I look at sites where they make reviews and news about new phones and I realised, that Xiaomi releases a new phone like every two weeks. Redmi, Mi Series and then numbers and after the numbers letters etc. I get the impression, that especial for the redmi series they release a phone and then they don't seem to care much about it. I bought the redmi note 2 in autumn last year. It was new but I had to get it from china. It took three weeks to come and then just a couple of weeks later redmi note 3 was released. The redmi note 2 is more or less one year old but I feel like it's from 2012. Especially when it comes to an official Android Update.
So I would like to know if it is just my impression or is that normal?
True, there is Redmi Note 4 on sales now, and only a year passed from Note 2 release. And the problem with android update, because we have MTK chip, no sources to make newer version, common problem with MTK. I will never buy an MTK phone in the future...
I think that they released RN3 because they realized that RN2 is too hungry in terms of power.
In fact it used the same SOC but they put a 4100mAh battery inside it.
About MTK, sure they don't provide a long term support in term of software updates.
Anyway my previous MTK phone (not from xiaomi) received the upgrade from Jelly Bean to KitKat about 7 months later (with several test builds in the middle).
Phone models from other vendors using the same SOC of RN2 received the upgrade, so in this case is not an exclusive MTK's fault.
BTW, we are still here talking about Marshmallow when Nougat is out and 7.1 should be live on December...
btw Jiayu S3 with MTK 6752 got unnoficial fully working 7.1 nougat update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/jiayu-s3/development/rom-unofficial-aosp-n-jiayu-s3-t3451923
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I think that they released RN3 because they realized that RN2 is too hungry in terms of power.
In fact it used the same SOC but they put a 4100mAh battery inside it.
About MTK, sure they don't provide a long term support in term of software updates.
Anyway my previous MTK phone (not from xiaomi) received the upgrade from Jelly Bean to KitKat about 7 months later (with several test builds in the middle).
Phone models from other vendors using the same SOC of RN2 received the upgrade, so in this case is not an exclusive MTK's fault.
BTW, we are still here talking about Marshmallow when Nougat is out and 7.1 should be live on December...
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Couldn't they then release a better battery or solve it somehow with software updates? We can remove the cover and change the battery. That's the point, why do they release new phones every second week when it has flaws. I get the impression that they are overhasty. And now they focus on the new releases and it seems like they don't care about rn2.
The phone is good for it's price but I am a little bit disappointed with the service and the communication between producer and the costumers.
In the past they were many projects and people working on custom roms but that decreased
No China manufacturer is good at customer or product support - not even in their own country. When you have a huge passing trade (the population of China), the concept of reputation means much less than in countries of smaller populations. It is the same principal as how businesses operate in small towns versus large cities anywhere in the world.
The RN2 is a lot of phone for the dollars only let down by factory software that is nothing more than an early engineering release.
@gasperoni Brainless noobs making endless and mindless demands of the already scarce devs has driven them away. Parents, please take the SIM out before giving these phones to your infants as toys
if they have the money to do it, i dont see why not. that way, us consumers can choose any phones/specs as we please from Xiaomi.
surely never MTK
Nope never an MTK for me either and I will not even consider a Chinese phone in the future, or at least many years to come. Had several Chinese phones and tables during five to six years always something wrong with them. Either the GPS is ****ty the reception, the battery, the camera or whatnot. I spent my hard earned money on a Sony Xperia Z5 Premium and for the tablet Samsung Galaxy Tab S2. Yes it did hurt a little because the brands are much more expensive. But boy, they do work from day ONE. And never had a glitch. It's well worth the money and it only hurt me once.
Sony Z5 Premium
I have a Redmi Note 2 and I was thinking about to upgrade to Redmi Note 4 for the Ram, battery and Camcorder... But it seems that it has the same frame-laggy camcorder problem of the Redmi Note 2 (this problem is sooo Mediatek)
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I have been using my PRO 12.2 for a couple of months and I am quite happy. Coming from a Google Nexus background (phone and 7" tablet) one of my main concerns with purchasing a Samsung product was it's poor history of providing software updates. I have owned Samsung tablets in the past and always felt stranded by the lack of updated versions of Android.
It will be interesting to see how fast it will take them to push out Android 4.4.3 OTA. 4.4.3 is a minor update so one would think that it would be fairly quick. I really hope Samsung passes the test. Let's see how serious they really are.
One of the major Samsung`s disadvantages is the poor support and updates for their whole products starting from smart phones to tablets.
For example Galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition was released in October 2014 with Jelly Bean 4.2 and just weeks ago Samsung started to roll out 4.3 for that great tablet. While they have released the Note Pro 12.2 with the kitkat 4.3 on January 2014...
"If you wanna the recent updates and software go and get their new product or you have to wait for a long time till you get the updates"
I think this is Samsung`s Policy.
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One of the major Samsung`s disadvantages is the poor support and updates for their whole products starting from smart phones to tablets.
For example Galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition was released in October 2014 with Jelly Bean 4.2 and just weeks ago Samsung started to roll out 4.3 for that great tablet. While they have released the Note Pro 12.2 with the kitkat 4.3 on January 2014...
"If you wanna the recent updates and software go and get their new product or you have to wait for a long time till you get the updates"
I think this is Samsung`s Policy.
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... and that concerns me.
Please I am a new member here would you please show me how to download akp
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Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
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Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
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I don`t think so...
Simply there are 2 devices with almost the same hardware specs (Note 10.1 and Note Pro) the first one (10.1) has recently started to get the 4.4.2 update while the Note Pro was released with the Kitkat 4.4.2 on January 2014.
Another example, the upcoming tablets 10.5 S/Note 4/ Tab 4/...etc will be released with the recent updates 4.4.3 which is still not available for any other Tab/Note/Smart Phone...
I think it is not the matter of software adaptation but the priority goes for the upcoming products not those already released....
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Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
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OEMs can access Google's internal Android's sources before they're open-sourced. Nexus isn't a benchmark - it's a public release of already finished firmware, and patching up the final issues, OEM's updates should follow within one-two months, not 6+ months or more. Since Note 3 is still one of their top phablets with no successors, they had to update it quickly enough to make people stay on their devices - if you'd spend 650 pounds on a device and then wait 6 months (if you're lucky) to get an update, you'd probably be pissed off (and rightfully so). They abandon their low-end devices or older flagships quite quickly.
For example, Galaxy S2 (which I own) was updated to 4.1, but not any further, despite being perfectly capable of doing so. According to Samsung, it's because they ran out of memory with TouchWiz bloatware 99.9% folks never use features, despite the fact that S3 was updated to 4.3, and had 1GB RAM - just as S2 did, S2 /system was 512MB, /preload was another 512MB. S3's firmware was ~800MB. So, really, it's just them having crappy business practices.
Another example? Galaxy Mini 2. It's moderately popular in Poland - it's cheap and "just works", and was released with 2.3 - had a couple of point releases, but never got past Gingerbread. There are 4.x ROMs for this phone here, and they're fast and fine. Capable - just Samsung's not interested. Okay, they were - and eventually announced that no update will be released.
I'm honestly admiring Microsoft for their WP8.1 upgrade policy.
Been there, done that. . My experience with a Verizon galaxy tab 10.1 was enough to convince me not to buy another Verizon variant of a Samsung tablet. If samsung is slow at releasing updates it only gets worse on carrier versions. Look at AT&T... they put in their FCC application at around the same time as Verizon for the Note probut are only now announcing it. In a world where refreshed hardware is released yearly having a 4 month lag in release is a bit concerning.
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I have been using my PRO 12.2 for a couple of months and I am quite happy. Coming from a Google Nexus background (phone and 7" tablet) one of my main concerns with purchasing a Samsung product was it's poor history of providing software updates. I have owned Samsung tablets in the past and always felt stranded by the lack of updated versions of Android.
It will be interesting to see how fast it will take them to push out Android 4.4.3 OTA. 4.4.3 is a minor update so one would think that it would be fairly quick. I really hope Samsung passes the test. Let's see how serious they really are.
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That's a systemic Android issue. Apple puts out updates to their 7 year old devices, but Android devices are always abandoned in less than a year. Hopefully, we'll get better support for this device.
why are we stuck at 6.0 for so long? ( i know there are unofficial 7.0 roms but still)
Each Galaxy Flagship has 2 years major support from Samsung, for Note 4 it's already passed 2 years.
so as per Samsung and most of other company logics and standards, if you want the latest updates you need to get a new phone, even if your old phone is capable and better than most of the new phones.
While the Note 4 could easily run Nougat if Samsung decided to release it. I seriously doubt that we will see Nougat for the Note 4. Samsung hasn't even address the swappable battery charging problem with any of their OS updates, yet.
This is what I absolutely hate about this business. They make devices obsolete by not updating them anymore. Politics really has to do something about this.
even with the 6.0 marshmallow update, they didn't change it much from the previous version. even they update the Tab s2 to 7.0 which has the same chip and ram.
Why should they? Even if Note4 is still a good phone, it is pretty old model, no point in upgrading it. The competition is huge, Samsung has to concentrate on new models. They want people to buy new phones, not upgrading old ones, and even if for some of us seems totally pointless to buy a new handset because of it´s new OS, some others do it.
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Why should they? Even if Note4 is still a good phone, it is pretty old model, no point in upgrading it. The competition is huge, Samsung has to concentrate on new models. They want people to buy new phones, not upgrading old ones, and even if for some of us seems totally pointless to buy a new handset because of it´s new OS, some others do it.
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So why Apple still support 2012 iPhone 5 in 2017 ?
I think we all saw it coming, right?
https://twitter.com/htc/status/1028000627794706432?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet
My HTC U Ultra is definitely my last HTC device. Since the HTC HD2 every year had a new HTC, but with the current update policy I really lost the last bit of confidence.
It’s likely that only HTC’s U series will get the update, with the U11 Life, U11+, and U12+ all expected to receive Android Pie in Q4 2018. Following in early 2019 are the HTC U11 and U11 EYEs, and in Q2 2019 the HTC U Ultra.
https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/how-to/google-android/get-android-pie-now-3613690/
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My HTC U Ultra is definitely my last HTC device. Since the HTC HD2 every year had a new HTC, but with the current update policy I really lost the last bit of confidence.
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Same here. No more HTC ever. What a ****ty company.
Would it be possible someone could make an android pie ROM for the HTC u ultra?
Not according to this:
https://theleaker.com/htc-android-p-9-0-update/
If you read HTCs Twitter feed and FB page, they tell you that, Like other devs.. HTC provides updates for 2 years on all of their devices after release... The HTC 10 isnt getting P, but as the Ultra is only 17 months old, so the Ultra will be..
People just love bashing HTC, but there are 100s of 1000s of Ultras out there... Just because MKBHD or Flossy Carter dont like the Ultra.. doesnt mean the Ultra is finished
Unfortunately i am skeptic that we will get any further update for the ultra. Yes our phone is flagship and it is less than 2 years old and it is shame that htc will leave it to die but it has the same hardware as htc 10 inside. If they update u ultra they should also update htc 10 and they obviously do not want to spend resources to make snapdragon 820 and the second screen to work properly. It was clear when they updated us to oreo but did not include project treble that they do not plan further development. If they did they would make their life easier for android P by including it.
Frankly i am tired of playing this software update game with most android manufacturers. I am android user since the days of android 1.6 and have used devices (mostly flagship) by sony, lg and htc and despite the promised commitment of manufacturers to provide 2 years of major android version updates (which should include at least 2 versions above initial when released) for flagships this is rarely the case unfortunately. They use all kind of tricks like releasing deliberately with older version or trying to lie people that the new software will work worse with the hardware to avoid updates. When they need to take your money they are first to promise everything to buy their new phone but when you need support after that they are deaf. Long time ago when android had just basic features and manufacturers added many additional ones there was reason to go with certain manufacturer but now when android is fully developed platform i do not see reason to stick with anything different than google in future. Pixel 2/xl will be supported for 3 years with major android versions which means 3 versions above the initial. Moreover you receive security updates every month. Most probably with pixel 3 it will be the same. So yes i will use my u ultra for some more time but my next phone will definitely be google pixel. Too bad for htc - the u ultra has the best sound with headphones compared to my previous phones but today you simply can not afford to not provide current software for flagship device which is not even 2 years old.
Htc ultra
I have been happy with ultra photos sound and general smooth operation
It's disappointing that we won't get pie till q2 2019
But I am impressed with the photo quality and sound
Battery does go down with serious use but otherwise I am happy with it performance
Don't use 2nd screen much
Like the big phone now am sold on phablet
Still love the themes of HTC
May have to buy online or os next time as HTC don't sell
Each thru shops
We will not get android 9 at all. HTC dropped support for our phone despite it being just year and a half old. The only hope to get android 9 would be if custom ROM is developed.
I've contacted HTC about this, apparently ill get an answer from the correct department in the next few days. Not updating a year and a half old device would be atrocious and would for sure make this the last HTC device I purchase.
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We will not get android 9 at all. HTC dropped support for our phone despite it being just year and a half old. The only hope to get android 9 would be if custom ROM is developed.
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btw this isnt the case at all since there are some variants of the ultra that havent been upgraded to oreo yet and there are ones that have been upgraded very recently so basically that means that support for the ultra isnt complely dropped aatleast not yet
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I've contacted HTC about this, apparently ill get an answer from the correct department in the next few days. Not updating a year and a half old device would be atrocious and would for sure make this the last HTC device I purchase.
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And what? Have you got a response from HTC?
I'm done with HTC devices . They doing the same mistakes as Microsoft did with there phone's. They didn't listen to there customers and Lumia line ( windows phone) went down. It will be the same situation with HTC. Wait and see
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I've contacted HTC about this, apparently ill get an answer from the correct department in the next few days. Not updating a year and a half old device would be atrocious and would for sure make this the last HTC device I purchase.
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As a new Xiaomi phone owner I have no idea what to expect. Do we get 2 year full support? Android Q and Android R?
They say one but do different.. because they make so much new phone,in their interest is to sell as more they can so.. you can be happy with one year support.. but hardware are so good and we have developer who give new lives to this phones when Xaomi stop supporting us.
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They say one but do different.. because they make so much new phone,in their interest is to sell as more they can so.. you can be happy with one year support.. but hardware are so good and we have developer who give new lives to this phones when Xaomi stop supporting us.
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? That don't sound so good. I assumed that 2 years was to expect, but I after buying this phone remembered that 2 years are, most likely, only for flagship phones. I hope We will see at least 1 year.
i also hope so. I only know that we will for sure get MUIU 11 and Android Q.. maybe
The good news is that this phone has sold really well, which increases the chances for good custom ROM support after Mi gives up on it.
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The good news is that this phone has sold really well, which increases the chances for good custom ROM support after Mi gives up on it.
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Hopefully that's the case... Also a new Xiaomi owner here
judging from the previous iterations of xiaomi phone models, they only provide a single version upgrade to launch OS. you can expect that trend to continue.
but with the kernel code posted in github, this phone will be receiving XDA support for at least 5 years after xiaomi stops supporting it... given that the Redmi 1S is still being supported :good:
I usually use phone for about two years, but lately around 1 year (that is bad). I hope I can use this phone for atleast 2 years. Xiaomi phones have good development community, so phone can have support for longer.
When I was considering buying a Oneplus 1+8 pro I was being told by YT influencers and media that if you like clean and good OS with frequent updates and longterm support that Oneplus is the way to go.
It has now been over 4 months since last update and AFAIK nothing is happening on that matter.
We have OB2 which is nowhere near being ready for daily driver. Even when it is released as stable I bet it will be even worse as what the current 10 is.
We have updates coming out for the 7 and Nord series but nothing for the 8.
If somebody wants to claim that there is nothing to update I will call them idiots. This OS is nowhere near to the level of the OSs I had on my previous Samsung and Apple phones. There are all sorts of issues which are not being addresed by Oneplus.
Am I the only one having a problem with that fact?
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There are monthly updates, we have to wait for android 11 like everyone else.
Use Oxygen updater or look here: https://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-8-pro-update-1108368/
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It has now been over 4 months since last update and AFAIK nothing is happening on that matter.
We have OB2 which is nowhere near being ready for daily driver. Even when it is released as stable I bet it will be even worse as what the current 10 is.
We have updates coming out for the 7 and Nord series but nothing for the 8.
If somebody wants to claim that there is nothing to update I will call them idiots. This OS is nowhere near to the level of the OSs I had on my previous Samsung and Apple phones. There are all sorts of issues which are not being addresed by Oneplus.
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1st - OB2 is like 3 weeks old, not 4 months. Hope you don't expect Stable A11 days after Pixels.
2nd - if you believe YT influencers, then I wish you good luck.
3rd - security updates are spot on.
4th - I use OB2 since the release day and have no complains. Eventually high battery use of Google Play Store app. Nothing crazy.
]1st - I was referring to stable A10. Latest update was released Aug 15, 2020. So not 4 months but 2. Still long time ago.
2nd -I cannot establish my own opinion since I have no chance to see these phones in person before purchase. Also this is nowadays normal and best way to buy stuff.
3rd - No they are not. The latest stable version is on August security patch. We are now in the middle of October. Even Samsung is pushing that as we speak.
4th - I use my phone for work so no I will not run beta SW on it.
Samsung are better with security updates, but oneplus will get android 11 first
No complaints with 8 Pro updates this year...
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When I was considering buying a Oneplus 1+8 pro I was being told by YT influencers and media that if you like clean and good OS with frequent updates and longterm support that Oneplus is the way to go.
It has now been over 4 months since last update and AFAIK nothing is happening on that matter.
We have OB2 which is nowhere near being ready for daily driver. Even when it is released as stable I bet it will be even worse as what the current 10 is.
We have updates coming out for the 7 and Nord series but nothing for the 8.
If somebody wants to claim that there is nothing to update I will call them idiots. This OS is nowhere near to the level of the OSs I had on my previous Samsung and Apple phones. There are all sorts of issues which are not being addresed by Oneplus.
Am I the only one having a problem with that fact?
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First off. Don't listen to YouTubers, and influencers, I think I would poke someone in the eye of they told me that's what they did for a job..
OnePlus absolutely smashes the other OEM's in regards to updates, Huawei, old HTC, Sammy, LG, Sony, sorry but none of them come close .
Pixel? Sure that's the source, but the shortcomings Vs pixel on the OnePlus, it makes up for with a bigger battery and IMHO a better Dev community and a course matched beta program.
You can't go wrong with OnePlus tbh.
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First off. Don't listen to YouTubers, and influencers, I think I would poke someone in the eye of they told me that's what they did for a job..
OnePlus absolutely smashes the other OEM's in regards to updates, Huawei, old HTC, Sammy, LG, Sony, sorry but none of them come close .
Pixel? Sure that's the source, but the shortcomings Vs pixel on the OnePlus, it makes up for with a bigger battery and IMHO a better Dev community and a course matched beta program.
You can't go wrong with OnePlus tbh.
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Based on this report your claims have no foundations to stand on. Oneplus released 12 updates since the phone launched but most of them were minor updates and fixed nothing. Only one major update. I would not classify that in the "smashing other OEMs" category.
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Based on this report your claims have no foundations to stand on. Oneplus released 12 updates since the phone launched but most of them were minor updates and fixed nothing. Only one major update. I would not classify that in the "smashing other OEMs" category.
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12 updates in 6 months is pretty good stats. Small or not. I have had all other brands and came back to OnePlus (I had the 6T as well). Even stock, it is a great OS. But, everyone has their own opinion.
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Based on this report your claims have no foundations to stand on. Oneplus released 12 updates since the phone launched but most of them were minor updates and fixed nothing. Only one major update. I would not classify that in the "smashing other OEMs" category.
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No foundations? Perhaps the fact that OnePlus actually release stable OS' in a timely manner with very little need to change anything, OOS is an extremely stable and fast skin for Android..very light too.
Security update comes out OnePlus gets it... new OS in development, we get it early.....to what OEM are you referring?
Huawei does not offer this speed nor does it offer a beta program like this, Samsung didn't either if memory serves, Sony was pitiful and splintered (as was Huawei (due to device variants /regions) LG (do people still buy these types of phones? Motorola (budget phone not in the same league)
I've had a lot of phones so I have some experience here, this is a public forum, you can take my advice or you can move on, what I won't do is try to convince you against something you appear to have an agenda towards, personally I can say without prejudice or bias that the OnePlus 8 pro is the best phone on the market right now, very few people would argue that point.
Updates are on point, end of story.
A good OEM won't release huge updates because they have nothing to fix, meaning it was done right the first time, a bad OEM will do the opposite, like Samsung releasing a £1500 phone with a camera that won't focus.
Oh wow just saw your end of post, you compared an android device to apple.
Oh dear.
Tell me can you Bluetooth files yet? Is apple still crippling it's OS due to an "update" ?
Don't compare any android device to apple you'll get very little sympathy here in that regard.
Samsung? Really? Exynos processor in the non US variants? And you're supporting them? Anyone who likes android or has an ounce of respect for themselves would boycott them and sign the petition to get Snapdragon in all their phones..
I wouldn't swap my OnePlus if you offered me both the iPhone XS and the ultra.
Lastly I and the absolute vast majority of people have not and do not have any issue with our OnePlus phone.
Fastest phone out not.
Battery life? I get 10 hours SOT consistently, even when gaming.
What issues are you referring to? If it's green tint (see above)