When Nougat gets released for this phone in how ever long it takes do you think someone will eventually be able to root it on this phone?
Seriously?
joe3681 said:
Seriously?
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you don't have to be a douche
FreshIce21 said:
you don't have to be a douche
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You don't have to call him a douche. Honestly, I was thinking "Seriously?" as well because this is the first thing you think (rather, post of) before Nougat even comes out. We can't see the future, so this question will probably go without an indefinite answer. My input on it, though, is that root is possible if engboot still works, but if it doesn't then we're probably screwed. And I doubt engboot will work without having even MORE issues than it already does, if it even works at all.
But seriously, the name calling was unnecessary. You're the one asking the question, no need to call people names.
SkyAttacksX said:
You don't have to call him a douche. Honestly, I was thinking "Seriously?" as well because this is the first thing you think (rather, post of) before Nougat even comes out. We can't see the future, so this question will probably go without an indefinite answer. My input on it, though, is that root is possible if engboot still works, but if it doesn't then we're probably screwed. And I doubt engboot will work without having even MORE issues than it already does, if it even works at all.
But seriously, the name calling was unnecessary. You're the one asking the question, no need to call people names.
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thank you for your reply on your thoughts about it, thats all I was looking for. The person did not have to comment "seriously" he could have just ignore my post all together, I believe he was being a douche. The commenting of "seriously" was unnecessary. I appreciate your answer as I was just curious. Have a good day
Seriously?
FreshIce21 said:
When Nougat gets released for this phone in how ever long it takes do you think someone will eventually be able to root it on this phone?
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It'll come precisely 2 months, 1 week, 3 days, 10 hours, 30 minutes, 6 seconds and 83 milliseconds of nougat drop date
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So rooted MM or non-related Nougat... that will be the question
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I don't understand the reasoning behind the question. Nougat isn't even out yet. If you want root, then root your phone. If you want rooted Nougat, wait a couple days after release for someone to build a rooted ROM on it. Why would you want to flash back to stock just to root again instead of just flashing the rooted version from the beginning? I'm assuming that's why you got the "seriously?" reactions. Well, that and the fact that since Nougat hasn't even been released yet, so it's physically impossibly for anyone to know if it can be rooted. But yeah, I'd advise you to wait until someone uploads a rooted Nougat ROM for your phone instead if flashing back to stock and hoping to root that way. Its a million times easier to root it before putting it on your device
Based upon my understanding of how KNOX operates along with the stricter changes made to dm-verity in 7.0, I wouldn't hold my breath when it comes to rooting the S7. I know that the guys that come up with these rooting methods are very creative and smart, but KNOX, combined with SELinux, dm-verity, and locked bootloaders, is almost impossible to overcome. I've been looking at the people discussing the dirtyc0w exploit as an alternative root method, and I don't think it's possible to use it because of these safeguards.
We were extremely lucky with the leaked engboot method of rooting the S7. Without that, it's very possible that we still wouldn't have root on it.
Just a bit of addition to this conversation: It's likely our current root method won't work on Nougat. It depends on how different the kernels are, but since the engboot is built for MM there's no guarantee it's compatible with a new version. There's no guarantee it won't prevent flashing the engboot kernel once you're on it, and flashing a rooted system and then switching kernels won't help since the new kernel will verify the system.
I just really hope that we can get SuperSU on Nougat now that It has began to roll out today on my AT&T Galaxy S7. I've captured the ota update for it but someone else has already posted them on the forums so I won't waste my time. Despite how beautiful Nougat looks, I'm gonna wait and stick with MM. Why? Root. I'm almost certain that once you've updated to Nougat, it won't let you flash back to MM because of the locked bootloader, and for me personally, I want to keep root so bad because of the Viper4Android equalizer. The thing gives great sound quality and music wouldn't be the same without it. Honestly, If you really wanted to keep root then my advice is to stick with MM and wait (as long as it may take) for a working root method to come out for this new update.
Cheers!
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I just really hope that we can get SuperSU on Nougat now that It has began to roll out today on my AT&T Galaxy S7. I've captured the ota update for it but someone else has already posted them on the forums so I won't waste my time. Despite how beautiful Nougat looks, I'm gonna wait and stick with MM. Why? Root. I'm almost certain that once you've updated to Nougat, it won't let you flash back to MM because of the locked bootloader, and for me personally, I want to keep root so bad because of the Viper4Android equalizer. The thing gives great sound quality and music wouldn't be the same without it. Honestly, If you really wanted to keep root then my advice is to stick with MM and wait (as long as it may take) for a working root method to come out for this new update.
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You can downgrade back to MM. Both the updates are on bootloader v4.
KingOfTheNet said:
I just really hope that we can get SuperSU on Nougat now that It has began to roll out today on my AT&T Galaxy S7. I've captured the ota update for it but someone else has already posted them on the forums so I won't waste my time. Despite how beautiful Nougat looks, I'm gonna wait and stick with MM. Why? Root. I'm almost certain that once you've updated to Nougat, it won't let you flash back to MM because of the locked bootloader, and for me personally, I want to keep root so bad because of the Viper4Android equalizer. The thing gives great sound quality and music wouldn't be the same without it. Honestly, If you really wanted to keep root then my advice is to stick with MM and wait (as long as it may take) for a working root method to come out for this new update.
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Which V4A version are you using. I can't find one that works with my phone. I'm on APK1 stock rooted.
dirtydodge said:
Which V4A version are you using. I can't find one that works with my phone. I'm on APK1 stock rooted.
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I simply downloaded and am currently using the latest update from the developers website. Be sure to download the latest version of the app listed under "Viper4Android FX" and make sure BusyBox is properly installed on your device under /system/xbin or /system/bin. I was previously on APJ4 and just upgraded to APK1 today and haven't noticed any problems.
http://vipersaudio.com/blog/?page_id=48
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Got my new Note 4 on my doorstep. From a technical standpoint, the phone is nice. Pretty fast, nice screen. But I feel let down. I really hate the stock ROM. Running Nova helps. It makes it bearable. I really thought I would like the bigger screen. But the problem is everything is just enlarged. You don't actually have more screen real estate. I have had my GS4 running Cyanogen for quite a while now and I like it. On my new Note 4 I feel very disappointed. If there isn't a root in the next few days I may return it to the store and stick with my GS4.
There won't be a way to root for a long time or ever for that matter....sorry to burst your bubble. I would suggest doing your homework before buying a device for modding. The latest is no longer the greatest from that standpoint. That being said if you want root and do not care about future updates or warranty, the Developer Edition N4 will be out soon . the downfall is you must purchase it outright and there will not be much support for it. However it is unlocked and rootable.
I thought I could get used to it. After all TouchWiz has come a long way. Many people like it. The root for all the other carriers is out. And the talk is that once the stock recoveries are posted Chainfire will be able to get it part of CF-Auto-Root.
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I thought I could get used to it. After all TouchWiz has come a long way. Many people like it. The root for all the other carriers is out. And the talk is that once the stock recoveries are posted Chainfire will be able to get it part of CF-Auto-Root.
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That "talk" is wrong. cf-root works by flashing a modded recovery and installing supersu via custom scripts made by chainfire for his own personal stuff. since you guys have a locked bootloader that means you wont be flashing any recovery/boot partitions.
plus factor in L's new security and if you guys dont get root before the ota rolls out you may never get it.
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That "talk" is wrong. cf-root works by flashing a modded recovery and installing supersu via custom scripts made by chainfire for his own personal stuff. since you guys have a locked bootloader that means you wont be flashing any recovery/boot partitions.
plus factor in L's new security and if you guys dont get root before the ota rolls out you may never get it.
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Damn...guess I have no choice but to sell my note 4 and get the DevEd.
Anyone tried towelroot by @geohot ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157 That's what's working for the VZW GS5
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plus factor in L's new security and if you guys dont get root before the ota rolls out you may never get it.
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whats "L's" because the N4 is KK if that refers to Lollipop.
i cant tell you how many times i have had a phone that gets the dreaded "you wont see root for a long time if ever" and then within weeks (tops) we have root.
i would be willing to wager that before Dec and probably earlier there will be root for this N4
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whats "L's" because the N4 is KK if that refers to Lollipop.
i cant tell you how many times i have had a phone that gets the dreaded "you wont see root for a long time if ever" and then within weeks (tops) we have root.
i would be willing to wager that before Dec and probably earlier there will be root for this N4
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I'm really hoping you're right...
fletch33 said:
whats "L's" because the N4 is KK if that refers to Lollipop.
i cant tell you how many times i have had a phone that gets the dreaded "you wont see root for a long time if ever" and then within weeks (tops) we have root.
i would be willing to wager that before Dec and probably earlier there will be root for this N4
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I didnt say you wouldnt ever get root, just that when it finally gets updated to L you can kiss all chances of getting root then goodbye. i imagine someone has an exploit they are waiting to drop and see if its patched in 5.0 whether or not it becomes public is entirely up to them at that point. as it stands that is your best shot at a 4.4 root.
i dont know what OP is talking about i have 100s of apps on this thing and still flying like butta!!!
pmterp said:
Anyone tried towelroot by @geohot ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157 That's what's working for the VZW GS5
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Tell me how that goes!
Towel root will not work. The app itself says the note 4 isnt a capable device. Maybe geohot just has to include it, but i wouldnt get your hopes up
There well be a root method within the next week or so. The bootloader will never be unlocked on this phone. Hashtag was the safestrap guru. If someone picked up the reins from him, then we'll likely get a way to flash roms and recovery. Personally, all I want is root to take some of this crap off the phone. I'm done with flashing ROMs.
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Anyone tried towelroot by @geohot ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157 That's what's working for the VZW GS5
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I tried it, no go. Luckily it tells you that the phone isn't supported instead of just screwing it up.
I'm going to take the 12 days I have left to pray for root if not I'm going to see what I can do with a Bluetooth stylus and a nexus 6. I'm upgrading from a note 2 running Aosp Roms. I had the phone for less then an hour before it was rooted and unlocked I ran beans Roms at first but my need to be on the newest version of Android and dislike of touchwiz I found aosp Roms with apps like GMD spen control great. Currently with the N4 I miss the custom gestures to open evernote and ime switch
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alprazolam said:
There well be a root method within the next week or so. The bootloader will never be unlocked on this phone. Hashtag was the safestrap guru. If someone picked up the reins from him, then we'll likely get a way to flash roms and recovery. Personally, all I want is root to take some of this crap off the phone. I'm done with flashing ROMs.
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I like your optimism, but look at what happened to the S5 when it arrived. Took a lot more than the 2 week return window to achieve root. I'm still hedging between this phone and the Xperia, but seems like either way root will not be there quickly.
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I like your optimism, but look at what happened to the S5 when it arrived. Took a lot more than the 2 week return window to achieve root. I'm still hedging between this phone and the Xperia, but seems like either way root will not be there quickly.
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Although the S5 root method doesn't work for the N4, it gives devs a head start.
Surprisingly, I am liking TouchWiz and so far haven't replaced the launcher yet. First time I am not running nova on a phone.
le0.br4zuc4 said:
Surprisingly, I am liking TouchWiz and so far haven't replaced the launcher yet. First time I am not running nova on a phone.
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I agree, it's not terrible and not nearly as laggy as early phones were. I still use Apex so I can use icon and theme packs and make better use of screen size. All in all, if root never came, I'd be content enough to deal... it would be nice for Adaway, Titanium and Xposed though. I'll put my money down soon and see. I'm betting we get root sooner than later.
If root, or more importantly, flashing roms is that important to the OP, then why don't you go with t-mobile? Their Note 4 has an unlocked bootloader. Like another said, do your homework beforehand.
My phone is on the way. It's perfectly timed with the imminent update to Marshmallow.
My plan is to get the OTA update first, and then root the phone. Can I still rely on the existing guides to root the phone? Or would I have to wait until root becomes discovered/available again on the new OS version?
You should be able to root it but we really won't know until the OTA arrives.
I've had the phone for a few days now, and happily I've received the 6.0 update OTA.
Is there any current info how whether Heisenberg's rooting guide still works? (completely, partially, ???)
nibunnoichi said:
I've had the phone for a few days now, and happily I've received the 6.0 update OTA.
Is there any current info how whether Heisenberg's rooting guide still works? (completely, partially, ???)
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yea root works if you read some more you have 2 options to root
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yea root works if you read some more you have 2 options to root
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The only 6.0 root option I've found is the systemless root.
What is the other? Is there regular root for 6.0?
I have not found a thread on that. I have only been reading for a few days, tho.
My MXPE arrives Thursday! I would like to use it some, before having to root, but I am certain the 6.0 OTA update will be soon to show.
Is there a way to stop the OTA, prior to bootoader unock and root?
Do I just need to unlock/root/flash ROM right away?
I have not even picked a ROM yet.
pizza_pablo said:
The only 6.0 root option I've found is the systemless root.
What is the other? Is there regular root for 6.0?
I have not found a thread on that. I have only been reading for a few days, tho.
My MXPE arrives Thursday! I would like to use it some, before having to root, but I am certain the 6.0 OTA update will be soon to show.
Is there a way to stop the OTA, prior to bootoader unock and root?
Do I just need to unlock/root/flash ROM right away?
I have not even picked a ROM yet.
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You flash SuperSU 2.52 + boot_root img. TruePureX rom has already built in Root,also sabissimos rom as well. Just pick rooted one or TruePure
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You flash SuperSU 2.52 + boot_root img. TruePureX rom has already built in Root,also sabissimos rom as well. Just pick rooted one or TruePure
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TruePureX is actually one of the ROMs I was thinking of flashing.
So, if I take the 6.0 update, I can still root in a relatively normal way?
systemless root does not sound like a path I wish to take.
How does the OTA come to this device? A Moto app, I presume?
Does Moto ram it down one's throat, like verizon?
I was just reading on the moto forum, about simply unlocking the bootloader will stop the OTA. I haven't finished the thread, but others were skeptical.
pizza_pablo said:
TruePureX is actually one of the ROMs I was thinking of flashing.
So, if I take the 6.0 update, I can still root in a relatively normal way?
systemless root does not sound like a path I wish to take.
How does the OTA come to this device? A Moto app, I presume?
Does Moto ram it down one's throat, like verizon?
I was just reading on the moto forum, about simply unlocking the bootloader will stop the OTA. I haven't finished the thread, but others were skeptical.
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I have tried both OTA and the stock rooted rom that is here in the development section, there are users who have had great success using the SU version 2.62...I personally have used 2.62, then 2.64 with great success...I have not used the system-less SU in these cases (although I have tested previously and they also worked)
so, feel free to flash the stock rom found in the development section, then flash 2.6(whatever works for you)...none of what I state is an endorsement of one rom over another, as all members here have contributed great efforts to get us this stuff...:good:
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I have tried both OTA and the stock rooted rom that is here in the development section, there are users who have had great success using the SU version 2.62...I personally have used 2.62, then 2.64 with great success...I have not used the system-less SU in these cases (although I have tested previously and they also worked)
so, feel free to flash the stock rom found in the development section, then flash 2.6(whatever works for you)...none of what I state is an endorsement of one rom over another, as all members here have contributed great efforts to get us this stuff...:good:
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I am not really following....I think you are saying that the ROMs are safe.
Are you saying that a "regular" root method, for 6.0 OTA is available and stable and I shouldn't be worried about taking the 6.0 OTA?
If I were to take the 6.0 OTA, could I get back to 5.1, since unlocked bootloader is available?
Could this be done with the return to stock tool, even after 6.0?
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I am not really following....I think you are saying that the ROMs are safe.
Are you saying that a "regular" root method, for 6.0 OTA is available and stable and I shouldn't be worried about taking the 6.0 OTA?
If I were to take the 6.0 OTA, could I get back to 5.1, since unlocked bootloader is available?
Could this be done with the return to stock tool, even after 6.0?
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My point is, if you are rooted and unlocked, why take the OTA if you could just flash the 6.0 stock rom? why would you want to go back to 5.1?
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My point is, if you are rooted and unlocked, why take the OTA if you could just flash the 6.0 stock rom? why would you want to go back to 5.1?
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I just want to learn what I can, before I start doing anything. I've read much, but I'm still confused as to what is possible and what is not. I've not had a phone this new, with the capability of unlocking the bootloader.
I believe that if the MXPE is on 5.1.1 when I fire it up, it will soon want to install the update.
I would like some time with the phone before I have to jump into unlocking and rooting, but I don't think I'll have it, so I would like to be prepared.
Did they lock the bootloader in 6.0?
I'm in the same boat as the op. Seems like there's no clear tutorial or anything. I just want stock with everything included (factory) 6.0 with xposed and root. I didn't even see a flashable stock MM zip with root anywhere.
20degrees said:
Did they lock the bootloader in 6.0?
I'm in the same boat as the op. Seems like there's no clear tutorial or anything. I just want stock with everything included (factory) 6.0 with xposed and root. I didn't even see a flashable stock MM zip with root anywhere.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...rom-stock-rooted-debloated-x1575-6-0-t3262242 here is stock in several flavors...if you do not have root, there are several options to try...systemless, or the latest beta SU's...some have stated that version 2.62 has been good for them...I have tried 2.62 and have also flashed 2.64 and both worked for me. Do some reading in these threads, plenty of guidance and info already about these issues.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...rom-stock-rooted-debloated-x1575-6-0-t3262242 here is stock in several flavors...if you do not have root, there are several options to try...systemless, or the latest beta SU's...some have stated that version 2.62 has been good for them...I have tried 2.62 and have also flashed 2.64 and both worked for me. Do some reading in these threads, plenty of guidance and info already about these issues.
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Believe me, when I say that I AM reading. I had shoulder surgery, last Wednesday, so I've got time on my hands. How else do you think I ended up finding and buying a relatively new Motorola, with unlockable bootloader?
There is just so much info and while reading, I keep going down rabbit trails of other interesting things to know about rooting it, but may not be the most important question I have. I read the entire thread on the (De)Odex Stock / Rooted / Debloated 6.0 MPH24.49-18, last night and am still confused.
It just seems to be unclear whether or not 6.0 is fully rooted and if there is any going back, once you're there.
I am leery, because if the Note 3, in safestrap. Once a LP ROM was flashed there was no going back to KitKat, even tho, early on, many stated that it was possible.
I've been away from Motorola rooting, since my RAZR M. I don't recall all the PC steps.
pizza_pablo said:
Believe me, when I say that I AM reading. I had shoulder surgery, last Wednesday, so I've got time on my hands. How else do you think I ended up finding and buying a relatively new Motorola, with unlockable bootloader?
There is just so much info and while reading, I keep going down rabbit trails of other interesting things to know about rooting it, but may not be the most important question I have. I read the entire thread on the (De)Odex Stock / Rooted / Debloated 6.0 MPH24.49-18, last night and am still confused.
It just seems to be unclear whether or not 6.0 is fully rooted and if there is any going back, once you're there.
I am leery, because if the Note 3, in safestrap. Once a LP ROM was flashed there was no going back to KitKat, even tho, early on, many stated that it was possible.
I've been away from Motorola rooting, since my RAZR M. I don't recall all the PC steps.
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6.0 is rooted...see attached
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6.0 is rooted...see attached
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I believe that 6.0 is rooted.
My question is how.
Which root methods are available?
Is systemless the only choice?
What is the exact (step by step) flash order?
Once the 6.0 OTA is taken, is it possible to go back to 5.1.1 stock or rooted, if desired?
here are my offerings to your questions...
My question is how.
Which root methods are available? SU silly!
Is systemless the only choice? No -- (note my previous screenshot is not systemless and is beta 2.64) see my previous posts on this
What is the exact (step by step) flash order? see this link, http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/xt1572-mm-twrp-root-xposed-t3276792 but note it is for the 1572 device, steps are the same...you will need the 1575 Stock rom found here instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...rom-stock-rooted-debloated-x1575-6-0-t3262242
Once the 6.0 OTA is taken, is it possible to go back to 5.1.1 stock or rooted, if desired? look in this thread, but start with this post...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64463125&postcount=179
here are my responses to your offerings to my questions...
My question is how.
Which root methods are available? SU silly! yeah, I meant traditional or systemless, silly
Is systemless the only choice? No -- (note my previous screenshot is not systemless and is beta 2.64) see my previous posts on this got it, thanks!
What is the exact (step by step) flash order? see this link, http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/xt1572-mm-twrp-root-xposed-t3276792 but note it is for the 1572 device, steps are the same...you will need the 1575 Stock rom found here instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...rom-stock-rooted-debloated-x1575-6-0-t3262242 ok, I've read most of the second link
Once the 6.0 OTA is taken, is it possible to go back to 5.1.1 stock or rooted, if desired? look in this thread, but start with this post...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64463125&postcount=179[/QUOTE] I've read most of this one, too.
I really appreciate you hanging with me, thru my confusion and apprehension!
Hey guys, I have been out of the android world for a couple of years, I would appreciate some guidance.
I I'm currently living in US
T-mobil
Model number: SM-G935T
Android version: 6.0.1
Updated right now
So my question is, since I don't have any backup or anything, can someone provide me with the steps to get me started? Like what post to root it on this specific carrier and how everything? please
Thanks
Arturofm2 said:
Hey guys, I have been out of the android world for a couple of years, I would appreciate some guidance.
I I'm currently living in US
T-mobil
Model number: SM-G935T
Android version: 6.0.1
Updated right now
So my question is, since I don't have any backup or anything, can someone provide me with the steps to get me started? Like what post to root it on this specific carrier and how everything? please
Thanks
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Of course we can get your started but see
But first you must answer us these question three.
Why do you want root?
Do you have a computer? (This is a must for root.)
Are you ready to be disappointed?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/how-to-root-s7-edge-t3410470
follow this (use odin to flash rooted kernel) ......you should search before posting things like this.....google is your friend bro.
GOOD LUCK - BTW use flash fire app in play store to make backups and flash roms
Okay okay.
A quick glance at T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion would have led you to the "How to root the S7 EDGE" thread.
I'd take a look in there if I were you.
Binary100100 said:
Of course we can get your started but see
But first you must answer us these question three.
Why do you want root?
Do you have a computer? (This is a must for root.)
Are you ready to be disappointed?
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Well while I was waiting I just rooted it. So what do you think that would be the next step towards installing a rom? To answer your survey questions :laugh: :
1- Because a phone without being rooted is like a bird without wins.
2- I do
3- Oh well... tell me more
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Well while I was waiting I just rooted it. So what do you think that would be the next step towards installing a rom? To answer your survey questions :laugh: :
1- Because a phone without being rooted is like a bird without wins.
2- I do
3- Oh well... tell me more
EDIT: I just checked and the root didn't go through... even though ODIN said it was successful
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Well then.
Rooting the phone (as I'm sure you had already found out) was fairly easy.
BUT... since we do not have an unlocked bootloader then we cannot have any custom recovery. Which means we can only (for now) use adb and Fireflash to flash any custom firmwares. And while we're on the subject of that... there is only one custom rom. Well... technically there are two but only one for you since you updated to the latest firmware.
Echoe ROM which was updated (ummm...) September 9th (not including the Verizon version which might work but with no promises)
Tekxv2 which was updated back in July. Unfortunately, that is flashed by adb (computer required) and only supports G935TUVS3APD8 which is... pretty old.
Things that you may notice with root.
Battery life may be shorter.
Strange icons on your status bar.
Might start to have random reboots for absolutely no reason.
Can't use Samsung Pay and some other apps.
Phone might be laggy.
Phone might feel hot.
Some of those can be resolved by flashing the only custom rom that we have (Echoe ROM... which is a rather nice rom) but it's not "there" yet.
Or you can use the guide in my signature to resolve issues like the lag and the strange icons. Yet even after the "fix" you might still experience both again from time to time.
You might even have the IMS force close issue which I used to get about once a month. It would piss me off because no sooner that you click the button, it'll pop up again and you don't have time to do anything. You're pretty much forced to reflash stock, wipe, re-root, restore a latest backup... which can take hours and is rather inconvenient if it happens to you while you're at work like it always seemed to happen for me.
SO...
All in all... root is okay. It's better than nothing I suppose. But until we get more developer support for this phone then in my opinion it's kinda pointless in my opinion.
Too many drawbacks. I eventually unrooted two weeks ago and I love my phone now. I'm using the heck out of Samsung Pay especially since their promotions are pretty nice right now! Plus a few members are testing the Nouget update which probably won't be getting root at all since rooting requires an engineering kernel which we don't have and might not get. Or an unlocked bootloader which we've pretty much given up on.
A lot of members that are testing the Nouget beta firmware are extremely satisfied with it so if we can't root Nouget then having a rooted S7 will probably fade away as more people update to Android 7+. That's where I see this going anyway.
Binary100100 said:
What you wrote above
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So for what I understood the dev support for this phone is very limited... I know the issues I may encounter, I had them with the galaxy note. but any way... If something I'll unroot it but I want to try it out Thank for you time. I've rooted it.
EDIT: Damn... I really don't like the visual style of Echoe... is that one the only one I can flash??
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Well then.
Rooting the phone (as I'm sure you had already found out) was fairly easy.
BUT... since we do not have an unlocked bootloader then we cannot have any custom recovery. Which means we can only (for now) use adb and Fireflash to flash any custom firmwares. And while we're on the subject of that... there is only one custom rom. Well... technically there are two but only one for you since you updated to the latest firmware.
Echoe ROM which was updated (ummm...) September 9th (not including the Verizon version which might work but with no promises)
Tekxv2 which was updated back in July. Unfortunately, that is flashed by adb (computer required) and only supports G935TUVS3APD8 which is... pretty old.
Things that you may notice with root.
Battery life may be shorter.
Strange icons on your status bar.
Might start to have random reboots for absolutely no reason.
Can't use Samsung Pay and some other apps.
Phone might be laggy.
Phone might feel hot.
Some of those can be resolved by flashing the only custom rom that we have (Echoe ROM... which is a rather nice rom) but it's not "there" yet.
Or you can use the guide in my signature to resolve issues like the lag and the strange icons. Yet even after the "fix" you might still experience both again from time to time.
You might even have the IMS force close issue which I used to get about once a month. It would piss me off because no sooner that you click the button, it'll pop up again and you don't have time to do anything. You're pretty much forced to reflash stock, wipe, re-root, restore a latest backup... which can take hours and is rather inconvenient if it happens to you while you're at work like it always seemed to happen for me.
SO...
All in all... root is okay. It's better than nothing I suppose. But until we get more developer support for this phone then in my opinion it's kinda pointless in my opinion.
Too many drawbacks. I eventually unrooted two weeks ago and I love my phone now. I'm using the heck out of Samsung Pay especially since their promotions are pretty nice right now! Plus a few members are testing the Nouget update which probably won't be getting root at all since rooting requires an engineering kernel which we don't have and might not get. Or an unlocked bootloader which we've pretty much given up on.
A lot of members that are testing the Nouget beta firmware are extremely satisfied with it so if we can't root Nouget then having a rooted S7 will probably fade away as more people update to Android 7+. That's where I see this going anyway.
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How are you doing with the ads? Like youtube, pandora, spotify? I just installed xposed and the phone feels very hot, and If I unroot it (which I'm thinking to do) I won't be able to get things without ads (I know about vpns and browsers). Also how can I install teaks for apps? Installing apks from pages that promise you this and you have to log in is very untruthful. Any suggestions to all this?
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How are you doing with the ads? Like youtube, pandora, spotify? I just installed xposed and the phone feels very hot, and If I unroot it (which I'm thinking to do) I won't be able to get things without ads (I know about vpns and browsers). Also how can I install teaks for apps? Installing apks from pages that promise you this and you have to log in is very untruthful. Any suggestions to all this?
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I just put up with them.
In all reality, I don't use my phone for the purposes that require my viewing of ads to begin with.
Sure when I was rooted I had adblocker. But honestly, I had completely forgotten all about that benefit of being rooted until now.
I suppose if you absolutely need to be rid of ads then by all means, retain root. However ads don't effect my daily use one bit.
Binary100100 said:
I just put up with them.
In all reality, I don't use my phone for the purposes that require my viewing of ads to begin with.
Sure when I was rooted I had adblocker. But honestly, I had completely forgotten all about that benefit of being rooted until now.
I suppose if you absolutely need to be rid of ads then by all means, retain root. However ads don't effect my daily use one bit.
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Could you help me unroot it? I was following a guide here to unroot it and downloaded the firmware but when I click flash, it didn't work, I'm having travel reverting it, can you help me? The model is: SM-G935T
Arturofm2 said:
Could you help me unroot it? I was following a guide here to unroot it and downloaded the firmware but when I click flash, it didn't work, I'm having travel reverting it, can you help me? The model is: SM-G935T
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I just flash the appropriate firmware that you had prior to rooting with ODIN.
Never had any issues. Which "guide" are you referring to?
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I just flash the appropriate firmware that you had prior to rooting with ODIN.
Never had any issues. Which "guide" are you referring to?
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bro now I'm friking out, I followed this guide and when I click in flash it says Fail. I followed it step by step, I don't don't what's going on and when I reset the phone it says custom and doesn't even load, so tmobil would know that I rooted it...
fff.... can you give me the link, guide, whatever you used to revert it?
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bro now I'm friking out, I followed this guide and when I click in flash it says Fail. I followed it step by step, I don't don't what's going on and when I reset the phone it says custom and doesn't even load, so tmobil would know that I rooted it...
fff.... can you give me the link, guide, whatever you used to revert it?
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You're probably trying to flash a firmware with a V3 bootloader over G935TTMB4APK1.
If you were seriously following that (outdated) guide step by step then you tried flashing TMB_G935TUVU3APG1.zip over a PK1 firmware. Yeah... that doesn't work.
Download the latest firmware from sammmobile.
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G935T/
Try it again.
IF that doesn't work... try using Smart Switch.
I haven't done it before but I think it's the Emergency Software Recovery and Initialization.
forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/odin-apk1-tmobile-tmbg935ttmb4apk1-t3494724
Odin this to return to stock firmware.
Binary100100 said:
You're probably trying to flash a firmware with a V3 bootloader over G935TTMB4APK1.
If you were seriously following that (outdated) guide step by step then you tried flashing TMB_G935TUVU3APG1.zip over a PK1 firmware. Yeah... that doesn't work.
Download the latest firmware from sammobile.
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G935T/
Try it again.
IF that doesn't work... try using Smart Switch.
I haven't done it before but I think it's the Emergency Software Recovery and Initialization.
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You have no idea the help you gave me. I went to sammobil before but since it said that the download speed was too slow, I didn't do it through that page. Now I did it and it's working fine thanks bro.
But when I start it, it says: custom in the log in, how can I totally put it original?
tduquefjc said:
forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/odin-apk1-tmobile-tmbg935ttmb4apk1-t3494724
Odin this to return to stock firmware.
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If I want to remove everything and just leave it plain how it comes from factory when you buy it, do I just flash the AP file?
Arturofm2 said:
You have no idea the help you gave me. I went to sammobil before but since it said that the download speed was too slow, I kept it. Now I did it and it's working fine thanks bro.
But when I start it, it says: custom in the log in, how can I totally put it original?
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If I want to remove everything and just leave it plain how it comes from factory when you buy it, do I just flash the AP file?
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You should flash everything.
BL= Bootloader (which should be V4 since you updated to the latest firmware already. Anything less than V4 will fail.)
AP= Is for System, Cache, kernel, etc.
CP= Is for modems
CSC is for your HOME_CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 file.
Important! If you use the CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 (doesn't have the word "HOME" in the name) then it'll wipe your phone!
If your phone still says "CUSTOM" on it then make sure that reboot and check again. If it still says custom then make sure that you don't still have the engineering kernel. Re-flash the AP files again if so. It shouldn't though if it's 100% stock. Also note if you saw the unlocked padlock on the S7 Edge splash screen (before the bootanimation).
Good luck and happy New Year.
Binary100100 said:
You should flash everything.
BL= Bootloader (which should be V4 since you updated to the latest firmware already. Anything less than V4 will fail.)
AP= Is for System, Cache, kernel, etc.
CP= Is for modems
CSC is for your HOME_CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 file.
Important! If you use the CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 (doesn't have the word "HOME" in the name) then it'll wipe your phone!
If your phone still says "CUSTOM" on it then make sure that reboot and check again. If it still says custom then make sure that you don't still have the engineering kernel. Re-flash the AP files again if so. It shouldn't though if it's 100% stock. Also note if you saw the unlocked padlock on the S7 Edge splash screen (before the bootanimation).
Good luck and happy New Year.
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Perfect! All I did was reboot it, and the unlocked padlock went away, thank you very much for all your help! Happy new year!
Let me start off by saying i appreciate all the developers who put in the hard work to make root and such possible. I could not imagine the frustration they go through.
So my question is about the future of this phones development, I feel like as of December 31 2016 that the chances of root are only for those with builds with/under pd8 (as far as I'm aware) (I am running PK1) everyone above pd8 build is SoL. So my question, is there any chance we will see full root for those of us on the newer builds? Also with the talks of the Nougat update around the corner will root be harder to achieve seeing as its new firmware and developers haven't had much time digging into it? My reason for wanting root is to have xposed running, viper4android and be able to debloat it. Forgive my ignorance but does it feel like the s7e development is stuck? I feel like maybe I would get a better experience if I traded in s7e for a device that has more stable development. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, if anything I just want to be informed.
isaac970 said:
Let me start off by saying i appreciate all the developers who put in the hard work to make root and such possible. I could not imagine the frustration they go through.
So my question is about the future of this phones development, I feel like as of December 31 2016 that the chances of root are only for those with builds with/under pd8 (as far as I'm aware) (I am running PK1) everyone above pd8 build is SoL. So my question, is there any chance we will see full root for those of us on the newer builds? Also with the talks of the Nougat update around the corner will root be harder to achieve seeing as its new firmware and developers haven't had much time digging into it? My reason for wanting root is to have xposed running, viper4android and be able to debloat it. Forgive my ignorance but does it feel like the s7e development is stuck? I feel like maybe I would get a better experience if I traded in s7e for a device that has more stable development. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, if anything I just want to be informed.
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Nothing sure what kind of answer you're looking for that you wouldn't already know.
We only have root due to an engineering kernel.
Android 7 requires a different kernel. So we can't use it.
So unless we get a leaked engineering kernel for Android 7 then we will have to see if we can unlock the bootloader or discover some other kind of exploit. But I'm sure you already knew all of that.
The s7 is pretty much dead, are only hope is that a dev finds an exploit and capitalizes or an inside man leaks a file for Nougat.
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The s7 is pretty much dead, are only hope is that a dev finds an exploit and capitalizes or an inside man leaks a file for Nougat.
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I just got CM14 (Nougat) on my Note 4, it made it into a whole new device way better than the laggy S7Edge. Here's hope that Nougat has some exploit and we can root it. CM14 is so smooth.
Root is supposed to work thru pk1 with eng kernel. When I update to official 7.x I am going to leave bootloader as is so I can still root.
I am not impressed that much with the new rom and hate the user interface, so I may go back to rooted 6.0 until if and when 7.x is rooted.
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gaww said:
Root is supposed to work thru pk1 with eng kernel. When I update to official 7.x I am going to leave bootloader as is so I can still root.
I am not impressed that much with the new rom and hate the user interface, so I may go back to rooted 6.0 until if and when 7.x is rooted.
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you may not be able to bootup android 7 with a MM bootloader. I ran into this problem in the past with my older notes. I couldn't get MM to work on a LP bootloader. It would awesome if someone could pull out the Beta nougat BL so we could revert it ends up being a problem.
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you may not be able to bootup android 7 with a MM bootloader. I ran into this problem in the past with my older notes. I couldn't get MM to work on a LP bootloader. It would awesome if someone could pull out the Beta nougat BL so we could revert it ends up being a problem.
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Before I went back to stock to get the beta on the second phase, I went to stock Verizon and flashed their beta.
I was able to revert to stock tmo pk1, so am hoping that will be possible with the official 7.0 also, as that bootloader in rootable.
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Before I went back to stock to get the beta on the second phase, I went to stock Verizon and flashed their beta.
I was able to revert to stock tmo pk1, so am hoping that will be possible with the official 7.0 also, as that bootloader in rootable.
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it was also BETA so they purposely could let you revert back if you didn't like the bugs ons BETA. that's why I said would be awesome if someone could pull the BETA boatloader so you have best of both worlds(pending on if they the official update wont boot up with a MM BL)
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it was also BETA so they purposely could let you revert back if you didn't like the bugs ons BETA. that's why I said would be awesome if someone could pull the BETA boatloader so you have best of both worlds(pending on if they the official update wont boot up with a MM BL)
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If we can't revert back to a bootable mm and that us no sign of a rootable nouget, I may just kiss thus device good by and get a 935f.
Chen has multiboot working on it plus, he has a 7.0 Rom with Wi-Fi calling working. I may have to give up some tmo network features, but given that they have no plans to get the higher speed frequencies where I live, there is not much that I will be loosing out on.
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If we can't revert back to a bootable mm and that us no sign of a rootable nouget, I may just kiss thus device good by and get a 935f.
Chen has multiboot working on it plus, he has a 7.0 Rom with Wi-Fi calling working. I may have to give up some tmo network features, but given that they have no plans to get the higher speed frequencies where I live, there is not much that I will be loosing out on.
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I was thinking the same thing, what all features would you lose? obviously t mobile bloat and wifi calling. what LTE bands would we lose?
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I was thinking the same thing, what all features would you lose? obviously t mobile bloat and wifi calling. what LTE bands would we lose?
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Would not loose WiFi calling - it is working in Chen's 935f ROM. I think we loose band 12 and possibly another, bit not sure.
The best way would be to ask him - but am going to search his threads before I ask.
I am currently rooted with MM on my S7-Edge, SM-G935A and yesterday I got the notification from AT&T that it wanted to update my phone to the newest version of Android, Version 7 (Nougat).
I thought about UN-Rooting my phone and let the OTA finish the process and complete the upgrade. But after looking around there isn't a stable version for Root on Nougat yet for the AT&T Phone, so I think I going to wait.
But my question is if I just let OTA update the phone without Un-Rooting it, what would happen to the phone. Would it just become Un-Rooted and be an Updated Android 7.0? Or would there be problems? I can say for sure that I would not do this as I like having Root Access and I don't think I would like living without Root. But I was just curious what would really happen?
I only have one phone and don't want to mess it up, but there are a lot of people on these forums that experiment with phones all the time.
Anyway, just a question for all of you in the know.
Judging from what happened with a minor update on my at the time rooted s6e, it'll just error out before anything is done due to the engboot not being what it expects.
It checks the hashes of that file and a lot of others before applying the update from what I can tell
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Judging from what happened with a minor update on my at the time rooted s6e, it'll just error out before anything is done due to the engboot not being what it expects.
It checks the hashes of that file and a lot of others before applying the update from what I can tell
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Thanks for the reply. That is what I expected. I am not going to try this but like I said just curious. And you answered my question.
Again thanks.
Yup it wouldn't update.
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