I understand there is a trial and error, and one can always use the US996 boot for the rom and see if it loads the H918 rom.
But is there anyone who can confirm this works? I am trying to trudge through threads and it's far and few with a definitive answer.
Please, any information is appreciated.
As I am stuck deciding between H918 and the US996 model LG v20 to purchase.
The h918 and us996 are closely related. Even tho it seems the h918 is getting a lot of attention dev wise, they mostly focus on that device first then add other variants of the v20 to it. So I'd say if you have no patience you can go with the h918 if your willing to wait you can get the us996. But it's always good to have an unlocked device, hope you don't take this wrong.
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The h918 and us996 are closely related. Even tho it seems the h918 is getting a lot of attention dev wise, they mostly focus on that device first then add other variants of the v20 to it. So I'd say if you have no patience you can go with the h918 if your willing to wait you can get the us996. But it's always good to have an unlocked device, hope you don't take this wrong.
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I wanted to say thank you for you reply.
These are my sentiments actually.
I understand T-mobile version is the most beloved when it came to the v10 (as that was the most easily rooted one).
And it continued here, albeit LG posted their own bootload unlocked for the v20 on their website.
I see there is some dev support for the US996. But it's falling behind the h918.
And of course factory unlocking is the way to go. I'm just thinking of longevity of the phone. 2+ years down the road.. Which will have the most dev support?
I don't upgrade every year. I think it's ridiculous.
And I understand v20 is in its infancy.. But which wins long term? H918 or US996?
Because the h918 is getting all the love in the beginning.
Will there be a point where the tides turn and some more seasoned developers focus on the US996 and the h918 falls behind?
I understand it's silly to speculate so early. But these are my questions before I hop onto this v20 train. I want it so bad. Lol.
You're asking us to predict the future. Logic says most people have carrier models because not everybody wants to put up $600-$800 upfront for a phone. Either one you choose now guarantees root. Up to you. There are some slight differences like 918 having FM radio. Which features are more important?
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You're asking us to predict the future. Logic says most people have carrier models because not everybody wants to put up $600-$800 upfront for a phone. Either one you choose now guarantees root. Up to you. There are some slight differences like 918 having FM radio. Which features are more important?
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Genuinely. I never thought about that. Up front for the phone. That's very true. That's probably why t-mobile has taken off.
Maybe a pros and cons of each device?
I understand the US996 is more capable with networks.
And the h918 has fM radio.
Besides that. There really is no difference?
It all comes down to EOL after the phones. I think tmobile is a safe bet. We have resurrection remix rom already for that variant... Which I run on my galaxy s3.
So longevity is important to me.
I bought the note 4 910H. Boy was I wrong. Barely any roms. And the snap dragon version has resurrection remix among other 7.1.1 roms going for it.
Interesting topic. I'm not concerned about if the 996 development'catches up' to the 918. The question to me is still there be enough.
I too am a longer term user. I'm on the T-Mobile version of the Note 4 so I could have root. I'm generally not enthused about putting ROMs on, as I find there are virtually always issues of some kind.
That being said, it was getting slow enough that I finally started putting ROMs on it, and finally landed on Maximum Overdrive's ROM. It is a great ROM, and has allowed me to extend life of the phone...in fact I'm still on it. I see he is doing a ROM for the 918, and had indicated he will not be developing for the 996 because he does not have one.
I'm interested in the 996 mainly because it will work on both AT&T and Verizon. Data is so bad where I live that I'm considering changing carriers. If not for that I'd get either a Oneplus 3T, or a Mate 9. I'm getting tired of paying $800 for phones.
Would be good to hear that ROMs are interchangeable.
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Interesting topic. I'm not concerned about if the 996 development'catches up' to the 918. The question to me is still there be enough.
I too am a longer term user. I'm on the T-Mobile version of the Note 4 so I could have root. I'm generally not enthused about putting ROMs on, as I find there are virtually always issues of some kind.
That being said, it was getting slow enough that I finally started putting ROMs on it, and finally landed on Maximum Overdrive's ROM. It is a great ROM, and has allowed me to extend life of the phone...in fact I'm still on it. I see he is doing a ROM for the 918, and had indicated he will not be developing for the 996 because he does not have one.
I'm interested in the 996 mainly because it will work on both AT&T and Verizon. Data is so bad where I live that I'm considering changing carriers. If not for that I'd get either a Oneplus 3T, or a Mate 9. I'm getting tired of paying $800 for phones.
Would be good to hear that ROMs are interchangeable.
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This is excellent. I encourage all discussion. I'm sure I'm not the only one experiencing this dilemma.
In all honesty, I'd probably stick with my note 4 until it borked.. But there's no support for my model, really. Very little. And it's stuck on 6.0 marshmallow. Lame.
A lot of note 4 users seem to find their way over to the LG V20 side. It's almost like the bigger brother in a way.
If I knew what I know now. I'd have bought the tmobile model too, or close to it. For the support it has.
Also, I believe the maximum overdrive is already out for the v20?
Are you planning on moving to the v20?
I spent 800 for this note 4.. Not including the square trade warranty.
Its just nice to be on the phone that can last with developer support.
If lg keeps it up. I'm sure the v30 and v40 will be outstanding.
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This is excellent. I encourage all discussion. I'm sure I'm not the only one experiencing this dilemma.
In all honesty, I'd probably stick with my note 4 until it borked.. But there's no support for my model, really. Very little. And it's stuck on 6.0 marshmallow. Lame.
A lot of note 4 users seem to find their way over to the LG V20 side. It's almost like the bigger brother in a way.
If I knew what I know now. I'd have bought the tmobile model too, or close to it. For the support it has.
Also, I believe the maximum overdrive is already out for the v20?
Are you planning on moving to the v20?
I spent 800 for this note 4.. Not including the square trade warranty.
Its just nice to be on the phone that can last with developer support.
If lg keeps it up. I'm sure the v30 and v40 will be outstanding.
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As I noted in the post, Max OD is writing for the 918 only. So, even if I went to a V20, I couldn't use the OD ROM...unless it is determined that 918s will run on 996...but everybody says "Don't do that".
But in fact, I have finally decided to NOT go with the V20. I keep reading about folks having the lens on the camera break, and some are emphatic that they did not hit it or do anything to cause it. LG is NOT warranting them for that issue.
I've seen it often enough that whether it is caused by a bump or automatic explosion it's often enough to turn me off of the phone.
So, I guess I'll be hanging on to the Note 4. BTW...I originally had a AT&T model, but it got so horrible with lags and stuff, I sold it and got the T-Mobile version, and it has paid off.
I have given strong thougth to all the latest 'hot' phones: Oneplus 3T, Xaiomi, Asus Zenphone 3, ZTE Axon 7 and a couple others. All have their short comings, either poor picture, not available in intl that would cover both Verizon and AT&T, poor GPS, poor community support, or in the case of the V20...exploding camera lens.
So, my Note 4 will have to hang on a little longer. Interestingly, it is working good enough that I question why I want to get another phone...especially when they are $800.
Eventually I'll have to give up on some of my 'must have' items on the list...and probably have to pay too much money.
Lens break? Do you know how small a sample that is? And have you seen some of the pictures? It was obviously impact. Some people are in denial. Always some thread about something. What phone hasn't a bad battery life thread?
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Lens break? Do you know how small a sample that is? And have you seen some of the pictures? It was obviously impact. Some people are in denial. Always some thread about something. What phone hasn't a bad battery life thread?
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I'm sure it is a small percentage. And I'm sure a small percentage of folks that have that happen even know about this forum to come and complain.
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So...today I sent a mail to LG Dev seeing one other person here, and this is what they replied. I have posted the screenshot. WTF??? What do they mean by previous devices??? This device isn't even 3 months old Goddamn... very mad with LG. Regrets to leave HTC. And BTW where is written which one is newer & which one is older? How are we supposed to know that?? This is cheating....
Not cheating friend. They never promised to unlock your phone when you bought it. Believe me, I know it sucks...I'm right there with you waiting for an unlock myself. This doesn't surprise me one bit, honestly. I'm willing to bet that none of the LG phones sold by carriers will be unlocked by LG in the future either.
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So...today I sent a mail to LG Dev seeing one other person here, and this is what they replied. I have posted the screenshot. WTF??? What do they mean by previous devices??? This device isn't even 3 months old Goddamn... very mad with LG. Regrets to leave HTC. And BTW where is written which one is newer & which one is older? How are we supposed to know that?? This is cheating....
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Yea I've already told everyone this 3 weeks ago.
I need to decide if I want to buy the G4 in exactly a month from now.
If it won't be unlocked until then, I would sadly wait for the Note 5.
Well that'll pretty much cement my decision to go back to HTC. I don't hate this phone, honestly. It's pretty good and I've had no real issues with it. But (and I'm not interested in arguing WHY I want BL unlock and root. I just do. It's my phone) if there isn't mfg support for the unlock, screw 'em.
Came to the G4 because the M9 camera sucked. I suspect HTC will fix that in their next release at which point I'll go back to a phone that I can unlock and root within 15 minutes of opening the box. Nothing against the G4 itself. It's a solid phone. But I won't be locked down, and while I respect the devs working on this and the work they do, I don't have the patience to wait long term for each LG phone I get. Thought I'd maybe move away from HTC entirely, but...guess not. Oh well.
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Well that'll pretty much cement my decision to go back to HTC. I don't hate this phone, honestly. It's pretty good and I've had no real issues with it. But (and I'm not interested in arguing WHY I want BL unlock and root. I just do. It's my phone) if there isn't mfg support for the unlock, screw 'em.
Came to the G4 because the M9 camera sucked. I suspect HTC will fix that in their next release at which point I'll go back to a phone that I can unlock and root within 15 minutes of opening the box. Nothing against the G4 itself. It's a solid phone. But I won't be locked down, and while I respect the devs working on this and the work they do, I don't have the patience to wait long term for each LG phone I get. Thought I'd maybe move away from HTC entirely, but...guess not. Oh well.
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I ALMOST got the M9...just couldn't get past the camera deficiency it has. It's not even a good camera by 2014 standards...and doesn't come close to the best of 2015. I'm willing to even say it isn't as good as the M8's (and possibly even M8. Problem with it is that this year's camera lacks both OIS (which M7 had) and the second camera for depth or imaging chip (which M8 had), leaving it with just a huge MP count and no hardware help to assist the sensor. Sure, software can do some adjustment, but it'll never be like having the actual proper hardware for the job. So while they will likely update the camera...many times, it is still limited by it's unfortunate lack of hardware assistance and isn't likely to ever match any of the other 2015 devices. Best hope from HTC is the "Hero device" they're talking about for this fall.
Either way, I'm gonna stick with LG till next year's flagship round comes out. Sure it sucks to wait for unlock and root, but I'd rather have the top end camera hardware. I use my phone as my primary camera, so I'd rather have bootloader issues than camera deficiency.
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I ALMOST got the M9...just couldn't get past the camera deficiency it has. It's not even a good camera by 2014 standards...and doesn't come close to the best of 2015. I'm willing to even say it isn't as good as the M8's (and possibly even M8. Problem with it is that this year's camera lacks both OIS (which M7 had) and the second camera for depth or imaging chip (which M8 had), leaving it with just a huge MP count and no hardware help to assist the sensor. Sure, software can do some adjustment, but it'll never be like having the actual proper hardware for the job. So while they will likely update the camera...many times, it is still limited by it's unfortunate lack of hardware assistance and isn't likely to ever match any of the other 2015 devices. Best hope from HTC is the "Hero device" they're talking about for this fall.
Either way, I'm gonna stick with LG till next year's flagship round comes out. Sure it sucks to wait for unlock and root, but I'd rather have the top end camera hardware. I use my phone as my primary camera, so I'd rather have bootloader issues than camera deficiency.
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Same here, my phone is my primary camera, especially for vacations. And for the record my wife still has her m8 and my son the m7 and you're correct, BOTH of them take better pictures than the M9 does. We'll see about that hero device. I'm up for another JUMP upgrade in November (I'm grandfathered on the twice a year upgrade plan) so it's possible I could jump ship around then. Just have to see. Absolute worst case I pay this thing off and buy something outright. Dunno yet.
Back on topic though (sorry 'bout that ), my main issue is one of patience. It's probably my fatal flaw...as I said I KNOW it takes time to find and package (for money or free) a stable root exploit. Even longer to find a bootloader unlock exploit usually. This isn't the devs fault by any stretch. I'm just used to being able to quickly unlock and root my device...it's been a REAL long time since I've had to wait for root and finding that LG isn't planning to support an unlock is majorly disappointing to me.
I don't know why anyone would buy a carrier phone, and expect a factory unlock. That's what we have XDA for. Anyway, since we know the phone can be rooted, I'm hopeful that we will see a bootloader unlock, or work around as well. The phone hasn't been out that long, so you just have to have a little patience.
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I don't know why anyone would buy a carrier phone, and expect a factory unlock. That's what we have XDA for. Anyway, since we know the phone can be rooted, I'm hopeful that we will see a bootloader unlock, or work around as well. The phone hasn't been out that long, so you just have to have a little patience.
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'Expect' no. 'Hope' yes. Plus remember I'm coming from HTC where they're unlockable out of the box. Didn't occur to me that LG would flatly refuse to do it. My own fault, but what can you do?
Don't blame LG but your stupid USA cell providers. Which pay a lot of money to let you enjoy their spam.
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Don't blame LG but your stupid USA cell providers. Which pay a lot of money to let you enjoy their spam.
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Well typically I'd agree with you, however this one's LG's decision. TMO doesn't have any issues with unlocked bootloaders. If it was Verizon or AT&T I might agree with you.
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'Expect' no. 'Hope' yes. Plus remember I'm coming from HTC where they're unlockable out of the box. Didn't occur to me that LG would flatly refuse to do it. My own fault, but what can you do?
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Ugh, HTC. I agree with you about their cameras. I started out with the M8 last year, but that camera sucked hard. My wife already had the G3, and when I saw that the devs were confident about rooting/unlocking, I got rid of the M8, bought a G3, and rode it out until it came to fruition.
Is there anyone here who work with LG? I need them to 'deliver' a message..
Here's the thing.. I started with LG G3.. it was a great device and I really love it.. specially the camera.. very nice quality.. and I absolutely loove the root on this thing.. I can switch ROM that I like and add other customization with root ability of course (xposed, adblock, etc..)
And there's the new LG G4.. basicaly an upgrade to LG G3 wich I found very significant upgrade from previous device, LG G3.. without hesitation I upgrade it right away (seeing my lovely expericence with LG G3 before).. But here's the thing.. altough is a wonderful device, I'm very.. very.. very.. very dissapointed they not releasing the root for my device (H818P).. If I known this sooner, I will NOT buy LG G4 and stick to my LG G3..
Soo my 'message' to LG is very clear.. release the unlock, or this is my LAST experience with their phone.. PERIOD.. I heard they are now preparing the LG G4 Pro next year.. well, if they still not releasing the unlock for LG G4, they can forget about it.. well at least from me.. I'm soo done with LG
Think you all have to be patient. There will be a developer who will get it unlocked.
At least I guess. Has there ever been a phone not unlocked?
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Think you all have to be patient. There will be a developer who will get it unlocked.
At least I guess. Has there ever been a phone not unlocked?
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Yep. Motorola had a couple, and I believe the G2 (I could be wrong on that one though).
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Same here, my phone is my primary camera, especially for vacations. And for the record my wife still has her m8 and my son the m7 and you're correct, BOTH of them take better pictures than the M9 does. We'll see about that hero device. I'm up for another JUMP upgrade in November (I'm grandfathered on the twice a year upgrade plan) so it's possible I could jump ship around then. Just have to see. Absolute worst case I pay this thing off and buy something outright. Dunno yet.
Back on topic though (sorry 'bout that ), my main issue is one of patience. It's probably my fatal flaw...as I said I KNOW it takes time to find and package (for money or free) a stable root exploit. Even longer to find a bootloader unlock exploit usually. This isn't the devs fault by any stretch. I'm just used to being able to quickly unlock and root my device...it's been a REAL long time since I've had to wait for root and finding that LG isn't planning to support an unlock is majorly disappointing to me.
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I had both, so I was willing to stake my bet that both took better pics (though admittedly I've never had the M9).
I'm right there with ya on waiting sucks.....probably why I've never bought a device this early in it's "life". I usually get it after it's been out for a few months and has at least root.. I was in the unfortunate situation of my Note 4 becoming so unstable on 5.0 that it was hardly functional....would have to reboot 3-5 times a day average. Got the G4 because I couldn't take the idea of having an apple-looking device in my hand LOL
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Yep. Motorola had a couple, and I believe the G2 (I could be wrong on that one though).
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Hopefully it's not the case. Normally I was already on a custom rom.
No unlocked bootloader means less development on custom roms
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Soo my 'message' to LG is very clear.. release the unlock, or this is my LAST experience with their phone.. PERIOD.. I heard they are now preparing the LG G4 Pro next year.. well, if they still not releasing the unlock for LG G4, they can forget about it.. well at least from me.. I'm soo done with LG
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I'm not saying they don't care about you, but lets face it...they don't care about you. If you don't buy another LG, that's what....1 device per year? Maybe two. Consider this...we have what appears to a few hundred users on the G4 thread. We're probably not 1% of the total sales of the G4....and probably never will be. LG is going to look at "the masses" (aka people who don't xda, have no idea what root is, and wouldn't know what to do with unlock), which is like 99% of the users. They'd rather focus on the next update to the G4 or the next model they release, as if they can make it better than Apple or Samsung's next iteration of the smartphone, they can gain thousands of unit sales. Not to mention, this more than likely is a CARRIER driven situation than an LG driven one. Carriers don't really want us being able to remove their ads and other bloat....they worked hard to fatten our phones up!
I think it's a crazy situation that a carrier can decide that YOUR payed device is locked because of advertising bloatware.
Glad to live in a country with freedoms.
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I had both, so I was willing to stake my bet that both took better pics (though admittedly I've never had the M9).
I'm right there with ya on waiting sucks.....probably why I've never bought a device this early in it's "life". I usually get it after it's been out for a few months and has at least root.. I was in the unfortunate situation of my Note 4 becoming so unstable on 5.0 that it was hardly functional....would have to reboot 3-5 times a day average. Got the G4 because I couldn't take the idea of having an apple-looking device in my hand LOL
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Whereas I'm always 'get me that damned device the second it's available!!! NAO!!!!
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I think it's a crazy situation that a carrier can decide that YOUR payed device is locked because of advertising bloatware.
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It's not because of carrier bloatware. It's largely because of warranty and support. 98% of the people out there aren't going to unlock the phone even if it's able to unlock.Frankly the carriers don't really care about those of us who want to unlock it...we're not a big enough amount of their revenue to matter. Which is why the carriers (well Sprint and TMO anyhow) will usually let you unlock. Like I said, this one isn't because of the carriers (aside from AT&T and Verizon probably). This is about LG not wanting to provide the unlock.
Optimus G, G2, and G3 (current phone) owner here. Is this phone going to be a unlocking nightmare like previous LG phones? IE bump on the G3? Deciding between the G6, S8+, or waiting even longer. Rooting and unlocking is a must, and if this phone is going to be as finicky as previous LGs I think it might be time to jump ship after 5 years with LG.
Edit: Just wondering about peoples predictions, because I scanned the forums for the V30 and G5.
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Optimus G, G2, and G3 (current phone) owner here. Is this phone going to be a unlocking nightmare like previous LG phones? IE bump on the G3? Deciding between the G6, S8+, or waiting even longer. Rooting and unlocking is a must, and if this phone is going to be as finicky as previous LGs I think it might be time to jump ship after 5 years with LG.
Edit: Just wondering about peoples predictions, because I scanned the forums for the V30 and G5.
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Well, the carrier S8's have an even lower chance of root than the G6 if the S7 has shown anything. Carrier S7's can't even have custom roms, only modifications to the stock rom.
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Well, the carrier S8's have an even lower chance of root than the G6 if the S7 has shown anything. Carrier S7's can't even have custom roms, only modifications to the stock rom.
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Thanks for the info. Samsung always had lively development back in the day, so I guess I just assumed it would have it now. I'll keep an eye on the G6 and S8 forums to see how things go. It really sucks that the HTC U ultra doesn't have a headphone jack. I would have picked it up in a heartbeat. HTC really shot themselves in the foot. For now, I guess I might just stick with the G3. It has EVERYTHING new phones have except for a fingerprint scanner. Only thing underpowered is the GPU.
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Thanks for the info. Samsung always had lively development back in the day, so I guess I just assumed it would have it now. I'll keep an eye on the G6 and S8 forums to see how things go. It really sucks that the HTC U ultra doesn't have a headphone jack. I would have picked it up in a heartbeat. HTC really shot themselves in the foot. For now, I guess I might just stick with the G3. It has EVERYTHING new phones have except for a fingerprint scanner. Only thing underpowered is the GPU.
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I highly forsee the G6 getting root. At least the T-Mobile version should since it can be bootloader unlocked it seems.
No idea on the G6 yet, but the V20 has/had it as an option, and I haven't found a reason to give up my hotspot with it yet. I love Samsung phones, but not having the option of it, is a killer for me.
G3 I bought early and got it rooted early. G6 I'm hoping for an early breakthrough, wouldn't hold off buying (though I'm waiting for a good sale on the us997 or VZW variants), as rooting became progressively tougher as holes were plugged.
Recent Samsungs (including contemporaries of the g3, IIRC) have been really tightly locked down.
I really love/want root. After almost 3 years with a rooted G3 I'd hate not being able to use AdAway, XPrivacy, etc.
It's getting harder and harder to root. And sadly there is less and less demand as well as the market being spread thinner. While I would love root (miss Titanium Backup as well as Tasker) to be able to remove or freeze unnecessary apps, I'm actually really happy with the phone as is.
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For the love of God, are we ever going to get Noughat for the US XT1575 MXPE? It seems at this point it's a lost cause. So many devices have already received it, including Verizon branded phones. I'll never buy Lenovo / Motorola again. In my opinion we should have had Noughat 6 months ago, this is ridiculous. I guess I need to consider another option but being on Verizon limits my access to unlocked phones. What are good options other than Moto? Thanks.
Be patient...I know that is hard but we know it is on its 3rd build for the pure as one of the members got it by accident when the test builds started.
i've resigned myself to the likelihood we will NOT get Nougat, and am now waiting to see if the Nokia 8 (or 9) will be making it stateside.
i like the original Z Play, but the Z2P is a disappointment. Moto is dead.
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For the love of God, are we ever going to get Noughat for the US XT1575 MXPE? It seems at this point it's a lost cause. So many devices have already received it, including Verizon branded phones. I'll never buy Lenovo / Motorola again. In my opinion we should have had Noughat 6 months ago, this is ridiculous. I guess I need to consider another option but being on Verizon limits my access to unlocked phones. What are good options other than Moto? Thanks.
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I am not going to discuss the Nougat issue or the delay... there are rumors as to why it is delayed, but we don't know for sure. We do know the most recent test build was released to testers early this month, and seems stable, so soon hopefully.
As far as your other options for unlocked phones... there isn't much, Pixel, Moto, Apple, some Samsung S7/S7 Edge/S8 models, and the upcoming Essential Phone, that's about it. There is some argument that the situation will change soon, with Verizon sunsetting the CDMA network in 2019 and moving to a pure LTE ecosystem, but until then if you want an unlocked phone those are your choices right now.
I really don't know what the rush is about unless split screen viewing is crucial for you. The only other benefit is somewhat better battery while in doze mode. One issue noted by many users is that nougat is much harder on battery in poor signal areas due to radio management most likely. Since much of my work days are in poor signal areas, I will stick with with marshmallow until I hear the problem is resolved.
sigh...another useless thread to complain about no update.....forget about it..i.ts not gonna happen. This device is dead.
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Hello,
So I got the H870DS version without knowing about LG's policy on bootloader unlocking so I was really disappointed when I learned that I can't unlock my phone.
A friend of mine got the European version and he doesn't care much about unlocking his phone and I was wondering if I could use his phone's id and imei to generate an unlock.bin file and use that on my device, my initial thought was that it wouldn't work because somehow the key should be unique to the device but still I wanted a second opinion on this just to be sure.
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Hello,
So I got the H870DS version without knowing about LG's policy on bootloader unlocking so I was really disappointed when I learned that I can't unlock my phone.
A friend of mine got the European version and he doesn't care much about unlocking his phone and I was wondering if I could use his phone's id and imei to generate an unlock.bin file and use that on my device, my initial thought was that it wouldn't work because somehow the key should be unique to the device but still I wanted a second opinion on this just to be sure.
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I understand that you have gravitated towards Android because it has the customization support, and we are all very happy to welcome you. But it is these kinds of posts that put off the developers. Please read the G6 thread and search for your specific model. If it is locked, it is locked. Sell the phone and buy a Samsung, or a OnePlus; or wait patiently for an unofficial workaround. Have a nice day!
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I understand that you have gravitated towards Android because it has the customization support, and we are all very happy to welcome you. But it is these kinds of posts that put off the developers. Please read the G6 thread and search for your specific model. If it is locked, it is locked. Sell the phone and buy a Samsung, or a OnePlus; or wait patiently for an unofficial workaround. Have a nice day!
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I'm sorry for the post but I'm feeling desperate. I had the OnePlus One for 2 years and I loved it for the customization, different roms etc. I really like this device that's why I want to avoid selling and it doesn't look like LG has any intention of offering an unlocked bootloader for my device version
Well better do my homework next time I'm gonna buy a new phone.
qer0si said:
I'm sorry for the post but I'm feeling desperate. I had the OnePlus One for 2 years and I loved it for the customization, different roms etc. I really like this device that's why I want to avoid selling and it doesn't look like LG has any intention of offering an unlocked bootloader for my device version
Well better do my homework next time I'm gonna buy a new phone.
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Man, I feel you. Even I was about to order this literally yesterday. Then I saw that the support LG offers is not just pathetic, but non-existent. Are we supposed to think of their devices as flagships, when we aren't even getting full ownership of the device after paying the full amount upfront? This is the reason its rivals are doing much better, even after LG uses the "latest" tech.
Anyways, I ordered the OnePlus 5, and that will be my first Chinese smartphone. I am very skeptical about the OP5 as well, cause it is hardly a flagship (no expandable memory, no water resistance, no dust resistance, easily overpriced by $50), but what can you do?! The smartphone market is really pathetic since 2015. Consumers are so stupid and jump on the bandwagon like a bunch of sheep. I am coming from a Samsung Galaxy S4, and none of the smartphones have impressed me since 2013, except maybe the S8, which is way too overpriced by at least a $100!
vijaykanth said:
Man, I feel you. Even I was about to order this literally yesterday. Then I saw that the support LG offers is not just pathetic, but non-existent. Are we supposed to think of their devices as flagships, when we aren't even getting full ownership of the device after paying the full amount upfront? This is the reason its rivals are doing much better, even after LG uses the "latest" tech.
Anyways, I ordered the OnePlus 5, and that will be my first Chinese smartphone. I am very skeptical about the OP5 as well, cause it is hardly a flagship (no expandable memory, no water resistance, no dust resistance, easily overpriced by $50), but what can you do?! The smartphone market is really pathetic since 2015. Consumers are so stupid and jump on the bandwagon like a bunch of sheep. I am coming from a Samsung Galaxy S4, and none of the smartphones have impressed me since 2013, except maybe the S8, which is way too overpriced by at least a $100!
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From what I understand they don't offer bootloader support for the asian version because they're afraid that resellers may load bloatware or even spyware on the device before selling it and so you're sure you're getting a safe out of box software experience this way and I guess the majority of buyers won't care about unlocking it thus hurting more "advanced" users.
The OnePlus 5 seems decent although they have indeed overpriced it a bit for what it offers but I've held different OnePlus devices (One, X, 3) and their build quality is nice and the unlocked bootloader will prolong its lifespan by quite a bit through custom roms.
qer0si said:
From what I understand they don't offer bootloader support for the asian version because they're afraid that resellers may load bloatware or even spyware on the device before selling it and so you're sure you're getting a safe out of box software experience this way and I guess the majority of buyers won't care about unlocking it thus hurting more "advanced" users.
The OnePlus 5 seems decent although they have indeed overpriced it a bit for what it offers but I've held different OnePlus devices (One, X, 3) and their build quality is nice and the unlocked bootloader will prolong its lifespan by quite a bit through custom roms.
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Yep, LG and its code of ethics has hurt developers and hardcore users big time. In one way I guess you have to agree to it as well, because it is indeed great to see a firm that cares about security and user information safety (unlike the OnePlus which blatantly takes user info, but can be avoided after installing a custom ROM, which is why we buy Android smartphones )
I am hoping to not think of any other device for another 2-3 years at least. If the new OnePlus that's coming out later this year or early next year is good then I'll definitely exchange the OnePlus 5 for that. Smartphone buying has become hectic!
To the moderator of this thread: You can close this thread!
vijaykanth said:
I understand that you have gravitated towards Android because it has the customization support, and we are all very happy to welcome you. But it is these kinds of posts that put off the developers. Please read the G6 thread and search for your specific model. If it is locked, it is locked. Sell the phone and buy a Samsung, or a OnePlus; or wait patiently for an unofficial workaround. Have a nice day!
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His question was valid and met guidelines so please keep your opinions to yourself if they are not helpful to the initial post. You will be reported next time, the forums here do not support stifling of valid questions and support. Strike one.
qer0si said:
A friend of mine got the European version and he doesn't care much about unlocking his phone and I was wondering if I could use his phone's id and imei to generate an unlock.bin file and use that on my device, my initial thought was that it wouldn't work because somehow the key should be unique to the device but still I wanted a second opinion on this just to be sure.
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Why not just trade phones with your friend?
dwasifar said:
Why not just trade phones with your friend?
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He thinks my model being the Korean one is gonna show problems soon lol, oh and he has the white color which I really don't like because it makes the black line between the body of the phone and the screen noticeable.
qer0si said:
I'm sorry for the post but I'm feeling desperate. I had the OnePlus One for 2 years and I loved it for the customization, different roms etc. I really like this device that's why I want to avoid selling and it doesn't look like LG has any intention of offering an unlocked bootloader for my device version
Well better do my homework next time I'm gonna buy a new phone.
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Sell it and buy the LG G6 US997 from B&H they are all bootloader unlockable its the US version NOT US Cellular and they are cheap as well hope this helps ya link enclosed below
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/1322815/lg_g6_us997_32gb_smartphone.html
A colleague of mine is selling his nearly mint att LG V20 (H910) device for just $150. I would like to get this device as I have lost data on my Galaxy S4 Play Edition and can not restore it. (I really like S4 and works without any problem, but I can not restore the data. Didn't get much ideas in Galaxy S4 board so finally giving up on it.)
I like to keep my devices for at least 3 to 4 years. To be able to keep this long, I should be able to root it without much complication. There should be enough community that ROMs will keep appearing after LG decides to stop updating (Not sure Oreo is coming to this device). No unexpected problems should show up due to hardware failure (bootloops on G4, G5, V10) that would require manufacturer to fix. I am not interested in paying a dime.
I can see some rooting info is available. ROMs are also available, but I am not too sure with regards to hardware.
Will appreciate inputs from the users.
Thanks in advance.
fuzzychicken said:
A colleague of mine is selling his nearly mint att LG V20 (H910) device for just $150. I would like to get this device as I have lost data on my Galaxy S4 Play Edition and can not restore it. (I really like S4 and works without any problem, but I can not restore the data. Didn't get much ideas in Galaxy S4 board so finally giving up on it.)
I like to keep my devices for at least 3 to 4 years. To be able to keep this long, I should be able to root it without much complication. There should be enough community that ROMs will keep appearing after LG decides to stop updating (Not sure Oreo is coming to this device). No unexpected problems should show up due to hardware failure (bootloops on G4, G5, V10) that would require manufacturer to fix. I am not interested in paying a dime.
I can see some rooting info is available. ROMs are also available, but I am not too sure with regards to hardware.
Will appreciate inputs from the users.
Thanks in advance.
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Root is more complicated compared to samsungs, the v20 is basically end of life and just now getting oreo, which isn't anything to get excited about as LG software support sucks. The v20 has screen retention issues, poor cellular signal strength just to name a few common issues. Development is pretty scarce as the majority of original devs have long since moved onto other devices. The v20 may get pie but expect it to be a long time considering LG's track record. Your money may be better spent elsewhere
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cnjax said:
Root is more complicated compared to samsungs, the v20 is basically end of life and just now getting oreo, which isn't anything to get excited about as LG software support sucks. The v20 has screen retention issues, poor cellular signal strength just to name a few common issues. Development is pretty scarce as the majority of original devs have long since moved onto other devices. The v20 may get pie but expect it to be a long time considering LG's track record. Your money may be better spent elsewhere
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Thank you for the comment.
I do not expect any software support from LG. From what I am reading Oreo is coming to Korea only so att device may never see it. As long as Lineage folks keep releasing nightly ROMs, I am content with that.
Can you pls elaborate on the screen retention issues? Do they get burn-in quickly?
fuzzychicken said:
Thank you for the comment.
I do not expect any software support from LG. From what I am reading Oreo is coming to Korea only so att device may never see it. As long as Lineage folks keep releasing nightly ROMs, I am content with that.
Can you pls elaborate on the screen retention issues? Do they get burn-in quickly?
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All variants will get oreo, I don't use lineage due to its numerous short-comings and issues. The screen retains images and there is ghosting, most of it can be alleviated by using a custom kernel with kcal support.
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fuzzychicken said:
Thank you for the comment.
I do not expect any software support from LG. From what I am reading Oreo is coming to Korea only so att device may never see it. As long as Lineage folks keep releasing nightly ROMs, I am content with that.
Can you pls elaborate on the screen retention issues? Do they get burn-in quickly?
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In my opinion, the Moto G5s Plus(that my father has) is way better in terms of speed and battery life. So you should probably spend your money on Moto G6 or something that falls within your budget if you care most about speed, stock android and battery life. It may be more expensive than 150$
Otherwise, additional features like the second screen, IR blaster are pretty good on LG v20.
Also screen retention/ghosting is annoying and using KCAL with certain settings, fixes it but colors look a bit weird.