Auto cam vs note 7 cam? - LG V20 Questions & Answers

Hey all. I have a Note 7. I am considering this phone as a replacement. How is the camera on auto? I've heard it's not good. How does it compare to Note 7 auto?

I switched from Note 7 to V20.
It works fine. But HDR is nowhere near as good as Samsung.
The N7 wins hands down in the camera department. If the camera is important to you, the S7 and S7 Edge has similar sensors.

BozQ said:
I switched from Note 7 to V20.
It works fine. But HDR is nowhere near as good as Samsung.
The N7 wins hands down in the camera department. If the camera is important to you, the S7 and S7 Edge has similar sensors.
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Camera is important but screen size is more important. S7 edge is too small. I've heard the camera on manual is much better than auto. Is this true? If so how can I learn how to use camera in manual mode?

S7 Edge is what? 5.5 inch? Not a whole lot smaller than Note 7.
Full manual may produce desirable results, and the V20 also allows you to save in RAW format. However, to understand manual mode is to learn how to take pictures with a DSLR. Something I will not go into detail here. You have to find your own resource.
Try searching "Elements of Photography" app in the Google Play store. Pay for the full content inside, and learn about photography with a real camera.
It's important to understand the "Exposure Triangle" before proceeding to take pictures in Manual Mode.

thegameksk said:
Camera is important but screen size is more important. S7 edge is too small. I've heard the camera on manual is much better than auto. Is this true? If so how can I learn how to use camera in manual mode?
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It's actually really easy to learn manual photography with the V20 as it gives you a lot of instant feedback, even before you take a photo. Just flip it over to manual and start playing. If you set it too dark, you'll see it on the screen before you click the shutter. Too light? Same deal. Aperture is locked down. The only two exposure parameters you have to play with are shutter speed and ISO. Essentially, if one goes up, the other goes down. Other than that, you have focus if you want. That has a guide built in called focus peaking which highlights what is in focus as you adjust the slider. WB is the other part and you can leave that on auto as most cameras do a decent job. Sometimes it is good to override it though since it is going to make whites white even if they weren't necessarily white in the environment shot. Give it a go. The V20 makes it very easy to learn.

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Making the most out of the camera

Hey guys, would just like to start a discussion on tips/tweaks that are possible on the edge's camera. I'm by no means a professional photographer but would like to learn how to take a good photo from a smartphone. Maybe someone who is pro and in the know can help.
Tbh, its not like edge's cam is bad but I envy the iphone 6's camera performance especially in too bright (they just come off darker) and low light (not bright enough) scenarios. This is most apparent when I try to take a spherical/panoramic shot with google camera, the sky wont just have the same 'brightness' when the spherical photo is stitched completely.
It seems Ip6 users can just take good photos effortlessly. In dark scenarios, ip6 users have that feature where you can just click on the area thats too dark and it magically becomes brighter without spoiling the overall photo quality.
Spec wise the edge's cam should be superior so imo the edge cam can perform close to if not as good as the ip6's with the right settings/tweaks. So hoping someone can share their knowledge regarding this. Thank you.
I love the camera so far. I also use Procamera and A Better Camera. I downloaded the add ons and am playimg with them all. I really like the placement of the controls on the Edge. It takes a bit to get used to in landscape mode, however. I would like a "low light" or "night" setting. Maybe I just haven't found it yet!
Update 2/9/15: found out the camera automatically switches to night mode in low light. Pretty cool!
I've been using Camera Zoom FX for when I need the most amount of manual adjustments to my camera.
Most the time the stock camera app can handle most situations but sometimes manual is needed and Camera Zoom has always done the job for me.
But this is an app that requires some photography knowledge and not sure if this is what you are looking for since you are looking for something that is easy to use like the I6 camera.
I've been playing more and more with the camera. I am really liking it. I was getting frustrated with the "shot and more" mode until I realized some only work in the landscape mode. Panning really gives a great effect,! This api is very intuitive. I hear the Lollipop version is even better. Can't wait.
Are there any recommended setting for the Camera ?
Thanks
I've been playing around with it and usually leave it at a lower size (between 2-3m). I find you have to hold it really still. Action shot mode always comes out more blurry. I tend to like the shot and more mode so I can choose the best picture. Auto does great for closeups and distant, plus I like how it automatically changes to night mode in darker settings.
If you are having difficulty, try a higher ISO, like 800. I had to do that on my HTC Inspire.
May i know which canera audio file to delete when click in android 6?
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LG G4 dissapointed with camera :(

Hi!
I bought Lg G4 very much for its camera, but my Nexus 6 still takes better pictures...........
First pic is from g4 and second is from Nexus 6. G4 is picking up sunlight and making pictures to bright......very dissapointed.
They look about the same to me. Try some different shots I guess.
I am quite impressed with G4 camera, beats the S6 edge and Priv we have.
milan187 said:
They look about the same to me. Try some different shots I guess.
I am quite impressed with G4 camera, beats the S6 edge and Priv we have.
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You can see the sunbeam on the back of the chair on the G4.
Here is two other examples. First one from Nexus 6, second one from G4. Nexus 6 pic is much more vivid and clear, LG G4 is to bright and catches all sunlight on the picture,
Ohh yah I see it there. Have you tried dark shots with out sun light.
I don't have a Nexus 6 to compare but I do wonder if maybe you got a bad camera on a G4 (if that is possible).
Are you on the latest version too, M?
It may make a difference where you touch to focus too.
Jaxione said:
You can see the sunbeam on the back of the chair on the G4.
Here is two other examples. First one from Nexus 6, second one from G4. Nexus 6 pic is much more vivid and clear, LG G4 is to bright and catches all sunlight on the picture,
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This is just different focus points. G4 has laser focus and probably focuses on another area. Indoor pictures are crap anyway especially when shot against bright windows.
milan187 said:
Ohh yah I see it there. Have you tried dark shots with out sun light.
I don't have a Nexus 6 to compare but I do wonder if maybe you got a bad camera on a G4 (if that is possible).
Are you on the latest version too, M?
It may make a difference where you touch to focus too.
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Yes i am on Marshmallow. Still picks up every sunbeam there is, doesent matter where I focus. Here is another example. The sunbeam looks like a white mark across the picture, my Nexus 6 does not pick up that at all
see if this help:
clean the camera lens, then take a shot;
i have my G4 for 3 weeks and i love photography ! i have photos that make me say WT...lolololol
exemples:
https://goo.gl/photos/1guniv2cwdW3vBx9A
https://goo.gl/photos/CMxKBp5KfnUeVndN6
https://goo.gl/photos/FkYgDs6A2dQiTNjD7
all in manual mode
You have full manual controls with RAW capability. Regardless of how auto works, tweaking manual settings will produce far better shots than the Nexus 6 would ever be capable of producing.
Now for the helpful less "fan boy sounding" response: LG tend to blow out highlights in the background to produce a proper exposure for the main subject.
Even the G5 looks like this will be the case, as sampled here
Personally, I think Samsung nailed the auto camera experience with the S6 generation phones. LG have more capability, but it's lessened by the fact most users are not photographers.
Kind of looking forward to the S7 for this reason, it brings back all the features I couldn't tolerate losing with the S6 and enhances the camera even more.
To fix your problem (particularly in environments like your photos)
Turn the brightness up to about 80% with auto brightness disabled
Switch to manual in the camera
Keep everything auto, but fiddle with ISO and exposure time.
Keep the ISO as low as possible while making sure you can take a photo without motion blur from hand shakes (1/30 is as slow as I go usually)
When it looks right on screen, take the shot.
If in doubt and you're feeling technogically empowered, enable RAW.
Happy snapping
Your shooting scene is a difficult one. Play with Manual. The G4 camera is plain excellent. Ecstatic even.
If you want to record a video you are doomed, no manual mode there. Enjoy massive overexposure and over saturated colors. And the retarded ois of course...
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Night shots are amazing. I took this one without flash in Netherlands. The best thing is it was with auto mode. In my opinion better camera than any other smarts.
http://i.imgur.com/lO18AzQ.jpg
Thanks all for your replies. Its going back. I want a phone with a camera who can take ok pictures without having to fiddle with manual settings. I am no photographer and have no interest in changing settings for every scenario.
İ thing ur LG g4's camera has some problem cause i also used h815 and right now h818p mine was not like that bad u can look my photo's from the link
Edit I'm not photographer also it's really easy to learn manual settings just try but automatic also not bad
https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B0YMxD-WRGRoVnNudThXN01Fcms/edit
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krater1212 said:
Night shots are amazing. I took this one without flash in Netherlands. The best thing is it was with auto mode. In my opinion better camera than any other smarts.
http://i.imgur.com/lO18AzQ.jpg
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Good shot is it automatic or Manuel if Manuel than if u was try to ISO 50 and 4second exposure u can get gread pics u can also check my photos if u want
I went through my gallery to check indoor pictures. Definitely a faulty unit/optics/glass you have there, did not notice the same effect here.
Maybe you (OP) are looking at it from a wrong angle. I think the G4 camera just records what is sees. It's not its fault that there are sun rays. On the other hand, the N6 doesn't capture what there really is. Besides, the net is full of tutorials how to catch sunbeams. With G4 you get it out of the box.
This must be a problem with dirt on the lens or the protective glass, nothing to do with the camera, the camera is awesome. Could even be on the inside so it might be hard to remove without disassembling the phone.
KoRoZIV said:
If you want to record a video you are doomed, no manual mode there. Enjoy massive overexposure and over saturated colors. And the retarded ois of course...
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Yeah the OIS is frankly terrible. I don't take any video with my G4 because of it.
gerhard_wa said:
This must be a problem with dirt on the lens or the protective glass, nothing to do with the camera, the camera is awesome. Could even be on the inside so it might be hard to remove without disassembling the phone.
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Yep, looks to me like the lens had a smear or something on it.
I have 505 serial dual h818N. Having a vignette effect when on 60 fps mode. Some users reported that they have no issue like mine. Ois is terrible on my device IMHO.
KoRoZIV said:
If you want to record a video you are doomed, no manual mode there. Enjoy massive overexposure and over saturated colors. And the retarded ois of course...
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I just own the G4 and I have to say hat video quality exposure and all that stuff its the best. maybe you need to learn a bit on how to use a proper camera.

GS6 vs GS7 Camera Samples

I currently own both the GS6 and GS7 so I thought I'd do a side by side comparison between the two cameras. If you're interested you can see the full resolution files here.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bz0WeUKyeOS4MVdvQ2hYQ29IYUU&usp=sharing
The files are named accordingly. I pretty much held the phones on top of each other so the FOV may be slightly different. Both phones were in "Auto" mode with the flash off and HDR set to auto.
As far as I can tell, they both have their strengths and weaknesses. I like the wider angle of the GS7 but the GS6 seems to retain much more detail even in lower light situations. The GS7 seems to apply a lot more noise reduction which blurs fine details. the GS7 has a much nicer bokeh (background blur) due to its larger aperture.
The S6 looks much better to me. Hopefully a software fix takes care of the camera.
So strange...
Thanks for the pics !
I prefer the S7 ones, looks better in most cases.
Plus faster focus, bigger FOV = :good:
A bit disappointing. Have the S7 Edge on order but this bunch of pictures really makes me wonder if I would cancel it. The detail is much nicer on the S6, the S7 smooths everything to a blur so the details disappear. Need to se more pictures from S7 users to really decide
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A bit disappointing. Have the S7 Edge on order but this bunch of pictures really makes me wonder if I would cancel it. The detail is much nicer on the S6, the S7 smooths everything to a blur so the details disappear. Need to se more pictures from S7 users to really decide
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It is a little disappointing after all the hype that Samsung made about the camera. I think it could be improved with firmware updates as the main issue seems to be the software noise reduction. They went too heavy with it and it blurs over fine details. It would be nice if they gave the user the ability to control it with "high/med/low" settings instead of just blasting it all over every picture.
In the end I'm OK with the camera, it takes good pictures and the wider angle, larger aperture makes it worth it. I wouldn't say the camera is WORSE than the S6 but it's not better either. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. the AF on the S7 is awwwwesome though.
it's strange how much bad it is... especially when you see the reviews (now 2 reviews exists and show results so different than this - a lot better).
Are you sur you have remove lens protection?
Wider angle? Am I missing something about the S7 camera? The 4:3 actually makes it a narrower angle, not wider (that would be 16:9)?
The format of the sensor has nothing to do with the angle, the focal length is the key. http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/basics/19/01.htm
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dills84 said:
It is a little disappointing after all the hype that Samsung made about the camera. I think it could be improved with firmware updates as the main issue seems to be the software noise reduction. They went too heavy with it and it blurs over fine details. It would be nice if they gave the user the ability to control it with "high/med/low" settings instead of just blasting it all over every picture.
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You forgot the "without" setting
xxaarraa said:
Wider angle? Am I missing something about the S7 camera? The 4:3 actually makes it a narrower angle, not wider (that would be 16:9)?
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The S7 has a wider field of view even with its 4:3 aspect ratio. If you crop an S7 image to 16:9 it looks like an S6 image.
first line of photos i think S7 is better, but in low light it looks like crap too much post processing, i wonder if there is a way to ask Sammy about it, if it software fault it can be easily fixed.
Photo 6 was a surprise for me, i expected the S7 better than the S6 in low light.. Maybe the EXIF data explains a bit why.
S6 photo 6 : Auto exposure, Program AE, 1/10 sec, f/1.9, ISO 500
S7 photo 6 : Auto exposure, Program AE, 1/25 sec, f/1.7, ISO 160
Pierre118 said:
Photo 6 was a surprise for me, i expected the S7 better than the S6 in low light.. Maybe the EXIF data explains a bit why.
S6 photo 6 : Auto exposure, Program AE, 1/10 sec, f/1.9, ISO 500
S7 photo 6 : Auto exposure, Program AE, 1/25 sec, f/1.7, ISO 160
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Yeah that's kind of my fault. I think the GS6 light metered the dark and the GS7 metered to the computer screen. I was holding both phones on top of each other to try to get the same image but I had the S6 slightly aimed down a bit.
dills84 said:
Yeah that's kind of my fault. I think the GS6 light metered the dark and the GS7 metered to the computer screen. I was holding both phones on top of each other to try to get the same image but I had the S6 slightly aimed down a bit.
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Yes, it looks like the S6 had the focus on the keyboard, and the S7 on the computer screen. That can explain the difference in lightning.
Interesting to note that in auto and default manual it goes for point metering (atleast by observed by some photos exif). Should be matrix metering else the metering will be measured on the surface you are aiming at in a very small box area. If it's dark it will most likely overexpose and if it's bright it will most likely underexpose and would require manual EV adjustment for correct exposure. This might explain why quite a lot of S7 photos just look bad and either overexposed or underexposed and lots of highlight clipping.
My (amateur) opinion is that when you want to compare low light photo's, the focus must be the same. In picture 6 you can see that the best. Do I have a point?
S6 wins because of the higher MP count you can zoom way more on the photo's on the s6 so again samsung kinda fails and doubt they can make it better with updates.
I did not pixel peep but on my screen the S7 pictures look better than S6 ones? More lights, higher dynamic, better focus?
lopri said:
I did not pixel peep but on my screen the S7 pictures look better than S6 ones? More lights, higher dynamic, better focus?
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But but but... i can zoom in more!
RiTCHiE007 said:
S6 wins because of the higher MP count you can zoom way more on the photo's on the s6 so again samsung kinda fails and doubt they can make it better with updates.
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Im sure they can make the s6 focus faster with an update, or increase the sensor size with an update... just leave ok.

camera tips

Coming from the note 7, I've gotten used to setting it on auto, taking a pic, and getting great pictures... Something I'm not seeing with the v20.
Any tips or settings that may help?
Low light pics area slow to focus and results are so so.
Pictures of moving people even in medium light are blurred
I'll try to write something up later. How much photo experience do you have? How much digital photo knowledge base do you have? (So I know what starting point to use. Photography is a lot of art meets science. It's probably one of the better examples of a right and left brain balance.)
Hmm..I knowthat shutter speed and aperture go together. How they let more more light in by opening longer or wider.
I've tried taking pictures using auto and manual (no change in any settings)..and they come out similar. Except auto seems to do a better job auto focusing.
There's a setting buried in the menu to help with tracking. Make sure you have that on. Aperture is locked down on cellphones so you only really get to play with shutter speed and ISO. Unfortunately, as ISO goes up, so does the noise coming off the sensor. So you really have to balance getting a shutter speed that's just fast enough without getting too crazy with the ISO. This will apply to all cellphones no matter what anyone tries to tell you. (And this is why the pros will always shoot with full frame DSLR's. Much larger sensor, better noise handling, can really crank up the ISO with little ill effect.)
If you're getting blurring motion, you need a faster shutter speed which means higher ISO..... or...... you can practice the old school way and get a cool effect by practicing tracking your subject by hand. I practiced with my DSLR by tracking swallows and dragonflies in flight. For a phone, I think kids running around is about the equivalent. It's difficult but highly rewarding once you get it.
Light, and lots of it, will be your friend on small sensors like these. Cranking up the ISO for darker situations means one of two things will happen. A) You will get a lot of noise from the gain applied to the signal coming off of the sensor. Depending on the quality of the noise coming off of it, this can either be bad or good. For a while, Nikon was known for having a noise quality at higher ISO's that made for excellent B&W's. I'm actually investigating that with this camera as I think it has potential. B) Aggressive noise reduction is applied to the image and it butter faces the heck out of an image and turns it all water color. I have to zoom in way too far than one should before I see this happening. So it looks like noise reduction is being applied on a smaller scale which leaves better detail and might be why I'm seeing an agreeable noise profile. A few more test shots are needed though.
I will note that this all applies to the main shooting assembly (the 16mp f1.8 sensor). The wide shooting assembly is a smaller sensor and the aperture is a smaller f2.4. So it'll require a higher ISO for the same shutter speed and it's going to be noisier shot for shot no matter what and it isn't as nice of a noise profile as the main sensor.
Camera very disappointing. My G3 takes far more better pictures than this. Do you think any software updates could improve on the quality?
justthefacts said:
Camera very disappointing. My G3 takes far more better pictures than this. Do you think any software updates could improve on the quality?
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They could, maybe. Depends. What are you disappointed in exactly?
Auto mode. It sucks. 2 generation old note4 can take far better pictures on auto. LG has the chops to make a great camera so wtf happened on this $800 phone?
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Auto mode. It sucks. 2 generation old note4 can take far better pictures on auto. LG has the chops to make a great camera so wtf happened on this $800 phone?
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Manual mode. Manual mode happened and it's pretty damn good. A bit more manual control would make it great. (Let me decide when image stabilization is on, for instance.) This phone wasn't really about auto. That's what the Pixel is about to every degree. The V20 is about people who want to have more control over their content creation without getting too overboard.
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Manual mode. Manual mode happened and it's pretty damn good. A bit more manual control would make it great. (Let me decide when image stabilization is on, for instance.) This phone wasn't really about auto. That's what the Pixel is about to every degree. The V20 is about people who want to have more control over their content creation without getting too overboard.
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I don't mind that. It's just auto can Bork up a picture real quick. Picking the right focus point helps with light situations a lot but still auto should be more decent out of the box. Why? Because half the rest you need to take the shot right away. Manual is fine and not too much complaints about it besides the voice trigger turning itself off all the time. If the manual mode was terrible too I'd pro a lot have returned the phone already. Manual, the audio, battery life, swappable battery and reception help make up for auto's inconsistency.
CHH2 said:
Manual mode. Manual mode happened and it's pretty damn good. A bit more manual control would make it great. (Let me decide when image stabilization is on, for instance.) This phone wasn't really about auto. That's what the Pixel is about to every degree. The V20 is about people who want to have more control over their content creation without getting too overboard.
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I want more control over the content of my phone but yet. I can not root my phone on Sprint.[emoji35]
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@rbiter said:
I don't mind that. It's just auto can Bork up a picture real quick. Picking the right focus point helps with light situations a lot but still auto should be more decent out of the box. Why? Because half the rest you need to take the shot right away. Manual is fine and not too much complaints about it besides the voice trigger turning itself off all the time. If the manual mode was terrible too I'd pro a lot have returned the phone already. Manual, the audio, battery life, swappable battery and reception help make up for auto's inconsistency.
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Auto is consistent. You just have to understand what's going on. I was really hoping that auto would have EV adjustment so we could change the bias of the exposure. The camera wants to expose a little bright to help control noise that you'll get from a small sensor. I'll take a bit of noise for a darker exposure. So to that end, I'll probably shoot manual. All I really need to do is set a minimum shutter speed and adjust ISO from there when I open the camera. That can all occur pretty fast.
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I want more control over the content of my phone but yet. I can not root my phone on Sprint.[emoji35]
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Um, you don't need root for content control. A) Your complaint needs to be in the proper thread. This is about photo/video, not root. B) Sprint. (I live in their HQ city and see their CEO regularly at some of my favorite haunts. Don't expect any miracles from Sprint. It's a top down issue.)
My opinion, the camera as a hardware is good, however, LG needs to upgrade the camera app, specially with auto mood, this coming from a user that have used Samsung for a very long time, and now very disappointing with LG camera
i hope LG is reading this, and can push that kind of update soon..
Amjad.AbdulGhani said:
My opinion, the camera as a hardware is good, however, LG needs to upgrade the camera app, specially with auto mood, this coming from a user that have used Samsung for a very long time, and now very disappointing with LG camera
i hope LG is reading this, and can push that kind of update soon..
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I agree. I came from the note 3 and i was taking side by side and the note 3 was taking better pics! Not sure if there's an issue with my v20 but ilI'lll be returning it today. Not impressed at all
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Auto is consistent. You just have to understand what's going on. I was really hoping that auto would have EV adjustment so we could change the bias of the exposure. The camera wants to expose a little bright to help control noise that you'll get from a small sensor. I'll take a bit of noise for a darker exposure. So to that end, I'll probably shoot manual. All I really need to do is set a minimum shutter speed and adjust ISO from there when I open the camera. That can all occur pretty fast.
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Auto is NOT consistent. With that being said, I've been getting better pictures, but still taking multiple pictures with different focal points to make sure I get at least one good pic of what I want. Auto works well sometimes, just needs consistency. Obviously the camera is capable of taking great pictures in almost any setting. Even low light. The hardest is when you have a very bright source of light somewhere and auto doesn't do well unless you find the right focal point, and that being where I have to take multiple pics the most. Manual can work too, but I'm not even an amateur photographer so I've been practicing to get better pictures with less adjusting. And by that I mean dialing it in less and getting the pic I want faster from practice and skill rather than paying around experimenting. It's been a learning curve for me and quite a few others. I'm quite sure a firmware update can help.
Also, I am used to my note 4 taking g great pics with auto. Also used to the extra sharpening. I've noticed the extra sharpening and do prefer more natural pictures like the lg or iPhones take. But otoh, many of my pictures at work benefit from the extra sharpening big time and kind of why I don't mind it. That extra sharpening is very very useful when magnification is needed at magnifying glass level and sometimes almost microscopic levels for very fine print, certain details on a board or power supply and especially both those reasons I'm very hard to reach places without taking everything apart.
With that being said, I also wish LG would add a toggle for sharpening when processing the pictures in auto and manual mode. Even though LG leans towards more natural pictures, a sharpen toggle would help a lot. I've just decided to keep using my v20 as a daily driver by a very slim margin. Miss my amoled and adblocking. Don't miss all the extra tweaking I had to do manually along with xposed to get my note4 the way I wanted. LG has caught up alot in their UI. It used to be terrible. But with the theme and some of the options I could live with root just to get adblocking. But when I do root I will be doing so.e tweaking g to get more battery life. And hopefully a kind developer will make a kernel with only voltage control enabled so I can under volt my CPU some.
The problem is the massive herd of Samsung users (I am one also) that were able to just point and shoot. The software did the all the work on the sammy phones. With the V20 we have to work a little to get a great picture. I noticed it today when taking a picture for of my receipts for the headphone deal.
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Auto is NOT consistent. With that being said, I've been getting better pictures, but still taking multiple pictures with different focal points to make sure I get at least one good pic of what I want. Auto works well sometimes, just needs consistency. Obviously the camera is capable of taking great pictures in almost any setting. Even low light. The hardest is when you have a very bright source of light somewhere and auto doesn't do well unless you find the right focal point, and that being where I have to take multiple pics the most. Manual can work too, but I'm not even an amateur photographer so I've been practicing to get better pictures with less adjusting. And by that I mean dialing it in less and getting the pic I want faster from practice and skill rather than paying around experimenting. It's been a learning curve for me and quite a few others. I'm quite sure a firmware update can help.
Also, I am used to my note 4 taking g great pics with auto. Also used to the extra sharpening. I've noticed the extra sharpening and do prefer more natural pictures like the lg or iPhones take. But otoh, many of my pictures at work benefit from the extra sharpening big time and kind of why I don't mind it. That extra sharpening is very very useful when magnification is needed at magnifying glass level and sometimes almost microscopic levels for very fine print, certain details on a board or power supply and especially both those reasons I'm very hard to reach places without taking everything apart.
With that being said, I also wish LG would add a toggle for sharpening when processing the pictures in auto and manual mode. Even though LG leans towards more natural pictures, a sharpen toggle would help a lot. I've just decided to keep using my v20 as a daily driver by a very slim margin. Miss my amoled and adblocking. Don't miss all the extra tweaking I had to do manually along with xposed to get my note4 the way I wanted. LG has caught up alot in their UI. It used to be terrible. But with the theme and some of the options I could live with root just to get adblocking. But when I do root I will be doing so.e tweaking g to get more battery life. And hopefully a kind developer will make a kernel with only voltage control enabled so I can under volt my CPU some.
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It is pretty consistent, you just have to understand what it is consistently doing. It's just running a program like anything else. It doesn't do things on a wild hair. That said, if you want more sharpening, I highly suggest Snapseed. It's a free app after Google bought the parent company Nik. Nik makes some of the best plug-ins for professional editing of photos. This is probably one of the more powerful photo editing apps you can get on a phone. It even edits RAW photos from the V20.
Madelynn28 said:
The problem is the massive herd of Samsung users (I am one also) that were able to just point and shoot. The software did the all the work on the sammy phones. With the V20 we have to work a little to get a great picture. I noticed it today when taking a picture for of my receipts for the headphone deal.
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I guess since I do a lot of photo work, I'm used to the idea that no camera will ever spit out a shot that's perfect right out of the box, auto or not. (Not even the three Samsungs I owned, they needed just as much adjustment as any other phone.) All images out of a camera can and do need work. For me, I feel that I don't really need to do anything out of my ordinary workflow to get images I want with the V20. I'm actually really looking forward to capturing some more classic images with this phone that haven't been achievable in recent times by most sensors these days.
It gives you a lot more options but most people don't want that. Hell I don't even want that. If I am taking a picture with my phone it just needs to get the job done. Anything else I would be using my 80D. By the way thanks for understanding and decoding those terrible sentences I wrote.
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It gives you a lot more options but most people don't want that. Hell I don't even want that. If I am taking a picture with my phone it just needs to get the job done. Anything else I would be using my 80D. By the way thanks for understanding and decoding those terrible sentences I wrote.
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That's the thing though, this phone is made for content creators, not for someone who wants to just shoot in auto all the time. That's what iPhones and Pixels are for, not this phone. This is for those who want and know how to control photo, video and audio creation. I've got full frame DSLRs, smaller mirrorless cameras but I also like to have control over my cellphone so this was a great step in my opinion.
That's fine, but a lot of people were forced here by the Note 7 blowing up. Android people don't want iPhones and not many people buy their phones outright (Pixel). When the top gun gets taken out it makes for a weird environment when people are forced to fill gaps with things they really don't want. There is the edge 7 but it's smaller and the edge screen was trash. Like I said it's a solid phone and is faster than the Note 7. It's just missing somethings I am used too.

If you still doubt the camera, well...

If you have any doubts, especially with low light, well, don't. This is by far the best phone cam I've seen, ever. But that's my opinion if course. All shot in auto mode. Of course, when you blow m up they get grainy and such but if you keep 'm small while viewing the colors, lighting and the whole scene is captured beautifully.
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Very good pictures! I do like the camera on this badboy...
Wow very nice! :good:
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Does suppose to look blurry. That's what all my still imagines look like
Nice shots! Camera does have potential, but the auto-focus has issues. It misses far too often
Goronok said:
Nice shots! Camera does have potential, but the auto-focus has issues. It misses far too often
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Yeah. Wish it had dual pixel focus like the s7
Yes, the dpaf would be awesome. That is the only thing this is missing. Truly remarkable camera, though, even given that.
My Mate 9 pictures are not coming as good as Galaxy S7 Edge. Am I doing something wrong, both phones tested with Auto mode
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My Mate 9 pictures are not coming as good as Galaxy S7 Edge. Am I doing something wrong, both phones tested with Auto mode
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Because it's not as good as the S7's camera, especially in low-light.
i would say they are different. I found the ability to play around with Depth of Field ana amazing tool to create far more professional pictures. But in low light the shots are noisier. so for poitn and shoot / get a picture every time the s7 edge (and iphone) are better in low light. But in good light they are comparable, while the ability to play around with bokeh is amazing.
Try manual mode in low light. Also, make sure you keep your hands as steady as possible... this camera is great, but not quite at the top.
Well if you need more evidence, these are my first shots from the UK version of the Mate 9. Epic.
Here's my first sample of photos from the Mate 9 UK version camera. We really need the software update soon as this improves the quality and features of the camera too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/18/huawei-mate-9-stunning-photos-from-the-camera/
And my first impressions if you're interested. Full review soon.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/17/huawei-mate-9-first-impressions-via-vlog/
^very nice pictures! Does it have HDR+ ?
Excellent photos. Sometimes wonder why to carry that heavy SLR anymore. Maybe from now I should permanently mount telephoto lense on it and let the Mate 9 takes all the wides.
Some more shots from yesterday. Simply stunning camera !!
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/20/huawei-mate-9-more-superb-photos-from-the-camera/
Indeed - wonderful pictures!
Not as good as s7 or pixel camera, but it's still a good camera. 2016 set the bar high for mobile photography and it feels like Huawei are still finding their feet and playing catch up somewhat.
Still though I'm not looking back at the s7. The Mate 9 camera is good enough for my purposes and it beats the s7 and s7 edge in other areas, while also being cheaper than the edge in my country.
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It's better than my S7 in most ways except focus and burst shutter speeds. Quality is better. The Pixel relies on HDR+ which can either create awesome shots or fake looking ones. The Mate 9 is far more natural and decent quality.
So here was my test of the zoom quality , done just before dusk to make it harder. https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/25/huawei-mate-9-opticalhybrid-zoom-camera-samples/
And another post, celebrating the camera of the Mate 9, with some mega action shots too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/2...ts-camera-action-special-modes-and-full-auto/
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It's better than my S7 in most ways except focus and burst shutter speeds. Quality is better. The Pixel relies on HDR+ which can either create awesome shots or fake looking ones. The Mate 9 is far more natural and decent quality.
So here was my test of the zoom quality , done just before dusk to make it harder. https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/25/huawei-mate-9-opticalhybrid-zoom-camera-samples/
And another post, celebrating the camera of the Mate 9, with some mega action shots too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/2...ts-camera-action-special-modes-and-full-auto/
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Love it.

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