My Nexus 6 vs Nexus 6P - Nexus 6 General

Just received my Nexus 6P today and took some pictures comparing to the Shamu and without a doubt the Shamu had better lighting and overall detail. In addition, the speaker was louder and demonstrated more of a stereo presence than the 6P. I felt that the performance of accessing and opening apps was just as good if not better with the Shamu and that lead me to run the Antutu benchmark and the results were telling.
In the Antutu, both were run with no applications loaded and the difference was more than 13K in favor of the Shamu ?? 52+ vs 39
As if that was not enough I ran Geekbench 3 and the results were even more dramatic. 1064 single core 3273 multi / 726 single 2882 multi
What this experience so far has led me to believe is that either I have a very good Shamu OR the Nexus 6P is defective

Snapdragon 810 throttling like always.
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My 6p scores alot higher then your 39 you r claiming. My 6p is better then my N6 hands down.

On the plus side you can probably sell the 6p pretty easily. I VERY much doubt it is defective. I think the 810 is a failed architecture, they tried to go too far and there is no (economical) solution to its problems. As for the other stuff, Huawei's first effort probably just wasn't ever going to compete with a Motorola phone designed when they were still part of Google.

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On the plus side you can probably sell the 6p pretty easily. I VERY much doubt it is defective. I think the 810 is a failed architecture, they tried to go too far and there is no (economical) solution to its problems. As for the other stuff, Huawei's first effort probably just wasn't ever going to compete with a Motorola phone designed when they were still part of Google.
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Not so much a failed architecture, as failed application. The 810 has 4 Cortex A57's, which are *very* badly suited to smartphone application. This chip is a STOPGAP solution to get something that *looks* high end 64 bit out the door QUICKLY in order to hold up against the competition that has pointlessly put out their own 64bit chip.
And realistically, the 810 doesn't perform *poorly*, it just isn't as good as the 805 for this application, and the 805 is *excellent*.
In an application that has the ability to dissipate heat properly, the 810 is a very nice chip. Just imagine how it would perform with a good heatsink and FAN.

The build is much better then nexus 6. And with my uses so far the 6p out shines my nexus 6. So glad I got the 6p and can sell my Nexus 6. Anyone who says the nexus 6 is better then the 6p imo.

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The build is much better then nexus 6. And with my uses so far the 6p out shines my nexus 6. So glad I got the 6p and can sell my Nexus 6. Anyone who says the nexus 6 is better then the 6p imo.
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Well I guess it does boil down to how you are using it and thus far with my web browsing, image searching the 6P is faster but there is too large of a discrepancy with the benchmarks on a stock unrooted phone so I guess I will RMA this one.

FWIW: three comments from Android Central review convinced me to cancel my 6P order:
-"I want to say the Nexus 6P runs Marshmallow better than any other phone, because the Nexus 6P is shiny and new. In reality, it runs things the same as a Nexus 6 or a Nexus 5X does."
- "The 6P has a very good radio, hanging on to signal almost as good as the Motorola Nexus 6"
- "If you already bought a Nexus 6 and don't hate it, keep it until next year."

The problem which I have with the nexus 6P and in general with both nexus devices this year, samsung devices and Sony devices is that they tried to ripoff iphone design so badly.
Huge top and down bezels, symetric design on the front and lack of exchangeable battery over any practical advantage. Also, alu bodies.
This people dont probably understand that if A user wants a phone that looks like an Iphone, A user will get an Iphone, especially if they can shed out 600+ dolalrs, euros for that thing.
Its dissapointing to see that only LG has kept with the removable battery option. The only reason I currently own a Nexus 6 is because it was a deal that offered it much cheaper than a LG G4 and android updates from Google.
I guess flip phones and old devices for me from now on. Its very sad that iphones still set the standard of "flagships" in 2015.
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Picture that support my claim:
Back side of Nexus 6p and Iphone 6s
http://images.bidnessetc.com/img/96...b6cb77-apple-iphone-6s-vs-huawei-nexus-6p.jpg
Front side of Nexus 6p and Iphone 6S
http://www.valuewalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Nexus-6P-Vs-Nexus-5X-Vs-iPhone-6s-Plus.jpg
HTC one A9
http://cdn2.alphr.com/sites/alphr/f...e/public/2015/09/htc_one_a9.jpg?itok=Q0jDYHGz
The iphones at least have front fingerprint sensors. THe nexus 6p has no excuse for giant front bezels.

Actually, today/tomorrow I will be testing the radio on it to see if it is better than the Shamu and if it is then I will most likely be keeping it although I really like the speakers on the Nexus 6 and how the camera works with Manual camera app.

I guess if I didnt have a nexus 6 now, and wanted one, I would probably opt for a 6p, since its "newer".
But, being an owner of a nexus 6, I don't see any logical reason to "upgrade" to the 6p; wanting the "newer" phone is the only reason i would think about doing it, and that's emotional, not logical..

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I guess if I didnt have a nexus 6 now, and wanted one, I would probably opt for a 6p, since its "newer".
But, being an owner of a nexus 6, I don't see any logical reason to "upgrade" to the 6p; wanting the "newer" phone is the only reason i would think about doing it, and that's emotional, not logical..
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Yeah, this has been my thinking as well.

My stock 6p on the latest google build scores 57,555 in Antutu. My Nexus6 is on stock rom but unencrypted and custom kernel scores 52-55k.
Geekbench3 my 6p did 1315 single core and 4168 multi-core. I don't have my N6 near me today, but I know it was lower than that.
Androbench my 6p did 231MB/s seq read, 115MB/s seq write, 19.52MB/s random read, and 11.16MB/s random write. My unencrypted Nexus 6 did 222MB/s seq read, 67MB/s seq write, 17MB/s random read, and 16MB/s random write....and that was much much much faster than the encrypted Nexus6 scores were in the past.
So for me at least, the 6p is faster in essentially every benchmark.

I listen to Google Music a lot and I really really like the speakers on Shamu. Question. did your 6P come with the latest build ? I am now a bit hard of hearing and use the speakerphone and am wondering if the lesser speaker on the 6P would be too hard for me as there are times with the 6 it is soft.??

I just said screw it and processed my return today. I have the Nexus 6 still and I can't find a reason for keeping the 6p.

stevew84 said:
I just said screw it and processed my return today. I have the Nexus 6 still and I can't find a reason for keeping the 6p.
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Damn man. Like I said in another thread, I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger on it yet. Returning the case I bought for it today.
Looks like I'm getting either a MotoX Style/Pure, or an LG V10 to play with for a while. Who knows....I may take my N6 over those too. Time to go do some more research.

12MaNy said:
Damn man. Like I said in another thread, I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger on it yet. Returning the case I bought for it today.
Looks like I'm getting either a MotoX Style/Pure, or an LG V10 to play with for a while. Who knows....I may take my N6 over those too. Time to go do some more research.
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Have you held a 6P by chance? I have an old HTC one M7 and its exactly the same color aluminum but feels 10 times more sturdy. There is something "hollow" about the 6P, if that makes sense.
Also, that guy who bent the crap out of the 6P did it again, with a brand new, un-altered one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3cWVdLqXCg
I'm not too worried about bending mine, but it confirmed my suspicion of the pieces not being properly mated together internally. There was some real crappy building decisions somewhere along the way, could only blame Huawei for that.
I'm probably getting a Note 5, if I don't like that I'll just wait until the next incarnation of the flagships.

stevew84 said:
Have you held a 6P by chance? I have an old HTC one M7 and its exactly the same color aluminum but feels 10 times more sturdy. There is something "hollow" about the 6P, if that makes sense.
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That totally makes sense. I had an m7 too. The build quality of that device was superior in every way.

jeebuspwnz said:
That totally makes sense. I had an m7 too. The build quality of that device was superior in every way.
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All M incarnations have been solid and heavy like a slab of aluminum. The 6P has a nice exterior frame, a free floating mid frame (which causes the ridiculous bending), and a screen which isn't really attached to the outer frame, at least doesn't appear to be during these bend tests. So, the gap between the back cover (where nexus is stamped) and the mid frame causes the device to feel hollow and weak.
I'll gladly take a glass back and aluminum outer frame securely...secured to each other.

How does the Nexus 6P feel in the hand versus the Nexus 6? The 6 is noticeably wider no?

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Nexus 5x I am positive about this phone.

I just thought to counterthread underwhelmed thread. At the end of the day it all boils down to personal needs and little of common sense because new phone seems to be pretty awesome and I mean that.
It's from google so you will have timely updates and your phone will not go into oblivion with updates. Phone is developer very friendly and popular you can tinker it till you die.
RAM problem?! Maybe for some if you hardcore appsumers that don't bother to disable/switch off them once in the while.
Snapdragon 808 such a flop! It's 2015 ! 810 still does a better job when throttles blah blah blah.... C'mon this phone will fly and it's not like you are going to run touchwiz. I currently use Moto G 3 Gen 2GB version and it flies ! Yes it flipping snappy and responsive and I don't play games either. I got like 5-7 chrome windows opened, few apps in the background , VLC player on hold and that little thing is supper great.
1080 FHD screen. I think its heaven unless you do VR stuff and pixels bother you fair enough but for everything else 1080 is sweet hell of the spot and sharp . Also no extra strain for GPU and battery. Panel should be great just as on Nexus 5 and probably better given it's 2015.
I am all the way about IPS panels for few reasons even best S6 amoled panel on basic mode produces dull yellowish whites (sRGB colour space) I don't like wide gammut like Adobe RGB , apart from work I occasionally do, I have no interest in it and even then it looks so unnatural to me eye. Another thing about amoled is gamma which is higher than 2.2 and leaves dark shadows with indistinguishable gradient. It just turns dark and black.
Camera should be nice so in the low light. I shouldn't worry too much about EIS my guess it will have some sort of digital control and I also heard it can be done on the phone in the post ( correct me if I am wrong) So far still samples look really nice in both light conditions.
I like C type cable because I had Iphone 6 and it was so cool just to stick charging cable into phone without any second thought.
One thing I am pretty sure many of you are not aware is front facing camera on 5x has larger aperture at 2.0f while 6p only 2.4f. I don't personally bother about wireless charging because C connection makes it so easy and hassle free to do charging. 5' screen is fine but a little extra at 5.2' is ideal. It comes as perfect media and pocketable device.
Storage wise yes I would prefer 64 GB but 32 will do. And sure they are suckers like apple when giving you an option of 16GB just to piss you off so you can pay extra 50 to buy 32GB version.
I can only say look what apple does with it's hardware...
Edit: Another reason I don't get 6P is the size. Flipping ell nearly 16cm long. Will you get me a new pair of hands too ?
Fingers crossed this phone will be solid and trouble free. 3 times knock on the wood.​
Totally with you on this one. I'm coming from a Note4 after 2 faulty N6's forced me away from Nexus. From a hardware point of view the 5x will be a downgrade but, in every day use it will actually perform better. It's proven in my old N5 which is used by another family member. Every time I get to play with it I consider asking for it back as its still really smooth and even worked better than the N6 in some respects. The Ram on the 6P will be maxed out pushing pixels and the lager battery will be feeding this process so it's not going to be super amazing. Anyone who has the N6 or a Note 4 can tell you that. Some like bigger and powerful phones for games and media and each to their own on that. I want a phone that lasts a day, takes decent enough pictures, and works well with no issues. I have other dedicated devices for everything else.
Just ordered one. I currently have a S6 edge, but I really miss the nexus experience and the 6P is too big for me. Messing with my old nexus 5 just made me want to use it again, but I wanted the fingerprint scanner, so the 5X it is!
Thank you so much for this post! I am also positive about the Nexus 5X
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This is my thoughts exactly. I think this will be a no frills, smooth phone. Not top specs, but solid enough. If the camera works out well and the battery lasts longer than my Moto X Pure, then I think this will be my next phone. User experience is more important than specs to me.
I also hate AMOLED, not a good experience with the Galaxy Nexus nor the S4 and I've heard bad things about the first two Moto X and Nexus 6 screens...
Yes, I would have preferred 64, but I can learn to be frugal with storage.
Lots of *****ing & moaning about the 5X, but what alot of people don't realize is that the 5X will be alot faster than the G4 & Moto X Pure/Style because it's using a 1080p screen, wouldn't be surprised if it keeps up with the 810 in some test's, 1080p is plenty sharp enough, and being IPS display rather than AMOLED means no burn in problems in the future.
Now onto memory.
2GB on Marshmallow will be more than enough, due to optimization in Android 6.0, I can bet my house & car it run just as smooth as the 6P or other phones with 3GB or 4GB of ram, it is stock Android after all not bloated to high heaven.
Storage.
This i think is the only let down with this phone it should have been 32GB base & 64GB, 16GB these days isn't enough more so without micro SD.
Wireless charging.
Not something i would miss tbh, never used it on the Nexus 5 & don't use it on the Nexus 6, mainly because it was slow to charge & the phone would get hotter ie probably shorting the life of the battery over time.
Camera
It has the same camera as the 6P so no corner cutting in this department, it will have the best camera to date on a Nexus device, not having OIS is abit of a let down tbh & only being F2.0 on the lens, even with the bigger pixels on the sensor it still struggle sometimes in low light, if the lens had been F1.8 then it would have been better while having no OIS.
Also having a better Battery & USB type C are another plus to the 5X.
All in all the 5X will be a superb smartphone, the price in a few months will come down as well as more retailer get the hands on it.
@ixon2001 for storage, I will add on that you can buy one of those sandisk type c flash drives. There's another 32gb of external storage
With regards to the camera, the only questionable thing is will it have any type of stabilization. I know there is no EIS, but it is very odd if it did not have some form of stabilization, even if it isn't of the highest quality
The only thing that worries me in this phone is that 808. I've read that this series of chips has overheating problems, is that true? If so, what's the solution? Either way, I don't see a better phone for me in the market, I seriously hate almost everything that isn't Nexus. Kinda starting to sound like an Apple fanboy but the Nexus version of that, haha.
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The only thing that worries me in this phone is that 808. I've read that this series of chips has overheating problems, is that true? If so, what's the solution? Either way, I don't see a better phone for me in the market, I seriously hate almost everything that isn't Nexus. Kinda starting to sound like an Apple fanboy but the Nexus version of that, haha.
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No the 810 had this overheating problems. Not the 808
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WingnutStrikesBack said:
No the 810 had this overheating problems. Not the 808
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oh cool thanks
Bei60 said:
The only thing that worries me in this phone is that 808. I've read that this series of chips has overheating problems, is that true? If so, what's the solution? Either way, I don't see a better phone for me in the market, I seriously hate almost everything that isn't Nexus. Kinda starting to sound like an Apple fanboy but the Nexus version of that, haha.
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I've got the G4. The 808 is solid and flies. Wait for the 5X with stock 6.0 and 1080p, its gonna kill!
I'm mostly positive about the N5X.
I really wish they'd retained Qi charging. I became a believer in wireless charging when I got my HP Touchpad with Touchstone charger a few years back, and was really happy to see it in the Nexus lineup. Since the last three Android reference phones have had wireless charging, I thought Google had committed to it. I guess it was just a gimmick? Grrrr.....
But yeah - really looking forward to some Marshmallowey goodness on a new Nexus.
I'm in Canada, the only thing I miss is the cost due to our weak dollar. I feel happy LG is making another Nexus phone.
I was originally concerned about the battery size and 2Gb of RAM but I'm confident marshmallow will be more efficient.
Also I would estimate the battery life to be equal to the G4 because it's pushing less pixels and yet has a smaller battery.
It really sucks that we don't get the google play credit though. It says it right on the page when you buy it.
davidnnn said:
I was originally concerned about the battery size and 2Gb of RAM but I'm confident marshmallow will be more efficient.
Also I would estimate the battery life to be equal to the G4 because it's pushing less pixels and yet has a smaller battery.
It really sucks that we don't get the google play credit though. It says it right on the page when you buy it.
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Once the phone ships out, you'll get an email with a code for your Play Store credit
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Once the phone ships out, you'll get an email with a code for your Play Store credit
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That's great to hear!
Been looking at the chamfered polished edge bezel on the 6P, I tell you know that thing gonna scratch so easily even with just putting it in & out of a case.
It looks exactly like the Note 4's polished chamfered edge which had problems with scratching.
Those who gone for the 5X in a years time if they look after their phones, will still look good as new while the 6P will more than likely be scratched & pitted up to high heaven.
i never used wireless charging in my life. never considered it either. i wont miss it.
1 front-facing speaker - while a disappointment in itself, i never used a phone with dual frontfacing speakers. so from that point of view, the 5x is still an upgrade to my nexus 5.
i dont think i ever encountered ram-issues with the nexus 5. obviously 3 gb would have been nice, but i dont think this will affect my experience in any way. (maybe on android n? who knows)
snapdragon 808 - the nexus 5 is the strongest phone i've ever used, and the 808 is an upgrade to the 5s 800.
camera - it can only go up. although the image quality itself was pretty good with the nexus 5. the biggest issue i had was the autofocus in darker conditions. i have the perfect shot lined up, focused, sharp and crisp, i tap the camera button - the phone unfocuses and takes a blurred shot. what the ****.
all in all it might be a rather small upgrade for a big price tag. but this time, i swear by me mum, i'm gonna use that sucker for the next 3-4 years or so. (like i did with my nexus s)
murfi said:
i never used wireless charging in my life. never considered it either. i wont miss it.
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You don’t know what you’re missing—maybe being ignorant is bliss for you.
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You don’t’ know what you’re missing—maybe being ignorant is bliss for you.
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No need for that. I, myself, have not tried wireless charging and was planning to on one of these two devices (til I canceled my order), but with turbo charging I don't think I even want to try it. Plus, can't really use your phone while charging wirelessly. I'm one of those that many times my phone gets very low and I use it while charging. Turbo charging is more beneficial for me; I don't think not using wireless charging makes us ignorant. Have a good one

Worth buying nexus 6p right now? Or wait?

Is it worth to wait or buy the nexus 6p?
When comes the news about the new nexus phone?
It really depends on why you want to upgrade. For me I was coming from an s4 and the hardware and support was becoming out dated. I think the investment in the 6p is worth it compared to other phones with similar specs with a higher price tag.
I've just pick an 6p up come from a oneplus 2 and I'm not that overly impressed to be honest! Fonts way to small and I can't use my tomtom go I bought from the app store
denny1970 said:
I've just pick an 6p up come from a oneplus 2 and I'm not that overly impressed to be honest! Fonts way to small and I can't use my tomtom go I bought from the app store
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Not impressed with the phone because of a ****ty app?
aygul12345 said:
Is it worth to wait or buy the nexus 6p?
When comes the news about the new nexus phone?
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Usually Nexus phones come out Oct/Nov so you still have quite a bit to go. I would say buy it, it's a great phone and one of the best, if not the best, android phones out right now.
FYI: Nexus phones are typically announced in October and released sometime in late November. Buying the 6P now will still give you a solid 9 months of use before you could even get your hands on the 2016 Nexus phones anyway.
I have a 5X and I'm actually considering a 6P at the moment as well. Over the past 3 months of use I've found that I am always underwhelmed by the speaker output. I have 1-3 conference calls per day and constantly find that the speaker audio quality just plain sucks. The speaker output on my iPhone 6s (work paid for it) puts the 5X's speaker to shame. Not to mention the vastly superior build quality of the iPhone over the 5X. Unfortunately, I can't stand IOS so I always end up going back to the 5X. From everything I've read/seen the 6P speakers should be as good or better than the iPhone and the build quality is equally as good as that of the iPhone.
The biggest thing I keep struggling with is the size. I hated the Nexus 6 because it was just too big and I never got used to it. I've read posts and watched video reviews that seem to show the new design of the 6P really makes it feel much smaller than the previous Nexus 6. I wish a local BetBuy had one for me to go play with but they don't have any display models.
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FYI: Nexus phones are typically announced in October and released sometime in late November. Buying the 6P now will still give you a solid 9 months of use before you could even get your hands on the 2016 Nexus phones anyway.
I have a 5X and I'm actually considering a 6P at the moment as well. Over the past 3 months of use I've found that I am always underwhelmed by the speaker output. I have 1-3 conference calls per day and constantly find that the speaker audio quality just plain sucks. The speaker output on my iPhone 6s (work paid for it) puts the 5X's speaker to shame. Not to mention the vastly superior build quality of the iPhone over the 5X. Unfortunately, I can't stand IOS so I always end up going back to the 5X. From everything I've read/seen the 6P speakers should be as good or better than the iPhone and the build quality is equally as good as that of the iPhone.
The biggest thing I keep struggling with is the size. I hated the Nexus 6 because it was just too big and I never got used to it. I've read posts and watched video reviews that seem to show the new design of the 6P really makes it feel much smaller than the previous Nexus 6. I wish a local BetBuy had one for me to go play with but they don't have any display models.
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The size honestly isn't as bad as the Nexus 6. It is a slimmer phone, for sure not as wide, and does not feel like a whale in your hand and pockets. You should try holding a Galaxy Note 5 or Iphone 6S Plus in store, I would describe the 6P feel in and like a mix between the two. The 6S Plus feels a bit bulky too me, and the Note 5 feels smaller because of its bezel. The 6P is by no means a small phone, but it feels nice in hand.
Yeah, the iPhone 6S was too bulky to me. I haven't tried the Note 5 though. I have to make a trip to Best Buy tomorrow so I'll spend some time with their display Note 5 to see how it feels. Thanks for the tip.
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The size honestly isn't as bad as the Nexus 6. It is a slimmer phone, for sure not as wide, and does not feel like a whale in your hand and pockets. You should try holding a Galaxy Note 5 or Iphone 6S Plus in store, I would describe the 6P feel in and like a mix between the two. The 6S Plus feels a bit bulky too me, and the Note 5 feels smaller because of its bezel. The 6P is by no means a small phone, but it feels nice in hand.
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I agree coming from a smaller s4. While the 6p is a big phone. It has a great balance and feel in the hand. I don't even think about the size of the phone.
If stock Android isn't a must for you, then I absolutely wouldn't touch a 6P right now. Much better phones were just announced over the weekend.
I know I will get a ton of hate for that answer, but it's the truth.
On the flip side, if stock Android is important to you, then yes, take the leap.
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If stock Android isn't a must for you, then I absolutely wouldn't touch a 6P right now. Much better phones were just announced over the weekend.
I know I will get a ton of hate for that answer, but it's the truth.
On the flip side, if stock Android is important to you, then yes, take the leap.
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Till when is going to support the nexus 6p?
aygul12345 said:
Till when is going to support the nexus 6p?
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I'm sorry, I don't understand your question.
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I mean the software support
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I mean the software support
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Oh, at least 2 years, or more. Nothing to worry about there.
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Oh, at least 2 years, or more. Nothing to worry about there.
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As a user view, are there cons about after a month or 3/4 with this phone? Lagy or stutter?
sn0warmy said:
FYI: Nexus phones are typically announced in October and released sometime in late November. Buying the 6P now will still give you a solid 9 months of use before you could even get your hands on the 2016 Nexus phones anyway.
I have a 5X and I'm actually considering a 6P at the moment as well. Over the past 3 months of use I've found that I am always underwhelmed by the speaker output. I have 1-3 conference calls per day and constantly find that the speaker audio quality just plain sucks. The speaker output on my iPhone 6s (work paid for it) puts the 5X's speaker to shame. Not to mention the vastly superior build quality of the iPhone over the 5X. Unfortunately, I can't stand IOS so I always end up going back to the 5X. From everything I've read/seen the 6P speakers should be as good or better than the iPhone and the build quality is equally as good as that of the iPhone.
The biggest thing I keep struggling with is the size. I hated the Nexus 6 because it was just too big and I never got used to it. I've read posts and watched video reviews that seem to show the new design of the 6P really makes it feel much smaller than the previous Nexus 6. I wish a local BetBuy had one for me to go play with but they don't have any display models.
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If your really that ambitious to think you would like one, without ever picking up the actual phone, I ordered mine from best buy and picked up in 3 days. They assured me 14 days with the phone to try it out, and a return policy with no questions asked. I can tell you I was skeptical of never buying a phone without actually physically touching it. And now after having the phone for almost a month I can say this will be a phone I can value for the next 3 years.
vince20d said:
If your really that ambitious to think you would like one, without ever picking up the actual phone, I ordered mine from best buy and picked up in 3 days. They assured me 14 days with the phone to try it out, and a return policy with no questions asked. I can tell you I was skeptical of never buying a phone without actually physically touching it. And now after having the phone for almost a month I can say this will be a phone I can value for the next 3 years.
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Wow, really?! Hmmmm but are you experience any cons after a few days/months? That mabby stutter or hangs/lagg?
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I mean the software support
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The 2013 Nexus 5 and 7 are still being updated with the monthly security updates currently, so I would expect the 6P to be supported by Google for at least another couple of years.
vince20d said:
If your really that ambitious to think you would like one, without ever picking up the actual phone, I ordered mine from best buy and picked up in 3 days. They assured me 14 days with the phone to try it out, and a return policy with no questions asked. I can tell you I was skeptical of never buying a phone without actually physically touching it. And now after having the phone for almost a month I can say this will be a phone I can value for the next 3 years.
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Interesting. I considered going the BestBuy route since they told me they could have it for me by Friday. But i'd like to get Nexus protect too. Is it possible to get Nexus protect even if you don't order it directly from Google?
I already have a buyer lined up for my Nexus 5X so I'm about to pull the trigger either way.
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The 2013 Nexus 5 and 7 are still being updated with the monthly security updates currently, so I would expect the 6P to be supported by Google for at least another couple of years.
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Thanks!
Can you tell me if your have problems with the ram management bugg? Or " OK, google " that doesnt work properly?
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Do you think google will release a nexus 6p successor with android N this summer ?

Now that google has announced that the final version of Android N will be available in summer , do you think google will also release a new phone at that time?
I think every android release so far has been accompanied by hardware, although I think that jellybean was released with the nexus 7 ( a tablet) and now would be a good time to release a nexus 9 successor, but technically summer ends the first week of September, and the nexus 6p was released at the end of September, so who knows, just pure speculation , what do you think?
I wouldn't mind a nexus 6ps lol , a nexus 6p with way smaller bezels, bigger battery , snapdragon 820, no chamfered edges, a more scratch resistant aluminium, better camera and good camera software
I think that Google will release another Nexus 6(x) device and maybe finally a newer Tablet too. I hope for the love of God that the Nexus 6 (2016) and Nexus Tablet (2016) won´t be manufactured by Huawei or Asus
HTC is supposedly developing both new nexus 5 and 6 for 2016. Codenames seem to indicate that the screen sizes will be 5.0 and 5.5 inches.
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It's a very good bet...
Gorgtech said:
I think that Google will release another Nexus 6(x) device and maybe finally a newer Tablet too. I hope for the love of God that the Nexus 6 (2016) and Nexus Tablet (2016) won´t be manufactured by Huawei or Asus
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Why not ? I think huawei did quite a good job with the Nexus 6p , LG on the other part was quite disappointing
Chad_Petree said:
Why not ? I think huawei did quite a good job with the Nexus 6p , LG on the other part was quite disappointing
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I agree 100%. Huawei did a damn good job.
I´m not very happy with the build quality of the Nexus 6P to be honest. It looks good on the outside but this device has some structural flaws. It warps or even bends at some point. It´s a nightmare to open and to repair too if you don´t want to wait for several months for a replacement device which could be even worse ( eg. include a faulty screen ).
In terms of build quality, reliability I rather trust LG more. These devices are very easy to open and not made in such a way that you need to baby them a lot. This is what I don´t like about Huawei. In the end I think that the Nexus 6P is just the Android version of a crApple device: looks good but has flaws which cannot justify the expensive price ( especially in Germany ).
To be honest, I have my doubts that I would want to get another Huawei device again.
Hmm the current 100$ price discount makes me more suspicious
Not until fall like they do every year
There were a lot of rumours recently about a new N7, which could get a summer release as did the others. There won't be a new phone until October.
I like the 6p, but not as much as I thought I would. It's just a little too big and a little too thin. A redesign of the dimensions would please me. The one plus two, for example, got it right between large screen size, bezels, depth and overall footprint.
Gorgtech said:
I´m not very happy with the build quality of the Nexus 6P to be honest. It looks good on the outside but this device has some structural flaws. It warps or even bends at some point. It´s a nightmare to open and to repair too if you don´t want to wait for several months for a replacement device which could be even worse ( eg. include a faulty screen ).
In terms of build quality, reliability I rather trust LG more. These devices are very easy to open and not made in such a way that you need to baby them a lot. This is what I don´t like about Huawei. In the end I think that the Nexus 6P is just the Android version of a crApple device: looks good but has flaws which cannot justify the expensive price ( especially in Germany ).
To be honest, I have my doubts that I would want to get another Huawei device again.
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Never had any bending or warping on mine. I will never understand why people care at all about the ability to open a phone yourself. All that says is if there is a problem the company probably won't open the phone and try to repair it and just send you a refurb. I much prefer that over having someone trying to open my phone and repair it. The quality will never be the same after opening it.
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There were a lot of rumours recently about a new N7, which could get a summer release as did the others. There won't be a new phone until October.
I like the 6p, but not as much as I thought I would. It's just a little too big and a little too thin. A redesign of the dimensions would please me. The one plus two, for example, got it right between large screen size, bezels, depth and overall footprint.
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The bezels are the most disappointing part of the phone for me, specially after having owned the nexus 6
Don't underestimate Huawei after 6p
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There's no reason to underestimate Huawei, I've liked the design of some previous handsets if not the final implementation. The 6P is a good piece of kit but could be improved in the ways that I described and the OP agrees.
The 1+2 is 151.8 x 74.9 x 9.85 mm with a 139.7mm screen (73.3 ratio),
the 6p is 159.3 x 77.8 x 7.3 mm with a 144.8mm screen (71.4 ratio)--for info, I really wish I'd kept the photos of them side by side
It's pretty clear that the latter's design trades everything for depth, but in the process makes it more cumbersome to use. What I'd like to see, to slip back to the OP's topic, is the next iteration of Nexus phones take usability AND aesthetics as a combined first step. They'll be sure to have the internals, and the 1+2 and many other phones show that they can fit in a better footprint.
i recently changed to 6p got so sick of touchwix and i apparently love stock andriod from nexus so im hoping google will manufactor a better nexus N7
If google makes a tiny ass 5.5" phone and not 5.7" i wont be buying this year. I dont want a teeny ****ing phone, if they dont produce a suitable device i am Note 6 this year
Is a nexus 6p a good phone? I see some people having lagg issues...
kboya said:
The 1+2 is 151.8 x 74.9 x 9.85 mm with a 139.7mm screen (73.3 ratio),
the 6p is 159.3 x 77.8 x 7.3 mm with a 144.8mm screen (71.4 ratio)--for info, I really wish I'd kept the photos of them side by side
It's pretty clear that the latter's design trades everything for depth, but in the process makes it more cumbersome to use
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They just wanted to match apples thickness 7.3 mm I would have prefered to have a 8 mm phone with slimmer bezels than a 7.3 mm with huge bezels, but oh well, they just wanted to give us reasons to upgrade to the nexus 7 2016 right?
Mr Patchy Patch said:
I agree 100%. Huawei did a damn good job.
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I agree. I've had em all starting with the G1. Love my 6p most. I'd be insane not to. This thing is awesome. Look at the history of Nexis. Ha. We have the best now. I'll likely keep mine for 2 years which is very unusual for me. Unusually sell in a year or less.
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Is a nexus 6p a good phone? I see some people having lagg issues...
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Never had that issue! In fact I use it with power saver governor and only have a little bit of lag but insane battery life! This things a speed demon.
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New Nexus 2016 phone

http://bgr.com/2016/07/06/google-nexus-2016-pictures/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...us-phones-sailfish-and-marlin-will-look-like/
A few articles have been written about the rumored new Nexus phone. If this is how it looks, it looks horrible. The front facing speakers appears to be gone and it looks very iPhone-esq.......similar to HTC's A10.
If it is accurate, it looks pretty bad compared to Motorola's 6.
mikeprius said:
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If it is accurate, it looks pretty bad compared to Motorola's 6.
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The economic position of HTC will be worse.
mikeprius said:
A few articles have been written about the rumored new Nexus phone. If this is how it looks, it looks horrible. The front facing speakers appears to be gone and it looks very iPhone-esq.......similar to HTC's A10.
If it is accurate, it looks pretty bad compared to Motorola's 6.
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It's all still leaks and rumors at this point but if things play out the way the leaks are leaning, I'll still be hanging on to my Nexus 6. With the larger screen and running Android Nougat at a more than acceptable performance level I just can't find anything that compels me to upgrade.
Even though that's just a rumour and not confirmed, I gotta say HTC really hasn't changed much in a decade. My HTC Sensation looks pretty similar to that, and it's ancient. No, I don't use it anymore, it's a backup phone in case my other device breaks. lol. In other words; not liking it and won't be getting one.
My contract ends around the same time as the new line of Nexus' come around. If HTC fails to wow me, it seems as though I might be going for the galaxy note 7 or s7 edge. Not a big fan of restricted Samsung, otherwise I'd use the OnePlus 3, but alas it doesn't support CDMA
The bigger Nexus 6 variant will probably look slightly different from the smaller though.
I kinda like the new look, but don't like that they're ditching the stereo speakers. I think I'll hold on to the N6 until it dies on me.
Those are just renders. Hopefully they won't ditch the stereo speakers. Either way I'll be sticking to the nexus 6 for a while and wait for reviews instead of purchasing it right away. Judging from the renders, I don't like the look but it might grow on me eventually, kinda like the camera bump on the nexus 6p. I'm actually more excited about custom Roms on Nougat that the new devices. My phone contract finished March next year and even then if the new devices does not seem to fit me I probably would have to wait. The nexus 6 is a fully capable phone for this day and age and will continue to be for a long time thanks to the xda community. The whale will definitely be a legendary phone in my book.
Arju007 said:
Those are just renders. Hopefully they won't ditch the stereo speakers. Either way I'll be sticking to the nexus 6 for a while and wait for reviews instead of purchasing it right away. ....
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That's wise. I would prefer a phone with a new display like
http://www.slashgear.com/jdi-full-active-lcd-panel-has-nearly-no-bezels-10451334/
I've been watching the leaks and rumors and yeah I'm not too excited. I'll probably be sticking with the 6. For me 6" is the perfect size and I love the stereo speakers and wireless charging. And it's plenty fast enough so I don't see any compelling reason to "upgrade" at this point.
I'd be more compelled to pick up a 6P which will have a reduced price when the Nexus 2016 comes out.
Well I suppose once it comes out the 6p will be cheaper so if the HTC isn't great there will be a cheaper option. I'm guessing they will price it around $500 which has been pretty typical for the Nexus pricing.
HTC has been struggling since they had their last real hit the M8
The rumor design though with no front facing speakers looks awful but would be consistent with HTC lol
Will there ever be a 6" Nexus in the future?
i love the nexus 6 except for the weight of it. the shape was great but right now id prefer something flat.
the only reason why im interested in the new nexus is because of daydream. other than that the nexus' killer features are the screen - 6" qhd amoled - pretty much unique, stereo speakers and qi charging.
will the new nexus have any 2 out of the 3 of these? i sure hope so!
This may be something to wait for....
http://www.slashgear.com/jdi-full-active-lcd-panel-has-nearly-no-bezels-10451334/
what is daydream? doesn't the nexus 6 already have that? I've never seen it do anything
Not certain those HTC really appeal to me. Depends on what phones Verizon has in September, or is announced for it.
buschris said:
what is daydream? doesn't the nexus 6 already have that? I've never seen it do anything
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Daydream has two meanings
1 screensaver while charging
2 compatibility with new vr standards
Since our nexus 6 already has #1, I'm guessing he means #2
I don't like these renders either. But I remember the dislike for the 6P when renders and test units started showing up. Most hated the design because of the "LaForge" visor. But once we got the real deal it looked much better than anticipated.
Hopefully that's gonna be the case here.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...he-2016-nexus-sailfish-in-the-metallic-flesh/
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Google's new Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones are now finally official. Differentiated primarily by the size and resolution of their screens — 5-inch 1080p display on the Pixel and 5.5-inch Quad HD panel on the XL —Google’s Pixel smartphones are the first devices in the U.S. to be powered by Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 821 processor, which reportedly sees a 10 percent performance increase over the Snapdragon 820. Both have 4GB of RAM, Gorilla Glass 4, fingerprint sensors, USB Type-C ports, and storage options between 32GB and 128GB. The only other difference here is the battery — the larger phone has a 3,450mAh battery, and the regular Pixel has one with a 2,770mAh capacity.
People who are disappointed from Google Pixel phone please don't post here as this i have started this thread for good and positive comments.:laugh::silly:
Root will not be a problem with unlocked bootloader, only locked bootloaders will be forever ****ed...and i dont see google locking it down. Yes a new method will have to be worked out but it will be worked out. There is a great article on android central http://m.androidcentral.com/android-and-chill-nougat-and-root-question
I'm so glad they are "cloning" the iPhone design. I've always loved the iPhone hardware, but their OS and software is just locked-down garbage. And the Pixel hardware looks better than any iPhone. Can't wait to see some specs from Google!
i m sure there will be root our talented xda devs must be working hard on it and they will gain root access.
Design: pretty disappointed due to its close resemblance with iphone , nexus 6p looks way cooler and original in terms of design.
Specs: an obvious upgrade from previous years 810 but like nexus 6p this will soon be outdated with the emergence of new flagships of early 2017.
camera: don't expect anything major in this department.
Software experience: would be similar to previous nexus phones if anything comes as exclusive, it'll be ported to other devices in no time.
AlwaysLucky said:
I'm so glad they are "cloning" the iPhone design. I've always loved the iPhone hardware, but their OS and software is just locked-down garbage. And the Pixel hardware looks better than any iPhone. Can't wait to see some specs from Google!
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If only Qualcomm could match the A10 specs.
Does the 821 fix the throttling issues of the 810 on the 6P. Throttling is the only reason I'm looking to upgrade at all. Other than that I love my 6P.
seriously considering it since my nexus 6 screen is shattered. Rumors are discouraging me so i might opt for a one plus 3 or a 6p for now if It seriously disappoints after release. But I hope it does pan out to be an amazing phone. Wish the xl was a little bigger tho.
I am using note 5 and screen size is 5.7 and i hope so the screen size is 5.7 which is unlikely [emoji2] [emoji2]
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what do you guys thing about the new rumor?
http://www.gsmarena.com/alleged_official_render_of_the_google_pixel_with_no_home_sensor_button-news-20716.php
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what do you guys thing about the new rumor?
http://www.gsmarena.com/alleged_official_render_of_the_google_pixel_with_no_home_sensor_button-news-20716.php
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I don't recall anyone thinking this phone was going to have a home button. The phone it was based on (some HTC phone) had a home button on the bottom, but Google isn't going to do that - instead putting it on the back. Now there's just a huge bezel, no bottom speakers or anything.
i still feel this is not the last leak there will be some more changes.
I love the new leaks. I'll buy either way. If it's announced on the 4th when will pre-order be?
tigercranestyle said:
pixel xl photo leaked today. yesterday was the regular pixel.
the bezel ratio looks more respectable than the regular pixel. for me personally, i don't need a home button or any unnecessary designs going on on the bottom of the phone. for me it's distracting/tacky. sure there could have been a speaker on the bottom front, but all is forgiven if they bring the 10's speaker setup. to each their own.
edit: and of course the photo is courtesy of evleaks on twitter.
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How good is the 10's speaker setup?
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just a bit below the 6p in volume, but it was very noticeably more crisp imo. there's a very easy vid to find on youtube that also mentioned this. this is why i'm hopeful with the pixel xl, HTC making it, and the "not that big" bezel. i just can't picture google not opting for a similar setup if they didn't go for front-facing.
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Cool deal. My 6P speakers are definitely loud...but I had a much better "sound" with a Nexus 5 Surround Sound mod I did with Viper4Android. Got tired with root and all that so if I could get a similar sound out the box that'd be good enough to me.
Don't care for the specs, so probably blow this Pixel off. Happy with 6P but watching the Huawei Mate 9 release...
AndrasLOHF said:
Does the 821 fix the throttling issues of the 810 on the 6P. Throttling is the only reason I'm looking to upgrade at all. Other than that I love my 6P.
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As of right now we have no idea. But given Google's previous implementation of Qualcomm chips in their devices and how they deal with heat dispersion and throttling I assume that this will have no issue if at all.
Amritttt said:
i still feel this is not the last leak there will be some more changes.
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There won't be any more "changes" and those are official Google pictures given to retailers, as well as specs. They just leaked from retailers a couple of days early.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68968705&postcount=77
Honestly. If google goes with this rumored high price. I do expect something up their sleeve. Greatly improved camera. Extra software surprise, something. Maybe the xl starts out at the $650 mark. I have faith in google not letting everyone Down. They always make it worth it to me.
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AndrasLOHF said:
Does the 821 fix the throttling issues of the 810 on the 6P. Throttling is the only reason I'm looking to upgrade at all. Other than that I love my 6P.
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You need to find the right kernel to handle that.

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