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Apple did a good job selling it's next product, as usual. it announced a product and with it a firm release date in the very near future.
In contrast, Google screwed up the FroYo release as much as they possibly can. Google I/O announced FroYo on May 20th, with no firm date for release. That was just a few days short of three weeks ago.
Okay, so I am not worried about it to the point that I am ready to go all iPhone on your butts, I am just pointing out that Google has a lot to learn about rolling out a product.
They absolutely do.
Google is acting like a bunch of freaking amateurs.
I'm not the least bit interested in the iPhone, but I am jealous that they guys running Apple seem more professional and capable than do the folks running Google/Android.
It's embarrassing.
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Apple did a good job selling it's next product, as usual. it announced a product and with it a firm release date in the very near future.
In contrast, Google screwed up the FroYo release as much as they possibly can. Google I/O announced FroYo on May 20th, with no firm date for release. That was just a few days short of three weeks ago.
Okay, so I am not worried about it to the point that I am ready to go all iPhone on your butts, I am just pointing out that Google has a lot to learn about rolling out a product.
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Honestly, I feel the same way. Google I/O was great, but it was all just fluff. We didn't get anything solid. Nothing. Google can take some lessons here about giving people something they can hold on too. "Few Weeks" is not enough. I think one of the main reasons that people aren't out in front of Google with pitch forks and torches is that they "leaked" a 2.2 early release so we have a taste of it and something to play with.
All in all, I agree with you 100%, Google has a lot to learn.
On the flip side -
Apple introduced iAds today like they were the greatest thing since sliced bread. Well, hold the phone (lousy pun intended - deal), those little banners consume data. No biggie data is unlimit- whoa wait. Not it's not. Not anymore on Apple's carrier of choice in the USA.
I don't care how little data those little banners use - to promote a system that not only allows their use but encourages it at the expense of a user locked into a tiered data plan is reprehensible. Does anyone else see an ethical problem with this?
Then there is the practical issue - a user is at the hairy edge of his allotment without buying more data - well except for those pesky little banners that put him over the top. Nice job, Steve Jobs, you butthole.
Likewise, I think any Android PAID app should have all ad banners removed. I know this is a common practice, but it should be a rule. No app with banners should be available at all without a paid counterpart without banners, IMO.
Well sure we don't have a solid release date yet... but we also get more updates then 1 per year. Think on the bright side. At least Froyo 2.2 is already out, if not officially. I don't understand your complaining. Android can already do what the iPhone is just not catching up to.
If our Androids ran on Apple time... we wouldn't see 2.2 until next January. Again, be happy you don't have to wait that long. Be lucky we get what we get. Plus 2.1 runs great anyway.
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we wouldn't see 2.2 until next January. .
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at the rate Google is going.....
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Well sure we don't have a solid release date yet... but we also get more updates then 1 per year. Think on the bright side. At least Froyo 2.2 is already out, if not officially. I don't understand your complaining. Android can already do what the iPhone is just not catching up to.
If our Androids ran on Apple time... we wouldn't see 2.2 until next January. Again, be happy you don't have to wait that long. Be lucky we get what we get. Plus 2.1 runs great anyway.
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No, not complaining, stating some facts.
Apple = Solid release dates announced
Google = Vague mentions to releases that are coming "soon".
What should Google do? Follow the Apply model? Announce it 4 months ago, which is what Apple did, then wait until you release a new phone (which actually have hard dates) to launch the new OS... so if Google did this, we would be waiting until the Nexus2 to get FroYo. Sounds great guys! Not...
Take a nap or something.
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What should Google do? Follow the Apply model? Announce it 4 months ago, which is what Apple did, then wait until you release a new phone (which actually have hard dates) to launch the new OS... so if Google did this, we would be waiting until the Nexus2 to get FroYo. Sounds great guys! Not...
Take a nap or something.
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They should have STFU until they had a hard release date.
Period.
And they sure as hell shouldn't have released it to the freaking press who didn't pay a dime for their Nexus.
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They should have STFU until they had a hard release date.
Period.
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Stop whining please.
It makes the rest of us Nexus One owners look bad.
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No, not complaining, stating some facts.
Apple = Solid release dates announced
Google = Vague mentions to releases that are coming "soon".
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Simple facts...
Apple= Announcing new phone!
Google= Software update
Two different things. Google gave a firm date for the Nexus One.
And when has Apple ever given a firm date for a software update/bug fix? Oh, wait, they haven't... they have only ever given firm dates for new phone releases, and then said the exact same stuff Google has, that the new OS will be available shortly for other models.
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Stop whining please.
It makes the rest of us Nexus One owners look bad.
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Dude you're responsible for yourself. I'm not going to shut up because you are insecure.
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Well sure we don't have a solid release date yet... but we also get more updates then 1 per year. Think on the bright side. At least Froyo 2.2 is already out, if not officially. I don't understand your complaining. Android can already do what the iPhone is just not catching up to.
If our Androids ran on Apple time... we wouldn't see 2.2 until next January. Again, be happy you don't have to wait that long. Be lucky we get what we get. Plus 2.1 runs great anyway.
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I am just saying that Apple has their act together when it comes to product launches. Google does not. People had a much better understanding of what's coming and when with Apple's Keynote than they did at Google's. It left a lot less speculation and release anxiousness on the table. That makes for happier customers.
No doubt I'd rather be using the version of FroYo we are already looking at than iOS4. That wasn't my point.
Since Apple is now in the ad business (some vague 60% number thrown out there), why not get into the hardware business google?
HTC is a good manufacturer but lacks the innovation needed. Sony designs well but moves at a snails pace and makes horrible decisions.
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Very true. And on the flip side of that - Your responsible for yourself as well. So act like an adult instead of getting everyone tense on the forum with childish behavior.
I wouldn't be upset really. Tom Petty did say it best when he said "waiting is the hardest part". However if Froyo isn't finished, then we need to sit back and chill for a little while longer. I would be really mad if we get it (example) July 4th weekend and absolutely nothing has been added or changed.
Looks like we are all in wait and see mode..
Google needs to get it's act together on android. Microsoft is going to come after them, not apple not RIM. Microsoft and Google are aiming for OEMs and OEMs have already complained about google's way of releasing android updates.
I was shocked when Andy Rubin said that they don't have road-maps for version release. Google needs to look at Mozilla for their planning.
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Very true. And on the flip side of that - Your responsible for yourself as well. So act like an adult instead of getting everyone tense on the forum with childish behavior.
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Rather than try and start a flame war, just post your opinion like I did and move one. If you cannot handle an opposing opinion, the internet may not be for you. If you're getting tense reading my posts, take a valium, but I will post any way I want(within forum rules of course).
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piss off, pantload.
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It's ok attn1... I know if I was always screaming "the sky is falling the sky is falling" about the release of Froyo I'd be a little tense too
The title pretty much says it all. After a few failed interactions with SamsungJohn; by failed I mean asking legitimate questions and receiving no real answers. Being left with the feeling of corporate glad-handing. I am wondering if anyone has received useful information from him.
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The title pretty much says it all. After a few failed interactions with SamsungJohn; by failed I mean asking legitimate questions and receiving no real answers. Being left with the feeling of corporate glad-handing. I am wondering if anyone has received useful information from him.
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He did his job which is pr related. He came here to calm the storm that was brewing with xda members attacking the social networks for lack of support which boils down to he did nothing for us. A few brief conversations we had I don't think he knew much about development
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It's too late for Samsung... they will lose a huge amount of customers in the upcoming months...
Did you see their Q1 results? It's already happening...
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Did you see their Q1 results? It's already happening...
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That's economy not revenge. Us here at xda that care about getting timely updates are a really small % last year they sold the most android phones. They have the same goal this year. I think why they have slipped so far this year is they haven't released any cool phones yet ex... nexus s 4g not only that they still have 3 more quarters.
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That's economy not revenge. Us here at xda that care about getting timely updates are a really small % last year they sold the most android phones. They have the same goal this year. I think why they have slipped so far this year is they haven't released any cool phones yet ex... nexus s 4g not only that they still have 3 more quarters.
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I agree with badboy on this one, combination of economy and lack of phone releases caused the single quarter drop.
As for my original question, i am trying to be an optimist and am hoping to find at least a few people that SamsungJohn helped.
Probably nobody. The questions they were forcing people to ask were more like, "What is the CEO's favorite pony color?" instead of the meat people were wanting here.
Why is everyone fed up with Samsung? They've given us FroYo and amazing hardware (we were top for quite awhile), only surpassed by dual core processors...
I'm glad with the support I've received and with the devs here no one should be complaining.
All the cool kids are doing it. Besides, if no one slams Samsung every 5 minutes we'd all look pretty stupid standing around holding pitchforks and burning brooms.
Personally I've never had any issue with Samsungs support. Releasing 2.2 within 6 months of release seemed pretty fast to me... and exactly what they said they would do (<6 months into a 24 month expected lifespan IS 'soon'). I have never had any unusual or abnormal deficiencies from the phone in any way.
Samsungs problems aren't with phones right now its the other stuff like LCD tvs. Updates have nothing to do with it even Apple seems to be falling a little(with there giant line of BS) so its probably more economy based
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All the cool kids are doing it. Besides, if no one slams Samsung every 5 minutes we'd all look pretty stupid standing around holding pitchforks and burning brooms.
Personally I've never had any issue with Samsungs support. Releasing 2.2 within 6 months of release seemed pretty fast to me... and exactly what they said they would do (<6 months into a 24 month expected lifespan IS 'soon'). I have never had any unusual or abnormal deficiencies from the phone in any way.
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Samsung is only required to support their product for 6 months minimum, which means they didn't even have to release Froyo in the first place. And from my understanding, Samsung isn't the only manufacturer that has problems releasing updates.
Wait. How'd we get so far off topic? I thought we were talking about SamsungJohn, not Samsung.
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All the cool kids are doing it. Besides, if no one slams Samsung every 5 minutes we'd all look pretty stupid standing around holding pitchforks and burning brooms.
Personally I've never had any issue with Samsungs support. Releasing 2.2 within 6 months of release seemed pretty fast to me... and exactly what they said they would do (<6 months into a 24 month expected lifespan IS 'soon'). I have never had any unusual or abnormal deficiencies from the phone in any way.
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I'd appreciated not being lumped in as a "basher". I have a legitimate complaint about not receiving feedback and resolution to my issues.
I purchased my phone back in September, in the almost 7 months I have owned this phone some of the issues have been fixed others have been ignored.
I have sent 3 emails since September to Samsung Customer Service and Technical support, none of them were answered. I called Samsung and was promised a call back that never came. SamsungJohn comes around and asks us for a bugs/issues list. He asked me to upload mine to google docs then never addressed any of the issues. He told me he worked directly with R&D yet could provide no information on upcoming bug fixes, could not even answer questions like "is the R&D team aware of or working on xxxx bug?"
I'm not a "basher", I am asking if anyone has received any help from SamsungJohn.
EDIT: twolostminds: both of my posts were directed at overstews comment about everyone being sore, neither were directed at your post, just to be clear.
Well like I said, I personally don't feel they did anything wrong regarding the updates, it is about typical for any product support. I think somebodies HTC got a super fast update and it got everyones panties in a wad.
If anything were to dissuade me from buying another Samsung, it would be the crappy attitude of the owner community online.... but I would really have to actually read the whine threads a bit more carefully before that ever happened.
Let me chime in here for a minute. I'm disappointed in this as well. What upset me was the fact that SamsungJohn was wanting to build an ongoing "partnership" with the people at XDA. To the best of my knowledge he is no longer around and there is no explanation as to whats going on.
I feel your frustration as I was made promises that never happened. I had received a PM from SamsungJohn asking for my contact information. I never expected to actually hear from him but I did. I was basically told that Samsung wants to help foster the development we are doing here and would like to help in any way they could. I'm sure I'm not the only one he contacted as they were reaching out to the developers in general. I was asked not to discuss the contents of the conversation so I won't. I was told that I could express Samsungs desire to make things right. I was told that if I needed anything to let him know and he would do what he could to get us what we needed in order to keep the development moving forward. I was aloud to say that much. He was supposed to contact me again to possibly set something Autism related up. I never heard back from him. I have made a few attempts to contact him and have not received anything in return.
When I spoke with him he seemed like a really nice guy and I think he really did want to help. I don't think any of this is his fault. I think the powers that be just decided to go in a different direction. I don't know anything other than what I heard directly from him. I never got the sense that he was stringing us along and I know for a fact that he was reading my blog.
My opinion is that things for whatever reason just didn't work out. I don't blame him for that it was probably completely out of his control. It would be nice to hear from someone in the "know" as to the status of the situation. I think it could have been handled better and with more transparency but it is was it is. I don't think anyone is to blame least of all SamsungJohn himself. I still hope to hear from him as I would love to partner with Samsung on some Autism related things.
I do believe that he was being straight up with us and at the end of the day things were out of his control and he has a job to do.
Hope this helps.
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That's economy not revenge. Us here at xda that care about getting timely updates are a really small % last year they sold the most android phones. They have the same goal this year. I think why they have slipped so far this year is they haven't released any cool phones yet ex... nexus s 4g not only that they still have 3 more quarters.
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I disagree. The economy, overall, is up from this time last year. But Samsung's profits are down 4% QOQ and 42% YOY. Apple is up, Motorola up, HTC up... Tech everywhere is up.
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Did you see their Q1 results? It's already happening...
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That's economy not revenge. Us here at xda that care about getting timely updates are a really small % last year they sold the most android phones. They have the same goal this year. I think why they have slipped so far this year is they haven't released any cool phones yet ex... nexus s 4g not only that they still have 3 more quarters.
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im with zerloq on this one. did anyone see htc's q1 profit? they tripled it from the previous. you cant blame the economy for sammy but htc have record profits.
http://htcpedia.com/news/htc-triples-q1-profits.html
Hey John, if you read this just tell Samsung not to lock down their software and I'm sure you'll have a lot of repeat customers. You can also throw in that their devs aren't worth a damn and may want to consider outsourcing some of their work to a lot of the guys on these boards.
Personally I am not only disappointed and frustrated with both SamsungJohn and Samsung, but I feel used. He asked us as a community to help by creating list of issues and concerns. Many of us created very well thought out, detailed lists that included tremendous amounts of information including methods of recreating the issues. In exchange for our help they made vague promises of helping our community. SamsungJohn & Samsung took our hard work and information and promptly ignored us. I feel used.
well... at least you know now. I didnt really know what to think of it, but was hopeful. Oh well... corporations arent human... never will be.
Alright so I apologize in advance if this is somewhere on the forum already, and seeing as Google is being uncooperative and giving me a great number of suspected US release dates I was just wondering if anyone had any inside info on when this godly phone will launch in Canada/with which carriers/what cost will be?
I'm finally off contract and wanna dump my POS BBerry Storm for it!
it doesn't matter, because once it's released in the US you can buy it unlocked online...
That would be great if I wasn't on a student's budget (engineering in ontario ain't cheap)
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That would be great if I wasn't on a student's budget (engineering in ontario ain't cheap)
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lol...i know...in Ontario nothing is cheep anymore
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lol...i know...in Ontario nothing is cheep anymore
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WOOO $8500 + books a year in tuition!
I'm so selling my Galaxy S for the S2. The S2 just looks like a very good upgrade over the first Galaxy S
I would LOVE to have the date, because I've been holding off upgrading my desire for a few months and would love for it to come to Telus (hopefully first!). But if not, I would have no problem jumping ship to Bell to get this beautiful marvel of technology!!
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WOOO $8500 + books a year in tuition!
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How about 38 grand a year in tuition... I have to get all my money from "recycling" my gadgets. Like buy a couple phones on contract, sell em off contract for a little extra profit and use the net gain to buy say a desktop or something. Or sell old desktop (old as in 6 months) and use that money to buy phone+laptop. Because of this cycle I don't have one computer or phone for more than 6 months at a time.
Hoping for Windmobile / MobilityCity to bring them into Canada
then we'll have the proper 1700+2100 version
the AT&T 850/1900 version is available for pre order already in many sites
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Alright so I apologize in advance if this is somewhere on the forum already, and seeing as Google is being uncooperative and giving me a great number of suspected US release dates I was just wondering if anyone had any inside info on when this godly phone will launch in Canada/with which carriers/what cost will be?
I'm finally off contract and wanna dump my POS BBerry Storm for it!
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Yea I wouldn't complain about under 10k/yr in tuition... that's a bargain even at state schools in the US.
Anyway, I'm just waiting for T-mobile's version so I can use it on WIND... I really don't want to have to switch to Bell/Telus/Rogers/Fido to be able to use the SGS2.
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WOOO $8500 + books a year in tuition!
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Yea I wouldn't complain about under 10k/yr in tuition... that's a bargain even at state schools in the US.
Anyway, I'm just waiting for T-mobile's version so I can use it on WIND... I really don't want to have to switch to Bell/Telus/Rogers/Fido to be able to use the SGS2.
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Oh i can complain when it's working 4 jobs while trying to juggle an engineering degree to pay tuition and rent
Unless somebody has some inside info, I'd just suggest watching Samsung Mobile Canada's Twitter feed.
Right now they are totally focused on the release of the Nexus S this week, so I wouldn't expect them to give a release date for the S II until that noise settles down.
Gah, can't wait. My old HTC Touch (running Android) is dying a little more each day. Almost useless now.
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Unless somebody has some inside info, I'd just suggest watching Samsung Mobile Canada's Twitter feed.
Right now they are totally focused on the release of the Nexus S this week, so I wouldn't expect them to give a release date for the S II until that noise settles down.
Gah, can't wait. My old HTC Touch (running Android) is dying a little more each day. Almost useless now.
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A Touch running Android? That's insane! My Desire barely handled Froyo due to low memory!!!
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A Touch running Android? That's insane! My Desire barely handled Froyo due to low memory!!!
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Actually, the latest builds people have cooked (and not with 1.5, 2.2.1!) actually run pretty damn smooth. It's come a long way. I have the Bell version of the touch which is at 400Mhz. I doubt the 200Mhz touch would be enjoyable, though.
In fact, I keep checking this forum for the latest SII news from the taptalk app. Some of the more demanding applications don't work very smooth (ex: the official twitter app with it's moving clouds background), and there always seem to be random bugs with different builds (no audio input for voice search or guitar tuners for example) but people are still, surprisingly, churning out more and more refined editions.
If it wasn't for the fact that the top button on my phone was broken (yeah, critical, I have to keep the phone's screen on and therefore the phone plugged in all the time, hence I can't for for the S II to come out!) it would be a pretty damn usable in most respects.
Can't wait for it either!!! But at the same time, in an effort to improve my Desire, I have endless hours of fun trying out new roms, exotic roms!! Hopefully this thing will come close to the kind of support that thing has...
Resisting the urge to "insert stupid random comment here"... I want to say everything in the HTC EVO Vs. iPhone 4 video only make the iPhone zombie want an SGS II (making him smart and saving someone's life!)
GUYS one of the reporters for mobile syrup spoke to the canadian samsung VP and confirmed a late Q2-early Q3 launch!!!
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/04/14/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-coming-to-canada-by-early-q3/
I figure you will have to wait for the NS buzz to cool down and then they will pop this out of no where for the rest of the bunch that didnt get the NS.
You will see this in end June or July to fight the iPhone 5 release, IF Apple is releasing it in July, otherwise it will be Sept.
Either way I don't care... I want the SGS II, NS to me is old tech....
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GUYS one of the reporters for mobile syrup spoke to the canadian samsung VP and confirmed a late Q2-early Q3 launch!!!
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That news makes me beyond happy... you have no idea... and with a possible new job in the works plenty of time to save!
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GUYS one of the reporters for mobile syrup spoke to the canadian samsung VP and confirmed a late Q2-early Q3 launch!!!
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/04/14/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-coming-to-canada-by-early-q3/
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Eeeeech. End of June, early July? Sigh.
At least by then my full Bell contract will be over, so I can choose a different carrier if need be. Can't wait to get rid of this HTC Touch/Vogue.
Hi guys, I started this thread with the intent that the new users of our forum could first stop in and introduce their selves. They are the new blood around here and may very well have something useful to share with us! Use this thread as you see fit as long as you keep it clean and follow all the XDA rules
Enjoy!!!
Here I'll start us off:
Hi my name is Josh. I'm 27, married to the best woman in the world. We have a beautiful 5yo daughter who is now in school. I have one dog, one wolf mix, a cat, a hamster and a tank full of minnows(my daughter said we are not allowed to use them as bait, lol) I am U.S. Army Medically Retired. I was a 91B(mechanic)(originally a 63W for you old heads) in the Army until I hurt my back. I've been to Iraq twice, Egypt once, and did maint support operations on the Port of Beaumont, Texas and the Port of Olympia in Washington. I was there while the riots where going on. I did enjoy serving my country and am very proud to have been given this special opportunity. Now that I am out of the mil I can focus more on my family, living life and of course my geeky addiction.
Its been a fun road to now. I started out with my first Android phone the HTC Droid Eris. I enjoyed the works of many great devs and learned so much while using there Rom's. workshed, Tazzpatriot, condemned soul, conap, gnarlic man the list goes on... These guys are really who got me interested in developing and everything else. With there help a did a little theming for the Eris. It was mostly just minor stuff for Cm. As time past I eventually moved on to the HTC Droid Incredible. I've been here since March. I started out again doing some theming then I moved up to my DTR's (BUNKER BUSTER DTR and yes since I'm retired U.S Army thats why it is named something militaryish). Its a fun little project and its also my way of sticking it to the man, lol. Now most of my focus goes to my Roms. I have Pure Speed which is my first and my baby. I'm so proud of that rom. I also have Hybrid Speed, Sub Sonic and my latest my first ever 3.0 rom Pure Shooter.
All in all this Inc community has taught me so much and showed me a whole new world I never knew existed. We have good support, good people and great devs here. My time spent here is now just keeping my work updated and trying to help out as much as I can.
Anyways, enough with me blabbering on... Lets hear about you!
You know the phone is awesome when the introduce yourself thread is created a year and a half after release.
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You know the phone is awesome when the introduce yourself thread is created a year and a half after release.
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Well its just that here recently we've had a mass of new users show for whatever reason so guess now is better than never.
Seriously, I got mine in march of this year with phones surrounding the dinc that supposedly had better tech and have not looked back since. When my contract is up in two years, there will be some serious advancements in phone tech.
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Seriously, I got mine in march of this year with phones surrounding the dinc that supposedly had better tech and have not looked back since. When my contract is up in two years, there will be some serious advancements in phone tech.
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Yea that's me too. I got mine in March as well so I'm still in for the long haul. Just trying to help mold our forums into something fun and enjoyable for all of us alike.
Well i actually just recently got my incredible last month because i smashed my iphone 4(walls and apples don't mix). In the last 2 months I've done more on my phone than development wise than ever thought possible now I'm hooked.
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Well i actually just recently got my incredible last month because i smashed my iphone 4(walls and apples don't mix). In the last 2 months I've done more on my phone than development wise than ever thought possible now I'm hooked.
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That's cool bud, what kind of stuff do you do as far as development?
ALOT of learning right now. splash images, boot animations stuff like that. I'm starting to tear apart ROMs just to see whats where and what i can do.
My name is Don, and im a flash addict. I got my inc day 1, and wouldnt replace it right now with any other verizon phone.
If ive helped you, please hit the damn thanks button!
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ALOT of learning right now. splash images, boot animations stuff like that. I'm starting to tear apart ROMs just to see whats where and what i can do.
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Oh thats cool. Thats kinda where I started out as well. Making CM themes. Its been quite a road...
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My name is Don, and im a flash addict. I got my inc day 1, and wouldnt replace it right now with any other verizon phone.
If ive helped you, please hit the damn thanks button!
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Hi Don me too, lol. BTW what are you doing in here old timer? Just kidding.
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Retired Navy with 30 years in Subs. (Missile Technician)
I used this forum to root the other day.
This site seems to be used as a reference for others so I went to the source.
I rooted to the CM7 and the new radio that came out with gingerbread.
After going through the rooting process I am ready not to go through the setup again. TB kept force closing after each app install(took a long time) I'll wait for awhile and let the guru's play with the new GB and see what develops.
I am Ryan, been here since day 1. The root process was crazy involved then... Memories! But I got it, after three days of trying after work! I try to help here from my experiences I've had with my Inc. I've rooted my girl's Desire, my Xoom, and this week my buddy's Inc is getting the business!
I've done some minor tweaking of existing code, but haven't done any ROM creating/modding. I've made themes for myself, so I understand how to replace/edit/create draw 9 PNG's and replacing other files in APKs. I've become pretty good with GIMP, but have never created images from scratch.
Other than that, I'm a smart ass, like to golf, and am currently moving in with my girl. I've met really cool people in these forums, who I continue to talk with via Twitter or Gtalk.
Looking forward to helping anyone out, and meeting new/existing DInc owners.
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This sounds like an android support group ha
anyway..
Hi!
My name is Paul I've had my phone since November of last year, but only later decided I wanted to try this rooting shenanigans in January. I was again slow to switch from sense over to AOSP, but now since I've done all that I really love my phone and even now I just figured out there's a whole mess more you can do with widgetlocker and other theming apps.
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ALOT of learning right now. splash images, boot animations stuff like that. I'm starting to tear apart ROMs just to see whats where and what i can do.
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I've recently found a really cool site for android theming:
http://mycolorscreen.com/category/android/
Some of the stuff on there I had no idea you could even do, it's amazing.
I think there'll probably be more user who've had their Dinc for a while rather than newer users BUT ANYWAYS.... Well my name's Antonio and I'm 17. I'm hoping to go to either Princeton or Boston University and become an Anesthesiologist. The Dinc is my first smartphone and I got it in September 2010, but didn't root until sometime around December. I had no idea what root was, I found out more about it when Gingerbread first came out and builds started coming out for the Dinc. I began to do some research and I found Xda, but I didn't become a member until March of this year. I have since then become a flashaholic and the longest continous time I've had a ROM has been Pure Shooter for two weeks so far.... Do we get a gold star for this? Lol
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Oh wow guys, I didn't think this thread would gain such an awesome reaction. I've put my story in the OP so yall can see where I'm coming from as well.
Great stuff guys!
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Oh thats cool. Thats kinda where I started out as well. Making CM themes. Its been quite a road...
Well my friend, i like to post, lol. Yes, imma old timer, member since 08. But i still learn something new everyday. I also like to help people, so an intro here will let people know they can always ask me a question.
If ive helped you, please hit the damn thanks button!
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Well I'm not new, but I figured I'd chime in a bit!
Hi all! I'm Bob and I'm a college student with a major in Computer Science and minor in Information Systems. The HTC Incredible is my first smartphone, and since I got it on launch week, I've been hooked! I was pretty active on Android Forums, helping people out and whatnot but I finally decided to make XDA my permanent home.
I've recently begun developing apps for Android just as a fun side project. I have not made a ROM yet, but I have been heavily debating it. I think I'll give it a try when the real Gingerbread OTA comes out, but we'll see since I'll be busy with school starting back up AND work in a few days...
I try to help people out because this is a community. I try to give feedback as much as possible and like to point people in the right direction if ever needed. I am a bit of a ROM flashing addict and even the ROMs that I don't try, I at least read about and get familiarized with! The Inc community is seriously awesome, and we've only gotten better as a whole. Thanks to the devs and to all the members for making my hobby even more enjoyable!
cool idea; you know, i've always wondered about a lot of us here..we always talk phones and whatnot, but we dunno anything about eachother lol
well i'm jay (clearly lol) and i'm from the shore of NJ, born and raised (not to be affiliated with that dirtbag trash on that bull**** TV show, sigh.) i'm 24, i've got my bachelors from rutgers university and my masters from monmouth..unfortunately, since our wonderful government is utter **** right now, the fact that my degrees deal with getting a job in the state/federal government realm isn't helping whatsoever, as I can't land a gov job for the life of me...so i currently work for a small family-owned Verizon store that sells vzw phones, accessories and FiOS. besides that, i'm a musician of 11 years (bass, guitar, drums) and i play bass in a band.
as for my wonderful android journey, it only began in may of 2010 when my buddy sold me his htc eris for 20 bucks when he got his dinc on release day in the mail in april. he told me it'd be fine for me since it was my first smartphone, but he was sick of it already (had it for like 4 months lol) and that it was super laggy to him, so he got the dinc. well, the eris lasted me barely 3 months..even after rooting it and upping my processor speed with setcpu, the thing was still super laggy and the typing lag was atrocious..
so i was one of the people who ordered the Dinc during the Great Amoled Shortage of '10 hahah...ordered it early July, and got it on July 29th...kept it stock for a while, thought the phone was AMAZXING bc there was no typing lag etc...and then that damn Froyo OTA hit, and my phone just started crapping out. typing lag was about as bad as it was on the eris after that OTA, and i almost threw this phone so many times. so finally, in january of '11 i rooted...put on lou's redemptive revolution, still had keyboard lag, and was just super angry.
then i saw Z roms come about, and my lag was finally gone, and i've been playing with new roms ever since. so yeah, safe to say i've easily had this phone for a year and have no intentions on upgrading anytime soon! haha
whoa, that was a book! but whatever. i love my inc, and after just installing synergy again and the Warm theme for the first time, it's bringing me back to my early days of rooting when my first Z rom was warm z two.point.two!! ahh nostalgia.
I'm somewhat new here, due to my recent activity. But I recently got hold of an Incredible after my Droid A855 had growing digitizer issues. I haven't looked back because I really grew to like the device because it's extremely light (sometimes a little too light for comfort), and it's been smooth as melted butter. I'm currently running gingerbread inc deck 1.2b beta on my rooted Incredible. For what I consider(ed) a stop gap device, I'll be hard pressed to find a 4G phone I'll like enough to use my upgrade from VZW..
Another march guy. My name is cameron. I'm 17, currently jobless, have way too much on my plate for a 17 year old, and have the best girlfriend and family I could ask for.
The job field I want to get into its automotive. I've been tearing apart 350 small blocks, 429 big blocks, honda engines, and everything in between since I could walk.
I'm an admitted crackflasher (flashed every rom in the dev section at least once) I was introduced to android when I got a motorola defy for christmas (it blew)
One day I eventually wanna have a family of my own with this girl right here.
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I wanted to know if I should buy the unit unlocked now or wait till it comes out in America with AT&T?
If I wait for the AT&T version, though, it will likely come barraged with bloatware and features will be locked like tethering. I believe that rooting the Note will allow tethering and removal of the bloatware but I'm not sure. I am eligible for the 2 year discount if I get the Note with AT&T but how long will I have to wait?
I currently have the Dell Streak with a 5" screen and Rooted with a Streak-Droid custom ROM and all the bells and whistles included but this new G-Note is making me very happy! I gotta have one!
What do I do? $700 now with no Bloatware and tether ready or wait for AT&T to put there crap in it and pay $300 or so and then root it?
This is a video (a long a$$ video) of the Galaxy Note and Nexus World Tour in Europe. This should help you understand why this phone will be sought after sooooo much.
i have the same confusion.. but who knows when AT&T will get the phone.. 2 months or more wait i guess.. wait will kill me... on the other hand 700$ seems too much...
I have been battling this same debate.
Here's the pros to waiting:
1. Save at least $400.
2. Gives time to see what bugs may come out by first buyers.
3. Easier warranty replacement through local att store.
4. Better layout of buttons as ours will likely come with a search button.
5. Possibly an NFC enabled American version.
6. During your wait you fin out about another device right around the corner that blows this one away...samsung it notorious for announcing a new device that blows away their current devices. Who knows..super amoled plus hd 5 inch screen?
The negatives:
1. They get it first. You have to watch everyone enjoy their awesome device as you remain sleepless at night refreshes pages for an announcement of release here.
2. The wait could be anywhere from 2-6 months for a release here.
3. The international version will get updated first while we wait forever for ATT to approve the update here.
4. Missing the cool look of the one main button vs a stupid search button.
5. Lose interest...convert to being an Amish and start making your own jams.
I'm leaning more towards waiting, but my upgrade isn't up until Jan 1st anyway. I also don't see the benefit in buying an unsubsidized phone since we don't get lower monthly rates for it. I could maybe accept paying $400 if I could save $20 a month on rate plans over the next two years.
From my experiences, it's ALWAYS better to wait in these particular situations, where new technology is evolving so quickly. Let samsung work out the kinks on the 1st batch of notes. (i.e. 1st batch of ps2's were not as good)
I really wanted the samsung galaxy s2, but waited and now I'd rather have the note. Save money, and more better options will open up.
DPMAce said:
From my experiences, it's ALWAYS better to wait in these particular situations, where new technology is evolving so quickly. Let samsung work out the kinks on the 1st batch of notes. (i.e. 1st batch of ps2's were not as good)
I really wanted the samsung galaxy s2, but waited and now I'd rather have the note. Save money, and more better options will open up.
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On the other hand, I enjoyed the sgs2 for about 6 months now and can sell it and buy another phone.
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Live is short. Enjoy its pleasures while you can. I got my sg2 when it was lunch in Europe 6 months ago and I've enjoyed it. I feel like it's time for me to move on to a device like the Note. I want a super amoled HD screen bigger than 4.3" so bad that I will pay full price if I have to. I just wish it had NFC.
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For me I just can't see spending that much on a phone so I will wait for AT$T to get it. I am also worried about the warranty.
I am glad that I am a physician.
Study hard and work hard and you get to enjoy the fun toys in life.
I just ordered the unlocked Galaxy Note. I will be enjoying it a few months and then sell it at a loss and buy another high end phone. $700 for a phone is a lot but then it only take me about half a day to make $700. I could never wait for 2 months to get a new phone that I want. Time is money.
Life is short, so enjoy the fruit of your labor. I encountered dead and sick people often so I get to appreciate life a lot.
Earthbrain said:
I am glad that I am a physician.
Study hard and work hard and you get to enjoy the fun toys in life.
I just ordered the unlocked Galaxy Note. I will be enjoying it a few months and then sell it at a loss and buy another high end phone. $700 for a phone is a lot but then it only take me about half a day to make $700. I could never wait for 2 months to get a new phone that I want. Time is money.
Life is short, so enjoy the fruit of your labor. I encountered dead and sick people often so I get to appreciate life a lot.
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What he said.
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Earthbrain said:
I am glad that I am a physician.
Study hard and work hard and you get to enjoy the fun toys in life.
I just ordered the unlocked Galaxy Note. I will be enjoying it a few months and then sell it at a loss and buy another high end phone. $700 for a phone is a lot but then it only take me about half a day to make $700. I could never wait for 2 months to get a new phone that I want. Time is money.
Life is short, so enjoy the fruit of your labor. I encountered dead and sick people often so I get to appreciate life a lot.
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Where did you buy it?
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eallan said:
Where did you buy it?
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I pre-ordered it at MobileCityOnline.com
Earthbrain said:
I pre-ordered it at MobileCityOnline.com
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If they had a date i might pull the trigger.
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I have another question to ask...
Is the UK version of...let's say... the SGS2 the same as the American version. At least as far as Hardware is concerned.
I'm curious if it is common for Samsung to have Hardware differences in the same phones for different countries.
Anybody know?
This would make a huge difference in my decission to wait or not.
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I pre-ordered it at MobileCityOnline.com
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I pre-order one also the 26 but still no ETA
If it makes any difference to anyone sitting on the fence: I just read an article that said the FCC passed an AT&T version of the Note today. At first I thought "who cares," because I'm debating pre-ordering too, and as anyone else considering pre-ordering knows, the european model has support for at&t's radio frequencies anyway. BUT, the article pointed out the support for HSPA+, which I didn't consider before. I don't really care, as it's never made much of a difference for me, but if you do care, there ya have it.
The wait could still be a long, long time, but I like to hope that FCC approval means it will be here soon. Then again, maybe Sammy is just being diligent with paperwork... does anyone know when the AT&T GS2 passed through the FCC?
AT&T announced two new phones today, if the note was going to be on their network in less than a few weeks, I think they would have announced the Note too
Hey, Earthbrain: I don't mean to start a fight or get off topic, but I have to address the comment you made earlier. My father was a physician too, and I know it takes a lot of work to get there, it involves long hours, and you deserve to make a great salary. Not debating that. And I applaud your advice to study hard and work hard. But I don't like the implication that studying hard and working hard = good income. Not because that's a bad idea (it's a GREAT idea!), but because it's extremely untrue. I'm a teacher, and I work damn hard. As hard as a doctor? I can't say, I'm not a doctor, but I doubt it's a significant difference.
I know you didn't mean to be a jerk - you meant to give good advice - but it just feels like a slap in the face when you're busting your ass all the time for completely thankless work that pays less than 30K. You work hard and deserve a good salary, I just wish the state/school could afford to pay me 1/4 of your salary. Hell, 1/8 would be a miracle. My advice to any youngster/grade school student reading these forums: Work hard, study hard, be kind, and if you want a good salary (which is a good thing to have), choose your career accordingly.
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If it makes any difference to anyone sitting on the fence: I just read an article that said the FCC passed an AT&T version of the Note today.
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That article is a month old.
FCC approval was a long time ago and unfortunately it does not mean that ATT is going to get it soon
You have to ask yourself if you can wait that long before AT&T releases it. It took nearly 6 months for AT&T to get the SGS2 from the time I bought my SGS2 from Expansys-USA.
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Hey, Earthbrain: I don't mean to start a fight or get off topic, but I have to address the comment you made earlier. My father was a physician too, and I know it takes a lot of work to get there, it involves long hours, and you deserve to make a great salary. Not debating that. And I applaud your advice to study hard and work hard. But I don't like the implication that studying hard and working hard = good income. Not because that's a bad idea (it's a GREAT idea!), but because it's extremely untrue. I'm a teacher, and I work damn hard. As hard as a doctor? I can't say, I'm not a doctor, but I doubt it's a significant difference.
I know you didn't mean to be a jerk - you meant to give good advice - but it just feels like a slap in the face when you're busting your ass all the time for completely thankless work that pays less than 30K. You work hard and deserve a good salary, I just wish the state/school could afford to pay me 1/4 of your salary. Hell, 1/8 would be a miracle. My advice to any youngster/grade school student reading these forums: Work hard, study hard, be kind, and if you want a good salary (which is a good thing to have), choose your career accordingly.
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Sorry for being a little off topic but I have to clarify after reading this post.
When I said "study hard and work hard" I implied that you will have better chance of having a good income. I did not make it absolute like you stated as "study hard and work hard = good income"
Nothing is absolute in life except for DEATH.
Doctors work very hard, but of course there are exceptions and there will also be "some" teachers who work harder than "some" doctors. However, to put it in some perspective, imagine that you are a "certain" doctor that have to go to the hospital at 6:30 am to do rounds and go home at 7 p.m after admitting all the patients and then there are days when you are on call in which you are constantly being awaken by the nurses or that your heart is beating more rapidly trying to revive a patient from a code blue.
Oh, and speaking of salary differences. An orthodontist who does braces normally make about 5X the salary of a general doctor and normally does not work as hard and has less responsibility. They both "have to study hard and work hard" .... so why is there such a big gap in salary?
Guys? Let's take this personal discussion of careers and salaries offline to Private Message.
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What he said.
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What that guy said!