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Is there no other way to get the phone out of idle then pressing the button on the top of the phone?
it is a pain in the ass.
I agree, its not the most convenient.
Pressing the tracker ball does it for me.
lilHermit
You'll get used to it in no time!
Trackball method does not work for me.
doesnt work for me either, the tracker ball would be nice...
did you change an option for that?
The track ball doest do it for me either. I don't mind using the button on top of the phone. I've always used HTC phones and a lot of them use the button on top to wake it up. You should get used to it pretty quick.
Damn, I was hoping the trackball would work... I disliked this about the Droid as well. It takes two hands to unlock the phone, doesn't it? The G1 and MT3G methods were better.
shouldn't we be able to remap the button pressed to work with the trackball? (with root access that is)
i agree...im not liking the top button to wake up the phone...trackball does not wake it for me either...
CLOCK APP
I just realized if you open the clock application, and let the phone go to sleep, then you can "Turn it on" with the trackball or volume rocker.
Now if there was a way to have the phone set to "Sleep = Clock" we'd be golden; the clock screen doen't look that bad, either.
I will say, the button placement on the top is much better than the Motorola droid. I was worried myself, but I got used to it super fast, and it isn't an issue at all.
(Former G1 owner, used to just pressing menu twice)
Just download "Keyguard Disabler" from the Android Market. It will allow you to use the trackball to turn the screen back on.
The screen is capacitive touch, and so is the "hardware" buttons.
If you want to be able to power up the phone from sleep with these buttons, that would require the capacitive touchscreen to be active while the phone is sleeping.
Wouldn't that affect the battery life?
iifuzz said:
Is there no other way to get the phone out of idle then pressing the button on the top of the phone?
it is a pain in the ass.
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Agreed. look here too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613864&page=2
David1171 has a partial solution. Problem is I'm guessing, that there is no way to setup a double tap. Maybe someone knows.
I'm hoping that a future release of spare parts will have a setting for both a double or triple tap of the track bar to wake up, with or without the slide lock. ( I think that the slide lock would be less annoying if the track ball woke it up first instead of the poorly located power button) Also I am hoping that it will have settings to adjust the trackball notification flash speed and color for different google apps.
Just to let you know:
There is a thread about the trackball for wakeup thing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5337345
I got used to it pretty fast, its funny my other phone is a G1 and i find myself trying to unlock it by pushing up top all the time now haha, just become instinct.
I've heard a lot of people say they have trouble unlocking the Nexus One with one hand, but personally I have no trouble unlocking the device with one hand... with either hand.
lilHermit said:
Pressing the tracker ball does it for me.
lilHermit
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This person does not own a Nexus One.
Lockbot from market. Don't need pro, the free version will do.
Dunno why they copied the iPhone with the slide to unlock, with the magic its so easy you press the power button which is near the trackball then press menu.
It would be great if you could just press trackball then menu button to unlock.
Hello all,
I have not rooted my phone as of yet but plan on doing it. I used to have a G1 and moved to the slide. The biggest problem I have is I like to keep my phone in my pocket at work, but have to have the phone off. If I barely tap the phone's power button it turns on and I end up either pulling the battery or putting my phone in my lunch bag (praying no one takes it).
Anyone know if it is possible to change the power button to need a long press to turn on instead of a short press? Alternatively moving the power button to the genius button would work too.
Any ideas?
Can't you just put your phone into silent mode? Airplane mode? Or turn off the mobile network.
Unfortunatly for me to be able to have my phone on me it has to be off. It is a government facility and its their rules. I may be outta luck but figured I'd ask the fine people here.
Thanks!
It can be done
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i have been looking into remappring the buttons, follow link in sig above and it may help
tubaking182 said:
i have been looking into remappring the buttons, follow link in sig above and it may help
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I looked and in my keylayout directory, I have 3 *keypad.kl files, a Verion 0, 1, and 2... whats the deal on those?
Edit: Eh, doesn't really matter. None of them clearly had a "GENIUS" label. On was called SOFT RIGHT, which may or may not be it...
i was mainly looking into them last night, made bachups of course, tonight i will be playing with changing things and seeing if it works, i figure i will start be changing the A key in each version to something different(comma in one, period in another and something else in another) then we can see which version the phone is reading(i would think it would be v2 but idk) and then we can start remapping those buttons.
not sure how we would change power to require a long press though
May I advise a hard-case?
The idea is that it adds a layer around the phone, and this makes the power button indented. Protecting it from accidental hits.
1/8 of an inch makes all the diff.
Foolish Frost said:
May I advise a hard-case?
The idea is that it adds a layer around the phone, and this makes the power button indented. Protecting it from accidental hits.
1/8 of an inch makes all the diff.
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For an interim solution I may look into this. I know my problem isn't the norm so I appreciate all the comments!!
Thanks!
Junonion said:
For an interim solution I may look into this. I know my problem isn't the norm so I appreciate all the comments!!
Thanks!
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So in the creation of this abnormal problem, do you do anything abnormal? For instance, are you poking around in your pockets? Does your Government job require any running and jumping where as to cause crushing of objects into your pocket? Can you carry the phone in an exclusive pocket? (i.e. just the phone, no keys, loose change, peanuts, hard candy, etc.) food for thought...
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So in the creation of this abnormal problem, do you do anything abnormal? For instance, are you poking around in your pockets? Does your Government job require any running and jumping where as to cause crushing of objects into your pocket? Can you carry the phone in an exclusive pocket? (i.e. just the phone, no keys, loose change, peanuts, hard candy, etc.) food for thought...
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Nope, just an average guy sitting at a desk working with computers. I have nothing in the front left pocket of my pants other than lint and my phone normally. Thing is...the slide likes to slide around and all it takes is a tap of that power button. I wouldn't never know it was turning on if it wasn't for that annoying T-mobile sound (which I'll get rid of eventually if this problem is resolved).
I've also had the phone slide out of my pocket before and keeping it still in the car while listening to pandora can be interesting. I'll have to look for a good all-purpose case that could fix all these small annoyances I guess lol.
Didn't see it posted in here, but if you can boot into Clockwork Recovery using the update.zip in the root thread, under the Advanced menu, you can do a Key Test, and every key you press, it's key # is displayed. None shows up for the Genius button. This is probably because of what was mentioned before, being mapped by software, or something...
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Nope, just an average guy sitting at a desk working with computers. I have nothing in the front left pocket of my pants other than lint and my phone normally. Thing is...the slide likes to slide around and all it takes is a tap of that power button. I wouldn't never know it was turning on if it wasn't for that annoying T-mobile sound (which I'll get rid of eventually if this problem is resolved).
I've also had the phone slide out of my pocket before and keeping it still in the car while listening to pandora can be interesting. I'll have to look for a good all-purpose case that could fix all these small annoyances I guess lol.
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i know it isnt a solution to your problem, but if you power off the phone while in silent mode, it wont play the tmo sound when powering on the next time.
Not a solution, but it may keep you from being discovered if it does accidentally happen.
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Hello all,
I have not rooted my phone as of yet but plan on doing it. I used to have a G1 and moved to the slide. The biggest problem I have is I like to keep my phone in my pocket at work, but have to have the phone off. If I barely tap the phone's power button it turns on and I end up either pulling the battery or putting my phone in my lunch bag (praying no one takes it).
Anyone know if it is possible to change the power button to need a long press to turn on instead of a short press? Alternatively moving the power button to the genius button would work too.
Any ideas?
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Junonion said:
Unfortunatly for me to be able to have my phone on me it has to be off. It is a government facility and its their rules. I may be outta luck but figured I'd ask the fine people here.
Thanks!
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Not to sound like a smart ass but if you cant have it on when working then why keep it in your pocket? leave it in your car.
You maybe better off getting a case to keep the phone on your hip and out of your pocket. I personally don't like putting my phone in my pocket unless its a flip phone. I bought a case for cheap off of Ebay.
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Pop out the battery. That's my super-geek move to the power button issue =)
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Side note, as there seem to be possible issues with dust collecting under the bottom of the screen glass, may not be the best idea to keep it in your pocket unprotected anyway.
Do what I did, buy a holster from T-mobile. I basically have to do the same thing as you but only in my budiling! (Government facility also) reason I don't leave it in the car is that I like to have my phone with me in case I need to make a phone call outside of the office.
The holster keeps you from acidentally pressing the power button and its comfortable on your hip and its convient.
I just keep mine in the cloth case that came with my G1...if you still have it its worth a shot...it keeps the button from being pressed...
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FYI,
Power is key 116
Genius button is key 187
Well one of my biggest complains by far has got to be reaching my finger all the way across to the top everytime I want to use the phone. On my G1, every single one of the buttons could turn it on, and I know that on the nexus there is a hack called "trackball wake" that does precisely this. Does anyone think that they might be able to port this over? Lol and while we're on the topic of remapping buttons, how about porting the CM long press on volume rocker to skip songs?
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This type of thing really bothers me. You're seriously too lazy to reach up 3 inches to press the unlock button? Come on people, its a phone. Half the things on this forum are due to pure lazyness. No personal attack to you, just saying.
Other then that, no there's no app out at the moment. I'm sure cyanogen is working on it if its not done already. Probably waiting for perm root and custom recovery. Patience...
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I sometimes just pop the keyboard out-and-in and the screen unlocks. Especially easy since my hinge is loose... ;-(
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Well one of my biggest complains by far has got to be reaching my finger all the way across to the top everytime I want to use the phone. On my G1, every single one of the buttons could turn it on, and I know that on the nexus there is a hack called "trackball wake" that does precisely this. Does anyone think that they might be able to port this over? Lol and while we're on the topic of remapping buttons, how about porting the CM long press on volume rocker to skip songs?
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Maybe once the phone is rooted. Otherwise, we can only wish that HTC will pull their heads out of their asses and pay attention to some of the great features coming out of the ROM community.
So yeah, once the phone is rooted.
You know... I wouldnt mind having something like this. It'd be a little more convenient.
I wonder if Tasker can do something like this.
As long as it is configurable so I don't accidentally unlock the screen in my pocket and uselessly waste battery. I dunno my index finger is always sitting next to the power button when I am holding the phone, its not that hard.
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Coming from BB....
in BB the track pad is king.....is is not about laziness...but depending on the situation....if I have it sitting on my desk it would be nice to just press the tp with a finger, as opposed to having to hold the phone with my hand in order to press the top button....
How is this a matter of laziness? Sure I can reach up there, but wouldn't it be much easier just to press the button? It's a matter of convenience, not laziness. Also, my case covers the power button.
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This type of thing really bothers me. You're seriously too lazy to reach up 3 inches to press the unlock button? Come on people, its a phone. Half the things on this forum are due to pure lazyness. No personal attack to you, just saying.
Other then that, no there's no app out at the moment. I'm sure cyanogen is working on it if its not done already. Probably waiting for perm root and custom recovery. Patience...
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It' not a matter of lazyness, it's that it's different from the way I'm used to doing things. The whole point of android is that you can customize it however you like. I mean, according to your thinking, using a bluetooth/wifi/brightness toggle widget makes me lazy since all those settings can already be changed manually? Really?
And I know there's nothing out yet to do what I want. If you check logcat though, every time you push a button on the device you can see the output on the computer. I was hoping a more talented coder than I could help me achieve what I wanted, or at least could point me in the right direction so that I can try to figure this out on my own. Do we really need perma-root for this? It would definately help out so that we don't have to reaply it everytime, but we could make a gscript or something similar with what we have now.
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So are you saying that all people who use the trackball to wake up their phones are lazy? Are you saying that wanting to make it easier for myself is a matter a laziness? So what do you call a TV Remote. I COULD get up a turn the TV off, or I can use the remote. Your logic is flawed, maybe you need to find something worthwhile to ***** about.
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Gosh XDA can be is really mean.... I mean, I made a simple request because I thought it would be a nice feature to have but I'm getting eaten alive for being "lazy". If you look me up, you'll see that a good 85% of my posts are on the G1 are helping out newbies out. I was just expecting similar treatment here.
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That would be a great feature. On my Nexus I use NoLock from the market. One of the main reasons I use this is because of the power button on the Nexus had a history of dying after long wear and tear. If you can take away the wear and tear on a part with a history of failing then it is a big plus.I want this feature for my G2 as well. Tried both NoLock and Widgetlocker without success. They both work on the Nexus One without root.
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great idea. Thats why they did it on the nexus one....
no laziness. also because the power button broke easy on the nexus and people wanted a way to unlock their phone.
The power button being on top is one of my number one things i dislike about this phone, makes it akward to turn on. So I would LOVE track pad wake. Especially since my hard case kind makes the track pad recessed a bit so it would be hard to push in my pocket.
There is a app on the market called extended controls which has a option to turn off auto lock and use any button to wake the phone up I use it in the car when listening to music, pandora, or making phone calls...
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Yup it is kind of habit, not simply laziness
I am still getting used to pressing the power key and then swipe the screen to unlock, come on! Most of the time I just turn on then shut the screen
When I was using my G1 with custom rom all I need to do was to press the menu button twice
Hope this thing gets sorted out soon
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yup this thread is filled with dbags who have probably never customized anything in their lives and just accept things the way they are
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Yea I've never customized anything in my life even though the g2 is my 2nd android device ever. Wait not to mention I've bought and sold iphones for a living along with jailbreaking them in every possible way and customizing them for anyone with specific settings. But yea i guess "dbags like me never customized anything in my life" id customize my automatic reboot issue but i havent found out how so i guess i gotta accept things the way they are
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haha such a heated debate over this. but i agree the power button is in a really bad spot. i was baffled why they didnt make the trackball wake up the phone, especially since it doesnt stick out and sits flush with the front part of the phone so there's minimal chance of an accidental push. to have to push a small button on the very top and back part of the phone and then have to swipe across the bottom of the screen to unlock the phone is really a pain in the ass, especially using it with one hand. the only way it makes sense is if u slid down from the top right of the screen to unlock so u got one fluid motion going.
and while we're on the subject of dumb hardware decisions why the search button on the front but no phone button? maybe it's just me
I came from the iPhone 2G, so Im familar with the power button placement. It did take me a little time to get use to it since the G2 is slightly thicker. I dont think it's in a bad spot though.
Now if we want to talk about bad spots, then the micro USB port is the winner. Not sure what they were thinking there. Why cant it be at the bottom?
Anyway, the trackpad definitely needs a way to wake up the phone. If not a touch-to-wake at least a press-to-wake would be cool.
Personally, the power button should be reserved for powering down and locking the phone.
it was a simple hack on the mytouch slide when i had that, all we needed to do was change a few things in the keymaps and it was fixed, unfortunately since we have NAND locked device we would need to re-apply the hack every time(save hacked keymap to sdcard and add entry to visionary.sh to copy it over to /system) maybe i will look into it, maybe i won't either way the rest of you should be able to figure it out with some looking around the forums and at the correct files
yeah, need track pad and shutter button wake.
Of course the big issue with the Omnia 7 is the daft placement of the power button. To think that someone made the conscious decision to put it there, and that someone else approved it... makes you wonder.
Anyway, mine hasn't arrived yet but I'm guessing it should be relatively simple to replace the power button with one which doesn't stick out so far, or maybe to modify the current button by removing material from the internal face.
Could one of you guys who's already taken your Omnia apart have a look at the viability of this please?
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I haven't had a problem with it at all!
I assume that problems with the placement were theoretical because I have yet to accidentally switch off my phone as one review said would happen or even to press it while talking etc.
In fact I find it very handy as the button also switches on the screen when it is locked.
Hello,
After 2 weeks of using the phone I have to admit that the place of this power button is really nice : you can completly use your phone with a single hand, no need to get the "top" of the phone to shut it down or to wake it up...At first it's a little disturbing but very fast you will like it!
The guys that decided to put it there had a great idea (I was also scary about this at first)
See Ya'
I also thought I wouldn't get on with the power button being where it is but actually I really like it and find its in an easier place than on the top.
Been trying to think of what the best way would be for me to modify the power button on the verizon model.. Its stupidly difficult to distinguish...
So I tried a small clear rubber "foot" that you might find stuck on the bottom of a glass vase or decorative tray. You can get these at any walmart or craft store. They are meant to protect the surface the object is sitting on, as well as to reduce slipping. I had to cut it into a square to make it fit and it looks and works great! However, I have a feeling the adhesive will soon wear off and this thing will fall off coming in or out of my pocket one day. Its clear too so the power button light shows through. Its great, it just wont last..
Anyone else thought of anything to make this work? My other thought was a dab of hot glue..
So sorry! I realized I just posted this in the wrong forum. But now I can't figure out how to delete the thread or move it... This is a Verizon specific thing, but its not a software mod...
Admin - feel free to move if not appropriate..
I've been considering a similar mod. Verizon really screwed up these buttons. If I didn't want the wireless charging, I'd just swap out the back and buttons from the international variant.
I'm thinking of adding a drop of clear epoxy to the buttons. Need to do a little testing first, though, to see how best to get a tactile bump since the epoxy will tend to self-level.
No pun intended, but I am not sure what the big deal is over the power button. I very rarely even use it. I use knock on for the screen on and off. I only use the power button if I need to reboot or to shut the phone off.
The problem for me isn't just the power button, it's also the volume buttons. In general they are just all hard to distinguish between..
I will add that over the past day of using the rubber "foot", my phone has rebooted a few times, I think cause the button is being pushed in my pocket... It does stick out a little too much.. Probably need to use one that's not quite as tall...
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Look into Sugru, it will bond to virtually anything. I have used it to build up certain buttons on my tv remote with excellent results!
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hd-renegade said:
No pun intended, but I am not sure what the big deal is over the power button. I very rarely even use it. I use knock on for the screen on and off. I only use the power button if I need to reboot or to shut the phone off.
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The only time I use my power button is to turn the phone on. To turn it off I use the "Universal Touch Service" that I start by triple tapping on the home button/key/icon (whatever you want to call it). The after I turn the phone back on I just turn the service off. Very cool.
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Look into Sugru, it will bond to virtually anything. I have used it to build up certain buttons on my tv remote with excellent results!
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WOW!! How have I not heard of this stuff before! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cut a tiny square of skateboard grip tape and placed it on the power button. Works great and it's not permanent.
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As above, The problem isn't so much with the power button as it is with volume. I use my phone as an MP3 player all day, every day. I can't hardly distinguish between buttons when holding the phone in my hand, let alone while in my pocket.
Maybe I should use the volume rocker dongle that came with my IEMs...
I'm going to try a TINY dab of clear silicone on the power button.. Just gotta get to the store..
I still think the best thing may be a very small clear rubber foot, since it's very easily removable.. Gotta get to the store for one of those though too..
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So finally got this done! Using Sugru works awesome!!! Just make sure the dab you just is very very small or your phone will constantly be turned on our rebooted when you set it down...