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I currently have a tab pro 8.4, but I'm salivating for something that I should have waited for. How do we think this tab compares to the current ones? What does everyone think of the ps4 remote capabilities?
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Yep. Have the tab pro 8.4 too. Wanted Sony, but the Z2 tab was too big.
This should be perfect. But my tab is pretty new.
It probably won't be available in India for a couple of months anyway.. Will seriously consider it.
I just saw a hands on video on android central. It looks like it would give me pretty much the same experience as my tab 8.4(aside from remote play obviously) . So the only thing motivating me now is my love for gadgets and ridding myself of this home button. ?
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I currently have a tab pro 8.4, but I'm salivating for something that I should have waited for. How do we think this tab compares to the current ones? What does everyone think of the ps4 remote capabilities?
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the remote capablilties may be port able
I need to see reviews first, especially the battery life... If GSMArena will rate the video playback for more than 10hrs, then it's golden...
Sub 300 ppi is a deal breaker for me.
Also priced at same level as Retina Mini and Samsung Tab S. However Samsung Tab S has 20% off code which is really its true RRP. Therefore this Sony is expensive.
Only positive is that it looks like it has a dialler. If so I would consider using this as my daily device over my Sony Ultra. (I rarely make or receive phones calls anymore as communication is usually through data).
I am considering this as a replacement for my Ultra. Unlocked SGP621 for me, I am already prepared for an imported unit since I am very skeptical against US availability for an unlocked, unbranded LTE edition. The lack of such information yesterday indicate a huge risk for a new Z2 Tablet LTE flop, aka carrier exclusivity, disabled radio bands and bloatware.
So I expect to buy it from either At GSM or Negri Electronics as I usually do (I got my Xperia Z half a year before a crippled T-Mobile version came and I also owned the Ultra for a similar length of time before they gave it a US release).
I made a mockup of the Z3 Tablet Compact yesterday and it could replace the Ultra without too many problems, it is just a few mm wider than the CP12 power cover I use. Since I read a lot on my device, big screens are a necessity and since it is a tablet, I expect fully operational 213 DPI as well with build.prop edit. The more I check it out, the more convinced I am about it as the "Ultra 2".
One thing I really hope is that they give it a proper keyboard cover, then it would also replace my TF700 as well. They had the BKB50 for the Z2 Tablet but cancelled it but I hope a "BKB40" will arrive for this new baby.
The dialer is also the key enabler as an Ultra replacement in my case as well and I am not afraid of buying an imported device. Getting it through a US carrier is just out of the question.
Well I just bought the Nvidia Shield Tablet, so I wont be getting the Z3 Tablet Compact... but I really want the launcher...
Definitely pre-ordering one as soon as the option is available in the US. I love my Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, but the remote play option is too good to pass up. Not to mention the fact that it's waterproof.
Waiting for the price. It it's closer to $300 I might consider it other wise Tab S 8.4 for me.......
Have the Tab S 8.4. I'm just sick of Samsung's crapwiz and this stupid home button. I'm so tempted to get the z3 tablet, but I will wait for the next Nexus 8.9 I could get behind.
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I'll be getting the LTE version unlocked @ ATGSM like E90 mentioned. Hopefully it'll work out to be my only device for 90% of my tasks (calls, texts, reading, browsing, etc.) Can't wait til Nov. 4th!
Also from the overseas pricing it looks like it'll be $499 for the 16Gb LTE version.
Will this have "tap-to-wake"-functionality? Does anyone know?
November 4th is the release date? Man that's far they all look so good shield tab s
I'm interested, as long as they have a 32GB LTE version. Too bad Samsung keeps screwing up their tablets. Now I have to wait....
Unless something more interesting comes along before then.
Look for it to be $399 in the US for the 16gb WiFi version. I have money already set aside for one. Been wanting a Sony 8" tablet for a while.
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Hah it's funny how the first two posts mention the Tab Pro 8.4. So I got a Tab S 8.4 thinking it would be the ****, but I was disappointed by the performance of the Exynos CPU and Touchwiz, as well as the Knox counter, and how development for the device didn't look very promising. I got a Tab Pro 8.4 for comparison, which I like more than the S, actually, but...
I just had/have this gut feeling there's going to be better devices in the near future. The Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact (shoot whoever names these damn devices) is one such promising device. The other device I'm waiting to hear about definitively is the "Nexus 9" (if it's going to be called that), which is rumored to be an 8.9" 4:3 device.
Can anyone comment on how hackable I should expect this thing to be? I got a taste of a relatively dead development scene with these two Tabs; a far cry from my Nexus 4 which has tons of potential. I know that the Nexus 9 will probably be good on this front, but I've never bought a Sony tablet before.
I'm going to guess the nexus devices will always have the most active development because of how easy it is to unlock and go crazy. It's a little funny how few roms there are for my tab pro 8.4 considering how nice the hardware is.
I'm not seasoned enough to comment on the possibility of roms for these sony tabs. Evidently , nice hardware may not be a motivating factor. One plus, though is that it won't have knox. ?
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Look for it to be $399 in the US for the 16gb WiFi version. I have money already set aside for one. Been wanting a Sony 8" tablet for a while.
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That's not bad...not wonderful but not bad. Trying to figure out if waterproof is worth that much, or if I should go with a SHIELD Tablet.
So just heard it maybe white only 32gb for the US WiFi and lte version. Not sure why only white 32 but that's the latest info I am getting.
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I have pre-ordered my international version og S7.. And I am getting Gear VR included for free..
Can't wait to try both out.. ?
My phone company ships it out on the 8th marts.. Weeeee...
Yeah I'm looking forward to trying out the vr. Never even gave it a thought before but it may come in handy or may not. Still free so can't complain. Always had free stuff with my Sony handsets which is always nice
So I bought my Tab S2 about two weeks ago (and am going to return it).
Rumors are saying the Tab S3, the true update to the S2 (not the 2016 S2 I bought) will be announced on September 1 along with the Gear S3 watch. This is shortly after the Note 7 is announced.
Let's post here as details become available. Everything for now is just rumors.
The rumor I'm hoping comes true is that is has the processor from the S7. That is a beast and huge upgrade over the S2's dated note 4 processor.
I hope its true, since i have 30 day to return my 2016 S2, i might consider going for the new model due to the new cpu.
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I hope its true, since i have 30 day to return my 2016 S2, i might consider going for the new model due to the new cpu.
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New ones always launch about $150 more than their predecessors.
The way I think of it, the Tab S is the Galaxy S5, the Tab S2 is the Galaxy S6, and the Tab S3 will be the Galaxy S7.
Usually leaks begin months before an official announcement. The Tab S2 was announced in Jul 15 but the form factor and dimensions were leaked way back in Feb. I think it this were true we would have more details by now.
In any case, I doubt Samsung is going to go with such a high-end SOC for a tablet, but hopefully I will be wrong.
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New ones always launch about $150 more than their predecessors.
The way I think of it, the Tab S is the Galaxy S5, the Tab S2 is the Galaxy S6, and the Tab S3 will be the Galaxy S7.
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I bought the 2016 S2 as well 3 weeks ago...but got an open box for $225....so I cant complain... I went through every Note in the series tablet and phone... and I love this thing I do miss the S Pen. Samsung is throwing out a lot of buggy stuff in the last two years though.. thank God for root because because I fixed everything that way.. I definitely want to the Note 7!
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For the price (I paid $299 for the 8.0 WiFi version of the 2016 S2), I wasn't going to wait. I'm absolutely pleased with the 2016 S2, I can finally "stick" with an Android Tablet (tried so many, always went back to iPad Mini). I doubt there will be much "lift" from a refreshed Tab S3 -- the usual faster processor, maybe better camera, but in day to day, it's probably marginal benefit. The one thing you will most certainly get is a faster update to Nougat.
I believe it's highly unlikely there will be a S3 this year with a recently released refresh. All of the rumor sites list the specs of the refresh and the model number I've seen references the 9.7 LTE refresh (sm t819).
Additionally the release cycle for the Galaxy Tab S series seems to consistently launch in the summer, with the refresh released this summer I out the chances of seeing a Tab S3 between zero and nil.
I paid $340 at Costco for the T813 (9.7") and it came with the Samsung book cover ($70 on Sammys website), so it was definitely a good deal. This recent price drop makes me think they are clearing out the last model in anticipation of the new one. Costco is where that 90 day return comes from, so I'll be unrooting and going back to stock before returning if the s3 is announced.
Bringing it out early September seems to make sense to be with the recent releases if you throw in the 2016 refresh, which held them over a little longer.
I don't see the S2 as being in line with the S6, its really just a big Note 4 (sans S-pen). So maybe we get a Note 5 for the S3. That's a decent upgrade on the processor and probably worth it to me.
I guess there is always something better around the corner. I just hate to be the sucker that helped the clear out last years model right before something better comes out, and makes the S2 drop even further in price. It's like buying a Note 5 right now. It'll be outdated and cheaper here soon....
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I just hate to be the sucker that helped the clear out last years model right before something better comes out, and makes the S2 drop even further in price. It's like buying a Note 5 right now. It'll be outdated and cheaper here soon....
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The model T813 was released in April (3 months ago). That's hardly being the sucker that bought last years model right before the new model came out. Now if you bought a T810 I could go with that, but you bought a brand new model. Same case and aesthetics, new processor/GPU, higher performance in benchmarks, and is arguably already the best Android tablet. I understand wanting the latest and greatest, which is why I bought the T713. That said there's nothing about an FCC filing yet, the sites that mention the FCC filing are all mistakenly identifying the T819 as a Tab S3 and not a refreshed Tab S2 LTE, no announcement from Samsung. Once there is an announcement from Samsung the wait timer starts, which typically is a 3 month wait (June/July announcement typically results in a September release).
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I don't see the S2 as being in line with the S6, its really just a big Note 4 (sans S-pen).
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I do, in terms of release cycle.
S5 (Tab S1) is great but has some things wrong with it.
S6 (Tab S2) removes some features that were loved about the S5 but still overall a better device.
S7 (Tab S3...?) adds back everything that people hated being removed from the S6 (in the Tab case, maybe the S3 will have a 16:10 screen...? who knows)
Give us a new Note 8.
better accu? when I wach youtube with my 8.0 tab the accu I can't enjoy all the day (or even 8 hours) of my nice tab
Some differences in the new 2016 refresh:
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/04/12/samsung-just-released-an-updated-galaxy-tab-s2-with-improved-performance/
Some differences in the SD 652 vs SD 820:
http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-652-vs-802-whats-difference-686684/
I believe they moved to this CPU because it's cheaper to make. It's on the older 28nm process, which they probably have excess capacity on. It gives them more profit and ability to close out old stock without losing as much or at least cutting into profit less. To me the biggest difference is that the GPU is less capable. I would wait unless you're trying to get a good tablet and can't afford to drop $500+. Then it's still a great tablet if you're getting it for under $350 IMHO.
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Some differences in the new 2016 refresh:
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/04/12...ated-galaxy-tab-s2-with-improved-performance/
Some differences in the SD 652 vs SD 820:
http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-652-vs-802-whats-difference-686684/
I believe they moved to this CPU because it's cheaper to make. It's on the older 28nm process, which they probably have excess capacity on. It gives them more profit and ability to close out old stock without losing as much or at least cutting into profit less. To me the biggest difference is that the GPU is less capable. I would wait unless you're trying to get a good tablet and can't afford to drop $500+. Then it's still a great tablet if you're getting it for under $350 IMHO.
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As I stated earlier in this thread, the new refresh model gpu is garbage comparing to last years's models. I am not a gamer and the light games I do play stutter and drop frames while last year's model played all these games at full frame rate without frame drops or stuttering.
So I agree with the above that Samsung probably used this soc in the 2016 models to save on costs.
Hopefully there will be an tab s3 this year.
Maybe the 713/813 and 719/819 are the new Tab S3. I just noticed in Samsung's list of Knox-supported devices the T813 is listed under Samsung Galaxy Tab S3!!!
It is a PDF file I downloaded from Samsung, I can't remember the link.
Edit: here it is! https://www.samsungknox.com/knoxportal/files/GalaxyDevicesSupportingKNOX.pdf
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Maybe the 713/813 and 719/819 are the new Tab S3. I just noticed in Samsung's list of Knox-supported devices the T813 is listed under Samsung Galaxy Tab S3!!!
It is a PDF file I downloaded from Samsung, I can't remember the link.
Edit: here it is! https://www.samsungknox.com/knoxportal/files/GalaxyDevicesSupportingKNOX.pdf
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I have the SM-T719 and the box says Tab S2 (it is the Qcom processor model w 6.0.1)
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I have the SM-T719 and the box says Tab S2 (it is the Qcom processor model w 6.0.1)
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The point is Samsung slipped up and called it the Tab S3 internally. Regardless what it says on our boxes these models may be the ones they're planning on shipping in new boxes and calling them Tab S3.
I don't see a reason to release a S3 a couple months after a refresh. Just doesn't make sense at all. The S2 2016 is $350 for 8", that's a far cry from trying to clean out inventory price, and once again, would be pointless to do so soon...
Yes, I got my 713 for $175 (after CB), due to the price mistake, but I also waited 5 weeks to receive it, with clear warning that replacements within return window isn't happening. Only a 15% restocking fee if you return it. I love this tablet though! I've had a N7 2013 that is on its death bed. Going from a 1800 sunspider score to 580 is pretty darn noticeable!
Also, why would anyone return their 713 and 813, especially if you got a deal for the S2... THE opportunity cost is negligible. Spending a $150 more to get 15% speed bump would be a dimwitted move. Especially if you're mostly doing light gaming, reading, and email. That's why tablet sales are so bad, you don't need to update nearly as often as your smartphone, because you're doing significantly less with it! Honestly, even that is pointless, my N6 keeps up with everything I throw at it...
My N7 I wholeheartedly believe would still been fast enough for everyday use if it wasn't for the age and thousands of hours chugged on that CPU and RAM. This S2 destroys that tablet in specs, that's why it would be so unadvisable to forfeit all that money for barely an upgrade!
Just my logical 2 cents...
Agreed. These new models are a rockin' deal. The 8 incher wifi was 299 and I paid 399 for the 9.7. Totally ok with the price and value.
Another thing that makes me think there won't be a Tab S3 so soon (apart from the obvious lack of any evidence so far) is that it would make sense for Samsung to release their next flagship tablet on Android Nougat from day one and that's not going to be possible for a long while.
Before I fork out £80 for it. I have the galaxy S7 Has anyone got any examples of stuff I could actually do with it or is it all just pretty simple apps?
I'd love to get immersed in another world!
Edit- Scratch that, it's only Argos that's selling it for that price. Amazon has it for £50! Or is the Argos version the latest, or something?
Argos- http://tinyurl.com/zzyoqe6
Amazon- http://tinyurl.com/hokghjq
I wouldnt spend money on gear VR.. not worth it... i have it and it was meh... the graphics arent great.. wait for the S8 with 4k screens, then it would be way better... plus the library isnt huge...
Looks like it could be upgrade time, (if the price is right of course.)
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/03/samsung-galaxy-tab-s4-passes-wifi-alliance-certification/
Who's tempted? :angel:
No mention of 8" version though :crying:
Only if my S2 dies. Right now it is running fine and meeting all of my needs. It's only 16 months old. Besides, given past experience the the introductory price will be too high.
I'm curious about new products because the current sale on S2 and S3 tablets seems to be a clearance.
I bought two more Tab S2s (T813s) just last month. Its more important to me to have the ability to run Lineage than the latest hardware. So no a Tab S4 really doesn't interest me unless I see some development for it. Based on how the other new Samsung phones / devices have been, I'm not holding my breath.
Bought my S2 in December 2015.
Still running perfectly fine.
Especially I like the very low weight which adds to the universal usability of this device.
Unfortunately the S4 will be significantly heavier, and NO other tablet in the 10" range with <400g weight is in sight... so I hope my S2 will work for another 2 years...
For me, most of my current T715 is fine, and has been for the last 2 years. On an 8" S4, (not that one exists,) I'd like the same form factor and weight, a new battery, SD835, always on FP sensor and 4GB ram.
Things like a glass back, facial recognition, increased weight, don't interest me.
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Looks like it could be upgrade time, (if the price is right of course.)
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/03/samsung-galaxy-tab-s4-passes-wifi-alliance-certification/
Who's tempted? :angel:
No mention of 8" version though :crying:
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its a no from me until they start putting the latest chipset on their tablet. I'm not paying premium price tag for last year chipset.
Was tempted but since no 8 so disregarded it. Tried to find availability of the Huawei 8.4 & found none. So got the S2; it is now 2 weeks. I use it for reading books & got it because Amazon had it for sale at $289 which pushed me over. My ASUS Zenpad S3 10 is very nice &, for me, much better than the iPad 9.7; but both are too "heavy" & awkward.
Also decided to resurrect my Tab Pro with the RRMix & have sent for a battery replacement since it was going down 30% in 24 hrs in sleep mode; think it is worst now & will see if the it remains the same when the battery arrives in 5 days.
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I bought two more Tab S2s (T813s) just last month. Its more important to me to have the ability to run Lineage than the latest hardware. So no a Tab S4 really doesn't interest me unless I see some development for it. Based on how the other new Samsung phones / devices have been, I'm not holding my breath.
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Man, how much did you pay for them? I want to pull the trigger on one so bad, but I just can't at the current prices, especially when they'll tank in a few months with the release of the S4...
had my tab for about 1.5 years,happy with it,i only stream football and read books,does the job
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Man, how much did you pay for them? I want to pull the trigger on one so bad, but I just can't at the current prices, especially when they'll tank in a few months with the release of the S4...
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I just checked both the ones I just bought were $349, both T813, the 9.7" ones. These last two were for my wife and son. I believe mine I actually picked up for $299, but that was back when the S3 had come out IIRC.
I bought one on Amazon for my son. Then when I decided I wanted a second one for my wife, they had already sold out, so I picked up a second one on eBay (it was new sealed).
My T813 is still running great, so I'm not really in the market for a tablet right now. Maybe, if the S3 drops in price sufficiently, I might upgrade to it to get the pen, but otherwise, I'm good.
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I just checked both the ones I just bought were $349, both T813, the 9.7" ones. These last two were for my wife and son. I believe mine I actually picked up for $299, but that was back when the S3 had come out IIRC.
I bought one on Amazon for my son. Then when I decided I wanted a second one for my wife, they had already sold out, so I picked up a second one on eBay (it was new sealed).
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In my country, Indonesia, secondhand Tab S2 9.7 will set you back Rp1.450.000,00 (which translates to around $105). But it has a caveat, the screen has shadow problem (but still, i can bear it for that kind of price!)
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In my country, Indonesia, secondhand Tab S2 9.7 will set you back Rp1.450.000,00 (which translates to around $105). But it has a caveat, the screen has shadow problem (but still, i can bear it for that kind of price!)
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Had I found any used ones for that price I might had considered it. In my area most people ask $300 for a used one. (Seriously, two in my area right now for sale, both $300) For the price it would be dumb not to buy a brand new one for only $50 more. These replaced our Nexus 7 (2013 models) which I did pick up 2 of the 3 used reasonably locally.
My play might be to wait for the eventual S3 price drop and pick one up to replace my 0G Tab S.
I'm just praying they will make a smaller model of S4. 16/9 would be a gift as well.
They need to give us an option priced equivalent to the 'normal' ipad and stop pretending that it can go head-to-head with the Pro line. Pen is nice and all but there's just not enough software to justify it.
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They need to give us an option priced equivalent to the 'normal' ipad and stop pretending that it can go head-to-head with the Pro line. Pen is nice and all but there's just not enough software to justify it.
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Yes, but this is Samsung, and they think they are the Apple of the Android world. Arguably, they shouldn't be charging iPhone money for the Galaxy S series either. My wife's 6S plus performs better than my S7 Edge in almost every way, to the point I have even considered getting her a new phone and taking her old one. The keyboard/app lag on the Galaxy devices is absurd for a device costing that much. Just texting from my device is an exercise in frustration compared to her phone or even my old HTC One M8.
The irony is that they could dramatically improve the performance of their devices by doing LESS. Drop TouchWiz, lightly skin AOSP, and maybe do a custom launcher. It's infuriating.
I like my 8" Tab S2 and my S7 Edge phone but my 10.5" iPad Pro blows away any Android device I've ever had (and I've had a lot since Android's intro). Outstanding performance and stability and a whole lot of very polished apps. iOS was difficult to adjust to but I've found ways to do anything I wanted to get done with a tablet. It would take something very special to get me to invest in a new Android tablet again (but I'll stick to Android phones and will continue to use the S2 Tab as a mini tablet).
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I like my 8" Tab S2 and my S7 Edge phone but my 10.5" iPad Pro blows away any Android device I've ever had (and I've had a lot since Android's intro). Outstanding performance and stability and a whole lot of very polished apps. iOS was difficult to adjust to but I've found ways to do anything I wanted to get done with a tablet. It would take something very special to get me to invest in a new Android tablet again (but I'll stick to Android phones and will continue to use the S2 Tab as a mini tablet).
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Agreed on iOS being slicker than Android. Unfortunately, that means buying into the Apple ecosystem, because anything "not Apple" is either not supported, or not supported well. In my case, I use Chromecast devices a lot, especially the Chromecast Audio. While there are a few apps for casting to them on iOS, none of them are great (save for VLC, which isn't iOS specific). The alternative would be to replace all those devices with AppleTVs, which would be prohibitively expensive at the moment.
Of course, I'm a power user, so iOS is a poor fit for me anyway. I like that I can setup impromptu servers to move files back and forth between my Android devices, that I can run a different launcher (almost invariably Nova launcher), etc. In fact, the biggest thing keeping me on Android is the fact that I can move files around trivially between devices or servers without having to deal with iTunes or some other app. Just trying to organize music, video, and e-books on my iPad was enough to make me switch to the Tab S2 in the first place.
Every time I get fed up with Android's quirks (or Samsung's quirks), or I pick up one of my family's iPads, I inevitably run into one of the limitations that made me go with Android in the first place.