Anyone having trouble turning off "make up" mode on the front-facing camera?
I know there's the slider at the bottom of the screen when taking a front-facing photo, but I have it at zero, and it's still adding QUITE A BIT of "smoothing" or "make up" to the photo. I'm not sure what the official term is. Is there a way to shut it off completely?
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unfortunately it's the noise reduction it seems for the ffc. can't turn it off completely so it's terrible in low light. got that oil painting look, as we used to call it with the g2.
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unfortunately it's the noise reduction it seems for the ffc. can't turn it off completely so it's terrible in low light. got that oil painting look, as we used to call it with the g2.
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Exactly. I remember the default setting being on 3 or something when I first got the phone, and I turned it to 0 and it was normal. But since I took a couple of updates this week, it seems I can't turn it off completely. Just awful.
Can't give you a full run down as to what is going on without seeing the exif information from the photo but there's a few things possibly going on here to keep in mind. (I'm assuming we are not looking at the full image but just a crop?)
First, I'm not sure how they're making the normal/wide thing work for the FFC. I'm guessing that they're just cropping the wide angle sensor data to give the normal view but that's not what the image properties say when viewing images on the phone. They say the same exact image size. I'm thinking this isn't true. I can't believe that they have a lens that actually zooms on a FFC module or there would be one on the back of every cellphone that these companies would be bragging about. So my guess is that the image properties is just writing the settings and not the actual image data. This means that if you are using the full setting for the sensor (5mp supposedly) you are only getting a full 5mp if you're shooting the wide angle. The regular view will be noticeably less.
Which brings me to point #2. Just like on the main camera around back, it isn't defaulting to using the full sensor. Instead, they opt to default to a 16x9 which is only 3.7mp. So if you're shooting the default AND normal mode, you're looking at less than 3.7mp. (Oh, and about that 5mp? It only shows up as 4.9 in the image properties.)
Then yes, there's the noise reduction. Which they seemed to have decided to err on the side of over applying than under applying. But here's the thing. To see this on a full resolution shot, I have to zoom in further than the intended viewing "distance". The problem is that images coming out of cellphones just aren't up to the task of being cropped aggressively. Heck, you really have to get to a much larger sensor before even thinking about that. Some 1" sensors can kind of do OK but I'd say you would want to get to at least a four thirds or dx sized sensor before considering cropping a lot. Even then, you're usually in the territory of swappable lenses which is preferred over cropping. Cropping is always last resort.
Edit to add, as for the question about shutting it off completely..... the beauty thing is most likely off when it hits zero and everything else you see is just noise reduction. The best way to minimize noise reduction is to be shooting at base ISO which means shooting with A LOT of light. Think daylight. Shooting in normal indoor lighting usually isn't enough as we tend to keep our lighting pretty soft, even when you don't think it is. (also for power savings and keep heat down) If you want to make sure the absolute minimum noise reduction is going on, shoot RAW which means shooting the main sensor on the other side. I don't think RAW is available on the FFC? RAW shots will show you everything coming off the sensor in all its "glory". This goes for any camera. Just be warned, for cellphone camera sensors, this will not be pretty.
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How would you able to take good shots on X10?
Why is it blurred or like my pics is taken on an Iphone cam. Too much noise etc and not good. It's like I'm using a VGA or 0.3 cam.
Can you guys advice me a good settings or tips to make the cam better
TIA
I got the same issue, the pic taken by X10 is worse than X1 (8M VS 3M)
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Post some examples.. My phone takes great pics.
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a few mine findings on x10 camera..
when is enough light there is no problem, auto settings is good.
when taking pic indors but with enougt light use sport setting, then pic will not be blured (same for video) coz exposure time is shorter, but if there is not enough light pic will be tooo dark with sport setting, then use defaul setting and try to keep phone steady as you can while focusing and while pressing key and second after that..
i got great results
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Personally, I find the camera fantastic (until you zoom right, right in). It almost seems like they've used a 4mp camera and doubled the res as the pixels seem very blocky close up.
I'll upload when i can!
I never changed the settings or MP nor cam I enabled photo light too on some shots.
Example of a very good light condition is my laptop. you see its disgusting. the light is from bulb that is very good, and yet I get a crappy pics even with image stabilizer on
i've also noticed that image stabiliser make pic even worse, with that option i got less details, washed out colours...
Man those pictures look like NOTHING my X10 makes. You are either the worst photographer or there's something wrong here. Here's a few I made with my X10:
I've had no problems with the camera either.. i've really good quality photos with the X10. the only i have is the ease of access to the flash
Any tips? I'm bad at photography I know that that's why I'm asking for what settings what things do to etc.?
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Any tips? I'm bad at photography I know that that's why I'm asking for what settings what things do to etc.?
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EV -7 when is too much light.
EV -3 in "normal" conditions
Always keep the sun behind you.
Also, depending what you shoot you can change the metering.
Well, my X10i also takes great pictures, and i usually use automatic settings. Here are some samples (I resized image size, just click the thumbnails):
Yeah those things bugs me
The metering too.
What should I set to this center average?
Well, my X10 also takes good pictures, one thing i noticed on your shots is that they're not focused and all blurry, did you wait until the focus was alright ? (when semi pressing the camera button, the focus in the middle of the screen should become green or red if it thinks the focus is not good enough)
Also, for close-up shots you should definitely enable macro mode.
here's an example i just took of a 20ct coin, with low lighting :
(unfortunately i can't give any higher res pic since i can't post links :/)
I had blurry pictures when I first got my x10.. but after setting the camera to "Scene Reognition" under Capturing Mode, it fixed all the problems. Hope that helps
i use touch fokus and now take better pictures
i have the same problem as gr3yh0und
and i dont know what to do ?!!
please someone tell me the ebst setting for camera
My pictures are too soft.
Way too soft.
I will have to give it a try without image stabilization to see if it makes a difference.
Here's a low-light shot from tonight... Went to the Airport park.
It's geotagged correctly on flickr as well.
i was waiting at the vet and decided to snap a picture of my dog
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both the still and viewfinder display show these lines
(a reset to factory settings via the camera app restores it to normal)
is this something anyone else has experienced?
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it's just 1 of many screen names of someone who is upset about something the Mods have done.
does the camera only have the issue with stock app or does it do it with 3rd party apps like Camera 360?
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Yea i'd have to agree download a second Camera Application to see if it happens on a secondary program. That will isolate the difference between a bad camera or bad programing.
you know i didnt look and see if camera360 was doing it
my suspicions lie in the camera app getting wonky (see: using multiple programs and getting a bad driver warning...please restart)
it happens
ill check another app besides stock when it happens again
thanks guys
This is a common issue when taking digital pictures under florescent lights. Its due to the frequency the lights flash at.
It is a very inconsistent problem in most cases. A better way to see if there is really a problem is by taking pics in different settings and lighting conditions.
tintingkc said:
This is a common issue when taking digital pictures under florescent lights. Its due to the frequency the lights flash at.
It is a very inconsistent problem in most cases. A better way to see if there is really a problem is by taking pics in different settings and lighting conditions.
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Bingo, this is the answer.
tintingkc said:
This is a common issue when taking digital pictures under florescent lights. Its due to the frequency the lights flash at.
It is a very inconsistent problem in most cases. A better way to see if there is really a problem is by taking pics in different settings and lighting conditions.
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nailed it
the 2x it has happened has been in similar lighting situations
This happens to me with my Epic when I set it to lock at 800 ISO
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This happens to me with my Epic when I set it to lock at 800 ISO
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At that point your bringing a lot of noise(grain) in so the issue is amplified.
Many think mega pixels make a good camera. This can be no further from the truth. The sensor and processing is what really makes the difference provided there are good optics(lens). Something you will not see on a phone. Nokia is still the only one that has done well here.
You are going to get noise and banding with cell phone pics unless the lighting is optimal. Its a give and take that has to be dealt with. Phones have terrible lenses and cheap sensors. The two key functions to a quality photo. The only reason they look as good as they do is processing done in the built in software.
The cameras on the phones these days are doing well but will never replace your point and shoot or DSLR.
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At that point your bringing a lot of noise(grain) in so the issue is amplified.
Many think mega pixels make a good camera. This can be no further from the truth. The sensor and processing is what really makes the difference provided there are good optics(lens). Something you will not see on a phone. Nokia is still the only one that has done well here.
You are going to get noise and banding with cell phone pics unless the lighting is optimal. Its a give and take that has to be dealt with. Phones have terrible lenses and cheap sensors. The two key functions to a quality photo. The only reason they look as good as they do is processing done in the built in software.
The cameras on the phones these days are doing well but will never replace your point and shoot or DSLR.
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Yeah nokia has some amazing cameras on their phones think of if nokia made a android... that would be amazing xD i love their build quality and phones just.. symbian ew
tell me about it
http://thehandheldblog.com/2010/10/04/shootout-nokia-n8-v-canon-550d-dslr/
I got my note and it is really great but the camera is very bad I think it is a matter of configuration, because the Colours are very poor in the photos and the contrast very low
I've got Galaxy Note on 11 Nov 2011, I noticed that when switching on Camera, targeting any white wall, I notice Columns / Bars of shadows are moving like curtain or Smoke from left to right of the screen specially in a low light places, also a pink spot in the middle of the screen.
Is this normal? if not, What I have to do?
I have Galaxy Note GT-N7000 - 2.3.6 JPKK2
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I got my note and it is really great but the camera is very bad I think it is a matter of configuration, because the Colours are very poor in the photos and the contrast very low
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Ahem, I would return that unit, take a look at this picture taken yesterday, all default values on camera, untouched, uploaded directly from phone.
Hello,
First of all, be sure that you are using the 8MP / 3264x2448 resolution.
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Second, clean the camera, Maybe there is a fingerprint or dust on it.
And lets see how it goes with you =)
off topic, but I only noticed today (after 2 weeks of ownership) that there is a transparent plastic film over the lens which I never spotted when I unboxed it. I've taken quite a few photos and I had not noticed any quality issues - in fact I was very pleased with the crisp clear images it was producing.
I'm actually considering leaving the film in place for now as it protects the lens (which is otherwise pretty exposed). I figure that until I start to notice image problems due to the film getting roughed up, it's doing no real harm I guess I should really try the cam with the film removed to see what photos are *meant* to look like before I decide on that course of action though!
The camera works best with abundant light. The outdoor picture posted earlier in this thread looks great for a cellphone camera. However my indoor pic with low light and no flash is grainy and lacks contrast.
Pic here: imgur . com/3w2wi
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The camera works best with abundant light. The outdoor picture posted earlier in this thread looks great for a cellphone camera. However my indoor pic with low light and no flash is grainy and lacks contrast.
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You can not expect good non-grainy pictures in low-light from any camera that it's smaller than a SLR. It's a fundamental law of nature (quantum variations and Poisson distribution of photons). You need a big sensor and big lens to capture more light, something you are not going to get on a phone.
But the camera is good for daylight and captures colors very well (oversaturated, but you can lower that and get a more natural look).
Just to add some numbers, check this image from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SensorSizes.svg
Most superzoom / cheap cameras have 6 mm wide sensors. The biggest you're going to find on a compact (retractile lens) camera is 8 mm. Big cameras use APS-C (23 mm wide).
A cellullar phone has 1 mm-wide sensor. Galaxy Note camera has 8 mpixels, but each pixel is hundreds of times smaller than the ones on a SLR. So much more noise. This can NOT be solved in any way.
vcespon said:
This can NOT be solved in any way.
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How did the nokia n8 solve it?
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How did the nokia n8 solve it?
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By using a 1/1.83" sensor; almost the same size as the sensor found in well-regarded compact cameras like the Panasonic LX3/5, the Olympus XZ-1, the Canon G12, S90, S95, and S100.
In putting together the camera locked/unlocked comparison, I found that the locked Sony did a good job of pulling out details in low light environments, while pictures under normal lighting conditions were (mostly) unaffected.
This morning, before heading out for work, I stumbled across an app in the Play Store called Night Camera and after a quick test, found that it actually does a fairly comparable job with the Sony "high and mighty", "I'm gonna delete your DRM keys if you try to steal it" algorithms.
Here are the comparison shots. First one taken with the Sony camera on a locked bl phone, and the second taken with Night Camera on a phone that has been BL unlocked.
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it does remove the noise quite well but look at the sharpness and detail of the bench and towel
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it does remove the noise quite well but look at the sharpness and detail of the bench and towel
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We all know that sony software with their own algorithms is better than this "Night Camera", but the point, imho, is that your hardware will be the same with the same capabilities with or without drm.
It's only a software related problem.
I think I'm going to unlock my bootloader now, how often happens to you guys to take a photo completely in the dark? In other condition seems there are no big differences, but I'm not a photographer myself.
On the other hand I had an s4 before the z3c, always been on aosp rom, and I've never missed any of the samsung camera capabilities, even knowing they were degraded using google camera.
yes, that is a nice confirmation. Though I've always been convinced that this is just a software problem and sony does not actually degrade the hardware.
Keep in mind that the same photo using an iPhone 5s results in a nearly black picture!
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We all know that sony software with their own algorithms is better than this "Night Camera", but the point, imho, is that your hardware will be the same with the same capabilities with or without drm.
It's only a software related problem.
I think I'm going to unlock my bootloader now, how often happens to you guys to take a photo completely in the dark? In other condition seems there are no big differences, but I'm not a photographer myself.
On the other hand I had an s4 before the z3c, always been on aosp rom, and I've never missed any of the samsung camera capabilities, even knowing they were degraded using google camera.
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OP, what happens if you use the Sony app and manually set ISO to 12800?
Fruktsallad said:
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OP, what happens if you use the Sony app and manually set ISO to 12800?
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You can't manually set the ISO to 12800. Can only be done in Auto mode.
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You can't manually set the ISO to 12800. Can only be done in Auto mode.
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Oh, that's true. My bad. Some third party apps allow some degree of ISO control, though.
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You can't manually set the ISO to 12800. Can only be done in Auto mode.
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Actually, while there's no 12800 ISO setting, there is a SCENE for High ISO in manual mode.
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Actually, while there's no 12800 ISO setting, there is a SCENE for High ISO in manual mode.
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Yup, but I'm shooting with the High ISO mode, it's only taking pics at 3200 ISO.
nope, not even close.
If only Sony's camera software was as competent in other lighting situations as it was in low light conditions, they would have the best camera experience on the market, hands down.
Hi guys!
Been loving my S8 so far, but I don't know if I am missing something or it's just the camera that works like this, but, photos taken outside come out bright and no problems.
But whenever I try to take photos of my 8 month ols son, 6 out of 10 times, I end up with a blurry shot. Am I missing some setting? Anyone else having the same problem?
I noticed a small milisecond kinda delay after taking the shot sometimes, doesn't matter if I have internal storage selected or SD card as save directory.
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Tried sports mode and while there's no delay when taking the shot, I get kinda the same results.
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He is clearly moving and in low light camera needs to have lens open longer to expose picture properly. To fix it you need to switch into PRO mode and then you have 3 options which do pretty much the same thing different ways:
1. add more or stronger lights into the room, 2. manually set ISO as high as you can tolerate noise (probably need to do few test shots) 3. set shutter speed at at least 1/100 sec or shorter depending on speed of movement, here you risk under exposure, high ISO noise. Also you can combine 1 and 2 or 3.
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He is clearly moving and in low light camera needs to have lens open longer to expose picture properly. To fix it you need to switch into PRO mode and then you have 3 options which do pretty much the same thing different ways:
1. add more or stronger lights into the room, 2. manually set ISO as high as you can tolerate noise (probably need to do few test shots) 3. set shutter speed at at least 1/100 sec or shorter depending on speed of movement, here you risk under exposure, high ISO noise. Also you can combine 1 and 2 or 3.
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Thanks for the advice. Used to get better results in the same conditions with the Nexus 6P that's why I found this strange.
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Either your kid is growing up and moving faster or Nexus defaulted to higher ISO settings in similar conditions. At 1.7 the lens on S8 is most likely brighter than 6P, but the ISO setting is double edged sword: higher the ISO less blur in fast moving object, but more noise, which could ruin the picture. Another way to do it is to time it just when the movement is smallest and if your timing is off, then set the cam into burst mode, you'll have whole bunch of pictures to choose from. S8 has one of the best, most capable cameras on any phone.
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Either your kid is growing up and moving faster or Nexus defaulted to higher ISO settings in similar conditions. At 1.7 the lens on S8 is most likely brighter than 6P, but the ISO setting is double edged sword: higher the ISO less blur in fast moving object, but more noise, which could ruin the picture. Another way to do it is to time it just when the movement is smallest and if your timing is off, then set the cam into burst mode, you'll have whole bunch of pictures to choose from. S8 has one of the best, most capable cameras on any phone.
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Haha maybe he is quite fast now
I thought maybe it was a setting I was missing or a defective camera. Thanks again!!
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