Google's new Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones are now finally official. Differentiated primarily by the size and resolution of their screens — 5-inch 1080p display on the Pixel and 5.5-inch Quad HD panel on the XL —Google’s Pixel smartphones are the first devices in the U.S. to be powered by Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 821 processor, which reportedly sees a 10 percent performance increase over the Snapdragon 820. Both have 4GB of RAM, Gorilla Glass 4, fingerprint sensors, USB Type-C ports, and storage options between 32GB and 128GB. The only other difference here is the battery — the larger phone has a 3,450mAh battery, and the regular Pixel has one with a 2,770mAh capacity.
People who are disappointed from Google Pixel phone please don't post here as this i have started this thread for good and positive comments.:laugh::silly:
Root will not be a problem with unlocked bootloader, only locked bootloaders will be forever ****ed...and i dont see google locking it down. Yes a new method will have to be worked out but it will be worked out. There is a great article on android central http://m.androidcentral.com/android-and-chill-nougat-and-root-question
I'm so glad they are "cloning" the iPhone design. I've always loved the iPhone hardware, but their OS and software is just locked-down garbage. And the Pixel hardware looks better than any iPhone. Can't wait to see some specs from Google!
i m sure there will be root our talented xda devs must be working hard on it and they will gain root access.
Design: pretty disappointed due to its close resemblance with iphone , nexus 6p looks way cooler and original in terms of design.
Specs: an obvious upgrade from previous years 810 but like nexus 6p this will soon be outdated with the emergence of new flagships of early 2017.
camera: don't expect anything major in this department.
Software experience: would be similar to previous nexus phones if anything comes as exclusive, it'll be ported to other devices in no time.
AlwaysLucky said:
I'm so glad they are "cloning" the iPhone design. I've always loved the iPhone hardware, but their OS and software is just locked-down garbage. And the Pixel hardware looks better than any iPhone. Can't wait to see some specs from Google!
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If only Qualcomm could match the A10 specs.
Does the 821 fix the throttling issues of the 810 on the 6P. Throttling is the only reason I'm looking to upgrade at all. Other than that I love my 6P.
seriously considering it since my nexus 6 screen is shattered. Rumors are discouraging me so i might opt for a one plus 3 or a 6p for now if It seriously disappoints after release. But I hope it does pan out to be an amazing phone. Wish the xl was a little bigger tho.
I am using note 5 and screen size is 5.7 and i hope so the screen size is 5.7 which is unlikely [emoji2] [emoji2]
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what do you guys thing about the new rumor?
http://www.gsmarena.com/alleged_official_render_of_the_google_pixel_with_no_home_sensor_button-news-20716.php
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what do you guys thing about the new rumor?
http://www.gsmarena.com/alleged_official_render_of_the_google_pixel_with_no_home_sensor_button-news-20716.php
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I don't recall anyone thinking this phone was going to have a home button. The phone it was based on (some HTC phone) had a home button on the bottom, but Google isn't going to do that - instead putting it on the back. Now there's just a huge bezel, no bottom speakers or anything.
i still feel this is not the last leak there will be some more changes.
I love the new leaks. I'll buy either way. If it's announced on the 4th when will pre-order be?
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pixel xl photo leaked today. yesterday was the regular pixel.
the bezel ratio looks more respectable than the regular pixel. for me personally, i don't need a home button or any unnecessary designs going on on the bottom of the phone. for me it's distracting/tacky. sure there could have been a speaker on the bottom front, but all is forgiven if they bring the 10's speaker setup. to each their own.
edit: and of course the photo is courtesy of evleaks on twitter.
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How good is the 10's speaker setup?
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just a bit below the 6p in volume, but it was very noticeably more crisp imo. there's a very easy vid to find on youtube that also mentioned this. this is why i'm hopeful with the pixel xl, HTC making it, and the "not that big" bezel. i just can't picture google not opting for a similar setup if they didn't go for front-facing.
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Cool deal. My 6P speakers are definitely loud...but I had a much better "sound" with a Nexus 5 Surround Sound mod I did with Viper4Android. Got tired with root and all that so if I could get a similar sound out the box that'd be good enough to me.
Don't care for the specs, so probably blow this Pixel off. Happy with 6P but watching the Huawei Mate 9 release...
AndrasLOHF said:
Does the 821 fix the throttling issues of the 810 on the 6P. Throttling is the only reason I'm looking to upgrade at all. Other than that I love my 6P.
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As of right now we have no idea. But given Google's previous implementation of Qualcomm chips in their devices and how they deal with heat dispersion and throttling I assume that this will have no issue if at all.
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i still feel this is not the last leak there will be some more changes.
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There won't be any more "changes" and those are official Google pictures given to retailers, as well as specs. They just leaked from retailers a couple of days early.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68968705&postcount=77
Honestly. If google goes with this rumored high price. I do expect something up their sleeve. Greatly improved camera. Extra software surprise, something. Maybe the xl starts out at the $650 mark. I have faith in google not letting everyone Down. They always make it worth it to me.
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AndrasLOHF said:
Does the 821 fix the throttling issues of the 810 on the 6P. Throttling is the only reason I'm looking to upgrade at all. Other than that I love my 6P.
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You need to find the right kernel to handle that.
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Just received my Nexus 6P today and took some pictures comparing to the Shamu and without a doubt the Shamu had better lighting and overall detail. In addition, the speaker was louder and demonstrated more of a stereo presence than the 6P. I felt that the performance of accessing and opening apps was just as good if not better with the Shamu and that lead me to run the Antutu benchmark and the results were telling.
In the Antutu, both were run with no applications loaded and the difference was more than 13K in favor of the Shamu ?? 52+ vs 39
As if that was not enough I ran Geekbench 3 and the results were even more dramatic. 1064 single core 3273 multi / 726 single 2882 multi
What this experience so far has led me to believe is that either I have a very good Shamu OR the Nexus 6P is defective
Snapdragon 810 throttling like always.
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My 6p scores alot higher then your 39 you r claiming. My 6p is better then my N6 hands down.
On the plus side you can probably sell the 6p pretty easily. I VERY much doubt it is defective. I think the 810 is a failed architecture, they tried to go too far and there is no (economical) solution to its problems. As for the other stuff, Huawei's first effort probably just wasn't ever going to compete with a Motorola phone designed when they were still part of Google.
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On the plus side you can probably sell the 6p pretty easily. I VERY much doubt it is defective. I think the 810 is a failed architecture, they tried to go too far and there is no (economical) solution to its problems. As for the other stuff, Huawei's first effort probably just wasn't ever going to compete with a Motorola phone designed when they were still part of Google.
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Not so much a failed architecture, as failed application. The 810 has 4 Cortex A57's, which are *very* badly suited to smartphone application. This chip is a STOPGAP solution to get something that *looks* high end 64 bit out the door QUICKLY in order to hold up against the competition that has pointlessly put out their own 64bit chip.
And realistically, the 810 doesn't perform *poorly*, it just isn't as good as the 805 for this application, and the 805 is *excellent*.
In an application that has the ability to dissipate heat properly, the 810 is a very nice chip. Just imagine how it would perform with a good heatsink and FAN.
The build is much better then nexus 6. And with my uses so far the 6p out shines my nexus 6. So glad I got the 6p and can sell my Nexus 6. Anyone who says the nexus 6 is better then the 6p imo.
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The build is much better then nexus 6. And with my uses so far the 6p out shines my nexus 6. So glad I got the 6p and can sell my Nexus 6. Anyone who says the nexus 6 is better then the 6p imo.
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Well I guess it does boil down to how you are using it and thus far with my web browsing, image searching the 6P is faster but there is too large of a discrepancy with the benchmarks on a stock unrooted phone so I guess I will RMA this one.
FWIW: three comments from Android Central review convinced me to cancel my 6P order:
-"I want to say the Nexus 6P runs Marshmallow better than any other phone, because the Nexus 6P is shiny and new. In reality, it runs things the same as a Nexus 6 or a Nexus 5X does."
- "The 6P has a very good radio, hanging on to signal almost as good as the Motorola Nexus 6"
- "If you already bought a Nexus 6 and don't hate it, keep it until next year."
The problem which I have with the nexus 6P and in general with both nexus devices this year, samsung devices and Sony devices is that they tried to ripoff iphone design so badly.
Huge top and down bezels, symetric design on the front and lack of exchangeable battery over any practical advantage. Also, alu bodies.
This people dont probably understand that if A user wants a phone that looks like an Iphone, A user will get an Iphone, especially if they can shed out 600+ dolalrs, euros for that thing.
Its dissapointing to see that only LG has kept with the removable battery option. The only reason I currently own a Nexus 6 is because it was a deal that offered it much cheaper than a LG G4 and android updates from Google.
I guess flip phones and old devices for me from now on. Its very sad that iphones still set the standard of "flagships" in 2015.
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Picture that support my claim:
Back side of Nexus 6p and Iphone 6s
http://images.bidnessetc.com/img/96...b6cb77-apple-iphone-6s-vs-huawei-nexus-6p.jpg
Front side of Nexus 6p and Iphone 6S
http://www.valuewalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Nexus-6P-Vs-Nexus-5X-Vs-iPhone-6s-Plus.jpg
HTC one A9
http://cdn2.alphr.com/sites/alphr/f...e/public/2015/09/htc_one_a9.jpg?itok=Q0jDYHGz
The iphones at least have front fingerprint sensors. THe nexus 6p has no excuse for giant front bezels.
Actually, today/tomorrow I will be testing the radio on it to see if it is better than the Shamu and if it is then I will most likely be keeping it although I really like the speakers on the Nexus 6 and how the camera works with Manual camera app.
I guess if I didnt have a nexus 6 now, and wanted one, I would probably opt for a 6p, since its "newer".
But, being an owner of a nexus 6, I don't see any logical reason to "upgrade" to the 6p; wanting the "newer" phone is the only reason i would think about doing it, and that's emotional, not logical..
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I guess if I didnt have a nexus 6 now, and wanted one, I would probably opt for a 6p, since its "newer".
But, being an owner of a nexus 6, I don't see any logical reason to "upgrade" to the 6p; wanting the "newer" phone is the only reason i would think about doing it, and that's emotional, not logical..
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Yeah, this has been my thinking as well.
My stock 6p on the latest google build scores 57,555 in Antutu. My Nexus6 is on stock rom but unencrypted and custom kernel scores 52-55k.
Geekbench3 my 6p did 1315 single core and 4168 multi-core. I don't have my N6 near me today, but I know it was lower than that.
Androbench my 6p did 231MB/s seq read, 115MB/s seq write, 19.52MB/s random read, and 11.16MB/s random write. My unencrypted Nexus 6 did 222MB/s seq read, 67MB/s seq write, 17MB/s random read, and 16MB/s random write....and that was much much much faster than the encrypted Nexus6 scores were in the past.
So for me at least, the 6p is faster in essentially every benchmark.
I listen to Google Music a lot and I really really like the speakers on Shamu. Question. did your 6P come with the latest build ? I am now a bit hard of hearing and use the speakerphone and am wondering if the lesser speaker on the 6P would be too hard for me as there are times with the 6 it is soft.??
I just said screw it and processed my return today. I have the Nexus 6 still and I can't find a reason for keeping the 6p.
stevew84 said:
I just said screw it and processed my return today. I have the Nexus 6 still and I can't find a reason for keeping the 6p.
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Damn man. Like I said in another thread, I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger on it yet. Returning the case I bought for it today.
Looks like I'm getting either a MotoX Style/Pure, or an LG V10 to play with for a while. Who knows....I may take my N6 over those too. Time to go do some more research.
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Damn man. Like I said in another thread, I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger on it yet. Returning the case I bought for it today.
Looks like I'm getting either a MotoX Style/Pure, or an LG V10 to play with for a while. Who knows....I may take my N6 over those too. Time to go do some more research.
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Have you held a 6P by chance? I have an old HTC one M7 and its exactly the same color aluminum but feels 10 times more sturdy. There is something "hollow" about the 6P, if that makes sense.
Also, that guy who bent the crap out of the 6P did it again, with a brand new, un-altered one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3cWVdLqXCg
I'm not too worried about bending mine, but it confirmed my suspicion of the pieces not being properly mated together internally. There was some real crappy building decisions somewhere along the way, could only blame Huawei for that.
I'm probably getting a Note 5, if I don't like that I'll just wait until the next incarnation of the flagships.
stevew84 said:
Have you held a 6P by chance? I have an old HTC one M7 and its exactly the same color aluminum but feels 10 times more sturdy. There is something "hollow" about the 6P, if that makes sense.
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That totally makes sense. I had an m7 too. The build quality of that device was superior in every way.
jeebuspwnz said:
That totally makes sense. I had an m7 too. The build quality of that device was superior in every way.
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All M incarnations have been solid and heavy like a slab of aluminum. The 6P has a nice exterior frame, a free floating mid frame (which causes the ridiculous bending), and a screen which isn't really attached to the outer frame, at least doesn't appear to be during these bend tests. So, the gap between the back cover (where nexus is stamped) and the mid frame causes the device to feel hollow and weak.
I'll gladly take a glass back and aluminum outer frame securely...secured to each other.
How does the Nexus 6P feel in the hand versus the Nexus 6? The 6 is noticeably wider no?
http://bgr.com/2016/07/06/google-nexus-2016-pictures/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...us-phones-sailfish-and-marlin-will-look-like/
A few articles have been written about the rumored new Nexus phone. If this is how it looks, it looks horrible. The front facing speakers appears to be gone and it looks very iPhone-esq.......similar to HTC's A10.
If it is accurate, it looks pretty bad compared to Motorola's 6.
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If it is accurate, it looks pretty bad compared to Motorola's 6.
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The economic position of HTC will be worse.
mikeprius said:
A few articles have been written about the rumored new Nexus phone. If this is how it looks, it looks horrible. The front facing speakers appears to be gone and it looks very iPhone-esq.......similar to HTC's A10.
If it is accurate, it looks pretty bad compared to Motorola's 6.
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It's all still leaks and rumors at this point but if things play out the way the leaks are leaning, I'll still be hanging on to my Nexus 6. With the larger screen and running Android Nougat at a more than acceptable performance level I just can't find anything that compels me to upgrade.
Even though that's just a rumour and not confirmed, I gotta say HTC really hasn't changed much in a decade. My HTC Sensation looks pretty similar to that, and it's ancient. No, I don't use it anymore, it's a backup phone in case my other device breaks. lol. In other words; not liking it and won't be getting one.
My contract ends around the same time as the new line of Nexus' come around. If HTC fails to wow me, it seems as though I might be going for the galaxy note 7 or s7 edge. Not a big fan of restricted Samsung, otherwise I'd use the OnePlus 3, but alas it doesn't support CDMA
The bigger Nexus 6 variant will probably look slightly different from the smaller though.
I kinda like the new look, but don't like that they're ditching the stereo speakers. I think I'll hold on to the N6 until it dies on me.
Those are just renders. Hopefully they won't ditch the stereo speakers. Either way I'll be sticking to the nexus 6 for a while and wait for reviews instead of purchasing it right away. Judging from the renders, I don't like the look but it might grow on me eventually, kinda like the camera bump on the nexus 6p. I'm actually more excited about custom Roms on Nougat that the new devices. My phone contract finished March next year and even then if the new devices does not seem to fit me I probably would have to wait. The nexus 6 is a fully capable phone for this day and age and will continue to be for a long time thanks to the xda community. The whale will definitely be a legendary phone in my book.
Arju007 said:
Those are just renders. Hopefully they won't ditch the stereo speakers. Either way I'll be sticking to the nexus 6 for a while and wait for reviews instead of purchasing it right away. ....
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That's wise. I would prefer a phone with a new display like
http://www.slashgear.com/jdi-full-active-lcd-panel-has-nearly-no-bezels-10451334/
I've been watching the leaks and rumors and yeah I'm not too excited. I'll probably be sticking with the 6. For me 6" is the perfect size and I love the stereo speakers and wireless charging. And it's plenty fast enough so I don't see any compelling reason to "upgrade" at this point.
I'd be more compelled to pick up a 6P which will have a reduced price when the Nexus 2016 comes out.
Well I suppose once it comes out the 6p will be cheaper so if the HTC isn't great there will be a cheaper option. I'm guessing they will price it around $500 which has been pretty typical for the Nexus pricing.
HTC has been struggling since they had their last real hit the M8
The rumor design though with no front facing speakers looks awful but would be consistent with HTC lol
Will there ever be a 6" Nexus in the future?
i love the nexus 6 except for the weight of it. the shape was great but right now id prefer something flat.
the only reason why im interested in the new nexus is because of daydream. other than that the nexus' killer features are the screen - 6" qhd amoled - pretty much unique, stereo speakers and qi charging.
will the new nexus have any 2 out of the 3 of these? i sure hope so!
This may be something to wait for....
http://www.slashgear.com/jdi-full-active-lcd-panel-has-nearly-no-bezels-10451334/
what is daydream? doesn't the nexus 6 already have that? I've never seen it do anything
Not certain those HTC really appeal to me. Depends on what phones Verizon has in September, or is announced for it.
buschris said:
what is daydream? doesn't the nexus 6 already have that? I've never seen it do anything
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Daydream has two meanings
1 screensaver while charging
2 compatibility with new vr standards
Since our nexus 6 already has #1, I'm guessing he means #2
I don't like these renders either. But I remember the dislike for the 6P when renders and test units started showing up. Most hated the design because of the "LaForge" visor. But once we got the real deal it looked much better than anticipated.
Hopefully that's gonna be the case here.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...he-2016-nexus-sailfish-in-the-metallic-flesh/
Bezels
As these leaks start flowing I'm only getting more and more disappointed in this device. Have really been hoping for 1)A very high end device or 2) An affordable device with flasgship-esue specs. Both of these look like they will not be happening.
- Should be getting the 821 at this point. Yes, it's just an OC'd 820 but it's late in the year. 820 is already months old.
- Waterproofing. This should be standard at this point. Not a huge factor but this is now a premium device, it should have all the features.
- OEM Unlock? With Verizon as a partner as well as the XDA article yesterday on root with multiple partitions, looks like this may not be as easy as before.
- Very bland looking. If I'm going to be paying $700+ for a phone, I want to be proud to show off the design. So far it brings nothing to the table.
In short, this is looking like the exact same specs as the HTC 10/S7 with Pure Google software. The hardware on its own doesn't excite.
Redeeming Areas:
- UFS Storage. Would love the speed and wouldn't mind losing an SD card slot for faster read/write speeds.
- Financing. This would soften the blow of a more expensive phone.
- Quick updates. This is a given and the best part of the phone.
- OEM unlocking. Ensure me that this phone will be the best developer device on the market.
Open to other's thoughts.
not with the rumors so far
1. 5.5 inch screen why go small i love N6 size
2. Bezel is too big looks like apple crap phone
I am agree with All your point, it's true that the Google pixel doesn't have a design to proud off with the price range
I don't feel premium and confident for my daily work especially when I am bored and look to my phone trying to admire the engineer of beauty behind this masterpiece
so far, I don't have good feeling with Google Pixel..
it's like, comparing macbook and chromebook..
Pretty sure it's 821
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The pixel phones are ugly. The huge bezel and nav bar will use up like 2cm of space at the bottom. It's clear that they aren't competing with samsung in the design department. Price to performance is also off. The main reason why most people preferred the s7 or note 7 over the oneplus 3 is that it looks better and has a better screen. The only real difference in specs between the pixel (not xl) and the 1+3 is the screen resolution. When we compare the regular pixel phone with the 1+3, it seems to offer even less for the 650$ price tag.
To summarize, why would I buy a big ugly note 7 (the pixel xl) for the same price as the original note 7? Does it make sense to pay $250 more than the 1+3 just to get a pixel phone with stock android?
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1. 5.5 inch screen why go small i love N6 size
2. Bezel is too big looks like apple crap phone
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Right!
I just don't understand why bezels have gotten larger since the Note 3 from Samsung which had amazingly small top/bottom bezels.
AND... phones seem to be getting heavier instead of lighter.
5.5" vs. 5.7" phones and yet the 5.7" phone is smaller and lighter.
Even the Note 4, Note 5 and Note 7 are all taller & heavier than the Note 3.
Qi wireless charging
I want Qi wireless.
1) it's very convenient
2) I have too many 3-coil tilt chargers just to throw away
3) Google's excuse last year for dropping Qi because they included Type C plug was idiotic. It's not either/or Qi or Type C. You can have BOTH, just like the Samsung Note 7. If I don't want to plug my phone in when I get home, then I don't want to plug my phone in. Again, you can have BOTH Qi and Type C in one device.
My LG Nexus 5 had Qi and my current Moto XT1225 has it.
Yet, Google dropped it and now Lenovo/Motorola also dropped it as a built-in function -- making you buy a silly "mod" in their Moto Z series to get Qi wireless charging. I'm NEVER buying any mods or any phone that requires mods. The LG G5 failed spectacularly and I hope the Moto Z does as well.
I've had my current phone since 2014, and I'll buy next year's Samsung Galaxy Edge 8 or something to get Qi if I have to. Samsung is smart enough to realize people still want Qi wireless charging, even if no other manufacturer seems to have a clue.
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not with the rumors so far
1. 5.5 inch screen why go small i love N6 size
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Because 6" was a huge mistake, if Google was just going to release ONE phone. Even 5.7" is too big for a mainstream phone. That's why Samsung has different sizes for their "flagship" Galaxy 7 (5.1", 5.5") and Note 7 (5.7") series. Samsung realizes just because you want a smaller phone, you still want 1440p AMOLED, and fastest CPU/GPU.
In 2014, Google and Motorola had both 5.2", 1440p, 3GB RAM, Snapdragon 805 gen6 Nexus in testing (benchmarks were leaked) as well as the 5.95" -- and Google went with the WHALE. (Motorola said they cautioned against it, as most people don't want a HUGE phone. Google did it anyway.) Google should have released both sizes, the way Apple released two sizes in 2015. Google could have started the trend!
Instead, Motorola released that 5.2" phone as the "Quark". (Moto XT1225, XT1254, XT1250) 5.2", 1440p AMOLED, Snapdragon 805, 3GB RAM, 64GB internal memory, Qi wireless, Quick Charge 2.0, 3900 mAh battery, 21MP camera. Kevlar back overlaid with ballistic nylon. It'll stop a bullet for you in a bad neighborhood! :good: I own three Moto XT1225 and run them on AT&T. (LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17) It was basically the 5.2" gen6 Nexus phone Google should have released. Has almost all the specs of the Nexus 6 but a bigger battery: 3900 mAh. Because Google always skimps on Nexus phone batteries.
So in 2015, Google admitted they made a mistake with the too-big Moto Nexus 6 by releasing TWO Nexus phone sizes, 5.7" and 5.2" -- but the smaller one should have had the same specs as the larger one except for display size. Google screwed up again by making the smaller Nexus a "mid-tier" phone. No one wants a mid-tier phone. (My 5.2" Moto XT1225 has 1440p, so screw you Google! I got the gen6 Nexus phone you wouldn't release!) So, in 2015 everyone who wanted a top-tier Nexus phone had to get the 5.7" size. But it's too big for most people. (See Samsung above.)
Now in 2016, Google is downsizing to more mainstream 5.5" for their top tier 1440p phone, as well as a 5.0" 1080p phone. In reality, they should have a 5.2" and 5.7" series (both 1440p!). Or 5.4" and 6" (both 1440p!) No one wants just 5.0" anymore. If it's got slim bezels the smaller one could even be 5.4", and then for the larger you could have a 6" "phablet"
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Agreed. bezels are way too big for no reason. If the bezels are that big there should be front facing STEREO speakers attached. See the excellent ZTE Axon 7.
THIS is the phone Google should be making!
ZTE Axon 7
$400 with free shipping in the U.S.
If gold is too flashy for you also comes in a gray/silver look.
5.5", 1440p AMOLED
Fantastic hi-fidelity stereo audio with front facing speakers
20MP rear camera + OIS
8MP selfie camera
Snapdragon 820
4GB RAM
64GB internal memory + microSD slot (128GB cards available)
(In China, there's also a 6GB RAM/128GB internal memory version. )
It is also among the first devices to support "Daydream" -- Google's mobile virtual reality engine.
And yes, I know Google doesn't do microSD cards. I'm just listing the specs of the Axon 7 and wondering why Google can't do SOMETHING as good for the Pixel XL for around the same price? It even uses the SAME 1440p AMOLED display the Pixel XL will have.
$400 for this phone.
Well I purchased the HTC 10 when it was released in April. I knew that the next Nexus (Pixel) was going to be made by HTC. I remember some of the Build quality issues from HTC and the company losing direction. I did not know what to expect. Well the HTC 10 was the best build quality phones that I have ever owned. The HTC 10 I believe is the best phone on the market today. If the pixels are looking almost identical to the 10. I purchased the HTC 10 with the $100 savings if you purchased directly from HTC. $599.00. I sold my HTC on swappa 2 months ago, knowing that the new Nexus (Pixel) would be coming. If it has the sd 821 I will be happy. I am hoping the $649 is for the 32gb Pixel XL ???? The $$$ for the Pixel seems high. Stay tuned. lol
I am thinking really exactly like you.
If it costs 650$ and has only 6 months old technic I wont buy it for this price. This is just overpayed...
ChazzMatt said:
Agreed. bezels are way too big for no reason. If the bezels are that big there should be front facing STEREO speakers attached. See the excellent ZTE Axon 7.
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I've heard mixed things on the Axon 7. Seems like people either love it or hate it. Worst issues I've heard are signal strength and OS issues. Still waiting on this phone to see if things improve because I'll probably get it if CM support gets better.
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Well I purchased the HTC 10 when it was released in April. I knew that the next Nexus (Pixel) was going to be made by HTC. I remember some of the Build quality issues from HTC and the company losing direction. I did not know what to expect. Well the HTC 10 was the best build quality phones that I have ever owned. The HTC 10 I believe is the best phone on the market today. If the pixels are looking almost identical to the 10. I purchased the HTC 10 with the $100 savings if you purchased directly from HTC. $599.00. I sold my HTC on swappa 2 months ago, knowing that the new Nexus (Pixel) would be coming. If it has the sd 821 I will be happy. I am hoping the $649 is for the 32gb Pixel XL ???? The $$$ for the Pixel seems high. Stay tuned. lol
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Yup, I bought my HTC 10 through Verizon for a relative bargain at $550. However, the LCD (Polarization to be exact) display is what's been turning me off to it coupled with constant software bugs. I continually have to reboot my phone when it gets too taxed with Android Auto...
However, I may just bite the bullet and bootloader unlock it and slap CM on it when it gets stable for my "pure Google" experience.
I'm sure these will be good devices but as you guys mentioned....the price just doesn't quantify the "premium" aspects.
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Agreed. bezels are way too big for no reason. If the bezels are that big there should be front facing STEREO speakers attached. See the excellent ZTE Axon 7.
THIS is the phone Google should be making!
ZTE Axon 7
$400 with free shipping in the U.S.
If gold is too flashy for you also comes in a gray/silver look.
5.5", 1440p AMOLED
Fantastic hi-fidelity stereo audio with front facing speakers
20MP rear camera + OIS
8MP selfie camera
Snapdragon 820
4GB RAM
64GB internal memory + microSD slot (128GB cards available)
(In China, there's also a 6GB RAM/128GB internal memory version. )
It is also among the first devices to support "Daydream" -- Google's mobile virtual reality engine.
And yes, I know Google doesn't do microSD cards. I'm just listing the specs of the Axon 7 and wondering why Google can't do SOMETHING as good for the Pixel XL for around the same price? It even uses the SAME 1440p AMOLED display the Pixel XL will have.
$400 for this phone.
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I've heard mixed things on the Axon 7. Seems like people either love it or hate it. Worst issues I've heard are signal strength and OS issues. Still waiting on this phone to see if things improve because I'll probably get it if CM support gets better.
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What people have had mixed reviews about is the SOFTWARE, not the hardware. For instance, the EU version has softer audio output than the crisp, clear U.S. version. Yet, this phone has already won awards for its audio.
Who cares about ZTE's OS when Google has their own?
What I am pointing out is the HARDWARE SPECS and the PRICE. This is the type of hardware and price Google should be releasing with their version of Android. Look at those bezels! THIS is what the Pixel XL should be! :good:
Google could buy this from ZTE for $400 -- slap their own software on -- and sell it for $450! I bet ZTE would even give Google a discount for bulk purchase -- like a million devices.
Yes, I totally agree with this. I mean, why shall I pay that much amount of money for something, whose specifications are nearly the same (or even worse) than a smartphone, which got released earlier this year, (S7 and S7 Edge 3/11/16).
I am really hoping for Qualcomm's S821 and a decent quantity of battery. A bad camera or quiet speakers would be a big no-go from my standpoint.
However, I am just agonising my head for random rumours. The 4th will tell me, if it is really worth buying it.
NUTS
What is with these vendors trying to shut down root all together? There is no logical reason to do so, I can't recall who but one provider claimed that rooted phones could jeopradize their entire network, are you serious?? what non-sense.
I was really under the Impression that Google was somewhat pro root, now this, a phone that sounds like it will be nearly impossible to root, or if root is achieved, a process (number of steps involved) that would send even a veteran rooter into a very nervous state of mind fearing a brick at the end of the root attempt.
There are some amazing developers on this site and in all likelyhood root will probably be achieved, but this whole us verses them were in now between developers and Manufacturer's will most likely never end. And it's all completely pointless as a rooted phone could never harm a vendors system.
Finance doesn't really make up for a big increase in the price. There has to be something hidden we haven't seen yet. google can't stand on stage and say "here is our new flagship phone, with the same price and features as a Samsung S7 but 6 months later, with the biggest bezels you will see this year"
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As these leaks start flowing I'm only getting more and more disappointed in this device. Have really been hoping for 1)A very high end device or 2) An affordable device with flasgship-esue specs. Both of these look like they will not be happening.
- Should be getting the 821 at this point. Yes, it's just an OC'd 820 but it's late in the year. 820 is already months old.
- Waterproofing. This should be standard at this point. Not a huge factor but this is now a premium device, it should have all the features.
- OEM Unlock? With Verizon as a partner as well as the XDA article yesterday on root with multiple partitions, looks like this may not be as easy as before.
- Very bland looking. If I'm going to be paying $700+ for a phone, I want to be proud to show off the design. So far it brings nothing to the table.
In short, this is looking like the exact same specs as the HTC 10/S7 with Pure Google software. The hardware on its own doesn't excite.
Redeeming Areas:
- UFS Storage. Would love the speed and wouldn't mind losing an SD card slot for faster read/write speeds.
- Financing. This would soften the blow of a more expensive phone.
- Quick updates. This is a given and the best part of the phone.
- OEM unlocking. Ensure me that this phone will be the best developer device on the market.
Open to other's thoughts.
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It will suck. Already looks like poop. Going to be WAY too expensive, no stereo speakers, no microSD. What's the point? Axon 7 is superior except for the lack of roms. If that was solved it would be the killer of 2016
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What is with these vendors trying to shut down root all together? There is no logical reason to do so, I can't recall who but one provider claimed that rooted phones could jeopradize their entire network, are you serious?? what non-sense.
I was really under the Impression that Google was somewhat pro root, now this, a phone that sounds like it will be nearly impossible to root, or if root is achieved, a process (number of steps involved) that would send even a veteran rooter into a very nervous state of mind fearing a brick at the end of the root attempt.
There are some amazing developers on this site and in all likelyhood root will probably be achieved, but this whole us verses them were in now between developers and Manufacturer's will most likely never end. And it's all completely pointless as a rooted phone could never harm a vendors system.
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Because you are NOT allowed to do what you want. What is wrong with you?
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I've heard mixed things on the Axon 7. Seems like people either love it or hate it. Worst issues I've heard are signal strength and OS issues. Still waiting on this phone to see if things improve because I'll probably get it if CM support gets better.
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Agreed, hardware is a dream come true. Just wish it had a removeable battery and an IPS display at 1080p. Hopefully CM/Rom support will develop more and the device will become better.
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It will suck. Already looks like poop. Going to be WAY too expensive, no stereo speakers, no microSD. What's the point? Axon 7 is superior except for the lack of roms. If that was solved it would be the killer of 2016
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Because you are NOT allowed to do what you want. What is wrong with you?
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Agreed, hardware is a dream come true. Just wish it had a removeable battery and an IPS display at 1080p. Hopefully CM/Rom support will develop more and the device will become better.
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True, I guess I'm getting selfish for wanting to shell out around $650.00 and have only Google control it, I really do need to have my head examined
What the Hell going to buy the XL. Its only money. Going to have much more dev then ZTE. It should be a goog phone. Have another beer and get ready to place it in your cart and press pay. lol
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Agreed, (ZTE AXON 7) hardware is a dream come true. Just wish it had a removeable battery and an IPS display at 1080p. Hopefully CM/Rom support will develop more and the device will become better.
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No, we have too many 5.5" 1080p slabs. Need more 1440p AMOLED, PLEASE.
I know many people are disappointed with the rumours until now.
But I'm curious how many of you are still buying regardless.
If the price is true, $650 for the smaller and lowest specs, this will be the first Google phone I'll not buy.
I will probably buy the XL. I am going to try out Project Fi, and I am going to assume that the Pixels will support Fi.
There is really no other phone that interests me. Been down the Galaxy road, had a Note, Nokia, Moto, etc. But one phone I have, strangely, never used was HTC. Going to jump in, try Fi, and if it works for my area, I'll dump Big Red and get my family onto Nexus/Pixel phones.
I'm not a spec whore, so based on what I've seen so far, I'm in.
And get rid of this freaking iPhone I have now.
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I've got a Nexus 6 at the moment. I had been waiting to get a Nexus 2016.
Unfortunately I think the price of this is going to rule it out for me.
Buying a Pixel XL no matter what, as long as the 128Gb version is less than $900.
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Buying a Pixel XL no matter what, as long as the 128Gb version is less than $900.
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The phone specs aren't worth $900 or even $800.
the price is damn high , maybe will consider buy a boom 7
They lost me at 5.5" screen and dropping the front facing stereo speakers.
I never let price decide anything for me but the above 2 just killed it completely for me no matter how cheap or expensive the device may or may not be.
Id be happier with another 6P likely lol
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I was almost leaning towards the Pixel XL when the rumor was still ~$600, because I actually would have liked something closer to a phablet. That, and the fact that AT&T is supposedly going to offer it on the Next program, made it attractive. At closer $800-$900, though, they can keep it.
I'm still somewhat interested in the Pixel, as it would make a nice upgrade to my M8, but at the rumored price I'm going to be taking a wait and see attitude. I did pay nearly that for my M8 two years ago, which would mean my phone bill wouldn't move too much. However, it's not the sure thing it would have been at a more reasonable price.
Based on specs so far I like it. But if it's the same price as a note 7 or iPhone 7 then I will probably pass.
If pixel xl 128 gb is for $650 - $750 yes then y not as per the leaks pixel xl will be 5.5 qhd screen snapdragon 821 and 4gb ram with ip53 Yes not bad i think so there should be only 64 and 128gb who buys a 32gb phone these days.
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To clarify, I voted based on reading the thread title, which includes the words "based on leaked specs and price." After looking at the actual poll, it only asks "will you buy the Pixel?" I voted no based on what I thought this was asking, but yes, I am buying a pixel, just not based on the leaked specs and price.
6gigs of RAM would have helped, given the pricing. I'm really hoping their implementation of VR is going to completely nail it and take it to a whole new level. Hoping they give you their Daydream VR headgear as part of buying a PixelXL...can't wait any longer for the 4th!
It needs to be 128 snapdragon 821, better image stabilizer, and on T-Mobile carrier so I can just jump to it. I have jump 1.0
To date the largest top and bottom bezels are on phones that have front facing speakers like the HTC phones and the 6p.....but the pixels phone bezels in the latest leaked images look like the bezels are even larger than those phones and they don't even have front facing speakers. Doesn't make sense. Not to mention...not having ffs is a major loss.
I also dont think the camera will be much better than the 6p...... especially if they don't add OIS. Top tier phones nowadays need to also have optical zoom like the iPhone 7.
Additionally the 4 gigs of ram is an improvement but with the same size battery as the 6p....even though the screen is slightly smaller....it may not have better battery life than the 6p.
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To date the largest top and bottom bezels are on phones that have front facing speakers like the HTC phones and the 6p.....but the pixels phone bezels in the latest leaked images look like the bezels are even larger than those phones and they don't even have front facing speakers. Doesn't make sense. Not to mention...not having ffs is a major loss.
I also dont think the camera will be much better than the 6p...... especially if they don't add OIS. Top tier phones nowadays need to also have optical zoom like the iPhone 7.
Additionally the 4 gigs of ram is an improvement but with the same size battery as the 6p....even though the screen is slightly smaller....it may not have better battery life than the 6p.
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Yeah, the more that leaks, the more it feels like Google is going to try the equivalent of selling a Chevy at Cadillac prices.
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Yeah, the more that leaks, the more it feels like Google is going to try the equivalent of selling a Chevy at Cadillac prices.
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Sure seems like it.
pychobj2001 said:
It needs to be 128 snapdragon 821, better image stabilizer, and on T-Mobile carrier so I can just jump to it. I have jump 1.0
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Yeah how exactly is it that asus stuffs an 821 in the zenfone 3 deluxe which is already out and google who is launching later only runs the 820?
And not that i honestly care about 4 or 6g of ram but for what they are going to expect people to pay it ought to be 6.
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Yes I will purchase. The Pixel XL is going to be a great phone
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Confused between lgv20 and pixel xl just waiting for the 4th October
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Confused between lgv20 and pixel xl just waiting for the 4th October
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V20 has a removable battery and sd card slot plus a bigger screen which is all good.
What is bad is LG is notorious for locking the bootloaders depending on which model you get and development will almost surely be better on the pixel.
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Just saw the specs of P5....Poor resolution upgrade!
I guess it's pointless and waste of money....what are your thoughts?
Since our security updates will end this month, I plan to upgrade for those and take advantage of the strong T-Mobile 5G signal in my area.
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Just saw the specs of P5....Poor resolution upgrade!
I guess it's pointless and waste of money....what are your thoughts?
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My thoughts?
If you only now just saw the specs you haven't been following the news. You likely also do not understand why Google didn't go with the 865/865+ in the two devices.
For me, it boils down to which features I consider more important. Right now I'm leaning towards the P5 simply because of the aluminum body, but the 4A 5G and its headphone jack is compelling. I think in the end, it's going to boil down to "do I want to pay the extra $200 or not?"
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Coming from the 2XL... The 5 is an upgrade. As far as the ppi... https://www.androidauthority.com/chasing-pixels-810926/ this article from AA is very good and I'm sure I won't notice it much. But I am going to wait for reviews and actually see it side by side
In case you missed topjohnwu's tweets:
https://twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1311370798267990016
Ive never been one of the sheeple, the people who buy into aspirational technology (people who aspire to own somehting because its new and everyone else has one), so its not even a decision for me. Im a fucntional user, if a device performs the functions i need it to, im happy. The only reason i ever upgrade devices is when one is dead, or very much close to being....
I do not get the "new device every 6 months" buyers...i just dont, i think thats insanity
Personally i look at the lines of sheeple at Apple Stores on every release and weep for humanity, and the planet which gets raped to bring people ovepriced (thanks to Apple - they are the root of all evil, not least because they overprice their products, thereby forcing everyone in the market to follow suit, because to do anythign less is to be seen as inferior, so blame Apple, i do, asshat comapny) devices they dont really need
Pretty much the forumula is: new phone = new camera that takes pictures of an even more distant galaxy, hmm very useful in every day life
Some people in some countries have way too much spare money if theyre buying new phones all the time
Im sticking with what works for me, not a corporations bottom line, thanks
Also this:
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-4a-5g-pixel-5-great-value-in-us/
I loved the Pixel 5. I think Google made a small decision to stick with full hd resolution simply because you don't notice as such if the panel is good. It's easy on the battery. It will be easy on the chipset and provide consistent performance.
Pixel 5 does not lack anything as such. The only thing i was a bit disappointed was ufs 2.1 storage. Other than that I'm loving the Pixel 5. I'll get it maybe this Christmas or so!
The more I think about it, the more the 4a5g is looking like the better deal. Only differences between it and the five are two less gigabytes of RAM, no 90hz refresh, and a smaller battery, but the battery is still bigger than the 2xl, so battery life should still be an improvement. I've not yet owned a phone that had a 90hz refresh rate, so that's not really a huge deal to me yet.
The big draw toward the 4a5g for me personally is that the screen is bigger, which would make it feel like more of an upgrade compared to the 2XL.
The materials used are also different, but I've never really been a huge fan of glass backs. Plastic was always all right with me, so the 4a5g won't bother me in that regard. It supposedly feels pretty good in the hand even though its materials are "lesser than” the materials used for the 5 back.
Forgot about wireless charging too, but personally I've never owned a phone that had wireless charging, so again, not a big deal for me yet.
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The more I think about it, the more the 4a5g is looking like the better deal. Only differences between it and the five are two less gigabytes of RAM, no 90hz refresh, and a smaller battery, but the battery is still bigger than the 2xl, so battery life should still be an improvement. I've not yet owned a phone that had a 90hz refresh rate, so that's not really a huge deal to me yet.
The big draw toward the 4a5g for me personally is that the screen is bigger, which would make it feel like more of an upgrade compared to the 2XL.
The materials used are also different, but I've never really been a huge fan of glass backs. Plastic was always all right with me, so the 4a5g won't bother me in that regard. It supposedly feels pretty good in the hand even though its materials are "lesser than” the materials used for the 5 back.
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I second your thoughts here. 4a5 is certainly a better handset and not much hard hitting on the pocket too!
So far with lack of reviews and having seen a few of the random videos we can get. The OnePlus 8 Pro is looking better to me. Really need to see some full reviews
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So far with lack of reviews and having seen a few of the random videos we can get. The OnePlus 8 Pro is looking better to me. Really need to see some full reviews
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I kind of agree with you here, except that I am seriously looking at going the OnePlus 8T route.
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So far with lack of reviews and having seen a few of the random videos we can get. The OnePlus 8 Pro is looking better to me. Really need to see some full reviews
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I kind of agree with you here, except that I am seriously looking at going the OnePlus 8T route.
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I am changing my mind to OnePlus 8 Pro too, I can go to swappa.com and get for less price than P5 with taxes. I am seriously considering going back to iPhone. Google has been using the same camera sensor hardware since the Pixel 2 came out. That means if Google ported the sofware algorithms to the Pixel 2 it would take pictures the same if not damn close to being the same.
after being a 4 year pixel 2 xl owner... the pixel 5 feels like a natural successor. Jut my opinion though
i currently use a pixel 3 because i prefer the size but im pretty much done with the pixel series. the cost is far too high and the features are less and less. the 4 had no fingerprint reader..... so i was thinking of getting a Zenfone 7. great size, great amount of ram........ EXPANDABLE STORAGE!!! but after seeing the OnePlus Nord N10, i might change my mind. ill have to see after the first reviews but it has what i want/need in a phone. google is just too obsessed with trying to either win the apple crowd, or become like apple.
maybe if they ever add features like expandable storage ill buy another pixel but the odds of that happening are not good. knowing google, theyll probably give up on the pixel line after the pixel 7 so i plan on holding on to my Panda Pixel indefinitely.
Okay i changed my decision probably.
I don't think i'll be getting Pixel 5 solely because of outdated hardware. Only if they had upgraded the camera sensors i'd have gone for it. The current sensor is at the end of its life.
I can't decide if I want to get a OP8T, OP8 Pro, or Pixel 5.
I prefer the flat screen of the 5 and 8t, the rear fingerprint sensor on the 5, and the telephoto on the 8 pro.
Get rid of P2-XL?
amandeepparmar said:
Just saw the specs of P5....Poor resolution upgrade!
I guess it's pointless and waste of money....what are your thoughts?
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Depends on your battery. After October, no more OTA's from Google.
If your battery is good, between updates from Google Play Store and LineageOS, I think the phone
would be plenty secure. I plan to keep using mine for awhile. running LineageOS
YoshiFan501 said:
I can't decide if I want to get a OP8T, OP8 Pro, or Pixel 5.
I prefer the flat screen of the 5 and 8t, the rear fingerprint sensor on the 5, and the telephoto on the 8 pro.
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lol Flat screen is such a bliss. My next phone will be a flat screen. I am tired of this curved look and miss touches due to the curve
I went from. The p2xl to the 5, it's definitely an upgrade for me. I love how smooth it feels with the extra ram and 90hs screen, the SD765g has no trouble giving me a great experience on the couple games I do play, (pubg and genshin impact) the battery life for me is about double what the 2xl was and I'm happy to know I'll be getting monthly security updates for the next three years. There are still a couple things I don't like. The top behind the screen speaker is just so-so, far inferior to the 2xl's stereo front firing speakers. However I don't watch or listen to much without headphones or a bt speaker anyways and it does fine for calls. they removed a feature I did actually like.. active edge, I miss sweezing to activate assistant rather than saying hey Google or swiping the corner but still not really a deal breaker for me just so thing to get used to.
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