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Now that bump has gone is it worth getting a nexus 6?

Cuz bump has gone and the devs aren't signing boot images I'm guessing custom ROMs will fall on this device and I am a heavy custom romer if that's a word ahahah always changing ROMs to try new ones, I bought this not knowing there would be a boot unlocked coming and wondering if the nexus 6 would be better for custom ROMs ? I know this is a g3 specific section and don't want a fight just wondering and need some help thanks

I've been wondering about the future of ROM's myself since this whole thing went down. However, there still is "Open Bump", but I'd actually feel terrible using it. Seems like it would just be a slap in the face to Team CodeFire. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens from now on. I'm happy that I just got Lollipop on my vs985, but worried about future development :/

ryand274 said:
Cuz bump has gone and the devs aren't signing boot images I'm guessing custom ROMs will fall on this device and I am a heavy custom romer if that's a word ahahah always changing ROMs to try new ones, I bought this not knowing there would be a boot unlocked coming and wondering if the nexus 6 would be better for custom ROMs ? I know this is a g3 specific section and don't want a fight just wondering and need some help thanks
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At somepoint, if yoi xan afford it, then go for it .
My opinion
G3 ia good device but i believe snapdragon 801 wasnt meant for 2k display..805 will handle it better..yes there is bump(thanks to respected dev :')), but still it all depends on out rom devs who give their precious time amd develop roms for us.. G3 will have less than nexus6 thats for sure..nexus 6 will enjoy official support from all custom rom teams like cm/PA, while we quite arent yet..
So changing to nexus can be good(if you dont mind nexus UI, coz am using cm12 and am loving it ),. You will loose all g3 goodness though..that awesome camera with lasee focus,compact bazel screen body and all.. But it shouldnt bother you if you arent big time photographer and as you mentioned you are big time CUSTOM ROAMER(that should br a word, hmm..sounds cool ..we gotta ask oxford to ask it and make it official,hahaha)
Nexus 6 might sound all new and cool and almost same price of g3 but it might have its own limitations too.
No optimus ui
No laser focus
Too big pahblet screen
Okay-ish camera many says
No extra features as will have stock android only
Pros-
Nexus so latest google updates
Snapdragon 805+ 2k screen is actually good combination, thats the reason we also have an 805 version of g3 in korea..(still its not good on benchmarks, dont know why)
Screen is amoled
Official custom rom teams support
Blah blah
So choose your poison..
If i was at your place, i would have been confused too, i would have tried the device in hand once(its performace and handeling of 2k display), and then go for it.
I dont think its design is issur for you, coz you wouldnt have asked it if you would have hated moto x type design of nexus 6(as many do hate)
Good luck mate

raghavsharmaxda said:
At somepoint, if yoi xan afford it, then go for it .
My opinion
G3 ia good device but i believe snapdragon 801 wasnt meant for 2k display..805 will handle it better..yes there is bump(thanks to respected dev :')), but still it all depends on out rom devs who give their precious time amd develop roms for us.. G3 will have less than nexus6 thats for sure..nexus 6 will enjoy official support from all custom rom teams like cm/PA, while we quite arent yet..
So changing to nexus can be good(if you dont mind nexus UI, coz am using cm12 and am loving it ),. You will loose all g3 goodness though..that awesome camera with lasee focus,compact bazel screen body and all.. But it shouldnt bother you if you arent big time photographer and as you mentioned you are big time CUSTOM ROAMER(that should br a word, hmm..sounds cool ..we gotta ask oxford to ask it and make it official,hahaha)
Nexus 6 might sound all new and cool and almost same price of g3 but it might have its own limitations too.
No optimus ui
No laser focus
Too big pahblet screen
Okay-ish camera many says
No extra features as will have stock android only
Pros-
Nexus so latest google updates
Snapdragon 805+ 2k screen is actually good combination, thats the reason we also have an 805 version of g3 in korea..(still its not good on benchmarks, dont know why)
Screen is amoled
Official custom rom teams support
Blah blah
So choose your poison..
If i was at your place, i would have been confused too, i would have tried the device in hand once(its performace and handeling of 2k display), and then go for it.
I dont think its design is issur for you, coz you wouldnt have asked it if you would have hated moto x type design of nexus 6(as many do hate)
Good luck mate
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Thanks for the good device and I think sticking with this is my decision after thinking about this phone does have problems but also has pros to I'm just worried that since the bump site has gone cm12 and other lollipop ROMs (which I am loving BTW) will stop being updated and remain as a buggy mess as they are( not terrible but not great) I guess I'll just wait and see what happens thanks for an amazing reply bug help dude

bb12489 said:
I've been wondering about the future of ROM's myself since this whole thing went down. However, there still is "Open Bump", but I'd actually feel terrible using it. Seems like it would just be a slap in the face to Team CodeFire. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens from now on. I'm happy that I just got Lollipop on my vs985, but worried about future development :/
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Same with me I don't care about having loads of ROMs I would just love one aosp lollipop ROM that has everything and even quick circle support if that happened this device will be incredible, and I haven't heard of this open bump? Is there a thread for this I'd like to see this for myself thanks for the reply

Just to clarify for everyone the BUMP site has being shut down but bump is NOT gone at all we have an offline python script that can do it.
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ryand274 said:
Cuz bump has gone and the devs aren't signing boot images I'm guessing custom ROMs will fall on this device and I am a heavy custom romer if that's a word ahahah always changing ROMs to try new ones, I bought this not knowing there would be a boot unlocked coming and wondering if the nexus 6 would be better for custom ROMs ? I know this is a g3 specific section and don't want a fight just wondering and need some help thanks
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Bump is not dead by any means and the end-users will likely not notice any degradation in ROM development. The Open Bump option is still available and many devs will use this. Team Codefire may also privately Bump builds for certain devs. It boils down to the fact that several developers threw hissy fits over Open Bump. I understand the reason they are mad about another dev making their exploit public, but the amount of drama surrounding this is abit ridiculous and there are arguments for both sides. This is a topic for another day, just know that Bump is not dead and development for the G3 will continue, don't worry. Bump has already been implemented into the nightly builds of CM12 so it's not going anywhere. Just never take an OTA update now if you want to keep TWRP.

Thread needs to be closed bump still works just different way of doing it is all roms will still be here
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So if I buy a G3 now, i'd still be able to root it and install a custom ROM on it then?

soldier16 said:
So if I buy a G3 now, i'd still be able to root it and install a custom ROM on it then?
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Of course. You can flash anything at the moment. The things you can flash however is a bit limited.

ymcc said:
Of course. You can flash anything at the moment. The things you can flash however is a bit limited.
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I am looking to get xposed on it. would that be possible?
Cheers!

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I am looking to get xposed on it. would that be possible?
Cheers!
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Yes.

but you must never update to lollipop to get xposed to work

What actually happened to Bump?
I know the thread got closed, but what happened?

MalekoUK said:
What actually happened to Bump?
I know the thread got closed, but what happened?
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People demand many stuff like develeoper has to make them. He got mad and he is right and stopped the support and delete his work.

DelBoy said:
People demand many stuff like develeoper has to make them. He got mad and he is right and stopped the support and delete his work.
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That isn't what happened, they made bump some guy got a stolen lg key to sign the boot.IMG files and also use there way yo bump and made it open source for everyone to use, the guy put credits to them but they had a tantrum cuz someone might have worked out how to do it and made it open source so anyone could use it without have to sign up for some ****ty website

Yez cuz iz biggerz.
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I'm not a developer, but from a price standpoint, there is no doubt ... The G3 with 32GB / 3GB ram cost me 1/2 the price of the Nexus 6. I believe for the money, the G3 is a fantastic device. Now, I know most people in the US will buy it on contract and won't have to put up 700 dollars (or 700 euros in my case) for a phone. But I believe techwise the N6 is a great phone, but I don't think it's worth the 700 euros (circa 1000 USD) while I got the G3 for almost half the price, and I had gone with the 16gb / 2gb ram version it would have been less than half.
If money isn't an issue, go for the N6. It will see development for years to come. But I really like the camera on the G3 and the size. 6 inches is really big for a phone in my usage.

Who told you the lie that Bump is gone? I'm still bumping my kernel here with a .py script =)

OnePlus and Cyanogen Inc are parting ways...

Everyone's worst(?) fears have come true:
Cyanogen ends OnePlus partnership, aims to work with bigger Chinese vendors
Do you care? I don't.
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If they continue building open source... I don't care...

Sad. But sounds like nobody knows how to work together. The guys at cyanogen the guy in charge has a hot temper. Does not really care whom he pisses off. I am not shocked at all. Like a little kids he takes his toys and goes plays somewhere else and nobody can play with his toys. Sounds like he does not care to make money, anyone else watching how this has played out should be aware of the type people who run cyanogen. Proof is in the pudding. He told some guy asking cm12s update hold the **** on. Come on, really. Bunch of assholes, but I can say that cause I am the consumer not the owner or programmer. If he feels his product is good enough and he can say what he wants to anyone then I wish them well running there product and company in the ground.

I haven't cared for cm inc. in all of this but I'd like to see which phone CyanogenMod devotes as much attention to as they did with the opo. If there is another actual flagship with cm on it, I'd highly consider it just to get a phone that gets first rate attention from cm. This fall should be interesting.

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Sad. But sounds like nobody knows how to work together. The guys at cyanogen the guy in charge has a hot temper. Does not really care whom he pisses off. I am not shocked at all. Like a little kids he takes his toys and goes plays somewhere else and nobody can play with his toys. Sounds like he does not care to make money, anyone else watching how this has played out should be aware of the type people who run cyanogen. Proof is in the pudding. He told some guy asking cm12s update hold the **** on. Come on, really. Bunch of assholes, but I can say that cause I am the consumer not the owner or programmer. If he feels his product is good enough and he can say what he wants to anyone then I wish them well running there product and company in the ground.
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I agree, if I was the head of an OEM and CM approached me to provide their OS there's no way I'd do it, considering how unprofessionally CM have behaved so far.
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I agree, if I was the head of an OEM and CM approached me to provide their OS there's no way I'd do it, considering how unprofessionally CM have behaved so far.
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This nails it. Anyone they approach from now on will look at their history and stay away.
Their case study is basically: Our first partnership started off, we provided the OS and then backstabbed them and signed an exclusive deal with a competitor banning their phones in India. We then parted ways.
They shot themselves in the head.

I'd say Huawei or Lenovo or possibly ZTE. Can't see it being Xiaomi.
Huawei needs the most help cleaning up their skin!
But yeah F*#$ CM!
They use what Google put out and pretend that they made it better although it's filled with bugs!

I am curious as to what exactly does this mean? Does this mean there will no longer be CM updates for the Oneplus One?

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I am curious as to what exactly does this mean? Does this mean there will no longer be CM updates for the Oneplus One?
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That still isn't entirely clear, apparently they're contractually obligated to support this model for two years but I wouldn't be surprised if they break that contract.
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Kirt McMaster is a douche bag. I just hope Oxygen OS gets up to snuff so I can switch from 11S.

timmaaa said:
I agree, if I was the head of an OEM and CM approached me to provide their OS there's no way I'd do it, considering how unprofessionally CM have behaved so far.
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If it wasnt for their good roms, and on past phones earlier then vendots with updates I wouldnt have even considered the oneplus. Actually thought it was their own first phone. lol.
its still a fun phone, but all in all its not what I expected it to be considering how long it took for official lollipop to come out

Isn't this a few months old news and/or expected?
Cyngn, OnePlus, Micromax – The Legal Battle
"Carl. We will be terminating our relationship with one plus. I will get back to you with more details shortly."
Nobody likes Cyanogen anyway. They have quickly become one of the most hated companies in the IT industry.

nitrobg said:
Isn't this a few months old news and/or expected?
Cyngn, OnePlus, Micromax – The Legal Battle
"Carl. We will be terminating our relationship with one plus. I will get back to you with more details shortly."
Nobody likes Cyanogen anyway. They have quickly become one of the most hated companies in the IT industry.
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You can't quote one line from a string of many emails and make that the end result of the correspondence. The conversation in those emails went on to resolve those issues. Temporarily maybe, but there was still a resolution. If the relationship had terminated back then we would have never gotten the 05Q update, let alone Lollipop. You're right on one point though, this was expected.
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Well it would surely affect oneplus 2 sales. OxygenOS is not open sourced and they don't even know how to provide proper kernel sources. Main keypoint about opo is open source spirit which oxygenos clearly lacks.
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abhibnl said:
Well it would surely affect oneplus 2 sales. OxygenOS is not open sourced and they don't even know how to provide proper kernel sources. Main keypoint about opo is open source spirit which oxygenos clearly lacks.
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Even if it doesn't come out of the box with Cyanogenmod, I'm sure nightly builds would be up soon for it anyway.

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Even if it doesn't come out of the box with Cyanogenmod, I'm sure nightly builds would be up soon for it anyway.
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Hope so it'll be as open sourced as OPO is now! I would surely consider upgrading then.

As an affordable phone that is very easy to play around with custom software, announcements such as these carry less drawbacks than may at first seem the case.
As far as I'm concerned, CM and OPO parting ways is of little consequence... Regardless of an official CM partnership, the phone is still in the very capable hands of devs here on xda and at OPO.

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As an affordable phone that is very easy to play around with custom software, announcements such as these carry less drawbacks than may at first seem the case.
As far as I'm concerned, CM and OPO parting ways is of little consequence... Regardless of an official CM partnership, the phone is still in the very capable hands of devs here on xda and at OPO.
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Just realized I sold 4 phones to friends that have no intention of going custom.
I am kinda sad cause I vouched for the oneplus getting more and speedy updates.
Now neither oneplus nor cyanogen will get me or them as customers ever again if they dont continue the 2 years after last oneplus sold support Why after last sold? due to commitment of 2 years support to customer (not oneplus)

Now that the partnership is effectively over, where is the incentive for CM to provide timely and bug-free updates? They're just going to do the minimum required to fulfill their contract until the 2 years are up.
I do want to keep my phone on CM but I'm wondering if there's any point to stay on 12S rather than switching to the 12.1 nightlies

Felchy said:
Now that the partnership is effectively over, where is the incentive for CM to provide timely and bug-free updates? They're just going to do the minimum required to fulfill their contract until the 2 years are up.
I do want to keep my phone on CM but I'm wondering if there's any point to stay on 12S rather than switching to the 12.1 nightlies
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That's the grey area, nobody really knows. I'd just switch to the nightlies.
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What's your conception of Oneplus as a company after 1 yr 1 mo?

How do you feel about the company after all this time? Has any of the controversies changed your perception of the company? Would you buy its products in the future? Etc...
For me the company isn't as good as it was in the past when i bought the OPO. The controversies have changed my perception of the company by a lot. They have opened up a whole lot about the company that their PR Team can't cover up. The most sad thing I've found is that OP doesn't want to address the problems and even if they do they don't want to solve it. Its an amateur move to think that there's an easy way out. For instance (agree with me or not) OxygenOS was a screw up after all that hype. But they didn't address the problem they just kept hyping it more and more. For fixing of the problem, there is no update for OxygenOS.. It's like the project is dead. But let's not about that.
For the future products, I will look forward to buy them but the doubt a person has before buying something has definitely increased from when i bought the OPO

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How do you feel about the company after all this time? Has any of the controversies changed your perception of the company? Would you buy its products in the future? Etc...
For me the company isn't as good as it was in the past when i bought the OPO. The controversies have changed my perception of the company by a lot. They have opened up a whole lot about the company that their PR Team can't cover up. The most sad thing I've found is that OP doesn't want to address the problems and even if they do they don't want to solve it. Its an amateur move to think that there's an easy way out. For instance (agree with me or not) OxygenOS was a screw up after all that hype. But they didn't address the problem they just kept hyping it more and more. For fixing of the problem, there is no update for OxygenOS.. It's like the project is dead. But let's not about that.
For the future products, I will look forward to buy them but the doubt a person has before buying something has definitely increased from when i bought the OPO
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How was Oxygen a screw up? Do you mean the extended delays? If so I agree completely, they made a huge mistake in continually promising release dates that they couldn't make. As far as updates go, it's been less than two months since release. Have a look at all the other OEM release schedules and it's pretty clear that updates aren't usually very frequent. Either way I'd still consider buying another OnePlus product, but my decision would hinge on what OS was shipped with the product.
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How was Oxygen a screw up? Do you mean the extended delays? If so I agree completely, they made a huge mistake in continually promising release dates that they couldn't make. As far as updates go, it's been less than two months since release. Have a look at all the other OEM release schedules and it's pretty clear that updates aren't usually very frequent. Either way I'd still consider buying another OnePlus product, but my decision would hinge on what OS was shipped with the product.
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Its not about the OS at all...Mentioning the OS was just for an instance and it was the first thing that came to my mind...I can google the other things if you want..give you a complete;y detailed list with the highest crystal purity you have ever seen :silly:
and i understand that it takes to roll out updates...But what is the overhyped PA/O2OS team doing since the past couple of months?

Meuuks13 said:
Its not about the OS at all...Mentioning the OS was just for an instance and it was the first thing that came to my mind...I can google the other things if you want..give you a complete;y detailed list with the highest crystal purity you have ever seen :silly:
and i understand that it takes to roll out updates...But what is the overhyped PA/O2OS team doing since the past couple of months?
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I get what you're saying, OnePlus have made quite a few mistakes. They're a young company though, that's not to excuse them exactly, but hopefully they actually learn from their errors and make a bigger effort in future.
In regards to Oxygen, it isn't PA, there's only one member of the Oxygen team that came from Paranoid Android. As far as it being over-hyped, I can only assume that you're saying you weren't overly pleased with the end product. But as I see it they delivered exactly what they promised; a close to stock Android experience. I've seen a lot of people complain that it lacks features that they're used to, but those features that they're missing aren't a part of stock Android and therefore shouldn't have been expected in the first place. If people want those kinds of features turn they need to turn to the one place that they're readily available; XDA, and custom ROMs. In saying that, I don't personally like Oxygen, because I like more features, so I use custom ROMs. But I was fully aware that Oxygen was being promoted as a stock-like experience so there's no reason to complain about that. The fact that I don't personally like it doesn't make it a bad product, it just means it's my own opinion, and I'm not arrogant enough to think that my opinion means that it's a bad OS, there are many people out there that love it.
What have the Oxygen team been doing? What has any development team been doing since their last update? Working on the OS (hopefully). The fact is we're not entitled to anything, it's an optional OS.
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Heisenberg said:
I get what you're saying, OnePlus have made quite a few mistakes. They're a young company though, that's not to excuse them exactly, but hopefully they actually learn from their errors and make a bigger effort in future.
In regards to Oxygen, it isn't PA, there's only one member of the Oxygen team that came from Paranoid Android. As far as it being over-hyped, I can only assume that you're saying you weren't overly pleased with the end product. But as I see it they delivered exactly what they promised; a close to stock Android experience. I've seen a lot of people complain that it lacks features that they're used to, but those features that they're missing aren't a part of stock Android and therefore shouldn't have been expected in the first place. If people want those kinds of features turn they need to turn to the one place that they're readily available; XDA, and custom ROMs. In saying that, I don't personally like Oxygen, because I like more features, so I use custom ROMs. But I was fully aware that Oxygen was being promoted as a stock-like experience so there's no reason to complain about that. The fact that I don't personally like it doesn't make it a bad product, it just means it's my own opinion, and I'm not arrogant enough to think that my opinion means that it's a bad OS, there are many people out there that love it.
What have the Oxygen team been doing? What has any development team been doing since their last update? Working on the OS (hopefully). The fact is we're not entitled to anything, it's an optional OS.
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I don't know how this turned into a debate on n OxygenOS. But now since it has there are already too many ROMs which are near stock experience.. What's the use of one more? Also they never said they were going to release a ROM which was near stock rather they said it was going to be something great. There are already enough averages out there, no need for one more giving the stock experience.

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I don't know how this turned into a debate on n OxygenOS. But now since it has there are already too many ROMs which are near stock experience.. What's the use of one more? Also they never said they were going to release a ROM which was near stock rather they said it was going to be something great. There are already enough averages out there, no need for one more giving the stock experience.
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Natural progression of the conversation since that's where you started in your OP. What's the use? Choice. The fact that you don't like it doesn't mean others don't, you have your opinion and you're entitled to that, but your opinion doesn't dictate how others see the ROM. It's simple; if you don't like Oxygen just don't use it. We have literally dozens and dozens of ROMs available for this phone so you can have your pick.
There are plenty of people who want a near stock experience. And yes, they did promote it as that on numerous occasions. And it is great in many people's eyes, which brings me back to my previous point; the fact that you don't think it's great doesn't mean it isn't great for someone else. To each their own.
To say thread the ROM is pointless is akin to saying that any phone without a custom ROM on it (and running OEM firmware) is pointless. There are billions of those in the world. Custom ROMs are the minority. Plus, there are many ROMs right here on XDA that are a near stock experience, are they all pointless?
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Natural progression of the conversation since that's where you started in your OP. What's the use? Choice. The fact that you don't like it doesn't mean others don't, you have your opinion and you're entitled to that, but your opinion doesn't dictate how others see the ROM. It's simple; if you don't like Oxygen just don't use it. We have literally dozens and dozens of ROMs available for this phone so you can have your pick.
There are plenty of people who want a near stock experience. And yes, they did promote it as that on numerous occasions. And it is great in many people's eyes, which brings me back to my previous point; the fact that you don't think it's great doesn't mean it isn't great for someone else. To each their own.
To say thread the ROM is pointless is akin to saying that any phone without a custom ROM on it (and running OEM firmware) is pointless. There are billions of those in the world. Custom ROMs are the minority. Plus, there are many ROMs right here on XDA that are a near stock experience, are they all pointless?
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Is adding 1 to 100 pointless? Yup!

Meuuks13 said:
Is adding 1 to 100 pointless? Yup!
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Alright, I can see this is a discussion that will go nowhere because you fully believe that your opinion is the only one in the world that matters, that your opinion is the only one in the world that is right, and that your opinion is fact and not just an opinion. No matter how many perfectly rational and valid points I put forward you're unable to open your mind to see past your own point of view. Good luck with that.

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Alright, I can see this is a discussion that will go nowhere because you fully believe that your opinion is the only one in the world that matters, that your opinion is the only one in the world that is right, and that your opinion is fact and not just an opinion. No matter how many perfectly rational and valid points I put forward you're unable to open your mind to see past your own point of view. Good luck with that.
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Yes you are right. OP's own conscience is not clear yet. He need to understand what exactly he want from the company. Oxygen OS was pure AOSP build. I don't think there is any ROM on XDA which is pure stock like Oxygen. So people who love AOSP ROM's will prefer oxygen. Other people have tons of ROMs to choose from.

lokesh.3440 said:
Yes you are right. OP's own conscience is not clear yet. He need to understand what exactly he want from the company. Oxygen OS was pure AOSP build. I don't think there is any ROM on XDA which is pure stock like Oxygen. So people who love AOSP ROM's will prefer oxygen. Other people have tons of ROMs to choose from.
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First of all i didn't come here to discuss about OxygenOS and conscience? Really?

Heisenberg said:
Alright, I can see this is a discussion that will go nowhere because you fully believe that your opinion is the only one in the world that matters, that your opinion is the only one in the world that is right, and that your opinion is fact and not just an opinion. No matter how many perfectly rational and valid points I put forward you're unable to open your mind to see past your own point of view. Good luck with that.
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I don't about my opinion and my ability to look beyond it but what i know from roaming around these forums is that its very easy to honey pot people. Its very easy to get their loyalty and to have them defend you at no matter what. Its really easy to stop them from taking out a moment and rationally thinking.

I personally think OnePlus is on the right track. I'd consider a phone from them again only if the value was similar. A phone with these specs at 360 today is still a decent deal. Regarding oxygen os, I'm one of the users that likes it pure asop base and then I use xposed to add the specific features I want. I view the sheer volume of choices as a huge value add for this phone and its ease to flash custom roms a huge benefit ensuring support from dev community for a while. Is there room for improvement? Absolutely but it's still high on my list of vendors to choose from when it's time to upgrade.

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First of all i didn't come here to discuss about OxygenOS and conscience? Really?
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Can't you see you are begging for updates of Oxygen in your first post. Now you are saying its not about Oxygen OS.

loving OPO the starting period... Now hating and waiting to sold my OPO and I will NEVER buy a product from them anymore.
From 1 month I've the display issue, with ghost/non responsive touch, no matter what ROM or FIX I apply....
I contact the assistance to change it in warranty, they told me that they can't repair 'cause it have some dents on the frame...
They continue to send me ROMS, links, zips with pre-writed forms, they never read one word from what i write them.
So, I've a VERY BAD opinion of them, and from now, I will leave forever all their products to others people on the earth.
Flagship killer.... it's easy to use batches of fail/cheap display and when they result as crappy display you search all excuses to not repair them.

lokesh.3440 said:
Can't you see you are begging for updates of Oxygen in your first post. Now you are saying its not about Oxygen OS.
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dude i don't even use o2os

m4ssnet said:
loving OPO the starting period... Now hating and waiting to sold my OPO and I will NEVER buy a product from them anymore.
From 1 month I've the display issue, with ghost/non responsive touch, no matter what ROM or FIX I apply....
I contact the assistance to change it in warranty, they told me that they can't repair 'cause it have some dents on the frame...
They continue to send me ROMS, links, zips with pre-writed forms, they never read one word from what i write them.
So, I've a VERY BAD opinion of them, and from now, I will leave forever all their products to others people on the earth.
Flagship killer.... it's easy to use batches of fail/cheap display and when they result as crappy display you search all excuses to not repair them.
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OP's service has always been awful

maybe
It all depends on the price for me. I bought the Oneplus One because it was pretty cheap, had good specs and a decent community. I might buy the Two if it's cheap. If it's expensive because of some useless metal parts or because it has the ability to control my tv or make soup, I won't buy it.

I love my OPO and can't wait for OP2. Tech support IME has been fantastic, they solved a small issue without delay and were friendly & helpful the entire time. I'd recommend OnePlus to anybody based on that experience and of course the phone itself. tbh i don't care at all about OxygenOS or delays because I run rooted custom all the time no matter what it came with. Mine came with KitKat and was awesome the whole time, when LP arrived it was still awesome so there's no reason to be unhappy.
CM12S is a good default choice for most ppl and the camera app is solid, only wish it used Camera2 LP API even if we'd lose the Clear Image feature. Openness of the hardware is like a breath of fresh air after years of Samsung. Now that Samsung is trying to be Apple with KNOX and other BS it's even more compelling to choose OnePlus for the next iteration - IF they keep the screen at least 5.5, hopefully bigger.

[Q] Will the OnePlus 2 be as popular as the OnePlus One among developers?

Will the OnePlus 2 be as popular as the OnePlus One among developers?
It doesn't come with CM anymore, does that mean it will need more effort to make custom ROMs and kernels run on it?
Thanks in advance for your input .

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Will the OnePlus 2 be as popular as the OnePlus One among developers?
It doesn't come with CM anymore, does that mean it will need more effort to make custom ROMs and kernels run on it?
Thanks in advance for your input .
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I am not sure but i am optimistic .cyanogenmod will be present in op2 also.
We should consider also the new huawei nexus. Oneplus 2 probably will have unlockable bootloader, so it will be developers friendly.
Also i dont think that developers will prefer zuk z1.

Yes i think it will

The Oneplus got much of its popularity due to it's low cost and the fact that rooting didn't affect warranty.
So far we don't know anything solid, except it will be under $450 (i'm guessing about €400).
I can only assume that they will keep their stance on rooting as most RMAs were hardware based.
However with them really pushing Oxygen OS, who really know, maybe they will pull the rooted warrant to try to encourage users to stick with their closed source OS...
If so I don't think it will be as popular, more expensive, less trustworthy processor, not really much of a better deal for developers...

Being a phone that is unlocked, developer friendly, and a company that promotes and supports development and flashing without voiding the warranty, the OP will e the phone to have for a developer just as the OPO is. YES, there will be mad development in my opinion.

mko000 said:
Will the OnePlus 2 be as popular as the OnePlus One among developers?
It doesn't come with CM anymore, does that mean it will need more effort to make custom ROMs and kernels run on it?
Thanks in advance for your input .
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Looking at today's awful leaks, my interest for OP2 has vanished.
I think that OnePlus will void your warranty for OP2 if you unlock the bootloader.
It'll have good Developer support too.
If not here, then on oneplus forums.
The only problem will be that you can't downgrade your Android version if you ran into range of issues which is possible in OPO.
I can't comment about it's popularity, everything depends on Price!
Also, many new devices are developed and launched every month and the OnePlus claims it to be a "2016 Flagship Killer"
So I doubt about this statement this time. I'm sure that after OP2 is launched, many new competitors for this device will emerge out.

If this is the phone and it have Blisspop rom I'm in all the way....
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scabbie1980 said:
If this is the phone and it have Blisspop rom I'm in all the way....
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This picture is as real as Santa Claus....

davebugyi said:
This picture is as real as Santa Claus....
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I know, I was just saying that it looks like a great phone. No bezels more screen and look good in there hands... No phones ever look as good as the fakes they bring out....

My experience in XDA tells that custom ROM support for DUAL SIM phones are on the lower side. Going by that trend and since OP2 is rumored to be a DUAL sim, I think the developer support may be less. But I would love to see my presumptions proven wrong
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It's got all the features of successful dev-friendly Androids: top quality hardware, lower price than similar locked devices, Qualcomm SoC, easy to root. It's the next thing to a Nexus. Safe assumption is that devs will love it.

Yeah
Will grab one of these...
cheers

superdragonpt said:
Yeah
Will grab one of these...
cheers
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Hey as a DEV can you know the answer for my question on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/help/custom-roms-root-fingerprint-sensor-t3168267
Thanks

The only reservation I have is that Oxygen isn't exactly open source, which could make things rather difficult.

Jeisblack said:
Hey as a DEV can you know the answer for my question on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-2/help/custom-roms-root-fingerprint-sensor-t3168267
Thanks
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I already answered ...
Heisenberg said:
The only reservation I have is that Oxygen isn't exactly open source, which could make things rather difficult.
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prety much ^^ THIS
If they don't provide the proper fingerprint driver code, it could be difficult to implement.
Also this thing haves so much includes (on other devices drivers), making one working driver from scratch (using driver from another phone) can (and will be) a big headache
cheers

Custom ROMs - when?

Now that we have unlock, custom bootloader and root, when will we start seeing custom ROMs for the MPE?
Are we waiting for Google or Moto to release the factory ROM file? Any guesses on timing?
I am excited to see all the wonderful customization that can be done for this developer friendly phone!
My 64GB MPE is scheduled for delivery by October 1. Ordered on Sept 10. I doubt this schedule will be met since there seems to be shortage of 64GB phones.

By the time you get your phone we should have something. Devs got one booting. Bunch of bugs though. In do time.

Builds are being tested. It shouldn't be too much longer.

I've done one, pretty stock just deodexed etc and some minor mods. If I get a chance to work on it should be available in a day or 2

Phone is at my doorstep today. Tonight I will be unlocking the bootloader, installing TWRP, backing-up the default image, rooting and installing Xposed.
I was hoping to have a custom ROM, but am fine with waiting a bit for the magic to happen.

I'm not convinced this device is going to see a ton of development unfortunately. WIth Moto supply issues, lots of complaints about heat with the GPU and very poor battery life if the GPU gets used in almost any capacity I think it scared a good number of people off. We've had root almost from the start and there has been very little activity thus far, with the nexus coming and more people than I remember talking about sending units back I'm thinking if you really want dev support you should consider getting on the nexus.
I'm not convinced with the changes Leno made at Moto that we are even going to see updates in a timely manner. Its causing me to seriously consider returning my device once I get it. Ordered on 9/3 and still don't have the stupid thing. I have the nexus p on order as well which can be cancelled online like a real retailer should i change my mind.
I'm sure the pure will have a few roms to flash maybe even CM in some capacity but I'm not convinced it will ever really take off. Just my opinion which obviously take with a grain of salt.

Aridon said:
I'm not convinced this device is going to see a ton of development unfortunately. WIth Moto supply issues, lots of complaints about heat with the GPU and very poor battery life if the GPU gets used in almost any capacity I think it scared a good number of people off. We've had root almost from the start and there has been very little activity thus far, with the nexus coming and more people than I remember talking about sending units back I'm thinking if you really want dev support you should consider getting on the nexus.
I'm not convinced with the changes Leno made at Moto that we are even going to see updates in a timely manner. Its causing me to seriously consider returning my device once I get it. Ordered on 9/3 and still don't have the stupid thing. I have the nexus p on order as well which can be cancelled online like a real retailer should i change my mind.
I'm sure the pure will have a few roms to flash maybe even CM in some capacity but I'm not convinced it will ever really take off. Just my opinion which obviously take with a grain of salt.
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I really hope the openness of this phone draws development. I went with this over the N5X due to the memory card slot. Plus, my wife will kill me if I'm ordering a third phone in four months time.

spotmark said:
My wife will kill me if I'm ordering a third phone in four months time.
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Hahaha, I'm in the same boat brother.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this phone gets some love from the devs. To be honest though, I'm pretty satisfied with it with just xposed mods so even if it doesn't make huge waves, I think I'll keep it.

dclutter1 said:
Hahaha, I'm in the same boat brother.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this phone gets some love from the devs. To be honest though, I'm pretty satisfied with it with just xposed mods so even if it doesn't make huge waves, I think I'll keep it.
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Yeah, I don't know if I can live with just 32gb.

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Yeah, I don't know if I can live with just 32gb.
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Oh, that sucks.
Luckily, I'm fine 16 + 32gb card.

I'm just thinking out loud but I don't see the new Nexus being worth the money. No sdcard is a real killer for me. The camera probably won't be that great. Hopefully an update will fix some of our camera woes. I could care less about a fingerprint reader. I'm hoping some developers will not be crazy about the new Nexus and switch over to this phone. Hash is working on the CM but I have not heard anyone else say they planned on doing much with this device. Hopefully after the dust settles on the Nexus launch we might get more developers. This phone is a dream for many users and developers with the ability to be unlocked. Lenovo dropped the ball not giving this "Developer's Edition" status. I'm really pleased with it so far for the money.

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Oh, that sucks.
Luckily, I'm fine 16 + 32gb card.
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Yeah, I went with 32gb, and a 64gb card. If the new Nexus had a 64gb model, it would help sway me, but I'm going to have to think long and hard with 32gb being the largest.

I've been working hard on a custom rom for this but it's having trouble booting. And I'm not the only one with this problem.
Coming from Samsung devices where I have done many custom roms this device is a little trickier. I'll get there but at the moment its a pain.
I have no problem restoring a backup though so I may just create a nandroid (minus the data) that users can flash via restore for the time being

Keep at it, it will come eventually.
-Funk

Aridon said:
I'm not convinced this device is going to see a ton of development unfortunately. WIth Moto supply issues, lots of complaints about heat with the GPU and very poor battery life if the GPU gets used in almost any capacity I think it scared a good number of people off. We've had root almost from the start and there has been very little activity thus far, with the nexus coming and more people than I remember talking about sending units back I'm thinking if you really want dev support you should consider getting on the nexus.
I'm not convinced with the changes Leno made at Moto that we are even going to see updates in a timely manner. Its causing me to seriously consider returning my device once I get it. Ordered on 9/3 and still don't have the stupid thing. I have the nexus p on order as well which can be cancelled online like a real retailer should i change my mind.
I'm sure the pure will have a few roms to flash maybe even CM in some capacity but I'm not convinced it will ever really take off. Just my opinion which obviously take with a grain of salt.
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It'll have more than a few ROMs. Being that it's the same phone across the board, it'll have more development than nearly every other phone (other than the Nexus devices, obviously). I have absolutely zero worry that lack of development will be an issue for the Pure. The complaints you see around here most likely won't scare devs off. They're smart enough to know you get that with almost every phone.

not-i said:
I've been working hard on a custom rom for this but it's having trouble booting. And I'm not the only one with this problem.
Coming from Samsung devices where I have done many custom roms this device is a little trickier. I'll get there but at the moment its a pain.
I have no problem restoring a backup though so I may just create a nandroid (minus the data) that users can flash via restore for the time being
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Cheers bro lots of people counting on you
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When? Now, cm running here very well. Any doubters out there, devs hustled and already an excellent first pass!

I am with i-not comments
We have done a deodexed, some mods, but flashing a fresh rom leaves us bootign stopping on Animation,no matter what we have tried so far.
So i can tell you i-not and myslef have been workign on ROM's.
Never promise if, or when folks...

Gunthermic said:
I am with i-not comments
We have done a deodexed, some mods, but flashing a fresh rom leaves us bootign stopping on Animation,no matter what we have tried so far.
So i can tell you i-not and myslef have been workign on ROM's.
Never promise if, or when folks...
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Glad to see so many familiar names committing to this phone. I love your blue themes.

When its ready... I think.
Yeah~