The LG V20 H990 is cheaper than other models. Why? - LG V20 Questions & Answers

Looking at pricing on ebay and other online retailers, the dual sim LG V20 H990DS is selling at a lower price than the single sim variants.
Aside from being dual sim, is there any other difference between the H990DS and other variants?
Is there any reason not to buy the H990DS?

Byte_76 said:
Looking at pricing on ebay and other online retailers, the dual sim LG V20 H990DS is selling at a lower price than the single sim variants.
Aside from being dual sim, is there any other difference between the H990DS and other variants?
Is there any reason not to buy the H990DS?
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Well, you could be like the other 6-10 Americans on this board with a single sim T-mobile variant which (correct me if wrong) has its bootloader unlocked and root available. The LG dev community seems (to me) uninspired and, for lack of a better word, a bit too lazy to explore the models (like H990DS) which are used more commonly throughout the global market.
To answer your question, WHY NOT buy it:
- There's no root for H990DS
- Dev community for LG "deosn't really exist"
- Bootloader isn't and will probably never be, unlocked
Other differences? Compare on GSMarena. Keep in mind they aren't always accurate specs.
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additionally , you dont get any warranty on those models since they are shipped from Korea. So that makes it cheaper as well because they are selling phones without warranty.
FYI: I bought this model for $630 from amazon and it shipped from Korea and it came with headphones in box!

adit07 said:
additionally , you dont get any warranty on those models since they are shipped from Korea. So that makes it cheaper as well because they are selling phones without warranty.
FYI: I bought this model for $630 from amazon and it shipped from Korea and it came with headphones in box!
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Is the H990DS one of the B&O tuned variants with the B&O logo on the back or is it an LG tuned variant?
Did you receive B&O H3 headphones or just a normal set of LG headphones?
I would like to be able to unlock the bootloader but I can live without it. Having dual sim and lower price are higher priority for me as long as there are no other differences.
I'd hate to find out that my phone is missing the quad DAC or some other imporant features that make the LG v20 special and which are included with the single sim models.

Byte_76 said:
Is the H990DS one of the B&O tuned variants with the B&O logo on the back or is it an LG tuned variant?
Did you receive B&O H3 headphones or just a normal set of LG headphones?
I would like to be able to unlock the bootloader but I can live without it. Having dual sim and lower price are higher priority for me as long as there are no other differences.
I'd hate to find out that my phone is missing the quad DAC or some other imporant features that make the LG v20 special and which are included with the single sim models.
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This model is tuned by B&O and has logo at the back. Mine came with B&O headphones.
see this video:
This is the same version I have
Another thing to note is that the bands on this version are different to some US variants. For example, I am on tmobile and this model has mostly all bands 2,4,12 (but not the newer 66) and it is missing some bands for AT&T. Also, this model is gsm only

I too can live without the bootloader, but root is critical. Checkout the other threads on page 1 or 2 in this board or the others, I've created a bounty thread to see if any dev will take the bat and actually develop something. Certainly worth contributing to and paying for if its released for this mode, H990DS
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GSM and LTE
Model H990ds
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Any updates on the dual sim pros and cons? Ty

adit07 said:
This model is tuned by B&O and has logo at the back. Mine came with B&O headphones.
see this video:
This is the same version I have
Another thing to note is that the bands on this version are different to some US variants. For example, I am on tmobile and this model has mostly all bands 2,4,12 (but not the newer 66) and it is missing some bands for AT&T. Also, this model is gsm only
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Are the missing att bands problematic for using Cricket now or in the near future? Will the 990ds allow WiFi calling on Cricket?
Thanks!

affald said:
Are the missing att bands problematic for using Cricket now or in the near future? Will the 990ds allow WiFi calling on Cricket?
Thanks!
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There is no wifi calling in this model. Cricket is cdma network so I am not sure this model will work on it

Related

I want a Korean S3 with 2GB RAM and quadcore!!

Indulge me.
The Korean SGS3 comes with 2GB RAM and the quadcore Exynos 4412 chip:
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/08/sk-telecoms-galaxy-s-iii-merges-quad-core-cpu-and-2gb-ram/
South Korea uses 2100Mhz HSPA band - as does the UK where I live.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
What's stopping me from (somehow) buying a Korean one and importing it for use here in the UK?
Also, any ideas how I would even go about buying something from Korea??
setspeed said:
Indulge me.
The Korean SGS3 comes with 2GB RAM and the quadcore Exynos 4412 chip:
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/08/sk-telecoms-galaxy-s-iii-merges-quad-core-cpu-and-2gb-ram/
South Korea uses 2100Mhz HSPA band - as does the UK where I live.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
What's stopping me from (somehow) buying a Korean one and importing it for use here in the UK?
Also, any ideas how I would even go about buying something from Korea??
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Willing to bet, the Korean version won't use a Micro-Sim that GSM carriers use, as they're network SK Telecom if i recall does not require the use of sim cards. Also chances are the Korean version will be locked to region specific carriers there.
Don't go for it. Their will be a lot of issues with it. Also very bad developer support, worse than American version.
There may be other hardware compatibility issues with your network.
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Can't you just buy off-contract sim-free handsets, like you could here in the UK? Not attached/locked to a network?
setspeed said:
Can't you just buy off-contract sim-free handsets, like you could here in the UK? Not attached/locked to a network?
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His point is quad core and two gb ram. I understand his itch. Only that phone can scratch it.
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ceo.mtcl said:
His point is quad core and two gb ram. I understand his itch. Only that phone can scratch it.
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For now lol
doeboy711 said:
For now lol
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The next Nexus better have a quad with 2gb of ram!!!
djkinetic said:
Willing to bet, the Korean version won't use a Micro-Sim that GSM carriers use, as they're network SK Telecom if i recall does not require the use of sim cards. Also chances are the Korean version will be locked to region specific carriers there.
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Quite a lot of the new smartphones in Korea come with usim cards..
Don't ask me the finer details.
There are 3 major carriers in SK, two of them operate WCDMA networks.
I would not go for this phone. Like somebody else said, bad developer support.
ceo.mtcl said:
Don't go for it. Their will be a lot of issues with it. Also very bad developer support, worse than American version.
There may be other hardware compatibility issues with your network.
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Are saying that American version is going to have bad development support, when it's most likely going to be better.
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I got an international one today and it's on at&t in the states. It's not running at hspa+ speeds though
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zion4887 said:
I got an international one today and it's on at&t in the states. It's not running at hspa+ speeds though
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check to make sure your APN is set to phone
zion4887 said:
I got an international one today and it's on at&t in the states. It's not running at hspa+ speeds though
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You must not be having god connection then.
Here are my hspa speeds
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You must not be having god connection then.
Here are my hspa speeds
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Why are you using an app to display battery life. You know the S3 has that built into stock now right?
If I have assisted you, please press Thanks button.
ok so i want the international version, my carrier (h2o wireless) runs on att but they dont have 4g only 3g... my question is , would it work on my carrier?
Haha!
ronj1986 said:
Why are you using an app to display battery life. You know the S3 has that built into stock now right?
If I have assisted you, please press Thanks button.
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You mean that ugly stock battery percentage that appears next to the battery icon and takes up additional space? If you have noticed, I do not have any app but actually a circles mod that can display battery percentage within the battery icon.
For the dev support I disagree, it seems they will get the same hardware as the int version only more ram and LTE support so int roms shouln'd be hard to port, am I wrong?
djkinetic said:
Willing to bet, the Korean version won't use a Micro-Sim that GSM carriers use, as they're network SK Telecom if i recall does not require the use of sim cards. Also chances are the Korean version will be locked to region specific carriers there.
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Speaking form experience the SIM card issue is no longer a problem, Korean phones now use SIM cards, all carriers here ( SK, KT, LG all use SIM cards)
All Android phones here as of today (SGS3 is still unknown) are sold carrier unlocked, I've used my Korean issue GalaxyS (m110s) in various countries with no issue (India/China/UK)
Problem with the Korean version is that' you'll lose FM functionality and gain a useless DMB (TV) chip instead, also it's dimensions are ever slightly larger, so getting nice cases might be slightly harder, or you'll have to order from Korea, not impossible though.
Phones can be bought off the shelf here, they're just more expensive than in Europe/US
I'm pretty sure the american version dev support will be just as good as the international.

Which model is preferable to take overseas?

I noticed the Verizon S3 has a mini-SIM port.. but why? I thought Verizon phones don't have SIM cards at all?
Also, is it true that the AT&T model doesn't have a SIM card port at all? How is it activated then?
Also, the T-mobile model apparently has calling-over-WiFi (uma). Does that only work on t-mobile's network or will it work overseas too?
The micro sim port is for Verizon lte. Tmobiles is also a micro sim, and I think you still have to be connected to Tmobiles network to use wifi calling. Don't know about att.
t-mobile sgs3 stock rom/rooted
PhrostB said:
I noticed the Verizon S3 has a mini-SIM port.. but why? I thought Verizon phones don't have SIM cards at all?
Also, is it true that the AT&T model doesn't have a SIM card port at all? How is it activated then?
Also, the T-mobile model apparently has calling-over-WiFi (uma). Does that only work on t-mobile's network or will it work overseas too?
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AT&T version does have a mini sim slot right beside the SD Card. It's a spring loaded slot.
crystalstylez said:
AT&T version does have a mini sim slot right beside the SD Card. It's a spring loaded slot.
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So which model is this?
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I believe that Verizon has stated that they will enable global roaming on the Galaxy S3 in the future, but I'm not sure on that.
PhrostB said:
So which model is this?
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The one on the left is probably SPRINT, as they've been hard-embedding the LTE SIM card into the device to bastardize it (they're doing it with all phones).
The right is probably AT&T/TMO.
ExodusC said:
I believe that Verizon has stated that they will enable global roaming on the Galaxy S3 in the future, but I'm not sure on that.
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Well, the internal chipset has GSM support. You wouldn't be able to change the SIM card, I believe. You'd be stuck on VZW's expensive international roaming plans.
But for global roaming it'd only support 800 Mhz and 1900 Mhz bands, unless Verizon had them add the extra hardware.
The AT&T version uses the same frequencies as the international version.
Side by side comparison i747 and i9300
I travel quite a bit outside of the US for work, and for international travel, your best bet is the ATT version since GSM will give you the most options outside of the North America. As mentioned, Verizon may be offering some limited compatibility, but you will be stuck to their plan, whereas the ATT version (esp if unlocked) will allow you to swap chips in other countries as desired.
I say ATT because band-wise it has the most international compatible ones, and the 2100 band will help in regions like Japan and Korea that don't use standard GSM.
TMo is probably the second choice, but because they use bands like 1700 that no one else really uses, you're still better off with ATT.
The CDMA versions would be the last ones (Verizon and Sprint) since their roaming will be limited.
This is assuming you are picking from the US versions - for Canadian models, just find the carrier that matches ATT (I believe Rogers is the closest).
I'm starting to think I should just get the international version.
PhrostB said:
I'm starting to think I should just get the international version.
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Is your home base in the US? Are you on an LTE network? Not sure if international version works with LTE. One reason why we have a different processor in our US phones because of LTE. A South Korean model (international version) will have LTE support but I don't know if its available.
GSM is your best bet if you live in the US. ATT or TMo. Verizon's international roaming is quite expensive.
gingson said:
Is your home base in the US? Are you on an LTE network? Not sure if international version works with LTE. One reason why we have a different processor in our US phones because of LTE. A South Korean model (international version) will have LTE support but I don't know if its available.
GSM is your best bet if you live in the US. ATT or TMo. Verizon's international roaming is quite expensive.
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I'm usually in Israel.. specifically in an army base in the desert.
PhrostB said:
I'm usually in Israel.. specifically in an army base in the desert.
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I would go with the at&t one if you were to choose a us version. Personally if I had to pick I would just go with the international version if that where the case. I wanna see what the quadcore can do in a phone and personally I'm fine running hspa. I currently have no LTE were I'm at anyway. I have to drive like an hour to Baton Rouge for a taste lol.
By the way.... Tmobile wifi calling works anywhere there is wifi..
If you are overseas and you make a phone call back to the usa using wifi calling... Its free.. Its considered a usa to usa call....
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clninja said:
By the way.... Tmobile wifi calling works anywhere there is wifi..
If you are overseas and you make a phone call back to the usa using wifi calling... Its free.. Its considered a usa to usa call....
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Was just about to say this. I think you can also add an international long distance plan for a small fee (that way you can also call israeli numbers), which would make the phone work well anywhere you have wifi, then just get a prepaid sim to use while on the go. Just an idea tho.
I was only considering buying the phone here in the states and using it back home in israel with my regular carrier (Cellcom). Will the t-mobile S3 support calling-over-wifi even if I'm not on t-mobile's network?

[CANADA] LG G3 Canadian Users

LG Canada has announced that G3 will be available on August 1 on almost all the major carriers here in Canada except Telus, Fido, Virgin and Wind.
So lets get together and post all the updates into this thread.
My other HTC M8 thread for Canada was a good success where many users shared stock backups etc to help each other out. [CANADA] HTC One M8 Canadian Users
Information so far:
Model:
Rogers/Bell: D852
Rogers User Guide: http://www.rogers.com/web/support/wireless/userguide/2069?setLanguage=en
Wind/Videotron: D852g
LG G3 Canadian Firmwares: http://downloads.codefi.re/wolfgart/LG_G3
Release:
August 1
$699 Outright
Nothing so far on Contract price.
Waiting impatiently.
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LG Canada has announced that G3 will be available on August 1 on almost all the major carriers here in Canada except Telus, Fido, Virgin and Wind.
So lets get together and post all the updates into this thread.
My other HTC M8 thread for Canada was a good success where many users shared stock backups etc to help each other out. [CANADA] HTC One M8 Canadian Users
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I wonder what reason Telus, Fido, Virgin and Wind. will give for not carrying it probably moving to Iphone only
Fido and Virgin doesn't release HTC flagships as well because these are low end subsidiaries of Rogers and Bell. Wind is a very different story as it's AWS and not every OEM supports it.
So Samsung and iPhones are the favorites among all.
brar.arsh said:
Fido and Virgin doesn't release HTC flagships as well because these are low end subsidiaries of Rogers and Bell. Wind is a very different story as it's AWS and not every OEM supports it.
So Samsung and iPhones are the favorites among all.
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but Telus is up there with bell and rogers and Telus does not have it Im guessing Telus bloatware would not work on it
I'm guessing we're going to see $699 no-contract pricing on Canadian carriers. Thinking of buying a T-Mobile or Int'l version. I'm still a little confused on the band support of the variants.
mickliq said:
I'm guessing we're going to see $699 no-contract pricing on Canadian carriers. Thinking of buying a T-Mobile or Int'l version. I'm still a little confused on the band support of the variants.
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Am pretty sure it would be under $200 on contact with Rogers.
brar.arsh said:
Am pretty sure it would be under $200 on contact with Rogers.
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I don't do contracts
mickliq said:
I don't do contracts
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Hmm.. But if you look at G2,it was 599 so we can still see that price.
brar.arsh said:
Hmm.. But if you look at G2,it was 599 so we can still see that price.
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Highly doubt it. Rogers still has the GS5 listed at $699 and that's for a 16GB version with a 1080p screen.
Actually GS4 was priced the same. LG is always cheaper.
Does anyone know if the Canadian version with all wireless charging built in?
If yes, will it come with the "pad?" that is required for it to work?
Wooba99 said:
Does anyone know if the Canadian version with all wireless charging built in?
If yes, will it come with the "pad?" that is required for it to work?
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One of the guys who reviewed the Canadian unit, claims he only had two pins on his back cover so no wireless built in, unless LG/carriers change their mind before launch
dgovil said:
One of the guys who reviewed the Canadian unit, claims he only had two pins on his back cover so no wireless built in, unless LG/carriers change their mind before launch
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Link?
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Looks like the Canadian have that mc afee crap on them.. Odd that ours have it and the the US variants didnt?
Oh well.. Root and TIBU will make short work of that and the rest of the uneeded bloat.
Sadly as always Canadians have to wait till Aug while the AT&T guys already have the device.
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dgovil said:
One of the guys who reviewed the Canadian unit, claims he only had two pins on his back cover so no wireless built in, unless LG/carriers change their mind before launch
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Seem that the North American will not have the wireless built in finally?
So i suspect that the Canadians variant will be the same since at&t have generally the same device than rogers and bell....anyway we'll see...i'm on a decision if i will pull the trigger or not....
If i were to buy the device outright, would it be better to wait for it to come out in Canada or just buy an international/us version?
Firegrill said:
If i were to buy the device outright, would it be better to wait for it to come out in Canada or just buy an international/us version?
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the problem with the d-855 (international version) is that you will not be able to catch the lte network on att wich mean on robellus will be the same....sure it has the 700 frequency but not on the 17 band...IMO when your paying 600/700.00 for a phone like the g3, its a must to have LTE on it.....this is why you should wait for the Canadians variant or simply buy the at&t versions, wich gonna be the same..however the Canadians carrier don't have the bad habit to put their ugly logo on their phone wich is nice
Model was not same for AT&T and Robelus in case of G2. It was D803 for Robelus and I think D801 and D802 for US
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brar.arsh said:
Model was not same for AT&T and Robelus in case of G2. It was D803 for Robelus and I think D801 and D802 for US
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Yup.
Canada was D803
Att was D800
Tmo was D801
UK was D802
G2 was a great device i would still have mine if not for the limited on board storage.
I have high expectations for the G3 based on my experience with the G2. All these reviews im reading are not giving me a good feeling however.
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brar.arsh said:
Model was not same for AT&T and Robelus in case of G2. It was D803 for Robelus and I think D801 and D802 for US
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the at&t variant D800 was the exact same phone then the Canadians variant D803....the D801 variant is the exact same phone that videotron is using...its just a matter of frequency....this is why I beleave that the g3 at&t version D850 gonna be the exact same phone then the Canadians variant D852....with many band supported....the D850 is compatible on lte Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17, and 29....it gonna work even with the lte on T-Mobile...so

Samsung has released the GS7 and GS7edge unlocked for all USA carriers

http://news.samsung.com/us/2016/06/...roduces-unlocked-galaxy-s7-galaxy-s7-edge-us/
http://www.cnet.com/news/unlocked-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-come-to-us/
i just can't seem to find them on any site including samsungs
For what it's worth a Samsung rep in live chat told me they should be released by the end of the day
Would it be possible to flash the software of this unlocked variant to a carrier variant such as T-Mobile and effectively have an identical device?
According to The Verge:
The unlocked versions of the S7 and S7 Edge being sold in the US have the same hardware features as their carrier locked counterparts, including a Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 processor, 4GB of RAM, and 12-megapixel cameras. They are also water resistant and feature both fast charging and wireless charging. They also have support for Samsung Pay and full manufacturer warranties.
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So probably no root or unlocked bootloader. The only advantage is no carrier-specific bloat.
looks like the model is G930UZKAXAA
http://www.samsung.com/us/business/mobility/mobile-phones/SM-G930UZKAXAA
I'll be waiting to see if anyone is able to flash a recovery.img tar without getting flash fail from Odin. (Flashing G30F's should be ok, it won't boot at all, but just to see if the bootloader accepts the flash!)
If successful, I will build TWRP within a few hours of the confirmation.
Galaxy S7 USA
Samsung announce that USA S7/S7 Edge is shipping unlocked now
http://m.gsmarena.com/newscomm-19136.php
Maybe we will be able to unlock ours shortly
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ChristianBale said:
Would it be possible to flash the software of this unlocked variant to a carrier variant such as T-Mobile and effectively have an identical device?
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Nope. The carrier specific phones do not support the same LTE bands, and T-Mobile S7 likely won't get 4G speeds on Sprint b/c of that.
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CafeKampuchia said:
According to The Verge:
So probably no root or unlocked bootloader. The only advantage is no carrier-specific bloat.
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No carrier-specific bloat and full range of LTE bands that work on all US carriers as well as many world-wide carriers. This is huge for CDMA users like Sprint which were crippled from LTE bands working.
Anxiously awaiting someone posting a good deal on this beauty. Thanks in advance.
Boo! Fail, guess it's time to return
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Damn so still no custom roms.
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That's what I am getting out of it.
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Can't see rooting an S7. I'm in the US, have the 930F...too many negatives on resale for rooting and tripping Knox... I've got Samsung pay working, great battery and debloated with package disabler pro....
May get this new unlocked for my wife...the S7 is a great phone....
I wonder how this phone would work on Project Fi. Probably suffers from the same issue as other unsupported phones (can't switch between Sprint/T-mo).
whelmar said:
Can't see rooting an S7. I'm in the US, have the 930F...too many negatives on resale for rooting and tripping Knox... I've got Samsung pay working, great battery and debloated with package disabler pro....
May get this new unlocked for my wife...the S7 is a great phone....
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I chuckle a little bit when I read posts like this.
No disrespect intended, but you realize this is an XDA thread.
That's kinda what we do here.
Many of the features of that phone you're currently enjoying were added to it by the manufacturer as a result of all the rooting and modding of Android devices conducted by the community over the years.
pedro0223 said:
I wonder how this phone would work on Project Fi. Probably suffers from the same issue as other unsupported phones (can't switch between Sprint/T-mo).
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Just contacted Project Fi support and they say no support for new S7, Nexus phones are required. No idea if that will change but that's their story today.
phonepersonality said:
I chuckle a little bit when I read posts like this.
No disrespect intended, but you realize this is an XDA thread.
That's kinda what we do here.
Many of the features of that phone you're currently enjoying were added to it by the manufacturer as a result of all the rooting and modding of Android devices conducted by the community over the years.
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Yes, I realize it's an XDA thread... My nexus is my play around device... prior to Samsung putting knox on the devices, I used to root it and play like everyone else. Fact is, rooting the S7, tripping knox removes intended functionality and hurts resale...that's all I was conveying...
Cheers!
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According to The Verge:
So probably no root or unlocked bootloader. The only advantage is no carrier-specific bloat.
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But Carrier's lock bootloader, Samsung doesn't afaik? Or is this new with the US S7? The European S7 doesn't have a locked bootloader on its unlocked edition, why would they for the US? That'd be really close to discrimination.
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But Carrier's lock bootloader, Samsung doesn't afaik? Or is this new with the US S7? The European S7 doesn't have a locked bootloader on its unlocked edition, why would they for the US? That'd be really close to discrimination.
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Look at post #9 above. It's locked.
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ChristianBale said:
Would it be possible to flash the software of this unlocked variant to a carrier variant such as T-Mobile and effectively have an identical device?
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Nope. The carrier specific phones do not support the same LTE bands, and T-Mobile S7 likely won't get 4G speeds on Sprint b/c of that.
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While this answer is correct, the reason why is not.
All the US carrier variants are the same hardware-wise, which means that the hardware does support all the same bands but because the bootloader is locked you can't flash one variant to another.
The S7 is the first Samsung phone with a single hardware variant that supports all US carriers. As such all the US variants have also been assigned the same FCC ID. In previous Galaxy phones, each variant, because it had slightly different hardware (to support different bands) was required be tested separately for FCC approval then issued a separate FCC ID. However, starting with the S7, only one variant (using special testing firmware enabling all US bands simultaneously) was tested to receive FCC regulatory approval.

Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 North America Users Experience Discussion

I am opening this thread with the intention of enabling a discussion among the North American users (current/prospective).
It appears that Note 3 Pro (Snapdragon variant) is the logical choice for north american user, as it includes few of the 4G bands.
So, how is the network experience with the major cell phone carriers? Which firmware/rom includes those bands? AOSP/Global/China? Does VOLTE work?
I have been using the RN3P for the last couple weeks. I am in the Florida area in T-Mobile network, and really happy to see that I get 4G LTE most of the time. It's the band 4 according to the LTE Discovery app.
I have tried a bunch of different roms, including global stable, aosp and developer beta. I have observed that the network is much better with the developer MM roms. I am currently using the Epic ROM based on the developer rom, and I think I shall use it as my daily driver.
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Connected to LTE with Rogers and Koodo (Telus Band 4 AWS). I ordered the china model which shouldn't have included Band 4 (if you believe the information on all the china sellers sites), and confirmed it's not Kate model as it is only 150mm tall.
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Connected to LTE with Rogers and Koodo (Telus Band 4 AWS). I ordered the china model which shouldn't have included Band 4 (if you believe the information on all the china sellers sites), and confirmed it's not Kate model as it is only 150mm tall.
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That's good to know. There are so many variants of this device, it's really confusing. I ordered mine from Gearbest last week, who knows when it will show up. The problem with these Chinese retailers is that sometime they themselves don't know what they have. I guess I have to see what I get. I just hope that mine also supports band 4, which T-mobile in USA also uses.
Are you still using China firmware? Does the china model come with Google Playstore?
http://willmyphonework.net/
most networks will work on the note 3 Snapdragon version (kenzo).
the Kate or aka Note 3 Special Edition model supports a additional 'band 20' which afaik is not used in the USA (someone confirm?)
the Mediatek note 3 Hennessy most likely doesn't have good usa network support
so make sure you get the kenzo or kate model, though I would stick with kenzo since the kate doesn't have as good of support or accessories
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That's good to know. There are so many variants of this device, it's really confusing. I ordered mine from Gearbest last week, who knows when it will show up. The problem with these Chinese retailers is that sometime they themselves don't know what they have. I guess I have to see what I get. I just hope that mine also supports band 4, which T-mobile in USA also uses.
Are you still using China firmware? Does the china model come with Google Playstore?
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Mine came with Global 8.0.1.0 installed, prerooted, and unofficial bootloader unlock. I flashed official 8.0.1.0 global from tgz file, which then relocked the bootloader. I have done the official unlock with the same 8.0.1.0 official stable with no problems.
It came with Google Playstore, and some gapps (not all).
Anyone tried AOSP roms in north america? Does it also get the lte coverage?
I have heard privacy concerns from many people MIUI roms. May be rumors, may be not. But I don't wanna take the risk.
Can anyone compare the performance between MIUI and AOSP roms?
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How are your speeds on LTE? With tmobile, I'm rarely able to break 10mbps on my kenzo.
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How are your speeds on LTE? With tmobile, I'm rarely able to break 10mbps on my kenzo.
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I am yet to receive mine. Hopefully next week. :fingers-crossed:
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How are your speeds on LTE? With tmobile, I'm rarely able to break 10mbps on my kenzo.
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I have seen a video on youtube where he compared it with a iphone speed, and it got around 100mbps (the iphone beat it by a few mbps) , but it's definitely capable of fast speeds, though it probably depends on the network / bands, single strength and local isp speeds...
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I have seen a video on youtube where he compared it with a iphone speed, and it got around 100mbps (the iphone beat it by a few mbps) , but it's definitely capable of fast speeds, though it probably depends on the network / bands, single strength and local isp speeds...
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Signal is always strong when I test but it's always slow. Tested 2.5/1.1 earlier today with full bars. My settings are correct AFAIK. Would you happen to know which vid this was and by whom?
I was sent the mtk Hennessy and it isn't all that cool. I'm am going to try the umi super next
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I was sent the mtk Hennessy and it isn't all that cool. I'm am going to try the umi super next
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Boost is what works for lte on this version.
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I was sent the mtk Hennessy and it isn't all that cool. I'm am going to try the umi super next
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Boost is what works for lte on this version.
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I have on hand experience with Umi Super. Which carrier you are on? With T-mobile Umi Super had really poor data connection. Barely got 3g, I couldn't even stream a YouTube video. I don't think it has any north american band. It's a decent phone for the price, but do your research first.
In Florida with T-Mobile network, using band 4.
I recommend changing the default apn settings to fast.t-mobile.com one, which better result for me.
https://bestmvno.com/apn-settings/t-mobile-apn-settings/

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