flash
Nik11_98 said:
Hey guys , my wifi isn't working and i cant upgrade to nougat ,while upgrading the file starts to install and then the phone reboots into recovery and stops there plz help ! Is this because of root ? But i have removed my root and twrp recovery ...... and after that i tried ota nougat zip file but it didnt flash
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Don't discuss here, ask your question in the thread you're following the instructions to upgrade to nougat please. BTW Your given information is not specified enough to help you out.
Thanks everyone for your assistance! I appreciate the information.
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