Can I get Google Assistant without root? - LG V20 Questions & Answers

I tried out this guide for Marshmallow to get Google Assistant on my phone, but it looks like something's changed signature-wise in Nougat, because I get this error when I try to install the modded APK:
Code:
adb install -r Google/dist/Google.apk
3531 KB/s (48690418 bytes in 13.462s)
Failure [INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_NO_CERTIFICATES: Failed to collect certificates from /data/app/vmdl1063868361.tmp/base.apk: META-INF/CERT.SF indicates /data/app/vmdl1063868361.tmp/base.apk is signed using APK Signature Scheme v2, but no such signature was found. Signature stripped?]
I can't find a way to get around that, and I'm hoping maybe there's another method to get Google Assistant on my phone without root.
I have the H918, so I can root, but I'm going to be busy with school for the next few weeks, so I don't really want to wipe and risk bricking because I have to rush the process.

Zacharee1 said:
I tried out this guide for Marshmallow to get Google Assistant on my phone, but it looks like something's changed signature-wise in Nougat, because I get this error when I try to install the modded APK:
I can't find a way to get around that, and I'm hoping maybe there's another method to get Google Assistant on my phone without root.
I have the H918, so I can root, but I'm going to be busy with school for the next few weeks, so I don't really want to wipe and risk bricking because I have to rush the process.
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Need root. The new assistant is garbage anyway.
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BROKEN1981 said:
Need root. The new assistant is garbage anyway.
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It's better than Siri in everything I've compared, and it's fun to use too. I enjoy it a lot on my Note 4. Is this signature verification a new thing in Nougat, since the steps seem to work fine under Marshmallow?

Zacharee1 said:
It's better than Siri in everything I've compared, and it's fun to use too. I enjoy it a lot on my Note 4. Is this signature verification a new thing in Nougat, since the steps seem to work fine under Marshmallow?
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No it's not new because it used to do that to me on kit Kat and marshmallow if I wasn't rooted
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Subutek said:
No it's not new because it used to do that to me on kit Kat and marshmallow if I wasn't rooted
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I wonder why it works then... (On some devices)

Zacharee1 said:
I wonder why it works then... (On some devices)
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You might be thinking about Google now. The hot word "OK Google".
The new Google Assistant is a Pixel exclusive for now. It's garbage.
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BROKEN1981 said:
You might be thinking about Google now. The hot word "OK Google".
The new Google Assistant is a Pixel exclusive for now. It's garbage.
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No, I installed the Assistant Enabler Xposed module on my Note 4. I know that they're different, and I know what the differences are.
And please stop saying it's garbage. I've used it. It works well. It does what it says it does. It has fun games, and I enjoy using it. You may not think it's worth installing, but that doesn't mean it's low quality.

Zacharee1 said:
No, I installed the Assistant Enabler Xposed module on my Note 4. I know that they're different, and I know what the differences are.
And please stop saying it's garbage. I've used it. It works well. It does what it says it does. It has fun games, and I enjoy using it. You may not think it's worth installing, but that doesn't mean it's low quality.
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Well have fun with a sub par feature. OK Google works better. You can always use allo if you need it that badly. Or root and use the 1 click method.
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BROKEN1981 said:
Well have fun with a sub par feature. OK Google works better. You can always use allo if you need it that badly. Or root and use the 1 click method.
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Why do you hate it so much? Give me some real reasons instead of "it's bad." Allo doesn't include the games or the functionality. I'm pretty sure I mentioned that I'm holding off on rooting for now, so that's not gonna work.

Zacharee1 said:
No, I installed the Assistant Enabler Xposed module on my Note 4. I know that they're different, and I know what the differences are.
And please stop saying it's garbage. I've used it. It works well. It does what it says it does. It has fun games, and I enjoy using it. You may not think it's worth installing, but that doesn't mean it's low quality.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/setup-google-assistant-one-click-root-t3494763
Since you are on Android N, no need for extra steps.
As I've told you, you can't get it with out root......root is your only option.
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BROKEN1981 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/setup-google-assistant-one-click-root-t3494763
Since you are on Android N, no need for extra steps.
As I've told you, you can't get it with out root......root is your only option.
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The thread I was following indicates otherwise. I was looking for some troubleshooting possibilities or an explanation, not a deprecation of what I enjoy using.

Well, let me put it this way.... no.

The only way I know to get it is to edit the build.prop to spoof a Pixel. That, of course, requires root. It'll also break things that are LG dependent.
In the XDA newsfeed, there have been reports that some phones are not behaving well with the mod. Those same feeds report most of what you can achieve with Assistant can be done with Google Now and Allo. I can understand someone's desire to go for those things that can't be done with either Now or Allo.
For me, it doesn't yet pass the cost/benefit test. I'm keeping an eye on things, hoping a dev can incorporate Assistant within the stock ROM without losing the LG stuff. Maybe then I'll step up to the plate.

douger1957 said:
The only way I know to get it is to edit the build.prop to spoof a Pixel. That, of course, requires root. It'll also break things that are LG dependent.
In the XDA newsfeed, there have been reports that some phones are not behaving well with the mod. Those same feeds report most of what you can achieve with Assistant can be done with Google Now and Allo. I can understand someone's desire to go for those things that can't be done with either Now or Allo.
For me, it doesn't yet pass the cost/benefit test. I'm keeping an eye on things, hoping a dev can incorporate Assistant within the stock ROM without losing the LG stuff. Maybe then I'll step up to the plate.
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Well I know it's possible to do. hsbadr made Google Assistant the default on CM14.1 for the Note 4, without build.prop edits. It's also possible with the Xposed module (so once we get Xposed on Nougat, it'll be simple). It's also apparently possible with the guide I've been trying to follow, but it looks like that needs root too on Nougat for some reason.

Zacharee1 said:
Well I know it's possible to do. hsbadr made Google Assistant the default on CM14.1 for the Note 4, without build.prop edits. It's also possible with the Xposed module (so once we get Xposed on Nougat, it'll be simple). It's also apparently possible with the guide I've been trying to follow, but it looks like that needs root too on Nougat for some reason.
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So I"m wondering when you were tinkering did you remember to sign the apk when you finished?

markbencze said:
So I"m wondering when you were tinkering did you remember to sign the apk when you finished?
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Can't do that. The hack says to copy the META-INF folder from the old APK into the new one. Resigning just gives me the different signature error.

Zacharee1 said:
Can't do that. The hack says to copy the META-INF folder from the old APK into the new one. Resigning just gives me the different signature error.
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Hmm I'll have to look at this later on and see. I like assistant also

markbencze said:
Hmm I'll have to look at this later on and see. I like assistant also
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Thanks for taking the time
(I've reached my thanks limit apparently...)

Yes it's possible to add google assistant without root to LG V20.
https://beebom.com/how-enable-google-assistant-any-android-no-root/
or
http://www.xiaomitoday.com/get-google-assistant-on-marshmallow/
By now I read that google assistant is only available in USA and Germany.

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Call to Arms! - Root detection

There is a big problem on the horizon.....
Lovefilm and Sky Go on my iPad have stopped working due to my jailbreak...
Turns out Sky Go doesnt work on Rooted Android either!
As much as i hate Sky as a company we dont have much choice in the UK if you want some decent channels on TV. I dont even use their app that much but this trend seems to be catching on...
More and more apps are refusing to run on Jailbroken iOS and the same will be happening on Android soon enough. They are also actively patching any work arounds or hacks to stop people running apps on Rooted or JB devices.
i really hope some of the talented people who code for android can find a good solution to this problem or even better Google comes out and tells the world that Rooters should not lose out like this.
If we can make it so much work for them to keep fixing the holes then maybe they will get fed up with trying to patch them.
Because if we dont then more and more apps will follow!
irzero said:
There is a big problem on the horizon.....
Lovefilm and Sky Go on my iPad have stopped working due to my jailbreak...
Turns out Sky Go doesnt work on Rooted Android either!
As much as i hate Sky as a company we dont have much choice in the UK if you want some decent channels on TV. I dont even use their app that much but this trend seems to be catching on...
More and more apps are refusing to run on Jailbroken iOS and the same will be happening on Android soon enough. They are also actively patching any work arounds or hacks to stop people running apps on Rooted or JB devices.
i really hope some of the talented people who code for android can find a good solution to this problem or even better Google comes out and tells the world that Rooters should not lose out like this.
If we can make it so much work for them to keep fixing the holes then maybe they will get fed up with trying to patch them.
Because if we dont then more and more apps will follow!
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I know that feel bro
*insert hug meme*
irzero said:
There is a big problem on the horizon.....
Lovefilm and Sky Go on my iPad have stopped working due to my jailbreak...
Turns out Sky Go doesnt work on Rooted Android either!
As much as i hate Sky as a company we dont have much choice in the UK if you want some decent channels on TV. I dont even use their app that much but this trend seems to be catching on...
More and more apps are refusing to run on Jailbroken iOS and the same will be happening on Android soon enough. They are also actively patching any work arounds or hacks to stop people running apps on Rooted or JB devices.
i really hope some of the talented people who code for android can find a good solution to this problem or even better Google comes out and tells the world that Rooters should not lose out like this.
If we can make it so much work for them to keep fixing the holes then maybe they will get fed up with trying to patch them.
Because if we dont then more and more apps will follow!
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There are some apps out there that will temp unroot your phone so apps like that will work. then you just restore it(OTA rootkeeper allows this). Also I think Siyah kernel supports temp unrooting
graffixnyc said:
There are some apps out there that will temp unroot your phone so apps like that will work. then you just restore it(OTA rootkeeper allows this). Also I think Siyah kernel supports temp unrooting
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Siyah kernel does support temp unrooting, but somehow Sky Go still knows your phone is rooted, and it won't work. So far from the reading I have done there is no solution to this other than to flash back to a stock unrooted firmware.
I don't think it will become the rule on android, because there are to many apps that even need root, but at ios, probably because jailbreak is the only possibility to get, at least partially, out of their ecosystem.
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someone found a work around for the Barclays banking app I think...I'm sure it was here in general so you may find some hints there
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here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823649
[HOW TO] Barclays Mobile Banking working on rooted S3
As far as I know. Sky Go has gotten around everything so far.
I see not to far in the future a situation where you have to either root and lose lots of apps you use or lose the root lose lots of apps you use.
That's a crap situation for sure
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Sky have invested a heck of a lot of time and money to making the latest Sky Go apps very very hard to hack!
They now do a lot of checking on their severs which makes it impossible for us to hack around.
I am sorry but I don't think we will ever get sky go working properly with root, and as soon as we did sky would update the app to fix the loophole.
Google won't do anything because rooted android isn't standard android. The android platform isn't built like windows or OS X, where the default is the user having root available.
Therefore security (DRM in particular) on those platforms is built with that in mind. Android isn't.
Also, while you might have the best of intentions there are plenty of root-users who would use it to copy content offline, trick it into thinking you have a subscription whe you don't etc.
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Lennyuk said:
Sky have invested a heck of a lot of time and money to making the latest Sky Go apps very very hard to hack!
They now do a lot of checking on their severs which makes it impossible for us to hack around.
I am sorry but I don't think we will ever get sky go working properly with root, and as soon as we did sky would update the app to fix the loophole.
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This sux for sure.
On iPad they sandboxed the app in its own virtual environment. could this trick it into think its running on unrooted firmware?
I can't see how there is no way around this. If the app tests root, deny it, if it scans for root binaries, change/rename them. What am I missing here? Is there some other level of detection somewhere?
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esist said:
Google won't do anything because rooted android isn't standard android. The android platform isn't built like windows or OS X, where the default is the user having root available.
Therefore security (DRM in particular) on those platforms is built with that in mind. Android isn't.
Also, while you might have the best of intentions there are plenty of root-users who would use it to copy content offline, trick it into thinking you have a subscription whe you don't etc.
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You cant get the content without a subscription anyway, the problem has been people UDID spoofing and getting more active devices than they are allowed. Its a joke that they limit this anyway they should just make it so you can only be logged in on 2 devices at any one time using traditional methods like IP address and IMEI
alias_neo said:
I can't see how there is no way around this. If the app tests root, deny it, if it scans for root binaries, change/rename them. What am I missing here? Is there some other level of detection somewhere?
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temporary unroot doesnt even work so i dont know how it works personally. Out of my depth on this
alias_neo said:
I can't see how there is no way around this. If the app tests root, deny it, if it scans for root binaries, change/rename them. What am I missing here? Is there some other level of detection somewhere?
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The Sky Go app is a bastard
This is a list of some of the things it checks (but not all)
- Root binaries
- Root App
- Phone model
- Android version
- Custom Recovery
- Custom Kernels
- IMEI checks (stops wifi-only tablets..)
The first 4 are simple to overcome, the last three cause major issues!
Lennyuk said:
The Sky Go app is a bastard
This is a list of some of the things it checks (but not all)
- Root binaries
- Root App
- Phone model
- Android version
- Custom Recovery
- Custom Kernels
- IMEI checks (stops wifi-only tablets..)
The first 4 are simple to overcome, the last three cause major issues!
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Why would that stop wifi tablets? it works on my iPad wifi only?
irzero said:
Why would that stop wifi tablets? it works on my iPad wifi only?
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the Apple skygo app works differently, it doesn't check for IMEI.
wifi-only android tablets do not have IMEI numbers so it will always fail this check
Lennyuk said:
The Sky Go app is a bastard
This is a list of some of the things it checks (but not all)
- Root binaries
- Root App
- Phone model
- Android version
- Custom Recovery
- Custom Kernels
- IMEI checks (stops wifi-only tablets..)
The first 4 are simple to overcome, the last three cause major issues!
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How in earth does this user space application have the ability to check custom recovery? I suppose kernel might be easy, but recovery??
Still, there must be ways around it.
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alias_neo said:
How in earth does this user space application have the ability to check custom recovery? I suppose kernel might be easy, but recovery??
Still, there must be ways around it.
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Thats the thing, we (me and two others who worked on hacking this app) couldn't work it out! But it definitely was detecting it, we tried it on Samsung and HTC devices with no root and stock kernel but with a custom recovery and sky go stopped worked, change back to stock recovery and the app works again but we could not find any code that checked it.
On most devices to get it to work you need a stock based rom, stock recovery (unless recovery is part of kernel like S2) stock based kernel (ro.secure=1 must be set!) no or hidden root. You then need to make sure you fit the device or version checks, if you don't you need a hacked app that allows you to do this.
However the latest sky go apps do a sever side check for the apps signature (so you cannot decompile and recompile without changing this). So basically we can no longer do even the most basic of hacks.
Lennyuk said:
Thats the thing, we (me and two others who worked on hacking this app) couldn't work it out! But it definitely was detecting it, we tried it on Samsung and HTC devices with no root and stock kernel but with a custom recovery and sky go stopped worked, change back to stock recovery and the app works again but we could not find any code that checked it.
On most devices to get it to work you need a stock based rom, stock recovery (unless recovery is part of kernel like S2) stock based kernel (ro.secure=1 must be set!) no or hidden root. You then need to make sure you fit the device or version checks, if you don't you need a hacked app that allows you to do this.
However the latest sky go apps do a sever side check for the apps signature (so you cannot decompile and recompile without changing this). So basically we can no longer do even the most basic of hacks.
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Surely you can modify it to spoof the signature the app uses to send to the server...
They really have gone all out eh.
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Well done sky, you bastards!
I have a Nexus 7 2012 WiFi only so ytheres no chance of using it on there :'(
Thanks LennyUK

So its lonely here....

Picked up my 10.1 yesterday from best buy...and apparently im the only one? Someone come play with me ?
jinsoku3g said:
Picked up my 10.1 yesterday from best buy...and apparently im the only one? Someone come play with me ?
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I'm here, my friend. Just waiting to see what devs do with this tab. It's lower-end, but it's snappy and feels premium. I hope we can get some CM action on this bad boy. Depends on the popularity, but I think the price point should help a lot.
darthvince said:
I'm here, my friend. Just waiting to see what devs do with this tab. It's lower-end, but it's snappy and feels premium. I hope we can get some CM action on this bad boy. Depends on the popularity, but I think the price point should help a lot.
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The only thing low end is the price this feels nicer than my transformer prime. Does have a small lag from time to time opening apps though.
jinsoku3g said:
The only thing low end is the price this feels nicer than my transformer prime. Does have a small lag from time to time opening apps though.
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Yea well it does have *slightly* better specs than the Prime, but the Prime was released in 2012. The price can't be beat, tho. I hope people flock to it.
I think part of the reason there's no one here is because you can't find this tablet anywhere but a few brick-and-mortar Best Buy stores right now. I can't find a single online retailer that lists it in their stock yet. Once it's widely available, this forum should fill up. For now, it's just you and me, I guess lol.
darthvince said:
I think part of the reason there's no one here is because you can't find this tablet anywhere but a few brick-and-mortar Best Buy stores right now. I can't find a single online retailer that lists it in their stock yet. Once it's widely available, this forum should fill up. For now, it's just you and me, I guess lol.
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True that. Im looking foreard to rooting, and opening up dual window to all apps. How does yours run?
Just picked mine up from BestBuy. Rooted with Towelroot and Xposed. I have found that the G3 tweaks xposed module works, haven't tested all of it but ehat i have so far works.
tony710 said:
Just picked mine up from BestBuy. Rooted with Towelroot and Xposed. I have found that the G3 tweaks xposed module works, haven't tested all of it but ehat i have so far works.
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Wow. Can you post a guide?
Sure thing.
Here is towel root https://towelroot.com
Download the app a day run it, will give you root. After that download supersu from the market and run it.
Download xposed from here http://repo.xposed.info
I think latest stable is 2.6.1.
After that you can download the g3 tweak from the market. The g3 and 10.1 are very similar rom wise, I've been able go use some of the theme tweaks (every one tried has worked, but can't guarantee all of it works since it's for the g3)
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I grabbed a 7" and hoping this picks up. Also a separate forum if necessary
I can confirm that this works. I even picked up an app from the play store that allows you to add any app to the duel windows. Ive wanted that function ever since i got this device! I havnt played with the framwork too much but seems to work.
I guess the only thing missing is a custom recovery. Any insight on that anybody?
BTW, towel root was the easiest root ever. One click app. No hooking up to a computer.
tony710 said:
Sure thing.
Here is towel root https://towelroot.com
Download the app a day run it, will give you root. After that download supersu from the market and run it.
Download xposed from here http://repo.xposed.info
I think latest stable is 2.6.1.
After that you can download the g3 tweak from the market. The g3 and 10.1 are very similar rom wise, I've been able go use some of the theme tweaks (every one tried has worked, but can't guarantee all of it works since it's for the g3)
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imitenotbecrazy said:
I grabbed a 7" and hoping this picks up. Also a separate forum if necessary
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I also ordered one yesterday. I will try to root it with towelroot and post the results.
What app unlocked the dual window
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simpson1190 said:
I can confirm that this works. I even picked up an app from the play store that allows you to add any app to the duel windows. Ive wanted that function ever since i got this device! I havnt played with the framwork too much but seems to work.
I guess the only thing missing is a custom recovery. Any insight on that anybody?
BTW, towel root was the easiest root ever. One click app. No hooking up to a computer.
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I wonder if LG threw in an encrypted boot loader on the tabs. Also I couldn't find any information on this but does the G Pad 10.1 support USB OTG? I plan on picking one up within the week and hopefully get a custom recovery going soon after.
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What app unlocked the dual window
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Flex multi window mod
I got one and i rooted it with towelroot with no problem. Even installed flex multi window app and works fine. The only problem is that it doesn't support NTFS usb sticks. I don't have any FAT32 right now to try but i'll search if it's possible to add NTFS support.
coming soon my 7.0 !!
Can someone please see if you can enable Chromecast's screen mirroring after rooting the 10.1 by using the Mirror Enabler app?
I greatly appreciate it.
I just got the gpad 7.0 from att with the G3 bundle for 99cents. Im trying to decide if I want to keep it or return. The screen quality isn't all that great. I also couldn't root it with towelroot as it says its not supported. I wish there were more activity in the forums for the g pads too.
Update: I was able to successfully root the G Pad 7.0 At&t version using purpledrake. LG-V410
I got my mom a like new g pad 7.0 off ebay for nice price but didn't realize it's the At&T version. We are just going to use it with Wi-Fi. That shouldn't be a problem right?
also, is there a way to stop the pad from asking for sim card besides turning on airplane mode? thank you

Google Pixel Rooted

Google Pixel has been rooted, and no surprises as to who did it.
https://twitter.com/ChainfireXDA/status/791576935977644032
He also goes on to say
"That root is with verity disabled and modified /system. Going to continue trying to get it working without this requirement."
Enjoy and Have a good weekend ahead peeps!!
Edit
Systemless root achieved.
https://twitter.com/ChainfireXDA/status/791748015925161984
ohh man amazing!!!
Why hasn't Google hired him yet?
What is this "varity" thing that gets disabled?
matrix0886 said:
What is this "varity" thing that gets disabled?
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http://www.xda-developers.com/a-look-at-marshmallow-root-verity-complications/
"Victory is mine! Full systemless root achieved. Boot image mods only, /system fully intact, dm-verity switchable. #pixel"
"@ChainfireXDA: It's done! Going to take a break now. Release later today or tomorrow. Can't wait for you guys to find all the bugs /s"
#ChainfireTweets
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Hahahaha, lol. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING special about pixel in regards to root. Works JUST LIKE every Nexus running 6.0+. I was running with root on ours on **october 20th**.
doitright said:
Hahahaha, lol. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING special about pixel in regards to root. Works JUST LIKE every Nexus running 6.0+. I was running with root on ours on **october 20th**.
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Eh? I think,
You are wrong....
There is pretty much EVERYTHING DECENT about Chainfire's ability and dedication to continue rooting each successive version of Android. Pixel was first to ship with 7.1, and there ARE differences between the new systemless root and 6.0 or 6.0.1 root methodology.
Why does your message just sound like a CALITALIZED rambling of a spoilsport? I dunno. It does to me, anyway.
There is like nothing special about ANYthing new, got us there aha!
I like the advent of new tech and new methods, even if novelty is old by now.
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nednednerb said:
Eh? I think,
You are wrong....
There is pretty much EVERYTHING DECENT about Chainfire's ability and dedication to continue rooting each successive version of Android. Pixel was first to ship with 7.1, and there ARE differences between the new systemless root and 6.0 or 6.0.1 root methodology.
Why does your message just sound like a CALITALIZED rambling of a spoilsport? I dunno. It does to me, anyway.
There is like nothing special about ANYthing new, got us there aha!
I like the advent of new tech and new methods, even if novelty is old by now.
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No there isn't.
The only explanation for keeping the source code closed, is because he is HIDING something in it. I wouldn't touch that garbage if my life depended on it.
WHY DO YOU THINK I MAINTAIN MY OWN SOURCE?
And like I already said, there was *absolutely nothing* special about the pixel.
He's just trying to drum up an "awww cool" factor that is undeserved.
doitright said:
No there isn't.
The only explanation for keeping the source code closed, is because he is HIDING something in it. I wouldn't touch that garbage if my life depended on it.
WHY DO YOU THINK I MAINTAIN MY OWN SOURCE?.
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I literally have a diagnosis of schizophrenia, and you might not. However, I can instantly recognise paranoid conspiracy theory.
Literally, the "only" reason -ever- for *shudder* an Android dev protecting some measure of private and intellectual property is..... He is evil and hiding his violence from all of us!?
Cool story bro.
Maintain your own source if you want, but people are allowed to keep some property to themselves.
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REQUEST: Marshmallow ROM for Pixel XL

Sorry, didnt know what thread to post in.
Can someone compile a Marshmallow ROM for Pixel XL? Just so that we can run our beloved Xposed module, please? I can even donate few $ if that's the motivation.
ink718 said:
Sorry, didnt know what thread to post in.
Can someone compile a Marshmallow ROM for Pixel XL? Just so that we can run our beloved Xposed module, please? I can even donate few $ if that's the motivation.
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Highly doubt it would be possible unless someone puts in tremendous hours of work into this since the pixel came with nougat.
I just don't see some Dev putting hours into this just for xposed and for an obsolete version of Android.
ink718 said:
Sorry, didnt know what thread to post in.
Can someone compile a Marshmallow ROM for Pixel XL? Just so that we can run our beloved Xposed module, please? I can even donate few $ if that's the motivation.
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lol
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Lol not gonna happen.
Grrr that's a bummer. I'm still rocking my m8 due to no Xposed on Nougat. Only damn reason I have not activated my Pixel.
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ink718 said:
Grrr that's a bummer. I'm still rocking my m8 due to no Xposed on Nougat. Only damn reason I have not activated my Pixel.
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What do you need Xposed for so badly..?
Xposed isn't really needed for much anymore. I mean most stuff u can do on xposed you can do with root, or root app, or an app, or flashable zip. And MM not gonna happen like he said, wishful thinking, lol. We need an Android O ROM though ? once TWRP works on O.
ink718 said:
Sorry, didnt know what thread to post in.
Can someone compile a Marshmallow ROM for Pixel XL? Just so that we can run our beloved Xposed module, please? I can even donate few $ if that's the motivation.
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Generally speaking, such requests belong in the Q&A forum.
That stated, I can't imagine having the nerve to ask a question that starts with the words "can someone compile a ROM..."
In a word, this request should have never been made.
As others have mentioned, it's not likely someone can build a ROM based on an operating system that has never been available with this device.
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admiralspeedy said:
What do you need Xposed for so badly..?
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Hope you know there's a HUGE # of people not upgrading/flashing ROMs beyond Marshmallow due to Xposed not being compatible.
yung40oz84 said:
Xposed isn't really needed for much anymore. I mean most stuff u can do on xposed you can do with root, or root app, or an app, or flashable zip. And MM not gonna happen like he said, wishful thinking, lol. We need an Android O ROM though ? once TWRP works on O.
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I have a few modules I need.
micmars said:
Generally speaking, such requests belong in the Q&A forum.
That stated, I can't imagine having the nerve to ask a question that starts with the words "can someone compile a ROM..."
In a word, this request should have never been made.
As others have mentioned, it's not likely someone can build a ROM based on an operating system that has never been available with this device.
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OK thanks MR.MODERATOR. I'll put a request in and hopefully they have the nerve to make you mod.
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ink718 said:
Hope you know there's a HUGE # of people not upgrading/flashing ROMs beyond Marshmallow due to Xposed not being compatible.
I have a few modules I need.
OK thanks MR.MODERATOR. I'll put a request in and hopefully they have the nerve to make you mod.
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few modules you need... like?
wow...
just wow.
ink718 said:
Hope you know there's a HUGE # of people not upgrading/flashing ROMs beyond Marshmallow due to Xposed not being compatible.
I have a few modules I need.
OK thanks MR.MODERATOR. I'll put a request in and hopefully they have the nerve to make you mod.
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Wait, on the Pixel and Pixel XL devices? We had Marshmallow?
Yeah, there are SEVERAL xposed modules I miss very much.
They gave me options that you cannot find in any Nougat custom ROM.
I'd LOVE to see MarshMallow on Pixel but that's not going to happen.
NotifyClean and EnhancedToast are two that I miss the most, just off the top of my head.
But I had like 15-20 modules on MarshMallow and some are no longer needed but some I really miss.
I'd pay a lot of money just for NotifyClean alone. Nougat has a similar option built-in but it sucks badly in comparison to what NotifyClean can do.
I also liked the one for PlayStore that made PlayStore open directly to "my apps" instead of the main page.
App Settings, Expand Volume, Native Clipboard, CrappaLinks, APM+.
Then there were MANY modules that did clone of what custom ROM's offer. But by simply re-enabling the saved modules after clean flashing a new ROM, you saved a TON of time by not having to set each item individually in ROM settings. Like App Ops Exposed, GravityBox, Lock Screen Mods, etc.
I'd pay big money for App Settings also. Though it hasn't worked properly since Lollipop.
Jammol said:
Wait, on the Pixel and Pixel XL devices? We had Marshmallow?
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No. The earliest XL Firmware 7.1.0
y2grae said:
few modules you need... like?
wow...
just wow.
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you read that sarcastically as well? lol
CZ Eddie said:
Yeah, there are SEVERAL xposed modules I miss very much.
They gave me options that you cannot find in any Nougat custom ROM.
I'd LOVE to see MarshMallow on Pixel but that's not going to happen.
NotifyClean and EnhancedToast are two that I miss the most, just off the top of my head.
But I had like 15-20 modules on MarshMallow and some are no longer needed but some I really miss.
I'd pay a lot of money just for NotifyClean alone. Nougat has a similar option built-in but it sucks badly in comparison to what NotifyClean can do.
I also liked the one for PlayStore that made PlayStore open directly to "my apps" instead of the main page.
App Settings, Expand Volume, Native Clipboard, CrappaLinks, APM+.
Then there were MANY modules that did clone of what custom ROM's offer. But by simply re-enabling the saved modules after clean flashing a new ROM, you saved a TON of time by not having to set each item individually in ROM settings. Like App Ops Exposed, GravityBox, Lock Screen Mods, etc.
I'd pay big money for App Settings also. Though it hasn't worked properly since Lollipop.
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You can create a shortcut to the my apps page on your home screen by long pressing the play store, if that helps.
Some people posting to take up space to lash out. Obviously they don't know how great Xposed(swift knife for android) is and means to Android. Or they just idiots trying to gain credibility. Xposed owns!
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ink718 said:
Some people posting to take up space to lash out. Obviously they don't know how great Xposed(swift knife for android) is and means to Android. Or they just idiots trying to gain credibility. Xposed owns!
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Never needed Xposed, most Roms had what I wanted. To reach their own, some people love it and others don't care for it.
ink718 said:
Some people posting to take up space to lash out. Obviously they don't know how great Xposed(swift knife for android) is and means to Android. Or they just idiots trying to gain credibility. Xposed owns!
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I mean, I love xposed, and totally see where you're coming from, but calling others idiots isn't necessary..
I understand, its frustrating when you say "I like this feature, does anyone know how to port it?" But others respond with "I never needed it, therefore you shouldn't need it."
I liked xposed because I could get all my favorite lineage/cm features on any ROM I waa on.. I haven't seen a screen off, long press volume button seek tracks app to work on nougat. Macrodroid has gotten close, but not completely there.
Believe me, I kept my oneplus 3 on marshmallow for months after nougat rolled out because xposed. And here you are nearly a year out. But I think what might be a good option as well is to make a list of modules you use, post them, and see what apps others recommend.
Figure if the need was bad enough one would figure out how to port it themselves ?
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Figure if the need was bad enough one would figure out how to port it themselves ?
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Captain hindsight!! ??????

Say Bye to third party themes on pie.

Just thought I'd let those of you who can't root their note and didn't know that Samsung blocked all the ability to theme/change fonts on your phone from anywhere but their official theme store. So, if you have substratum and have purchased andromeda, themegalaxy, swift installer.....etc, you are SOL. In order for any of those to work, you'd have to have root. This is going to be my last Sammy phone ever. First they lock down their bootloaders (I know carriers are involved and want you to upgrade every year), then now are locking any third party themes. And to top it off, they are horrible at pushing updates/new software to their customers. If you buy a locked down phone, you'd get a couple of updates (I mean android versions not security updates) then you're stuck with an older version of android until you buy a new phone.
Just thought I'd throw this out there so you decide whether or not to update to pie. IF there is a way to block automatic updates.
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Swift installer still works
Isn't theme issues (whatever level of issues) on Pie have to do with Google killing it and not the phone OEM? Google killed call recording on Pie. They seems to be wanting to kill more and more features we've been depending on that have nothing to do with Samsung.
i have nova launcher on pie with a note 9 with no problems
Gil Smash said:
Swift installer still works
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That's not what the developer of the app said on the latest update. They announced that on their telegram chat. Wings fonts and theme Galaxy did, too along with some other themers. But I sure hope that you're right, though.
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roaduardo said:
Isn't theme issues (whatever level of issues) on Pie have to do with Google killing it and not the phone OEM? Google killed call recording on Pie. They seems to be wanting to kill more and more features we've been depending on that have nothing to do with Samsung.
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The developers mentioned that "Samsung blocked overlays (or something like that) on pie.
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wuelfman said:
i have nova launcher on pie with a note 9 with no problems
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Nova isn't a theme, it's a launcher and has nothing to do with this thread's subject. Lol
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K-alz said:
The developers mentioned that "Samsung blocked overlays (or something like that) on pie.
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The main issue from what I was told about from a theme developer, also read it a bunch of times when Pixel got the update, overlays are not going to as they used to work before. With every upstate, Google is doing work to kill overlays... Put is just the latest
le0.br4zuc4 said:
The main issue from what I was told about from a theme developer, also read it a bunch of times when Pixel got the update, overlays are not going to as they used to work before. With every upstate, Google is doing work to kill overlays... Put is just the latest
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I hope that the devs will find a work around. I don't know what's in it for Google to kill overlays. Their pixel doesn't even support themes. Just leave people alone.
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I hope that the devs will find a work around. I don't know what's in it for Google to kill overlays. Their pixel doesn't even support themes. Just leave people alone.
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I think is has to do with Google slowly working towards making a dark theme systemwide, should be available on next version of Android. You can also expect even more difficulties using overlays on next Android.
Google is trying to tighten things up on Android. Do I like? No! But we can't say they are wrong to do it either.
I mean, look at how many Android devices are activated daily. Security lately is a much bigger concern for all companies and users. Blocking modifications and overlays is a way of making your phone more secure.
Thanks for sharing but I don't use third party themes anymore since most of them seems to drain the battery way too much
Why not just downgrade to Oreo 8.1 ? PIE-9 ONE UI Sucks at the moment.. Maybe 6 months or a years’ time it might get there and then ill upgrade!! Until then I’m sticking to 8.1 as it rocks!
im on pie and i change font by afont app in store and its work fine
K-alz said:
Just thought I'd let those of you who can't root their note and didn't know that Samsung blocked all the ability to theme/change fonts on your phone from anywhere but their official theme store. So, if you have substratum and have purchased andromeda, themegalaxy, swift installer.....etc, you are SOL. In order for any of those to work, you'd have to have root. This is going to be my last Sammy phone ever. First they lock down their bootloaders (I know carriers are involved and want you to upgrade every year), then now are locking any third party themes. And to top it off, they are horrible at pushing updates/new software to their customers. If you buy a locked down phone, you'd get a couple of updates (I mean android versions not security updates) then you're stuck with an older version of android until you buy a new phone.
Just thought I'd throw this out there so you decide whether or not to update to pie. IF there is a way to block automatic updates.
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I get the frustration, I think you may have some misplaced blame however. Right now I'm on Oreo Note 9, (SM-N960U1) root not possible, and wish I could stay on it, screw Pie and google. <-They are the ones you should be pointing at!
Hell, besides all the bugs on pie, they are the ones blocking us. Then there is that stupid apple-esque gestures, not to mention there terrible multitasking!! google has head-up you know what right now. (thank god Nova still works on pie)
Wait until you read about what Q is going to bring. Why in the hell is google going to help carriers by allowing SIM lock? nah, security or not, I've been saying for over two years now, google is not our friend. Sure I get it, revolutionary, and we all use them every day, but they are no longer a "good" company, but just after making money.
As far as Samsung locking down the bootloader, do you not think that the only way they can get our U.S. pile-o-crap carries to carry their phone, they have to? Hey I'm not sure about that, but I'd give it better the 70/30 that's why. Ya, you mentioned the same, and I agree, it's because of carriers.
rusty.gh said:
I get the frustration, I think you may have some misplaced blame however. Right now I'm on Oreo Note 9, (SM-N960U1) root not possible, and wish I could stay on it, screw Pie and google. <-They are the ones you should be pointing at!
Hell, besides all the bugs on pie, they are the ones blocking us. Then there is that stupid apple-esque gestures, not to mention there terrible multitasking!! google has head-up you know what right now. (thank god Nova still works on pie)
Wait until you read about what Q is going to bring. Why in the hell is google going to help carriers by allowing SIM lock? nah, security or not, I've been saying for over two years now, google is not our friend. Sure I get it, revolutionary, and we all use them every day, but they are no longer a "good" company, but just after making money.
As far as Samsung locking down the bootloader, do you not think that the only way they can get our U.S. pile-o-crap carries to carry their phone, they have to? Hey I'm not sure about that, but I'd give it better the 70/30 that's why. Ya, you mentioned the same, and I agree, it's because of carriers.
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Well, good for Samsung , Google and the carriers. This is going to be my last Samsung phone and through a carrier. It's either gonna be cheap mid-range phones or older iphone (like apple is any better lol)
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I have got a n9 thats unrooted for my daily.. just picked up a lgv30 for my audio and rooting fixes.
I might as well just settle in for the long haul until international phones are rootable and working on Verizon.
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Gil Smash said:
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So, I just spoke to the devs of swift installer and they confirmed that it will work on one UI. So, I hope that means substratum will work, too, maybe?
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drbveb88 said:
I have got a n9 thats unrooted for my daily.. just picked up a lgv30 for my audio and rooting fixes.
I might as well just settle in for the long haul until international phones are rootable and working on Verizon.
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Phones are everywhere now and the competition is very hot in the market. Samsung and the carriers can shove their non rootable phones up there @#$#. Imagine having a non rootable Samsung phone and you wanted to keep it for a while, you're literally stuck on one firmware for as long as you have that phone knowing how horrible Samsung updates are.
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K-alz said:
So, I just spoke to the devs of swift installer and they confirmed that it will work on one UI. So, I hope that means substratum will work, too, maybe?
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I'm running it on pie. It works for apps no problem. But system UI, settings, and some galaxy apps are not working right now.
therebel88 said:
I'm running it on pie. It works for apps no problem. But system UI, settings, and some galaxy apps are not working right now.
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I think it's because of the dark mode on Pie. I hope they'll have a work around so we can theme the system with other colors beside black or white.
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