Verizon Compatibility - ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers

I just purchased the ZTE Axon 7
I'm trying to find a pinned post on the steps I need to take to have this new cell be Verizon compatible.
Please can someone direct me to where there may be previous discussions on this as I can't find it.
We've been on virgin mobile for a long time so we don't have a GSM SIM so I just need to know what kind of phone I need to get with the nano (?) SIM and the next steps to get Verizon on the new phones.
Thanks!

I'm pretty sure all you need is a valid Verizon nano-SIM.
This may help too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/help/verizon-compatibility-t3420991

scoochy said:
I just purchased the ZTE Axon 7
I'm trying to find a pinned post on the steps I need to take to have this new cell be Verizon compatible.
Please can someone direct me to where there may be previous discussions on this as I can't find it.
We've been on virgin mobile for a long time so we don't have a GSM SIM so I just need to know what kind of phone I need to get with the nano (?) SIM and the next steps to get Verizon on the new phones.
Thanks!
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You'll need to purchase the A2017U model, which is the standard USA-unlocked model. There is not a specific Verizon variant of the Axon 7.
The Axon 7 is sort of Verizon compatible, but there are issues. Also, unless you already have an active Verizon SIM available to you, you CANNOT activate an Axon 7 on Verizon - Verizon will not activate SIMs with this device. You'll have to already have an active Verizon SIM to use the Axon 7.
So, that said...here's a summary of the issues. For one, the phone will often show [falsely] that it's roaming, so you'll have to turn data roaming on. Also, when data service is on eHRPD or EvDO 3G or 1X, the carrier will be '123456' or '31000' or '002127.' Finally, a GSM SIM is, in my opinion, *essential* to properly set up the radio on initial activation. GSM SIMs can be purchased from many places including Target/Wal-Mart/grocery stores, etc...and a non-active GSM SIM will work fine. But...in my experience, performing *initial* set up of your Axon 7 with a Verizon SIM will cause radio problems later, most commonly a lack of LTE connectivity and sometimes additional problems with calls and texts. So it's very wise to obtain a GSM SIM (a friend's or, again, an inactive one will do fine) with which you should perform initial setup. After initial set-up with the GSM SIM and a few reboots, the Verizon SIM can be inserted.
Anyway, I've had my Axon 7 on Verizon for about three months and it's worked ok...but here are the steps I'd suggest if you can obtain both a GSM SIM and an already active Verizon SIM:
1) Deactivate "Advanced Calling" in your Verizon account, if it's active. Also, turn off the Advanced Calling setting in your previous Verizon device as appropriate and make a call on your old phone over 1X to make sure VoLTE is fully disabled on your account.
2) Acquire a GSM SIM card (i.e., AT&T, T-Mobile, or any of their respective MVNOs). This SIM card does *not* need to be active - a friend's will do fine as well.
3) Perform initial setup of the Axon 7 with the GSM SIM card inserted.
4) Reboot the phone once after setup is complete. Wait a few minutes.
5) Turn off phone, and insert your active Verizon SIM card.
6) Reboot the phone.
7) Enable the "Data roaming" setting in the Dual SIM settings/mobile networks. This is necessary due to a problem in ZTE's firmware on this device.
Finally, just as a note - VoLTE and WiFi Calling on Verizon do not work on the Axon 7 at present. Calls must be made over CDMA 1X...so if you're in a Verizon LTE-only area you won't have calls and you might not have texts either.
Good luck!

flyer_andy said:
You'll need to purchase the A2017U model, which is the standard USA-unlocked model. There is not a specific Verizon variant of the Axon 7.
The Axon 7 is sort of Verizon compatible, but there are issues. Also, unless you already have an active Verizon SIM available to you, you CANNOT activate an Axon 7 on Verizon - Verizon will not activate SIMs with this device. You'll have to already have an active Verizon SIM to use the Axon 7.
So, that said...here's a summary of the issues. For one, the phone will often show [falsely] that it's roaming, so you'll have to turn data roaming on. Also, when data service is on eHRPD or EvDO 3G or 1X, the carrier will be '123456' or '31000' or '002127.' Finally, a GSM SIM is, in my opinion, *essential* to properly set up the radio on initial activation. GSM SIMs can be purchased from many places including Target/Wal-Mart/grocery stores, etc...and a non-active GSM SIM will work fine. But...in my experience, performing *initial* set up of your Axon 7 with a Verizon SIM will cause radio problems later, most commonly a lack of LTE connectivity and sometimes additional problems with calls and texts. So it's very wise to obtain a GSM SIM (a friend's or, again, an inactive one will do fine) with which you should perform initial setup. After initial set-up with the GSM SIM and a few reboots, the Verizon SIM can be inserted.
Anyway, I've had my Axon 7 on Verizon for about three months and it's worked ok...but here are the steps I'd suggest if you can obtain both a GSM SIM and an already active Verizon SIM:
1) Deactivate "Advanced Calling" in your Verizon account, if it's active. Also, turn off the Advanced Calling setting in your previous Verizon device as appropriate and make a call on your old phone over 1X to make sure VoLTE is fully disabled on your account.
2) Acquire a GSM SIM card (i.e., AT&T, T-Mobile, or any of their respective MVNOs). This SIM card does *not* need to be active - a friend's will do fine as well.
3) Perform initial setup of the Axon 7 with the GSM SIM card inserted.
4) Reboot the phone once after setup is complete. Wait a few minutes.
5) Turn off phone, and insert your active Verizon SIM card.
6) Reboot the phone.
7) Enable the "Data roaming" setting in the Dual SIM settings/mobile networks. This is necessary due to a problem in ZTE's firmware on this device.
Finally, just as a note - VoLTE and WiFi Calling on Verizon do not work on the Axon 7 at present. Calls must be made over CDMA 1X...so if you're in a Verizon LTE-only area you won't have calls and you might not have texts either.
Good luck!
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Thanks so much for taking the time to write all the steps! You said.I had to get the A2017U model is there a reason for this? I just noticed the model I just purchased is the A7G330 and A7G331 will the above steps work on those phones?
Thanks again!

scoochy said:
Thanks so much for taking the time to write all the steps! You said.I had to get the A2017U model is there a reason for this? I just noticed the model I just purchased is the A7G330 and A7G331 will the above steps work on those phones?
Thanks again!
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The A7G331 will be the correct model, yes...not sure about the A7G330 - did you mean the A7G333? These model numbers just differentiate between colors...with the A7G331 being the grey one and the A7G333 the gold one. The A2017U is both of these...these model numbers just differentiate color.

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The A7G331 will be the correct model, yes...not sure about the A7G330 - did you mean the A7G333? These model numbers just differentiate between colors...with the A7G331 being the grey one and the A7G333 the gold one. The A2017U is both of these...these model numbers just differentiate color.
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oh shucks....I'm so embarrassed! It's just the difference in colour. oh boy I'm such a noob!
Thanks - and yes A7G333

Pre Paid Verizon Phone with SIM?
Can someone please tell me what kind of phones have a SIM card for verizon? Moto E2 can't seem to find any in stock. Am seeing a lot of phones but no SIM.
Thanks

scoochy said:
Can someone please tell me what kind of phones have a SIM card for verizon? Moto E2 can't seem to find any in stock. Am seeing a lot of phones but no SIM.
Thanks
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I am a little ignorant on this subject, but I was always under the impression that one could simply purchase a SIM/nano-SIM for around $29?
EDIT: Yikes, OK $45... but here is a link: https://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/4g-sim-activation-kit/

emtownsend said:
I am a little ignorant on this subject, but I was always under the impression that one could simply purchase a SIM/nano-SIM for around $29?
EDIT: Yikes, OK $45... but here is a link: https://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/4g-sim-activation-kit/
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Yeah, I know I can buy verizon prepaid SIM thing is....can't activate.it.in my new Axon 7 so need a Verizon phone to activate and then switch SIM over to Axon.
Was just looking for a cheap one with SIM already installed.

Ah gotcha, sorry.
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scoochy said:
Can someone please tell me what kind of phones have a SIM card for verizon? Moto E2 can't seem to find any in stock. Am seeing a lot of phones but no SIM.
Thanks
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Yeah this is always a big pain for sure...you'll need a nano-SIM Verizon branded phone (though you can cut down the SIM to nano size for the Axon 7 if you need to if you can't find a Verizon nano-SIM one) *or* a [unlocked as necessary] Nexus 6, Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X, Google Pixel, Moto X Pure Edition 2015, or [unlocked or Verizon] iPhone 6/6 Plus/6S/6S Plus (and maybe a few others?)
Swappa.com is a really good place to get cheap, used Verizon phones with activate-able ESNs/IMEIs: https://swappa.com/buy/devices/verizon
Often you can buy a Verizon prepaid phone+SIM at WalMart for fairly cheap too but there are some limitations *if* you're planning on going postpaid (I think it has to be paid for a month on Prepaid before it can be used on postpaid or something)...but I believe if you're planning on activating a prepaid account you can get like an HTC Desire 526 from WalMart maybe and then activate on Verizon PrePaid and pay your first month and then move the SIM card into your Axon 7 right away...and then perhaps [hopefully] activate any the other SIMs with the same phone if you're wanting to do multiple ones. In this video, Total Tech seems to be able to pull the SIM out and I presume you could then just add it to a different phone, though the Verizon SIM is adhered somewhat to the tray of the 526 it appears: https://youtu.be/PC1y4b0zCHQ
Good luck!!!

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Yeah this is always a big pain for sure...you'll need a nano-SIM Verizon branded phone (though you can cut down the SIM to nano size for the Axon 7 if you need to if you can't find a Verizon nano-SIM one) *or* a [unlocked as necessary] Nexus 6, Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X, Google Pixel, Moto X Pure Edition 2015, or [unlocked or Verizon] iPhone 6/6 Plus/6S/6S Plus (and maybe a few others?)
Swappa.com is a really good place to get cheap, used Verizon phones with activate-able ESNs/IMEIs: https://swappa.com/buy/devices/verizon
Often you can buy a Verizon prepaid phone+SIM at WalMart for fairly cheap too but there are some limitations *if* you're planning on going postpaid (I think it has to be paid for a month on Prepaid before it can be used on postpaid or something)...but I believe if you're planning on activating a prepaid account you can get like an HTC Desire 526 from WalMart maybe and then activate on Verizon PrePaid and pay your first month and then move the SIM card into your Axon 7 right away...and then perhaps [hopefully] activate any the other SIMs with the same phone if you're wanting to do multiple ones. In this video, Total Tech seems to be able to pull the SIM out and I presume you could then just add it to a different phone, though the Verizon SIM is adhered somewhat to the tray of the 526 it appears: https://youtu.be/PC1y4b0zCHQ
Good luck!!!
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Ah that's brilliant thanks Andy!

flyer_andy said:
Often you can buy a Verizon prepaid phone+SIM at WalMart for fairly cheap too but there are some limitations *if* you're planning on going postpaid (I think it has to be paid for a month on Prepaid before it can be used on postpaid or something)...but I believe if you're planning on activating a prepaid account you can get like an HTC Desire 526 from WalMart maybe and then activate on Verizon PrePaid and pay your first month and then move the SIM card into your Axon 7 right away...and then perhaps [hopefully] activate any the other SIMs with the same phone if you're wanting to do multiple ones. In this video, Total Tech seems to be able to pull the SIM out and I presume you could then just add it to a different phone, though the Verizon SIM is adhered somewhat to the tray of the 526 it appears: https://youtu.be/PC1y4b0zCHQ
Good luck!!!
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So I found a cheap Verizon prepaid phone at Walmart with nano SIM yeah! So going to pick up as Axon 7 came today so will set up. Now for the GSM SIM does that have to be nano or Micro SIM or if it doesn't matter. . .
I read somewhere on the forums that there are two slots - SIM 1 for CDMA, SIM2 GSM? I can't quite remember if that's the right way around.
Anyway...off I go! Hope this works the phone looks really nice & I haven't even switched it on yet.

Skingy1 said:
So I found a cheap Verizon prepaid phone at Walmart with nano SIM yeah! So going to pick up as Axon 7 came today so will set up. Now for the GSM SIM does that have to be nano or Micro SIM or if it doesn't matter. . .
I read somewhere on the forums that there are two slots - SIM 1 for CDMA, SIM2 GSM? I can't quite remember if that's the right way around.
Anyway...off I go! Hope this works the phone looks really nice & I haven't even switched it on yet.
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It should be a nano-SIM in both slots. And when you activate, the GSM SIM should be used in slot 1 (the Verizon slot). Then you can put the Verizon SIM in after a few reboots. For dual-SIM purposes only, slot 1 must be CDMA and slot 2 is GSM...but for single SIM operation slot 1 can be either one.

flyer_andy said:
Yeah this is always a big pain for sure...you'll need a nano-SIM Verizon branded phone (though you can cut down the SIM to nano size for the Axon 7 if you need to if you can't find a Verizon nano-SIM one) *or* a [unlocked as necessary] Nexus 6, Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X, Google Pixel, Moto X Pure Edition 2015, or [unlocked or Verizon] iPhone 6/6 Plus/6S/6S Plus (and maybe a few others?)
Swappa.com is a really good place to get cheap, used Verizon phones with activate-able ESNs/IMEIs: https://swappa.com/buy/devices/verizon
Often you can buy a Verizon prepaid phone+SIM at WalMart for fairly cheap too but there are some limitations *if* you're planning on going postpaid (I think it has to be paid for a month on Prepaid before it can be used on postpaid or something)...but I believe if you're planning on activating a prepaid account you can get like an HTC Desire 526 from WalMart maybe and then activate on Verizon PrePaid and pay your first month and then move the SIM card into your Axon 7 right away...and then perhaps [hopefully] activate any the other SIMs with the same phone if you're wanting to do multiple ones. In this video, Total Tech seems to be able to pull the SIM out and I presume you could then just add it to a different phone, though the Verizon SIM is adhered somewhat to the tray of the 526 it appears: https://youtu.be/PC1y4b0zCHQ
Good luck!!!
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flyer_andy said:
It should be a nano-SIM in both slots. And when you activate, the GSM SIM should be used in slot 1 (the Verizon slot). Then you can put the Verizon SIM in after a few reboots. For dual-SIM purposes only, slot 1 must be CDMA and slot 2 is GSM...but for single SIM operation slot 1 can be either one.
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Thanks again Andy. So helpful! Will let you know how it goes.

Thanks Andy
Here is my screenshot. Im assuming when it says "Verizon wireless" at the top left that's showing 4G as well?
I don't see the usual LTE symbol...

So when I switch off Wi-Fi I see LTE
Sorry if this has been mentioned hundreds of times before.... But I'm assuming you can't have Wi-Fi and LTE on at the same time?
My other phone is on Wi-Fi mostly and where there's no Wi-Fi automatically goes on the data plan. Is there a set up for this?
Thanks again!

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So when I switch off Wi-Fi I see LTE
Sorry if this has been mentioned hundreds of times before.... But I'm assuming you can't have Wi-Fi and LTE on at the same time?
My other phone is on Wi-Fi mostly and where there's no Wi-Fi automatically goes on the data plan. Is there a set up for this?
Thanks again!
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Mine does that by itself. As soon as i leave my house it switches to LTE

scoochy said:
So when I switch off Wi-Fi I see LTE
Sorry if this has been mentioned hundreds of times before.... But I'm assuming you can't have Wi-Fi and LTE on at the same time?
My other phone is on Wi-Fi mostly and where there's no Wi-Fi automatically goes on the data plan. Is there a set up for this?
Thanks again!
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There actually is a way to run LTE and WiFi concurrently though it typically isn't necessary for most users as the phone will manage this on its own (as tolymatev said above)...but if you want to do it it's pretty easy...here are the steps:
1) Open Settings/"All Settings" tab
2) Scroll down to "About Phone"
3) Scroll down to "Build number"
4) Tap "Build number" repeatedly until the phone tells you "Congratulations, you're a developer!!!" or something like that
5) Hit back button
6) Tap the [newly appeared] "Developer options"
7) Scroll down and select "Cellular data always active"
This mode will keep the LTE connected (though data should still flow over wifi as long as wifi is connected) so that the phone will quickly switch between wifi and cellular...some people like this option though it does allegedly consume just a tad bit more battery than usual.
Glad you got the phone working!!!

flyer_andy said:
There actually is a way to run LTE and WiFi concurrently though it typically isn't necessary for most users...but if you want to do it it's pretty easy...here are the steps:
1) Open Settings/"All Settings" tab
2) Scroll down to "About Phone"
3) Scroll down to "Build number"
4) Tap "Build number" repeatedly until the phone tells you "Congratulations, you're a developer!!!" or something like that
5) Hit back button
6) Tap the [newly appeared] "Developer options"
7) Scroll down and select "Cellular data always active"
This mode will keep the LTE connected (though data should still flow over wifi as long as wifi is connected) so that the phone will quickly switch between wifi and cellular...some people like this option though it does allegedly consume just a tad bit more battery than usual.
Glad you got the phone working!!!
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Hey that's really great to know!! Yes just getting hubbys phone set up now...we love the phones!
Thank so much for all the help really couldn't have done this without help.

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Verizon compatibility broken after update?

Hey guys, I just saw a YouTube video that was posted yesterday where the guy shows that after the update he no longer could connect with his Verizon SIM card in the axon 7. Has anybody else run into this? Mine won't be here until Monday but if this is true I'm going to be sorely disappointed. Thanks for your input.
I am on verizon with no additional problems after the update. I am still always roaming, and my signal is the same (more bars but still the same reception). LTE, MMS, SMS, Cdma all work the same.
I'm really glad to hear that. I'm not so sure the guy knew what he was doing either... Lol :silly:
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I am on verizon with no additional problems after the update. I am still always roaming, and my signal is the same (more bars but still the same reception). LTE, MMS, SMS, Cdma all work the same.
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Quick question for you bud. I currently have the Moto Z-Force, but I want an unlocked phone that I can root and mess around with and unfortunately this phone doesn't have that capability. Would you say this is a great alternative in terms of functionality and specs? Tia
CaptainElwood said:
I am on verizon with no additional problems after the update. I am still always roaming, and my signal is the same (more bars but still the same reception). LTE, MMS, SMS, Cdma all work the same.
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I second this. No issues on Verizon unlimited plan after update. Always showing roaming also. Mms, sms, calls work as suppose to. All out of the box settings.
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I second this. No issues on Verizon unlimited plan after update. Always showing roaming also. Mms, sms, calls work as suppose to. All out of the box settings.
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I can third it lol no issues here. Mine actually has better signal after update on verizon and sms/mms everything works still no issues anywhere
My VZW situation. Just an FYI post AND how to fix it.
I'm on Verizon, have had my Axon 7 for over a month now. No issues other than not having VoLTE, and the occasional software farts (Using Nova Launcher now). When I initially set-up my phone, I imported all previous apps directly from the Play Store. I should have known not to install the VZW apps that were previously installed on my HTC One M8 (purchased directly from VZW), but in my excitement for the new phone, it skipped my mind. Anyhow, no issues through 9/19. "Verizon" displayed as my carrier, and full access to the LTE network.
Fast forward to 9/20 (post B27 update) when one of the VZW updated automatically (I don't recall which of the 2 apps I had installed), and BAMM, "123456" displayed as my carrier and no more access to the LTE network (3G only). Later that evening, my VZW account showed my number with an "unauthorized, non-VZW device", whereas, before the VZW app update it showed my HTC one M8. I removed the SIM and shut down the phone, re-installed the SIM and re-booted....nada. Tried what seemed to be every permutation of replacing the SIM card, played around with APN settings...no dice.
My feeling is they booted me off 4G LTE once the app recognized I was using an unauthorized, non-VZW device. The steps below solved the issue (Provided by "vzwcdma" via the ZTE Community Forum).
"As for losing LTE connectivity, I've had a similar problem before, both on the A7 and other devices. On other devices, like Motorola devices, I could just boot into the bootloader and clear the modem state partitions via fastboot, but ZTE seems to have disabled that function in the A7's bootloader. So, for the A7, I had to mess around a bit with the modem mode. Download "Network" or "4G LTE Switch" from the Play Store. Open it and scroll down to "Set preferred network type", where it should say "LTE/GSM/CDMA auto (PRL)". There isn't really a set guide for what you have to do, but try switching into LTE-only mode, try hitting "Turn off radio" and "Turn on radio" (not Airplane Mode), maybe try "LTE/CDMA audo (PRL)", maybe turn off radio, switch to LTE-only mode, turn on radio, etc. At some point (I'm not sure what) the phone will reset its modem state, and should re-connect to Verizon LTE (and when it does, switch the network type back to LTE/GSM/CDMA auto PRL.
My Verizon account also shows "unauthorized, non-VZW device". Shouldn't affect anything. I've been using an unauthorized/non-VZW device prior to the A7 with no issues as well."
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My VZW situation. Just an FYI post AND how to fix it.
I'm on Verizon, have had my Axon 7 for over a month now. No issues other than not having VoLTE, and the occasional software farts (Using Nova Launcher now). When I initially set-up my phone, I imported all previous apps directly from the Play Store. I should have known not to install the VZW apps that were previously installed on my HTC One M8 (purchased directly from VZW), but in my excitement for the new phone, it skipped my mind. Anyhow, no issues through 9/19. "Verizon" displayed as my carrier, and full access to the LTE network.
Fast forward to 9/20 (post B27 update) when one of the VZW updated automatically (I don't recall which of the 2 apps I had installed), and BAMM, "123456" displayed as my carrier and no more access to the LTE network (3G only). Later that evening, my VZW account showed my number with an "unauthorized, non-VZW device", whereas, before the VZW app update it showed my HTC one M8. I removed the SIM and shut down the phone, re-installed the SIM and re-booted....nada. Tried what seemed to be every permutation of replacing the SIM card, played around with APN settings...no dice.
My feeling is they booted me off 4G LTE once the app recognized I was using an unauthorized, non-VZW device. The steps below solved the issue (Provided by "vzwcdma" via the ZTE Community Forum).
"As for losing LTE connectivity, I've had a similar problem before, both on the A7 and other devices. On other devices, like Motorola devices, I could just boot into the bootloader and clear the modem state partitions via fastboot, but ZTE seems to have disabled that function in the A7's bootloader. So, for the A7, I had to mess around a bit with the modem mode. Download "Network" or "4G LTE Switch" from the Play Store. Open it and scroll down to "Set preferred network type", where it should say "LTE/GSM/CDMA auto (PRL)". There isn't really a set guide for what you have to do, but try switching into LTE-only mode, try hitting "Turn off radio" and "Turn on radio" (not Airplane Mode), maybe try "LTE/CDMA audo (PRL)", maybe turn off radio, switch to LTE-only mode, turn on radio, etc. At some point (I'm not sure what) the phone will reset its modem state, and should re-connect to Verizon LTE (and when it does, switch the network type back to LTE/GSM/CDMA auto PRL.
My Verizon account also shows "unauthorized, non-VZW device". Shouldn't affect anything. I've been using an unauthorized/non-VZW device prior to the A7 with no issues as well."
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Good to know! I've had so many phones and this hardware looks so awesome for the price, but of course vzw isn't gonna play nice with it without some work. Looking forward to getting mine
Verizon still working fine for me.
After the b27 update I saw improved signal strength. I'm on page plus mvno. After driving in a fringe reception area, I lost lte,and I showed as roaming. It seemed to be using boost Mobile from what the phones network menus displayed. Axon doesn't have a mobile network setting for 'system b', only auto & home only. Tried both, rebooting each time, no fix. I ended up resetting phone, fixed it all. I then switched mobile network to home only, and hoping that it's done.
PS-after b27 I had to re-enable a couple settings, pinch for screen shot, etc.
Edit: it's now been several weeks with it set to home network only. I daily drive in fringe reception areas and have better signal strength than ever, with any phone/carrier combo. All is great, no more issues. Great phone!
For reference, I'm on page plus mvno, dropped in my activated sim from my old phone into the right-side sim slot for CDMA services. Then set to home only. Done.
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Just wanted to see if anyone else had inputs of post update Verizon service, good and bad... hasn't been a ton of chatter in the last week. I have a phone on its way from the egg, trying to decide if it's worth starting a new sim card with Verizon and dealing with that work around... is getting the number off a display and ordering online still the easiest way to get activated?
Works great on VZW still. Love the phone.
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Just wanted to see if anyone else had inputs of post update Verizon service, good and bad... hasn't been a ton of chatter in the last week. I have a phone on its way from the egg, trying to decide if it's worth starting a new sim card with Verizon and dealing with that work around... is getting the number off a display and ordering online still the easiest way to get activated?
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I'd say that the Axon works just as well on Verizon as it did prior to the update, but with potentially better signal strength though I didn't really have a big issue with that prior to the update so I'm not sure (the T-Mobile SIM does seem to do a lot better post-update...but Verizon has always worked well).
I really doubt you'll have any substantive trouble with VZW on this device, especially if you're willing and able to mess a bit with some of the more advanced settings just in case a problem does arise. Here are the oddities, and I'm trying to list *all* of them!
1. No VoLTE or (I presume) HD calling
2. Voicemail appears to have to be accessed by dialing *86 as opposed to long-pressing the '1' key
3. Roaming icon is present intermittently
4. Data roaming *must* be enabled to ensure consistent and reliable data service
5. Verizon's website won't recognize the device at all in the Account Overview pages (mine still shows the last "approved" device I had with my VZW SIM - an iPhone 6S)
6. MMS *may* require a hack to get the proper APN, though I've had no trouble with this (I'm prepaid though); the hack requires a GSM SIM, so beware of this
7. 1X reception *seems* a tad weak in terms of dBm but functionally it almost seems better than my other Verizon phones (weird!)
8. Carrier label will be either '123456,' '002127' (EvDO only), or (I think?) '31000' when not using LTE (i.e., 1X or 3G). When on LTE the phone should show "Verizon Wireless" as normal
9. A SIM/modem reset may be necessary once in a great while it seems...so it's good to understand how to navigate to the "Phone Information" screen to toggle radio settings...also, I've found just SIM-cycling with a GSM SIM will often fix any connectivity problems as well...and sometimes just rebooting the phone with no SIM at all can help too (or a combo of all the above!)
If you can tolerate the above issues then the phone is great. I really enjoy it. I've found the Verizon side of things to be pretty reliable on the Axon 7, even with my endless tinkering with radio modes and other stuff, which has seemed to get me into (recoverable) trouble a few times.
Most importantly - the endless chatter on various forums that Verizon "blocks" the Axon 7 and other non-approved devices is total bunk. In every case where I've run into an issue it can be resolved on my side - Verizon is doing nothing whatsoever to inhibit the use of the Axon 7 on its network as far as I can tell (notwithstanding activation hurdles, admittedly)...many of the people making such claims seem to be speaking from a standpoint of total ignorance and it's kind of getting annoying, to be honest...it seems like the minute someone has an issue with the Axon 7, some ignoramus gets on the relevant forums/comments and claims that Verizon is "blocking" the device. Total BS IMO.
Good luck! As far as activation is concerned...I'd say it might be best to just go to Wal-Mart and buy a cheap prepaid phone or something (looks like the HTC Desire 526 has a nano-SIM and is only $37.49 on their website)...or maybe a cheap nano-SIM'd Verizon phone off of Swappa or eBay? That's probably what I'd do...But I know neither of those solutions are particularly helpful...VZW definitely makes it a bit of a pain.
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I'd say that the Axon works just as well on Verizon as it did prior to the update, but with potentially better signal strength though I didn't really have a big issue with that prior to the update so I'm not sure (the T-Mobile SIM does seem to do a lot better post-update...but Verizon has always worked well).
I really doubt you'll have any substantive trouble with VZW on this device, especially if you're willing and able to mess a bit with some of the more advanced settings just in case a problem does arise. Here are the oddities, and I'm trying to list *all* of them!
1. No VoLTE or (I presume) HD calling
2. Voicemail appears to have to be accessed by dialing *86 as opposed to long-pressing the '1' key
3. Roaming icon is present intermittently
4. Data roaming *must* be enabled to ensure consistent and reliable data service
5. Verizon's website won't recognize the device at all in the Account Overview pages (mine still shows the last "approved" device I had with my VZW SIM - an iPhone 6S)
6. MMS *may* require a hack to get the proper APN, though I've had no trouble with this (I'm prepaid though); the hack requires a GSM SIM, so beware of this
7. 1X reception *seems* a tad weak in terms of dBm but functionally it almost seems better than my other Verizon phones (weird!)
8. Carrier label will be either '123456,' '002127' (EvDO only), or (I think?) '31000' when not using LTE (i.e., 1X or 3G). When on LTE the phone should show "Verizon Wireless" as normal
9. A SIM/modem reset may be necessary once in a great while it seems...so it's good to understand how to navigate to the "Phone Information" screen to toggle radio settings...also, I've found just SIM-cycling with a GSM SIM will often fix any connectivity problems as well...and sometimes just rebooting the phone with no SIM at all can help too (or a combo of all the above!)
If you can tolerate the above issues then the phone is great. I really enjoy it. I've found the Verizon side of things to be pretty reliable on the Axon 7, even with my endless tinkering with radio modes and other stuff, which has seemed to get me into (recoverable) trouble a few times.
Most importantly - the endless chatter on various forums that Verizon "blocks" the Axon 7 and other non-approved devices is total bunk. In every case where I've run into an issue it can be resolved on my side - Verizon is doing nothing whatsoever to inhibit the use of the Axon 7 on its network as far as I can tell (notwithstanding activation hurdles, admittedly)...many of the people making such claims seem to be speaking from a standpoint of total ignorance and it's kind of getting annoying, to be honest...it seems like the minute someone has an issue with the Axon 7, some ignoramus gets on the relevant forums/comments and claims that Verizon is "blocking" the device. Total BS IMO.
Good luck! As far as activation is concerned...I'd say it might be best to just go to Wal-Mart and buy a cheap prepaid phone or something (looks like the HTC Desire 526 has a nano-SIM and is only $37.49 on their website)...or maybe a cheap nano-SIM'd Verizon phone off of Swappa or eBay? That's probably what I'd do...But I know neither of those solutions are particularly helpful...VZW definitely makes it a bit of a pain.
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#6 might not need the GSM SIM workaround anymore after the B27 update. The + sign shows up for me all the time now, even if I only have a Verizon SIM inserted.
thanks for the list guys, i think i'll give it a shot. i'm going to try to add it as a second line to my wifes plan online. is borrowing a friends imei from a nano phone still the best way to get a new activated sim for this phone?
that 526 is a predaid, will verizon just switch that sim to plan if i call in? or are they different?
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that 526 is a predaid, will verizon just switch that sim to plan if i call in? or are they different?
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found this, not sure if this is still the rule...
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2016/02/new-policy-may-require-verizon-prepaid.html
"It turns out that Verizon made a policy change effective 1/17/16 that requires Verizon Prepaid Phones to be activated on Verizon Prepaid and have at least $30 in airtime applied to them before they cam be used on Verizon postpaid. A Reddit user posted a copy of an internal Verizon document detailing the new rule:
Effective 1/17/2016, customers who purchase a Prepaid 4G device must activate on a $30, $45, or $60 Prepaid plan and make at least 1 monthly service payment before they are eligible to move the device to a new or active Postpay account .
Device remains locked until first month’s payment is made on their Prepaid plan.
Device is unlocked automatically upon successful first month’s payment and can be used on Postpaid plan (new SIM or SIM swap).
Attempting to use an active Postpay SIM Card with a new 4G LTE Prepaid PIB smartphone prior to making the required monthly payment, hotlines the Postpay MDN (SFO 83643) . The hotline remains until first month’s payment is made.
Customers who activate on the $45 or $60 Prepaid plans and enroll in Auto Pay, receive bonus 1GB data per month.
If account is hotlined:
Data access, outgoing calls, and text messaging do not work.
Text message is sent to smartphone.
*VZW FREE MSG: Phone must be activated on Verizon Wireless Prepaid service and first monthly payment must be made before it can be used with any other service. *
Auto-remark is placed on the customer's account.
*SIM Swap attempted: MDN Hotlined. Phone must be activated on VZW Prepaid service and first month paid before it can be activated as postpaid. *"
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thanks for the list guys, i think i'll give it a shot. i'm going to try to add it as a second line to my wifes plan online. is borrowing a friends imei from a nano phone still the best way to get a new activated sim for this phone?
that 526 is a predaid, will verizon just switch that sim to plan if i call in? or are they different?
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found this, not sure if this is still the rule...
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2016/02/new-policy-may-require-verizon-prepaid.html
"It turns out that Verizon made a policy change effective 1/17/16 that requires Verizon Prepaid Phones to be activated on Verizon Prepaid and have at least $30 in airtime applied to them before they cam be used on Verizon postpaid. A Reddit user posted a copy of an internal Verizon document detailing the new rule:
Effective 1/17/2016, customers who purchase a Prepaid 4G device must activate on a $30, $45, or $60 Prepaid plan and make at least 1 monthly service payment before they are eligible to move the device to a new or active Postpay account .
Device remains locked until first month’s payment is made on their Prepaid plan.
Device is unlocked automatically upon successful first month’s payment and can be used on Postpaid plan (new SIM or SIM swap).
Attempting to use an active Postpay SIM Card with a new 4G LTE Prepaid PIB smartphone prior to making the required monthly payment, hotlines the Postpay MDN (SFO 83643) . The hotline remains until first month’s payment is made.
Customers who activate on the $45 or $60 Prepaid plans and enroll in Auto Pay, receive bonus 1GB data per month.
If account is hotlined:
Data access, outgoing calls, and text messaging do not work.
Text message is sent to smartphone.
*VZW FREE MSG: Phone must be activated on Verizon Wireless Prepaid service and first monthly payment must be made before it can be used with any other service. *
Auto-remark is placed on the customer's account.
*SIM Swap attempted: MDN Hotlined. Phone must be activated on VZW Prepaid service and first month paid before it can be activated as postpaid. *"
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Dang...yeah I think you're right about this. My mistake...ugh I wish they'd just make it easy! In that case I'd say Swappa would be the best route...I've bought a few phones off of there and it's always been a great experience.
What are your APN settings? I'm having issues getting my data to work on Verizon.
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What are your APN settings? I'm having issues getting my data to work on Verizon.
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Mine: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68263623&postcount=61
So frustrating. Before update used today Verizon in upper left corner. Switched to 123456 after update. Rebooted and it went back. After another reboot it only says 123456 and nothing I do will change it back. And now when I get an MMS hangouts tells me it needs to download it but nothing happens. I never get LTE anymore either.
Edit: not sure what I did but it's back now. Might have something to do with bearer in apn settings being lte.
KyJelly69 said:
So frustrating. Before update used today Verizon in upper left corner. Switched to 123456 after update. Rebooted and it went back. After another reboot it only says 123456 and nothing I do will change it back. And now when I get an MMS hangouts tells me it needs to download it but nothing happens. I never get LTE anymore either.
Edit: not sure what I did but it's back now. Might have something to do with bearer in apn settings being lte.
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That's #9 in the above list that was posted. Need to cycle the modem state of the device.
so, can someone help me with a little clarification? did ZTE ever actually disable anything regarding Verizon on this phone? i know when people quote the webinar, it sounded like they were going to. i understand that the functionality is basically all still working, but i'm wondering if maybe i'm confused on the terminology.
in this post on reddit, i heard the same thing that has been repeated by some, and i am wondering if i have my band terminology confused. is the cdma part different from the 4g lte part(and that's why it's still working)?, or is sarah just incorrect?
SarahSchmera 3 points 9 hours ago
Axon 7
Doesn't work on Verizon yet. It supposedly has CDMA radios but the radio firmware has them disabled. ZTE can't by law enable the CDMA radios because they didn't get FCC approval for the CDMA radios. They would have to pay for the testing and then resubmit the device to the FCC to get approval before they turned on the CDMA radios through a software update.
And the device doesn't have the firmware for VoLTE, HD calling or WiFi calling on Verizon.
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Verizon Moto g4 unlocked by Verizon

Has anyone who bought the g4 play Verizon version noticed the unlock policy says either use the phone for one year or make $75 in payments? I'm wondering if Verizon actually unlocks the device will it enable the 3g bands they are there but they're blocked. Has anyone actually had Verizon unlock this device?
How do you know that the 3G HSPA+ bands are present? The specs I've seen only list quad-band GSM, dual-band CDMA, and LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 13.
Ohk I got my Moto g4 unlocked and I actually got it to dial out the problem is I think because my phone is still on it kept taking me to Verizon my service was T-cdma and I couldn't find where I could input APN settings
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Ohk I got my Moto g4 unlocked and I actually got it to dial out the problem is I think because my phone is still on it kept taking me to Verizon my service was T-cdma and I couldn't find where I could input APN settings
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How did you get it unlocked?
I got the code from Verizon
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How did you get it unlocked?
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I got the code from Verizon all u have to do is make $75 in payments and they'll unlock it but I tried it with at&t and T-Mobile and with at&t u don't get the same options as u do with T-Mobile so if it was gonna work T-Mobile would be the best bet to try
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I got the code from Verizon all u have to do is make $75 in payments and they'll unlock it but I tried it with at&t and T-Mobile and with at&t u don't get the same options as u do with T-Mobile so if it was gonna work T-Mobile would be the best bet to try
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I notice that you have advanced 4g lte.
When I tried to get that option through Verizon they told me it was not available on this phone.
Obviously the phone is capable of this feature.
Did you get advanced 4g lte after unlocking it with the code on Verizon or because you are using a T-Mobile sim?
classic757 said:
I notice that you have advanced 4g lte.
When I tried to get that option through Verizon they told me it was not available on this phone.
Obviously the phone is capable of this feature.
Did you get advanced 4g lte after unlocking it with the code on Verizon or because you are using a T-Mobile sim?
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Only when I insert a T-Mobile sim it doesn't even pop up when I insert an at&t sim and if u remove the battery while it's on the charger and insert any other sim it automatically greys out
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Only when I insert a T-Mobile sim it doesn't even pop up when I insert an at&t sim and if u remove the battery while it's on the charger and insert any other sim it automatically greys out
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Okay, so the phone has the capability but only through T-Mobile it seems.
Verizon and AT&T must have some sort of block on their network so the feature can't be used on the xt1609. Why, idk.
Makes no sense to me.
In order to be able to dial out you have to change the CDMA Subscription to NV if not you'll get "sim error or no sim" but the calls are still over 1x. Also for whatever reason different sims make the phone act differently. At&t sims only give u an option for APN, if you use a T-Mobile sim long as you change the network mode from LTE to 3g or 2g you get options to change cmda subscription, APN, advanced 4glte, search for networks etc. My network was always T-Cdma on T-Mobile long as I changed to NV while on at&t no signal pops in at all
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Okay, so the phone has the capability but only through T-Mobile it seems.
Verizon and AT&T must have some sort of block on their network so the feature can't be used on the xt1609. Why, idk.
Makes no sense to me.
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I'm gonna try again once my month is up if I'm not mistaken CDMA is programmed in the phone so that could be a reason I'm having trouble but I also thought that if I remove the sim the CDMA portion would still work which is not the case but either way all my calls are routed to Verizon
snoopy1e11 said:
I got the code from Verizon all u have to do is make $75 in payments and they'll unlock it but I tried it with at&t and T-Mobile and with at&t u don't get the same options as u do with T-Mobile so if it was gonna work T-Mobile would be the best bet to try
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Have you ever tried the method which worked with the prepaid Verizon Moto E phone https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...-to-verizon-moto-e-2015-gsm-network-t3098953?
I haven't tried it but I think I read somewhere that it didn't work as a matter of fact it doesn't work

Verizon

Anyone check to see if other gsm sim cards would work in the Verizon version of the moto e4?
Also will this verizon model work on Jio network (850 band available in this set) in India?
I can confirm it works with AT&T Freedompop GSM SIM after buying a $2 unlock code on ebay. Noted it picks up LTE bands 2,4,5,17. Band 5 is the 850 Mhz frequency.
Whyzor said:
I can confirm it works with AT&T Freedompop GSM SIM after buying a $2 unlock code on ebay. Noted it picks up LTE bands 2,4,5,17. Band 5 is the 850 Mhz frequency.
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You able to place calls??
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You able to place calls??
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I use T-Mobile and after buying the SIM unlock on eBay, I am able to use both voice and data.
That's crazy cricket doesn't allow voice calls for me .I ordered unlock code from eBay also
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That's crazy cricket doesn't allow voice calls for me .I ordered unlock code from eBay also
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You may need to change the settings to use T-Mobile/GSM network or something like that. Some people mentioned it in the slickdeals forum:
https://slickdeals.net/f/10418732-verizon-moto-e4-prepaid-39-88-walmart
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That's crazy cricket doesn't allow voice calls for me .I ordered unlock code from eBay also
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When I first inserted the cricket sim, it wont allow the voice calls. I switched the preferred network from 4g to 3g, the calls worked. Switched it back to 4g and they still work. Try doing this, it works..
EDIT: Remember, it switches from LTE to 3G when making the calls. I got the unlock code from ebay for $2.09.
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When I first inserted the cricket sim, it wont allow the voice calls. I switched the preferred network from 4g to 3g, the calls worked. Switched it back to 4g and they still work. Try doing this, it works..
EDIT: Remember, it switches from LTE to 3G when making the calls. I got the unlock code from ebay for $2.09.
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Hey thanks ! That worked
so, 100% sure that it works to make calls, data and sms when try unlock code from ebay? is yes, i´ll buy one to try in México
I unlocked mine with a code off eBay. I am currently using it on Cricket(At&t). Everything is working fine..data, calls, texts, MMS. Just had to find the correct APN settings. From my understanding...it should be usable on Sprint/Boost but who would want to.
Hi, anyone know how to dial special numbers like *611 or *264 when your using another sim (from other carrier, nota Verizon) ? Because im trying but always appear +1 simbol before i dial
My friend bought the Verizon prepaid version and isn't able to connect to many WiFi networks, like the airport ones (he tried in a couple different airports and none worked), any ideas how to fix that?
I unlocked my verizon E4 through ebay and checked it works with Jio in Mumbai -
4G was working without setting up the APN - just put the sim
I unlocked mine for $2 on ebay and my at&t sim works. sms does have a slight delay sending at times but lte and calls work.
This might sound like a stupid question, but this could be used with a Verizon post-paid SIM, correct? My son has the HTC 10 and it got dropped in water but he is away at school. He should be able to just run to Target, grab one for $40, and take that nano SIM out of his bad HTC 10 and pop it in the Verizon Pre-paid Moto E4 and that's it, correct? No need to call Verizon or anything?
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This might sound like a stupid question, but this could be used with a Verizon post-paid SIM, correct? My son has the HTC 10 and it got dropped in water but he is away at school. He should be able to just run to Target, grab one for $40, and take that nano SIM out of his bad HTC 10 and pop it in the Verizon Pre-paid Moto E4 and that's it, correct? No need to call Verizon or anything?
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I believe that is correct from what I've read here.
Supposedly, already activated Verizon post-paid sims are good to go. It's when you try to activate the Verizon prepaid phone that you run into problems because the prepaid IMEI is NOT whitelisted. Of course, 'm only repeating what I've read. I don't use Verizon, so YMMV.
acejavelin said:
This might sound like a stupid question, but this could be used with a Verizon post-paid SIM, correct? My son has the HTC 10 and it got dropped in water but he is away at school. He should be able to just run to Target, grab one for $40, and take that nano SIM out of his bad HTC 10 and pop it in the Verizon Pre-paid Moto E4 and that's it, correct? No need to call Verizon or anything?
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Also not a Verizon user here, but as I understand it, putting postpaid VZW sim in a prepaid device that hasn't been active on a prepaid account will result in a lock being put on your postpaid account. This will necessitate a call to VZW customer service to 'reactivate' the account - no calls messages or data until you make that call (from another line)
This is what I recall from discussion around similar use case in the Moto e 2015 forums. Ymmv.
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Also not a Verizon user here, but as I understand it, putting postpaid VZW sim in a prepaid device that hasn't been active on a prepaid account will result in a lock being put on your postpaid account. This will necessitate a call to VZW customer service to 'reactivate' the account - no calls messages or data until you make that call (from another line)
This is what I recall from discussion around similar use case in the Moto e 2015 forums. Ymmv.
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Hmm... That could be a problem, at least in the short term, but he was able to come up with a Verizon LG G2 and popped his SIM in and it worked. A couple days in rice may help, but I have my doubts.
In the mean time, since Target had these on sale for $39.99, I picked one up (my local store had about a dozen in stock) in case the phone is dead and he decides not to get it repaired under the service agreement by paying the deductible (which is $150 I think). Not going to open it for the time being, but will see what happens as time goes on.
I am a little concerned when you say "will result in a lock being put on your postpaid account", since this account has 3 lines in it and neither of us is the account holder. :/ To you have a link back to that information?
I read that they freeze your account and won't let it work with the prepaid phone (on Slickdeals)

Axon 7, dual SIM, PagePlus (vz vmno) and VZ sim card same time

Hi devs! got new Axon7.... really hoping to run both CDMA SIMS at the same time. Can we start a thread for dual SIM use, where neither is a GSM SIM? I'd really like to run both numbers on this phone. Tried all kinds of settings, currently on nightly LOS. I've tried nearly every APN setting.
kcnorden said:
Hi devs! got new Axon7.... really hoping to run both CDMA SIMS at the same time. Can we start a thread for dual SIM use, where neither is a GSM SIM? I'd really like to run both numbers on this phone. Tried all kinds of settings, currently on nightly LOS. I've tried nearly every APN setting.
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Unfortunately, only SIM1 is wired to the phone's CDMA antenna (GSM/CDMA/HSPA/EVDO/LTE). SIM2 is only wired to GSM/HSPA/LTE. As the phone is not approved by Verizon, you need CDMA to be able to authenticate the device with the network, so even if you wanted to go Verizon-LTE-data-only on SIM2, it won't be able to connect. For any Verizon-based provider, it's SIM1 or bust.
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Unfortunately, only SIM1 is wired to the phone's CDMA antenna (GSM/CDMA/HSPA/EVDO/LTE). SIM2 is only wired to GSM/HSPA/LTE. As the phone is not approved by Verizon, you need CDMA to be able to authenticate the device with the network, so even if you wanted to go Verizon-LTE-data-only on SIM2, it won't be able to connect. For any Verizon-based provider, it's SIM1 or bust.
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I was afraid of that, or access to the modem, for example. If we can't connect via hardware, would it be possible to emulate or allow for software control/flipping "sims" so to speak? Perhaps moving this to the dev forum... I really appreciate your expertise and help. I'd like to keep the second # on PP, but might have to somehow port or forward to to the main/other VZW connection.
With all that said, I recall getting SIM2 working..... so I just checked. disabled SIM1, and after a few jiggles, I get LTE on SIM2, can cruise internet... so I might ask, if a hardware wiring restriction is there, my setup doesn't seem to reflect it. I can get ping test on ip4 to work.... ????
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I was afraid of that, or access to the modem, for example. If we can't connect via hardware, would it be possible to emulate or allow for software control/flipping "sims" so to speak? Perhaps moving this to the dev forum... I really appreciate your expertise and help. I'd like to keep the second # on PP, but might have to somehow port or forward to to the main/other VZW connection.
With all that said, I recall getting SIM2 working..... so I just checked. disabled SIM1, and after a few jiggles, I get LTE on SIM2, can cruise internet... so I might ask, if a hardware wiring restriction is there, my setup doesn't seem to reflect it. I can get ping test on ip4 to work.... ????
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It seems to be very fickle, constantly having to toggle radio, network protocols, and seems to be either/or. After re-activating the SIM1, the SIM2 signal meter will show an R, with no bars of signal. The R stays, but no SMS will send out. If I disable SIM1, LTE signal bars on SIM2, no R..... and internet works fine. still no SMS on SIM2. double checked APN settings for pageplus(TRACFONE.VZWENTP), they are customized to included MMS stuff, oddly, it won't add with MCC310 and MNC012 like PP tells me, but matched to my S4 with PP, it adds well as MCC311/MNC480(same as VZW APN).
(Wondering about ZTE AXON 7 dual SIM VZW and Lineage????)All other LOS 14.2 nighlty, speakers, battery mgmt, camera (back side button seemed to have worked BEFORE LOS?) u know, no screen problems. unlock, TWRP, root(if you want), LOS whatever you like.
Should I be pursuing older modem firmware to resolve dual CDMA SIM capabilities? APN or protcol settings? specific dual SIM ROMs? Virtual SIM swapping driod zip? Any direction would be duly noted by the Internet. thx all.
bump. I really dont want to flip SIMs every few days. Any help please?
So, i have to constantly switch SIMs between slot 1 and 2, hoping no SMS messages expire? Cmon, is no one going to help us find a solution to this?
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So, i have to constantly switch SIMs between slot 1 and 2, hoping no SMS messages expire? Cmon, is no one going to help us find a solution to this?
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The user above already answered your question correctly, to the best of my knowledge - this phone will not be able to achieve what you desire. Maybe you can get an LTE-only connection on slot 2 with a CDMA SIM but even that's iffy as the Axon 7 typically rejects CDMA SIMs in slot 2, as I'm sure you've noted. Not sure if LOS allows it but even if so I would think the same technical limitation applies.
This isn't a software limitation...it's a hardware limitation. Thus we can't do much about it.
And for reference, the other Verizon-friendly dual SIM phone, the Xiaomi Mi Note 2, also has this limitation though it's slightly better as you can keep both CDMA SIMs in both slots and switch between. Perhaps that's more what you're looking for?
hot-swapping SIMS seems to cause connection issues, best to swap while powered down? this stinks, anyone? HELP
Well, if it is a hardware issue, can we not sym link or software mod to allow us not to remove SIM's all the time, missing messages? The Xiaomi Note2 seems like the fix, but .....B13..... that's why the Axon7 seems a better fr for VZW towers...
I really appreciate the info.
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Well, if it is a hardware issue, can we not sym link or software mod to allow us not to remove SIM's all the time, missing messages? The Xiaomi Note2 seems like the fix, but .....B13..... that's why the Axon7 seems a better fr for VZW towers...
I really appreciate the info.
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The Mi Note 2 Global version has band 13 and 4 and 2 so it's totally compatible with Verizon. Also CDMA 0 and 1 so there are no limitations in this respect.
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The Mi Note 2 Global version has band 13 and 4 and 2 so it's totally compatible with Verizon. Also CDMA 0 and 1 so there are no limitations in this respect.
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Really? Just looked up the Note2, looks equally impressive. Might hafta swappa the AXON7 to note2..... Back to the AXON7 , does anyone have experience making it work with CDMA only on SIM2? I could live with the AXON if SIM2 would get/send SMS.
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The Mi Note 2 Global version has band 13 and 4 and 2 so it's totally compatible with Verizon. Also CDMA 0 and 1 so there are no limitations in this respect.
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Is it known if both SIM slots on the Mi Note 2 Global are hooked up to the CDMA antenna?
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Is it known if both SIM slots on the Mi Note 2 Global are hooked up to the CDMA antenna?
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Guess we have to buy one and see. report back in a bit.
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The Mi Note 2 Global version has band 13 and 4 and 2 so it's totally compatible with Verizon. Also CDMA 0 and 1 so there are no limitations in this respect.
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So, Flyer_Andy... does the VZW VMMO SIM work in slot 2? :angel:
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So, Flyer_Andy... does the VZW VMMO SIM work in slot 2? :angel:
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Yes it seemed to work in both slots. Unfortunately I sold my Note 2 as I really prefer the Axon 7 but I do seem to recall that either slot worked just fine. I seem to recall trying two different CDMA SIMs and independently they worked when you changed the data to the one you wanted to use. But they did not work simultaneously. Hopefully I'm remembering correctly as this was a few weeks ago but I'm pretty sure the Note 2 did allow you to toggle between two CDMA SIMs without issue.
In general, the Note 2 had better radio firmware than the Axon 7...much more stable in every way. It was a very fine device though I didn't like the pentile display and that in the end was why I sold it. I also like to use a screen protector and the curved screen was really annoying as you have to use a wet application film to get the best results and I'm not very good at applying those.
Hey...I just wanted to update this one as I got ahold of a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and tested it with two active Verizon SIMs. The results are good vis-a-vis the OP's issue.
You can have two CDMA SIMs in the Mix 2 and while you won't get simultaneous CDMA connection (even with VoLTE connected...which would seem to "free up" the CDMA connection for use on the opposing SIM but perhaps this isn't techincally feasible) on both SIMs, you will be able to switch back and forth without changing anything relating to the SIMs' physical position, unlike the Axon 7. So, in case you're willing to throw about $550 at a new Xiaomi Mi Mix 2, it looks like dual SIM-single standby operation can be achieved with two CDMA SIMs. The Xiaomi Mi Note 2 Global almost certainly can perform in this way as well.
ADD'L INFO: I tried this setup for an hour or so and I ran into some connectivity issues, where the SIMs would be stuck on an inactive CDMA connection or CDMA+EvDO 3G. To resolve this, I had to go into the testing menu (*#*# 4636 *#*# in the dialer) and manually turn the radio off totally (airplane mode wasn't sufficient) and then turn the radio back on. This seemed to resolve things permanently.
Also, this is unrelated, but for AT&T/Verizon users, the Mi Mix 2 looks to be capable of CDMA + UMTS (3G) simultaneous service, which is a godsend as presently the Axon 7 only allows EDGE + CDMA and thus creates service issues for AT&T customers in 3G-only areas.
Figured I'd ask here instead of creating a new thread.
I am looking for a dual sim phone to use where one would be Verizon and other sim would be AT&T. I don't care which sim gives me data as long as both get calls.
Would Axon 7 work for this? Thanks for any help.
Pr20 said:
Figured I'd ask here instead of creating a new thread.
I am looking for a dual sim phone to use where one would be Verizon and other sim would be AT&T. I don't care which sim gives me data as long as both get calls.
Would Axon 7 work for this? Thanks for any help.
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Hello...yes... The Axon 7 should work in your use case most of the time as it can pick up CDMA 1X alongside WCDMA and LTE, the latter two of which are the technologies that AT&T uses. So, as long as you're in an active Verizon 1X area, and you keep the data SIM on AT&T, you should be able to pick up calls on both SIMs.
It is important to note, however, that Verizon does have some coverage areas which are dependent on voice-over-LTE for calls and text. So in these areas, you will not be able to receive voice service or texting on Verizon while using your AT&T SIM for data. But, these areas should be relatively rare, at least for now.

T-Mobile SIM Unlocked OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren Edition on AT&T/Sprint/Verizon

I already SIM unlocked my T-Mo McLaren 5G (and waiting the 7 days for bootloader unlock) but I don't have any other carrier SIM on hand. Can anyone test the McLaren 5G with other carriers and let us know if it is working fine/how well/how it compares to original carrier phones? (SIM Unlocked McLaren 5G of course) Thank you!
probably not much help, but my LOCKED T-Mo McLaren 5G ran a mint sim exactly like the t-mobile sim. so, t-mobile mvno's should work.
cheaper plans same 5G coverage.
My phone was granted unlock by TMobile but I don't have the TMobile unlock app . How did you unlock it
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My phone was granted unlock by TMobile but I don't have the TMobile unlock app . How did you unlock it
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Here's a screenshot of where I unlocked phone after it was granted the unlock from the reps! Hope this helps
Ok I did that but I got a failed and I hit up TMobile they told me that's wired because on there side it's eligible for unlock. They can't pin point why it's getting that error
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Edit: I finally got it unlocked [emoji1360]
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I finally got it unlocked
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How? I tried the network unlock from settings as shown above and I get "Unlock Failed" Error Code=255
I bought the phone online and I live in Canada so I can't even make a T-Mobile account and they wouldn't do anything regarding a network unlock over the phone when I wasn't a customer.
Tried a few websites but they all say the IMEI registers as CDMA yet the phone has a SIM card slot and the specs say GSM so I'm very confused as to how to get his unlocked so I can try and use it on Bell.
mine worked on freedompop att, on mint now, same 5g as t-mobile
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How? I tried the network unlock from settings as shown above and I get "Unlock Failed" Error Code=255
I bought the phone online and I live in Canada so I can't even make a T-Mobile account and they wouldn't do anything regarding a network unlock over the phone when I wasn't a customer.
Tried a few websites but they all say the IMEI registers as CDMA yet the phone has a SIM card slot and the specs say GSM so I'm very confused as to how to get his unlocked so I can try and use it on Bell.
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You should check and see if it has been blacklisted. If not you can possibly use Mint Sim. Mint Sim is an MVNO of T-Mobile which you can use without sim unlock I believe.
It will NOT work on Verizon at this time. I've spent hours on the phone with Tier 2. The farthest I got was " I filled out a form to have yours added to our DB and I'll call you back in a week either way". Needless to say, that call never came. I can get Data using my VZW SIM but no calls or texts.
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It will NOT work on Verizon at this time. I've spent hours on the phone with Tier 2. The farthest I got was " I filled out a form to have yours added to our DB and I'll call you back in a week either way". Needless to say, that call never came. I can get Data using my VZW SIM but no calls or texts.
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Just a quick thought... Did you try installing the Google Dialer and Google Messages to see if it was the Oneplus apps preventing the calls and texts.
savage25rcracer said:
Just a quick thought... Did you try installing the Google Dialer and Google Messages to see if it was the Oneplus apps preventing the calls and texts.
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Unfortunately, unless the IMEI is in the VZW DB, you won't get SMS and I'm unable to make calls. I read a few people were able to make calls but no SMS/MMS or RCS messaging. From what I've read, calls should not work due to the IMEI issue. I honestly don't understand how anyone could make calls with a VZW SIM.
As of software version .25 today, Verizon CDMA-less sims now work. Previously only data came through, now talk/text/volte are all functioning. You'll need to have the SIM provisioned CDMA-less with a different CDMA-less phone before swapping the sim card in. Note that as of software version .16 however, band 13 support has been removed.
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As of software version .25 today, Verizon CDMA-less sims now work. Previously only data came through, now talk/text/volte are all functioning. You'll need to have the SIM provisioned CDMA-less with a different CDMA-less phone before swapping the sim card in. Note that as of software version .16 however, band 13 support has been removed.
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I thought 13 was the primary band for VZW LTE? If it's gone after .16, wouldn't updating to .25 be an issue?
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I thought 13 was the primary band for VZW LTE? If it's gone after .16, wouldn't updating to .25 be an issue?
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It is their main band, but VZW has a lot of band 5 around and thick cell density so it would still be usable, just not the best experience possible. Version .13 had band 13 enabled, but I never tested .13 to see if VoLTE was working.
As of last night. Still no go for me. I had one of my VZW Sims put into another CDMA-less phone, called VZW and had them make that SIM CDMA-less. That phone worked for calls and SMS. Shut down that phone and the McLaren, swapped SIM but same problem. No calls and no texts. Called back and was again told my IMEI is not in the VZW DB.
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As of last night. Still no go for me. I had one of my VZW Sims put into another CDMA-less phone, called VZW and had them make that SIM CDMA-less. That phone worked for calls and SMS. Shut down that phone and the McLaren, swapped SIM but same problem. No calls and no texts. Called back and was again told my IMEI is not in the VZW DB.
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I have a Verizon tracfone line tied to a Oneplus 7 Pro, moving that sim to the T-Mobile 5G McLaren works after a reboot for calls/text/VoLTE. Maybe something is happening on postpaid VZW causing CDMA-less to be removed when you're moving the sim, I'm not sure.
VZW finally added the 7T Pro McLaren to their DB. I put my VZW SIM in and booted it. I was able to make and take calls and send texts outbound. I called VZW and had my line setup as CDMA-LESS and started getting texts. Data is working fine.
I tested a Verizon prepaid SIM. It connected to LTE and data, SMS and phone call all worked with no problem.
I'm on build 10.0.25.HD61CB
I've never contacted Verizon about this and I'm not provisioned in any special way. When I ordered the Verizon service I signed up with a BYO Pixel XL.
I have to pay my t-mobile one plus 7T pro mc claren phone completely off before I can get it sim unlocked by t-mobile right? Thanks In advance for any information on this topic. Thanks!!!
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