Brand New XT1625 MPJ24.139-48: Any options for Root? - Moto G4 Questions & Answers

October 26th, 2016:
The title says it all. What options do I have for root (dump the ads, custom firmware, etc)?
Anything at all?
Any help would be appreciated,
Thank you very much!

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TheDave78 said:
October 26th, 2016:
The title says it all. What options do I have for root (dump the ads, custom firmware, etc)?
Anything at all?
Any help would be appreciated,
Thank you very much!
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Is it the Amazon ad version? If so, then you have very little to no options other than possibly removing the ads.

Tel864 said:
Is it the Amazon ad version? If so, then you have very little to no options other than possibly removing the ads.
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Yes, it is the XT1625. I bought when it was at $120 earlier this week. Initially I did a quick search and found several threads about removing the ads and rooting.
It wasn't till after the purchase when I found all the other threads about no more root / bootloader unlock / removing ads
I was hoping since mine is still on the older -48 version that I had some hope, but it isn't looking like it...

One more question then before I return this.
Can I enable wi-fi tethering an un-rooted Moto G4?

TheDave78 said:
One more question then before I return this.
Can I enable wi-fi tethering an un-rooted Moto G4?
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Depends on your carrier. I cant on AT&T but can on T-Mobile

TheDave78 said:
One more question then before I return this.
Can I enable wi-fi tethering an un-rooted Moto G4?
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I'm not suggesting this because you never know with motorola and their policies but a couple of us bricked our Amazon phones while trying to flash them and had to send them to the service center. They were reflashed with non-Amazon roms at no cost. I wouldn't suggest trying anything though with the Amazon version unrooted. if you can afford it I would highly suggest returning it for the regular version.

I ended up returning it, and for another ~100 got the 32gb model...

TheDave78 said:
October 26th, 2016:
The title says it all. What options do I have for root (dump the ads, custom firmware, etc)?
Anything at all?
Any help would be appreciated,
Thank you very much!
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One reason I didn't opt for saving a few bucks by purchasing the Amazon version of this phone. I've never regretted that decision.

pastorbob62 said:
One reason I didn't opt for saving a few bucks by purchasing the Amazon version of this phone. I've never regretted that decision.
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Hehe, I always regretted getting the Amazon version but accidentally bricking it was the best decision I made when Motorola reflashed it with a retus furmware.

Tel864 said:
Hehe, I always regretted getting the Amazon version but accidentally bricking it was the best decision I made when Motorola reflashed it with a retus furmware.
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Yes, but don't update it via OTA or you will be back to Amazon version (or so I have read).

pastorbob62 said:
Yes, but don't update it via OTA or you will be back to Amazon version (or so I have read).
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I would imagine those were on the Amz update channel but any phone on a retus update channel should not revert.

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System Update today. Question!

I got my phone today, had to change delivery date because I wasn't home on the 12th. There was a system update that improves call quality or something. So, big question. Did anyone who installed stock Moto firmware without the Amazon bloat still get the update? If so, what was the outcome? Thanks. :good:
Doukeyakusha said:
I got my phone today, had to change delivery date because I wasn't home on the 12th. There was a system update that improves call quality or something. So, big question. Did anyone who installed stock Moto firmware without the Amazon bloat still get the update? If so, what was the outcome? Thanks. :good:
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I don't think there was a system update for the US model today.
Tel864 said:
I don't think there was a system update for the US model today.
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I got it (and did it because I know better, but wanted the improved call quality...).
Anyway...
Screenshot attached:
Android security patch level: May 1, 2016
Baseband version:
M8952_70009.08.03.45R ATHENE_RETUSA_CUST
Kernel version
3.10.84-g526019c [email protected] #1
Sun Jun 19 12:08:56 CDT 2016
Build number
MPJ24.139-49
Yeah, U.S. user here. Got it. Wasn't lying Thanks for the screenshot yo.
Thanks...It looks like the build and kernel changed but the baseband remained the same. I'll be curious to see if anyone that flashed over the original Amazon rom gets it.
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I haven't been able to receive the update. Tried searching both when my bootloader was locked running Amazon bloat OS, and unlocked running almost-stock OS.
I imagine it's going to trickle out over time. Previous OTA's have done that. Also, I went ahead and signed up for Motorola's feedback program. I was a soak on tester on two previous phones and hopefully I'll get chosen on this one. Being on the odd roms doesn't matter according to the Motorola engineer I talked to. He said they also push the soaks out to the Consumer Cellular, Straight Talk, etc specific roms just like they do for all Moto roms since they need to be tested like any other rom. A buddy of mine actually got a Consumer Cellular soak rom on his AT&T phone while soak testing.
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I flashed my to stock oem, no update yet.
Thanks for the responses. I haven't done anything to my phone yet....wanted to be certain of some things first lol. Honestly, the amazon ads aren't bothering me like I thought they would. It's a great phone. I'm liking it. But I've had my nexus 5 for a long time, so almost anything is better haha. The quick charge 3.0 is awesome. I am just wondering if the Amazon bloat or ads do hinder the battery life?
Any update on extracting the full bloat Amazon ROM yet for those that want to go back to full Amazon stock?
brockwitting said:
Any update on extracting the full bloat Amazon ROM yet for those that want to go back to full Amazon stock?
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http://rootjunkysdl.com/files/?dir=Moto G 4th Gen XT1625/Remove Amazon Bloat Ads
File is there to add the bloat back.
Been looking...Is this latest version posted anywhere?
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Sorry for the noob question. Does getting an OTA depend on a sim being in the phone or not? My amazon moto g4 is a secondary phone and mostly just on wifi.
markazali said:
Sorry for the noob question. Does getting an OTA depend on a sim being in the phone or not? My amazon moto g4 is a secondary phone and mostly just on wifi.
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Not that noob of a question. I never thought about it that much but I would think no, it doesn't have to be in.
brockwitting said:
Any update on extracting the full bloat Amazon ROM yet for those that want to go back to full Amazon stock?
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Rootjunky is working on a script to flash back to the Amazon firmware using the oem.img from my Amazon Moto G4
---------- Post added at 09:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:10 PM ----------
He says that you'll need an unlocked bootloader to flash the oem.img but after you flash it you will be able to take ota updates.
Anyone know if Verizon has updated their system to accept the phone yet. US version
MustangLife03 said:
Anyone know if Verizon has updated their system to accept the phone yet. US version
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Have you been on the Motorola forums? There's a big thread over there the mods are working on about that. Motorola says they're supposed to work and Verizon says the G4 isn't approved yet. I haven't followed it completely but I thought I saw where some people got their phone activated and some still couldn't.
brockwitting said:
Any update on extracting the full bloat Amazon ROM yet for those that want to go back to full Amazon stock?
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read post 3 it will be help full http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/development/moto-g-4th-gen-how-to-remove-amazon-t3416587
Another probably noob question: it says the update cannot be removed. I allowed Samsung to update my note 2 and then couldn't ever get it to go back. I don't want Lenovo/Amazon to pull the same fast one on me.
Dons11 said:
Another probably noob question: it says the update cannot be removed. I allowed Samsung to update my note 2 and then couldn't ever get it to go back. I don't want Lenovo/Amazon to pull the same fast one on me.
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If I'm reading your question right then no it cant be removed but you can flash the full rom and go back.

Stock ROM for XT1625 US retail version

Hi,
I was rooting my Moto G4 XT1625 US retail version (non-Amazon version) but getting stuck at boot. So, I said, what the heck, I went on to flash CM13 on it. That works but I found battery life to be worse, and so I would like to try to go back to stock (with root of course).
However, I'm having trouble figuring out which is the correct stock ROM from file factory. I'm not sure what is the naming convention, and there doesn't seem to be any easy way to search on file factory. Currently, there are 26 pages with a total of 774 ROMs there.
Thanks.
Hello, in case you haven't resolved your problem yet here is what I did to return my phone to stock. I have the same model, XT1625 (not Amazon). Download this file http://www.filefactory.com/file/28u...PJ24.139-49_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip
Follow these instructions: http://www.stechguide.com/download-stock-firmware-of-moto-g4-and-g4-plus/
good luck
romuloxiii said:
Hello, in case you haven't resolved your problem yet here is what I did to return my phone to stock. I have the same model, XT1625 (not Amazon). Download this file http://www.filefactory.com/file/28u...PJ24.139-49_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip
Follow these instructions: http://www.stechguide.com/download-stock-firmware-of-moto-g4-and-g4-plus/
good luck
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Thank you very much. I managed to restore to stock from a Nandroid backup, but I will download this and keep it as a backup in case I need it in the future.
Still, I wonder about the naming convention of the files. It will make searching in the future a lot easier if we know how they are named.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if you can flash the normal xt1625 retail rom on a boot loader unlocked Amazon xt1625?
MadGoat said:
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if you can flash the normal xt1625 retail rom on a boot loader unlocked Amazon xt1625?
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I did flash an older retail room and it worked but when I tried a later rom it bricked the phone. I had to send it in and Motorola reflashed it with the latest retail rom.
Tel864 said:
I did flash an older retail room and it worked but when I tried a later rom it bricked the phone. I had to send it in and Motorola reflashed it with the latest retail rom.
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They did this under warranty?
pastorbob62 said:
They did this under warranty?
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Yes they did. It was free overnight shipping both ways....I shipped it out with the prepaid label on Sunday and had it back Thursday morning.
Tel864 said:
Yes they did. It was free overnight shipping both ways....I shipped it out with the prepaid label on Sunday and had it back Thursday morning.
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Wow! That is awesome. I always thought if you unlocked it the warranty was void.
pastorbob62 said:
Wow! That is awesome. I always thought if you unlocked it the warranty was void.
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It was never unlocked, I missed the window and waited too late to get my unlock code. My wife needed a phone so I gave her this phone and picked up another non amazon G4 for myself. At least it now has a non-Amazon rom on it and is on the retus update channel instead of AMZ. Maybe I got lucky and they flashed the wrong rom on it but I'm not complaining.
Does anyone have link to stock firmware of XT1625 Amazon Ad variant?
I unlocked the bootloader and tried all the techniques on this forum to remove ads. All methods failed with "Unauthorized software installed" message at boot.
The only method worked was installing APK and running it.
I tried downloading and flashing ATHENE_AMZ_MPJ24.139-64_65_cid50_amz from Motorola website but it does not have motoboot.img as mentioned in the steps.
I would like to re-lock the bootloader but need a stock firmware to do that. Could someone please provide it?
does anyone have this file posted someone else so i don't have to wait 5 hours for it to download. not paying for this.
Quick question for those that have flashed NPJ25.93-14, did they fix the issues with it? Play store downloads? Battery drain? Ghost touches? Camera problems? Music playback? And notifications sound?... It's the only reason I've not flashed the aforementioned ROM... I'm curious.
These were problems first reported when the ROM was released in December. Thanks.
jman_131 said:
Quick question for those that have flashed NPJ25.93-14, did they fix the issues with it? Play store downloads? Battery drain? Ghost touches? Camera problems? Music playback? And notifications sound?... It's the only reason I've not flashed the aforementioned ROM... I'm curious.
These were problems first reported when the ROM was released in December. Thanks.
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The following bugs are known to be fixed -
2G mode in Mobile Networks (Wasn't there after Marshmallow)
Notification Volume (Was low after Marshmallow)
UI Lags (Animations weren't very smooth after last month's Nougat update)
Bluetooth Connection Time (Used to take much longer in the previous build)
http://www.androguider.com/2017/01/moto-g4g4-plus-receives-yet-another.html?m=1
Danny1976 said:
The following bugs are known to be fixed -
2G mode in Mobile Networks (Wasn't there after Marshmallow)
Notification Volume (Was low after Marshmallow)
UI Lags (Animations weren't very smooth after last month's Nougat update)
Bluetooth Connection Time (Used to take much longer in the previous build)
http://www.androguider.com/2017/01/moto-g4g4-plus-receives-yet-another.html?m=1
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In that case I will continue to wait before I upgrade. I have Nougat on my Moto G3, and I like it, but the battery issues(both charging/discharging) are no es bueno. Some people have reported that rebooting into safe mode multiple times, helps with certain issues. YMMV.

XT1641 Nougat Update

I buy a moto G 4 Plus 2 Sims and 2Gb of RAM with firmware MPJ24.139-23.1. But in some posts​ I read that to update to nougat I need the firmware 139.63 but my device says I'm updated. Why?
Another question: If I install TWRP can accept an OTA?
Waycloud said:
I buy a moto G 4 Plus 2 Sims and 2Gb of RAM with firmware MPJ24.139-23.1. But in some posts​ I read that to update to nougat I need the firmware 139.63 but my device says I'm updated. Why?
Another question: If I install TWRP can accept an OTA?
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Has your computer not been upgraded to MPJ24.139-63?
Like you have the xt1641 and I have not missed any ota.
In what state do you have your phone? (Root?)
ThaRandomAndroid said:
Has your computer not been upgraded to MPJ24.139-63?
Like you have the xt1641 and I have not missed any ota.
In what state do you have your phone? (Root?)
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My phone doesn't have any update says the update software.
I buy the phone yesterday unlocked it's all stock.
Waycloud said:
My phone doesn't have any update says the update software.
I buy the phone yesterday unlocked it's all stock.
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Is retail mx?
Waycloud said:
My phone doesn't have any update says the update software.
I buy the phone yesterday unlocked it's all stock.
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If that's the original, unmodified rom that came from the factory, then you should eventually get an ota.
ThaRandomAndroid said:
Is retail mx?
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Yes
Tel864 said:
If that's the original, unmodified rom that came from the factory, then you should eventually get an ota.
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Yes I buy it and do a factory reset and nothing. Weird even the patch of security its from May.
Waycloud said:
Yes I buy it and do a factory reset and nothing. Weird even the patch of security its from May.
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You'll probably eventually get it.
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No, we haven't received any update at all, I have the phone since August and nothing in all of this time. It's so annoying. It's like Lenovo doesn't care at all about us. I'm honestly tired of being treated like a less valuable customer just because of our region :/
sagalfisz said:
No, we haven't received any update at all, I have the phone since August and nothing in all of this time. It's so annoying. It's like Lenovo doesn't care at all about us. I'm honestly tired of being treated like a less valuable customer just because of our region :/
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I want to update it manually but I can't find the 139.63 update for XT1641
Same issues here in Canada...
Yup Canada is always last. Have to wait on carriers
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Waycloud said:
I want to update it manually but I can't find the 139.63 update for XT1641
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I would wait. It hasn't been released for this area yet and if you manual upgrade a soak you may never get the ota. From what I've seen I'd rather Moto wait and give us a more stable release than what's been released so far. I'm not sure why everyone is in such a hurry, we will get it and it will be more stable.
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I have a mexican XT1641 device, I'm actually running the XT1643 N latest update with no problems. When the official XT1641 update rolls out, I will reupdate with that one to recover my original bootloader.
Tel864 said:
I would wait. It hasn't been released for this area yet and if you manual upgrade a soak you may never get the ota. From what I've seen I'd rather Moto wait and give us a more stable release than what's been released so far. I'm not sure why everyone is in such a hurry, we will get it and it will be more stable.
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I want to update because sometimes the devices feels like dumb, for example i open the Facebook app and start very slow and then appear the message that crash.
Waycloud said:
I want to update because sometimes the devices feels like dumb, for example i open the Facebook app and start very slow and then appear the message that crash.
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The Facebook app is generally crappy like that.
It wont improve on Nougat... But if you still want to upgrade search for the fastboot image its safer and easier @Waycloud
arc4d14n said:
It wont improve on Nougat... But if you still want to upgrade search for the fastboot image its safer and easier @Waycloud
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I update via fastboot thanks ?
arc4d14n said:
It wont improve on Nougat... But if you still want to upgrade search for the fastboot image its safer and easier @Waycloud
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Hi, what model do you have and what fastboot image you flashed it?
edgarhz said:
Hi, what model do you have and what fastboot image you flashed it?
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XT1641 retmx, i used https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/android-7-0-install-nougat-official-t3531612 this one,

I bought the xt1625 Moto G 4th Gen Prime Variant 2 weeks ago

I bought the xt1625 Moto G 4th Gen Prime Variant 2 weeks ago and I was able to unlock my bootloader.... So what next?:laugh:
That depends on what you want to do. Read through the guides and don't do anything rash or stupid. There are several good custom ROM's available, or you can install TWRP alone and just flash a custom kernel.
pastorbob62 said:
That depends on what you want to do. Read through the guides and don't do anything rash or stupid. There are several good custom ROM's available, or you can install TWRP alone and just flash a custom kernel.
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Is there a way to get it off the amazon upgrade path yet?
bigunwhistle said:
Is there a way to get it off the amazon upgrade path yet?
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Root it that will do it or install a custom ROM that will do it to
joeeboogz said:
Root it that will do it or install a custom ROM that will do it to
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Even just installing TWRP Recovery will do it.
bigunwhistle said:
I bought the xt1625 Moto G 4th Gen Prime Variant 2 weeks ago and I was able to unlock my bootloader.... So what next?:laugh:
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how did you unlock the bootloader!?! i tried and failed because Motorola doesn't give me the code for being the amazon version
akarxo said:
how did you unlock the bootloader!?! i tried and failed because Motorola doesn't give me the code for being the amazon version
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I just followed the directions on motorola's website. Mine is the the 32gb, could it be old stock?
I purchased the Prime 32gb version from amazon last week and was also able to unlock the bootloader on Motorolas website.
nathantm said:
I purchased the Prime 32gb version from amazon last week and was also able to unlock the bootloader on Motorolas website.
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Do you have the ad supported version? I'm sure it's not
samuel6827 said:
Do you have the ad supported version? I'm sure it's not
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Yes it's the ad supported version. I still have the lockscreen ads and notification pulldown ads. I unlocked bootloader, installed twrp and rooted is all.
Well I'm still bad lucky
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Do you have the ad supported version? I'm sure it's not
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Mine is the ad supported version as well. I've installed twrp and rooted it too.
What did you all do, is there some kind of work around ?
I also have the Amazon Prime version (16GB) and am unable to unlock.. I would LOVE to so I can install LineageOS and jump to 7.0..
samuel6827 said:
What did you all do, is there some kind of work around ?
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No I just followed the standard unlock method using the motorola website.
gideoneer said:
I also have the Amazon Prime version (16GB) and am unable to unlock.. I would LOVE to so I can install LineageOS and jump to 7.0..
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Do you have the 32GB variant? if so give it a try
No I bought the 16gb variant December last year. So I'm trapped
I wonder if the 32gb slipped under the cracks

AT&T K10 receiving update

So at the time of this post, my phone is currently downloading a 1215.98 MB update. Comsidering my last update was only 300 MB, I assume this is nougat. My phone is a k425. I'LL report back once the download is done (which might be a bit; all this weather is killing our internet)
And here's a screenshot for those who are skeptical.
Well the updates almost done; ill report back once I've installed it
Nougat is out for the k425
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Nougat is out for the k425
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Wow. We are waiting for all other models too.
I can also confirm this but with one issue if you use the att go phone version you will not be able to update for a few days as there putting priority on people that have this phone and are under contract. You can work around this by finding a friend and use his sim card as long as there a contract att member to get the update on your phone then switch back after the update. This is only for a few days as the people that are under contract get it first. Sigh
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I can also confirm this but with one issue if you use the att go phone version you will not be able to update for a few days as there putting priority on people that have this phone and are under contract. You can work around this by finding a friend and use his sim card as long as there a contract att member to get the update on your phone then switch back after the update. This is only for a few days as the people that are under contract get it first. Sigh
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It's a good thing that we can build "Lineage OS 14.1" without any hassle.
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It's a good thing that we can build "Lineage OS 14.1" without any hassle.
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Perhaps this will change whether or not we can root this model
Oh wow and now waiting for the mtk variants.
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Oh wow and now waiting for the mtk variants.
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The update is only for t moile and att variants; it seems like they basically paid lg to have them help build this update, so people continue to buy this phone, and not waste so much money on lost sales.
Anyone on MetroPCS get this update?
LG K10 T-MOBILE GOT NOUGAT!
Wow! Thanks! Just checked my phone and got the update.
It's really good news for lg k10 user, But When we will receive nougat update for k10 430dsy?
Jahidxda said:
It's really good news for lg k10 user, But When we will receive nougat update for k10 430dsy?
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Dude, seriously? About 5 out of your 15 posts are asking about nougat for k430dsy, and 5 about rooting it, stop spamming.
Nobody here knows when or even will k430dsy get nougat, because LG won't say anything.
MetroPCS got it, too.
Battery life is notebly worse after install; after clearing cache about a week or two after install helped it improve
woot
AT&T your update process really bad finally after a month and a half They really need to stop all this release in batches crap with updating it easy just allow people with a valid sim to download the update. No if we can just root lg-k425 and nougat be great. Any one know of a easy way to copy the firmware with out root?
copy firmware
Is there any way to copy this frim ware from my device with out Root?
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Is there any way to copy this frim ware from my device with out Root?
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not needed. Firmware is available for download online.

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