Received a 5.0.1 - Fire General

I was looking for a cheap tablet I could mount on the wall for home automation stuff. (I mostly use voice control, but I wanted something the housekeeper, pet sitter etc. would be more comfortable with.) So after researching I decided on the Fire, but thought I would get the most recent version and wouldn't be able to root. Still, I thought I could make it work with the addition of the Play Store.
I was thrilled when a 5.0.1 version showed up on my porch last night. Ignored all the demands to connect my wifi while I figured out what to do next. Getting the ADB drivers installed was the biggest challenge, but after that, thanks to Rootjunky's original Fire tool, I was able to quickly root, remove the ads, and install the Nova launcher. Thanks to a post here I was able to remove most of the Amazon stock junk safely. Now I have a perfect, cheap device that will do exactly what I want.
Thanks to all the XDA contributors who made it possible. You are awesome.

I share in your joy. I ordered three of these things, one for me and two for my kids. I got 5.1.1 (16GB), and the 8GB ones for my kids were 5.1.3 (not the newest 5.3.1), and 5.0.1. They seem to keep pretty loose track of what version is on the tabs they send out.
If only my 16GB unit were the one on 5.0.1... Oh well, thanks to the awesome people here, they are all actually running 5.3.1, but with their original bootloaders.
I raise my virtual glass to the great devs here!
Sent from my KFFOWI using Tapatalk

Mor Hedroom said:
If only my 16GB unit were the one on 5.0.1... Oh well, thanks to the awesome people here, they are all actually running 5.3.1, but with their original bootloaders.
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I haven't quite figured out updating without losing root. Can you point me in the right direction?

LynnL said:
I haven't quite figured out updating without losing root. Can you point me in the right direction?
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This is the relevant thread. Play close attention to details in the OP. It can be a bit much to digest; ask questions in that thread (not here) as needed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ama...stall-fireos-5-1-1-root-gapps-t3265594/page20

I was afraid that was it Thank you.

Davey126 said:
This is the relevant thread. Play close attention to details in the OP. It can be a bit much to digest; ask questions in that thread (not here) as needed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ama...stall-fireos-5-1-1-root-gapps-t3265594/page20
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I was afraid that was it Thank you.
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Yes, thank you Davey126! you beat me to it. In the post you link, I'm referring to success in upgrading 5.1.1 with FlashFire.
LynnL, you should go to the OP that Davey126 is mentioning in that thread and follow the directions for 5.0.1, the "good" bootloaders. They're way easier and less nerve-wracking to update. No FlashFire required. You don't even need to be rooted to start with. Just download the TWRP recovery, start it up as directed in fastboot mode, and install the .zips in the order specified, one at a time, not all at once. After that's all done, just reboot into your shiny new 5.3.1. Last thing I found when Play Store was misbehaving was to get into Settings -> Manage All Applications, then go to the "ALL" tab (3 or 4 swipes to the right) and tap on Google Play Services. Then tap "Manage Space" and finally "Clear All Data" at the bottom of the resulting screen. After that, Play store got right back on track.
Hope this all helps, and I'll shut up now so you can get to it. Also, as Davey126 said, any other questions are best left to that other thread. Happy Fire hacking.
-Hedroom

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Just bought a Samsung Vibrant questions.

Well, I don't have it yet bought it off Tmo online because I was offered the $165 deal. I am new to the whole android thing and never owned an android phone before. Been browsing this site for over an hour and had to make an account there is so much to learn.
I learned a lot and the tips and tricks told me a lot.
Though I would like to hear from you guys.
I don't plan on rooting it just yet but I don't like touchwiz so I will be using Launcher Pro.
What apps and tips do you recommend for me? I am very excited and cannot wait for my new phone. Will be hanging out here a lot!
So thanks in advance and awesome forum you guys have here.
~George
Congratulations, you will love it.
As soon as you get it, I'd recommend going to the market and browsing through all of the most popular applications. Remember that you can always uninstall apps you don't like. Even if you buy one, you have a significant window of time to uninstall it for a refund.
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Congratulations, you will love it.
As soon as you get it, I'd recommend going to the market and browsing through all of the most popular applications. Remember that you can always uninstall apps you don't like. Even if you buy one, you have a significant window of time to uninstall it for a refund.
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In addition to what I bolded above. The phone comes pre-installed with a lot of "bloatware" applications such as Kindle, MobiTV and all these other things. They cannot be uninstalled so technically you can't "uninstall apps that you don't like." The workaround is to root the phone and search the forum for removing stock apps and it'll be in there.
I would suggest trying out ADW Launcher rather than already deciding with Launcher Pro. Both has its advantages and its a matter of preference, both are great. I prefer ADW Launcher for more customization but it really depends on the user.
I would also lower the brightness all the way to the left simply because the phone is bright enough and it isn't necessary. This is a good way to have more hours on your battery. It might also be a good idea for when you get the phone, don't start off charging it right away. Let the battery drain to 0%.. keep turning the phone on until its unable to turn on, THEN start charging.. this way it will maximize the amount of hours on your battery. You might have to do this a couple of times to get the hand of it. The battery isn't a problem though, its pretty good compared to my previous phone, G1.
Chalup said:
Congratulations, you will love it.
As soon as you get it, I'd recommend going to the market and browsing through all of the most popular applications. Remember that you can always uninstall apps you don't like. Even if you buy one, you have a significant window of time to uninstall it for a refund.
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Awesome I am planning on using the GPS but all the GPS problems I am seeing is making me reluctant a bit. Let's hope I do not regret it.
Secondly refunds and apps sounds awesome *curses*Apple app store*curses*
Also when you buy an app does it charge your bill or a credit card?
I am a bit of a music freak and love having my music organized and I was told a program called "doubletwist" works great for android devices. I am looking for an alternative to itunes and zune software which have been great to me in organizing my music on my device.
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In addition to what I bolded above. The phone comes pre-installed with a lot of "bloatware" applications such as Kindle, MobiTV and all these other things. They cannot be uninstalled so technically you can't "uninstall apps that you don't like." The workaround is to root the phone and search the forum for removing stock apps and it'll be in there.
I would suggest trying out ADW Launcher rather than already deciding with Launcher Pro. Both has its advantages and its a matter of preference, both are great. I prefer ADW Launcher for more customization but it really depends on the user.
I would also lower the brightness all the way to the left simply because the phone is bright enough and it isn't necessary. This is a good way to have more hours on your battery. It might also be a good idea for when you get the phone, don't start off charging it right away. Let the battery drain to 0%.. keep turning the phone on until its unable to turn on, THEN start charging.. this way it will maximize the amount of hours on your battery. You might have to do this a couple of times to get the hand of it. The battery isn't a problem though, its pretty good compared to my previous phone, G1.
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Yah, I forgot to ask about that. I was wondering if I could remove the mobi tv app I will never use it. (avatar I want to see, I will definitely be using kindle and sims 3 is pretty cool I don't mind it at all)
Thanks for the suggestion about ADW Launcher I did already check it out and it's pretty awesome but I like the look of LP a bit more. I will certainly try both out though.
I will eventually root the phone however if samsung does not continue giving us support.
I did play with the phone for some time at the Tmobile store and I have to say I am super impressed with it. Hopefully it all works out for me.
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Yah, I forgot to ask about that. I was wondering if I could remove the mobi tv app I will never use it. (avatar I want to see, I will definitely be using kindle and sims 3 is pretty cool I don't mind it at all)
Thanks for the suggestion about ADW Launcher I did already check it out and it's pretty awesome but I like the look of LP a bit more. I will certainly try both out though.
I will eventually root the phone however if samsung does not continue giving us support.
I did play with the phone for some time at the Tmobile store and I have to say I am super impressed with it. Hopefully it all works out for me.
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You can ONLY remove it when you root your phone, basically the stock apps cannot be removed because they're located in /system/apps/ and you'll get Permission Denied. The root process takes less than a minute and theres a "One click" root floating around the dev forum. On the stickied thread theres instructions on how to un-root, which is fairly simple as well.
I'm pretty sure Samsung will continue supporting the phone, its one of their significant releases. I prefer having custom ROMs since they add more features to the phone that wouldn't normally come along with the stock ROM.
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You can ONLY remove it when you root your phone, basically the stock apps cannot be removed because they're located in /system/apps/ and you'll get Permission Denied. The root process takes less than a minute and theres a "One click" root floating around the dev forum. On the stickied thread theres instructions on how to un-root, which is fairly simple as well.
I'm pretty sure Samsung will continue supporting the phone, its one of their significant releases. I prefer having custom ROMs since they add more features to the phone that wouldn't normally come along with the stock ROM.
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I am not going to bull**** anyone but I have no knowledge of rooting and have only been browsing this site for a 2 hours and I am kinda weary about it. But that one click makes it sound easy and harmless. Maybe you can guide me.
Also I went ahead and downloaded Double twist and fell in love with it. It uses AmazonMP3 which is something I have invested some money into and it has the appstore right there. I know for a fact that I will DEFINITELY enjoy my time with android now.
I am liking this more and more.Also thanks for the help I appreciate it! ^_^
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I am not going to bull**** anyone but I have no knowledge of rooting and have only been browsing this site for a 2 hours and I am kinda weary about it. But that one click makes it sound easy and harmless. Maybe you can guide me.
Also I went ahead and downloaded Double twist and fell in love with it. It uses AmazonMP3 which is something I have invested some money into and it has the appstore right there. I know for a fact that I will DEFINITELY enjoy my time with android now.
I am liking this more and more.Also thanks for the help I appreciate it! ^_^
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I thought you read the stickied post? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458 its all there rooting is like one of the first things discussed in that thread.
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I thought you read the stickied post? its all there rooting is like one of the first things discussed in that thread.
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I didn't read it in detail I just browsed through it but now I am
I will certainly post once I get the phone in and express my first impressions.

I've had it with stock

I was hanging on to Stock because I thought the amazon prime membership might be worthwhile, but after two painful OTA updates, I'm out.
I had even frozen OTASilentInstall after 6.2.1, but the damn thing updated anyway! I can't account for this, but it did happen.
I'm backing up my stuff now and will try CM7.
For the record, 6.2.2 breaks root and you need BurritoRoot2.bin to get it back. It's a pain and doesn't yet work like the original. (As far as I can tell, you have to reset it at each reboot. Probably OTA rootkeeper will work, but still a pain.)
What was painful about 6.2.2? You can easily root it again.
I gave up on stock a long time ago lol. Running ics now.
SirVilhelm said:
What was painful about 6.2.2? You can easily root it again.
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yes, you're right. I rootEd again long enough to install CM7.
I'd just had enough jumping through hoops getting my hardware to do what I wanted it to do.
I wish companies like Amazon would understand they would do better to cooperate with users than to fight against them or treat them like fools.
Agreed, I stayed with stock after the last update and root, but not again. I guess I didn't think it would happen again so fast.
I'd drop stock in a hot second if I could get the gameloft 'Kindle Fire Edition' games to run. Sadly there's something I'm missing in the system that keeps them from running in CM7.
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I was hanging on to Stock because I thought the amazon prime membership might be worthwhile, but after two painful OTA updates, I'm out.
I had even frozen OTASilentInstall after 6.2.1, but the damn thing updated anyway! I can't account for this, but it did happen.
I'm backing up my stuff now and will try CM7.
For the record, 6.2.2 breaks root and you need BurritoRoot2.bin to get it back. It's a pain and doesn't yet work like the original. (As far as I can tell, you have to reset it at each reboot. Probably OTA rootkeeper will work, but still a pain.)
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It's been said numerous times that freezing OTASilentInstall does not prevent updates. Also Amazon isn't trying to intentionally break your root..
this one prevented ota for me two times (6.2.1 & 6.2.2):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451328
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It's been said numerous times that freezing OTASilentInstall does not prevent updates. Also Amazon isn't trying to intentionally break your root..
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Yes, I read that yesterday. Hey, a lot goes on on this site! I can't keep up with every thread every day.
I should have researched preventing the OTA updates further. Like the following:
b63 said:
this one prevented ota for me two times (6.2.1 & 6.2.2):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451328
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Agreed, I stayed with stock after the last update and root, but not again. I guess I didn't think it would happen again so fast.
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Yup. It is a pain.
On the other hand. Now that I finally flashed CM7, it's fantastic! It essentially solves the issue in one fell swoop.
It seems to me, it all comes down to how much you plan to consume Amazon's services. If little to none, then CM7 or some other rom is the way to go. If you have or want a prime account, etc. then you have to deal with the workarounds.
Fair deal.
The only thing that kept me off of CM7 is the video issue relating to audio sync. Video is around .5 to .75 seconds ahead of audio at all times on Netflix. So right now I'm running the MoDaCo stock ROM, which I don't know if it will prevent OTA updates or not, but paulobrien gives you a pre-rooted, odexed ROM that's ready to fly. Then I just use a different launcher, and it at least FEELS less stock-ish.
A little lost....I am currently rooted, If I receive the 6.2.2 and root breaks....exactly what will I need to do?
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A little lost....I am currently rooted, If I receive the 6.2.2 and root breaks....exactly what will I need to do?
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You would want to follow the instructions found here. Although, per the post from jcase here, he has an app in the works that will put the OTA headaches behind us
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I'd drop stock in a hot second if I could get the gameloft 'Kindle Fire Edition' games to run. Sadly there's something I'm missing in the system that keeps them from running in CM7.
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I used this thread and got Order And Chaos working on CM7, runs perfect. Also, almost all the gameloft apps I was looking for showed up on the market.
The ONC I bought on the Amazon Market doesn't show up and I didn't try that one since I had picked up ONC on Android Market for .99 during the sale at New Years, so I don't know if KF edition will run. You may have to purchase them a second time.
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The only thing that kept me off of CM7 is the video issue relating to audio sync. Video is around .5 to .75 seconds ahead of audio at all times on Netflix. So right now I'm running the MoDaCo stock ROM, which I don't know if it will prevent OTA updates or not, but paulobrien gives you a pre-rooted, odexed ROM that's ready to fly. Then I just use a different launcher, and it at least FEELS less stock-ish.
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Oh, yeah, I had been using Go Launcher Ex with an ICS theme and was pretty happy with it.
The thing is, I had spent so much time setting everything up and the update undid a bunch of it, not just root. Plus it revived a lot of the bloatware I had already gotten rid of. It was enough to push me over the edge.
I backed up if I ever want to go back and I may also consider MoDaCo which looks good. MoDaCo with OTA protection would be very tempting, indeed.
I do give Amazon credit. What they did with KF, they intended to do and they did it well. It's just that I'm an inveterate tinkerer so I need my freedom! I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here on that point.
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You would want to follow the instructions found here. Although, per the post from jcase here, he has an app in the works that will put the OTA headaches behind us
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Gotcha....THANKS....will work on this this evening...

What are the differences between AT&T MK2 (4.3) & NB1 (4.4)?

Since @rebel1699 gave AT&T users a way to expirence 4.4.2 and still maintain some control, I've loaded a few 4.4.2 ROMs. With just a cusary glance I don't see or feel much difference. I was hoping folks sharper than I would discuss this so I (and hopefully others might learn a thing or two). I do know they added a dir system/priv-app to store some apks, but don't know why? Maybe this could be answered first and get the ball rolling. Discuss.
U have to look in the perspective of what google thought at that time. Google implemented system/priv-app and this had to be continued by CM and other AOSP roms or else Google has all the rights to sue them. Only apks in /system/priv-app can use "system"-level permissions.(Thats what i think and i know. I might be wrong?)And as Touchwiz is just a skin ontop of Android, Samsung and other OEMs had to go with this.
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U have to look in the perspective of what google thought at that time it implemented system/priv-app and this had to be continued by CM and other AOSP roms or else Google has all the rights to sue them. Only apks in /system/priv-app can use "system"-level permissions.(Thats what i think and i know. I might be wrong?)And as Touchwiz is just a skin ontop of Android, Samsung and other OEMs had to go with this.
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Interesting observation. :good: Excellent start. One could expand on this issue as It relates to (Better, Worse or No Change). Maybe it could be disussed how this changes modding, etc...
Responses need not be technical in nature--although they are appreciated--opinions as to how you find the experience of using 4.3 vs 4.4 are greatly appreciated and informative.
This is a group discussion simply to share observations.
If you want, you can just vote in the poll. Names of thevvoters are private. EDIT:
Thank you fellow xda members and mobile phone users of all types and levels.
Well...status bar now has white icons...theres a camera shortcut on the bottom right corner of the lockscreen. And the lockscreen when playing music is different...those are pretty obvious changes which im sure you've noticed already lololol
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KitKat changes the way apps can write to the SD card.
Does anyone know if you can still select the camera to save pics to external storage on KitKat? I don't have a card at the moment to test it out and would like to know before I give this phone to my wife.
Oh and BTW, my phone just updated to NB1 from MK2 by itself, I did not select anything to ok the install, just heard a noise on the phone and looked and it was installing.
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KitKat changes the way apps can write to the SD card.
Does anyone know if you can still select the camera to save pics to external storage on KitKat? I don't have a card at the moment to test it out and would like to know before I give this phone to my wife.
Oh and BTW, my phone just updated to NB1 from MK2 by itself, I did not select anything to ok the install, just heard a noise on the phone and looked and it was installing.
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Check this you can get something back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
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Well...status bar now has white icons...theres a camera shortcut on the bottom right corner of the lockscreen. And the lockscreen when playing music is different...those are pretty obvious changes which im sure you've noticed already lololol
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This is all interesting stuff!:good:
Raistlin1 said:
KitKat changes the way apps can write to the SD card.
Does anyone know if you can still select the camera to save pics to external storage on KitKat? I don't have a card at the moment to test it out and would like to know before I give this phone to my wife.
Oh and BTW, my phone just updated to NB1 from MK2 by itself, I did not select anything to ok the install, just heard a noise on the phone and looked and it was installing.
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OPEN QUESTION: How does kit kit change the phones communication/access with the micro SD card? Is this good for the user?
numbR7 said:
OPEN QUESTION: How does kit kit change the phones communication/access with the micro SD card? Is this good for the user?
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It's horrible for the user. Look at this link.
http://www.ibtimes.com/android-44-k...plained-root-access-fix-now-available-1562147
The way I was able to get the functionality back was by rooting (which is somewhat a pain on NB1) and using this method here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607215
I had to use method 2 since safestrap has issues flashing stuff to NB1.
Apparently this app also fixes it, but I haven't tried. But it still requires root.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
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It's horrible for the user. Look at this link.
http://www.ibtimes.com/android-44-k...plained-root-access-fix-now-available-1562147
The way I was able to get the functionality back was by rooting (which is somewhat a pain on NB1) and using this method here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607215
I had to use method 2 since safestrap has issues flashing stuff to NB1.
Apparently this app also fixes it, but I haven't tried. But it still requires root.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
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This is extremely interesting! A few more "uprades" like this and we'll all be using the I-droid!
VOTE!!
Hey guys--Thanks for the comments so far.
If you don't feel like commenting how 'bout voting? Names are not recorded in any way.
A vote kinda says it in a nutshell!
So far, basically we have these diffetences:
1. White status bar icons.
2. Camera shortcut on lockscreen
3. Restricted access to microSDCard in 4.4.2 (and we learned how to regain access)
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Since @rebel1699 gave AT&T users a way to expirence 4.4.2 and still maintain some control, I've loaded a few 4.4.2 ROMs. With just a cusary glance I don't see or feel much difference. I was hoping folks sharper than I would discuss this so I (and hopefully others might learn a thing or two). I do know they added a dir system/priv-app to store some apks, but don't know why? Maybe this could be answered first and get the ball rolling. Discuss.
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I am interested to learn this as well. For a casual user, it looks very similar.
OK guys, let's get specific! If 4.4 is better than 4.3--why? If it's not--why? Come on, share! I really think we need to stop taking so-called uprades for granted! I've seen guys/gals almost in tears over losing their custom recovery (MK2) or access to their microSDCard (that btw, cost people their hard earned money). Remember what the commercial sez "knowledge is power!" I believe that is part of what xda was founded on--discovering and sharing knowledge. I know good people from around the globe have increased my knowledge and enriched my phoning experience (if "phoning"is a real word) Instead of just taking all the time, I'm trying to find away to help out however small. I have had the pleasure of communicating with all types of phone enthusiast and am better for it! Give a little--take a little--Discuss!
Oh yeah, as you can see from my signature I want to verbalize a shamless plug for Hyperdrive ROM v15--it's saved me so far during the "lock down." A hardy thanks to @sbreen94!
Guedeaux said:
I am interested to learn this as well. For a casual user, it looks very similar.
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If you enjoy the idea of owning your phone instead of it owning you, I encourage you continue reading everthing you can. Though there are a few people with poor communication skills-shall we say-the vast majority of the folks around here will help you learn and get the most out of that expensive rectangle you bought. Read one of those "everthing you need to know for noobs threads"--they are well done and will get you started out right. Enjoy my friend!
You will see a "1" on your thanks meter becuase I appreciate your showing interest--and in that way you have helped me!
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Oh yeah, as you can see from my signature I want to verbalize a shamless plug for Hyperdrive ROM v15--it's saved me so far during the "lock down." A hardy thanks to @sbreen94!
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Actually, one of the reasons I was interested in the update is because I can't get Hyperdrive to work properly. I don't want to derail this thread, but I posted in another thread with someone who was having similar issues with Hyperdrive. If you get a chance, and have a second, please check out this thread. I really love Hyperdrive, but if I can't get it to work, I am thinking about just unrooting and upgrading to kitkat (but I would rather use Hyperdrive). Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51275339#post51275339
Well phone fans--when your thread drops off "General" to "Q&A" page 1 then drops a page a day--your thread has been bitten! This thread is now a "walker!" The merciful thing is a crossbow to the head from Daryl Dixon. LOL!
Thanks to the folks who contributed. I learned few things and I hope others did as well. Off topic -- I even got a chance to actually help someone with a significant problem. So, thanks for that--it's nice to be the helper rather than the helpee for a change.
Well Daryl, don't miss -- "LOOSE!!!!
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You will see a "1" on your thanks meter because I appreciate your showing interest--and in that way you have helped me!
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But what if I already had 2 thanks and magically dropped to 1? Would my life be a lie?
Dabreaker9 said:
But what if I already had 2 thanks and magically dropped to 1? Would my life be a lie?
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A question for the ages! All I can say is "brood over it brother, brood over it..."
My AT&T S4 says camera pic to SD card and I am on NB1 4.4.2 It says it to Storage/extSdCard/ DCIM/ Camera Pictures camera takes are in there on my SD card. Have you gone into Camera settings and at bottom of list STORAGE is set to Memory Card, Not Device. Just keep hitting the Setting icon on each screen until you get to screen with Lacation Tag Review etc.

So does Android Pay still work with Systemless Root?

So I haven't been keeping up the last few months on Android Pay. I know a few weeks back it stopped working with Systemless Root. I then read there was a work around to disable SU and then use AP. That seems pretty pointless as you gotta go into the phone and click extra things before using it (defeats the purpose of it's convenience). So has a new work around been found to use AP without any extra steps like before?
Short answer, yes, there is a way.
Check the last few pages of this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/supersu-safetynet-android-pay-t3298115
which will also point to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-systemless-xposed-t3388268
Seems like a pain in the butt. I've stopped using AP, can't give up root.
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Short answer, yes, there is a way.
Check the last few pages of this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/supersu-safetynet-android-pay-t3298115
which will also point to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-systemless-xposed-t3388268
Seems like a pain in the butt. I've stopped using AP, can't give up root.
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Do you know if this all works on nougat?
It worked for people on DP5. Haven't checked to see if running on final release. Reviewing those threads will probably answer that.
And, in re-reading your original post.....it's not an *easy* way.
Pig Vomit said:
It worked for people on DP5. Haven't checked to see if running on final release. Reviewing those threads will probably answer that.
And, in re-reading your original post.....it's not an *easy* way.
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It's actually pretty simple using magisk to get it to work. It took me like 10 minutes to get it all up and running on Official Nougat :good:
Easy to set up.....but seems like a hassle to use, no? Plus running a root method other than SuperSU concerns me from a safety standpoint. But then again, Chainfire is stepping away from SuperSU, and who/what is CCMT? Also don't need/want Xposed.
How many clicks to disable root for AP use? How many to re-enable?
My nightmare: getting to the front of the line and didn't prep to use AP.....delaying people behind me. Don't want to be *that* guy. How many seconds to prepare for AP?
Pig Vomit said:
Easy to set up.....but seems like a hassle to use, no? Plus running a root method other than SuperSU concerns me from a safety standpoint. But then again, Chainfire is stepping away from SuperSU, and who/what is CCMT? Also don't need/want Xposed.
How many clicks to disable root for AP use? How many to re-enable?
My nightmare: getting to the front of the line and didn't prep to use AP.....delaying people behind me. Don't want to be *that* guy. How many seconds to prepare for AP?
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Open the Magisk Manager app and click the toggle to disable root...use AP....open Magisk Manager re-enable root. That's it.

[HELP THREAD] Ask any Questions [NOOB FRIENDLY]

Welcome everyone!​This thread has been created for extreme newbies/noobs and for their benefit. Not only noobs, but everyone is free to post questions and also give answers to those questions. Any type of question is allowed as long as it is related about the device. No off-topic discussions are allowed!
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PoseidonKing
Hey I have a noob question - what's the point of this thread when this section is about questions?
poczynek said:
Hey I have a noob question - what's the point of this thread when this section is about questions?
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Hi
The Q/A section is for questions, sure! But newbies create individual threads for asking noob questions. Is it not better to create one single thread where noob questions can be posted? Also, every thread created by a newbie doesn't always get answered, creating garbage in the Q/A section. In such cases, I've seen some members creating duplicate threads with the same question but a different thread name. Thought it would be better to create a place where they can at least have hopes to get answers.
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PoseidonKing
Well I'll post here for the meantime, hopefully someone answers so i don't have to create a new thread.
Does the S8/S8+have replaceable/removable batteries?
Pull the battery, put in another. So on, so forth.
Monty informed me that all is well on the property
Thanks in advance.
Skebodan said:
Well I'll post here for the meantime, hopefully someone answers so i don't have to create a new thread.
Does the S8/S8+have replaceable/removable batteries?
Pull the battery, put in another. So on, so forth.
Monty informed me that all is well on the property
Thanks in advance.
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No, not removable. Unless you unassembled the phone...
Skebodan said:
Well I'll post here for the meantime, hopefully someone answers so i don't have to create a new thread.
Does the S8/S8+have replaceable/removable batteries?
Pull the battery, put in another. So on, so forth.
Monty informed me that all is well on the property
Thanks in advance.
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Samsung hasn't done removable batteries since the S6... and considering all the major manufacturers have made the decision to go the sealed batter route, at least on the high-end market, I don't see removable batteries coming back. :/
It's not AS bad if you plan on changing your phone every 1-2 years, BUT for those who keep their phones for 3+ years, it's a concern. However, most people seem to be on that 1-2 replacement cycle, so manufacturers go with the majority, vs the small subset of people who keep their phones for an extended period.
OK so I've had all the nexus phones since the GNex (except the 5X) and have been happily rooted and flashing ROMS, but I'm a noob as far as recent Samsung's go.
Today I impulse ordered a UK Snapdragon S8 (The device is EPIC in hand)..... What's the likelihood of root & custom roms happening? this could honestly make or break me taking delivery of the device
I presume this isn't multiuser, unless Samsung have changed approach. How do we make it so?
Good evening all,
I'm really excited about getting the S8 plus in a few weeks!! but I have a question, as I have had my brain numbed by the one for all iOS I have lost all knowledge of android and apps that are a must.
with my older android handsets i always had a file manager app that I can't remember what I used for but just know it was one first apps i installed. Anyone got and must haves for the latest android OS?
Running
Hi,guys recently got the s8plus i with like to know how much battery life gets saved by using power saving mode on is it major or less?and which one do you use,and also if using a darker theme saves more battery
andycat said:
I presume this isn't multiuser, unless Samsung have changed approach. How do we make it so?
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You can download kidsmode, which can set the phone into limited access environment for children. Also you can use Knox or use secure folder to set separate account with restricted access. But in personal device like a phone, most people carry in their pocket I don't see much demand for full multiuser setup similar to one on PC.
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running water said:
Good evening all,
I'm really excited about getting the S8 plus in a few weeks!! but I have a question, as I have had my brain numbed by the one for all iOS I have lost all knowledge of android and apps that are a must.
with my older android handsets i always had a file manager app that I can't remember what I used for but just know it was one first apps i installed. Anyone got and must haves for the latest android OS?
Running
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Phone comes preloaded with Facebook, Youtube and a whole Google set of apps. There are few file managers in Play store like ES file manager or Total Commander, but that's a personal preference. You may want to have something for backup, like Titanium, or PhoneInfo for information or 3C Toolbox for details on hardware settings etc. But IMO there is no must have APP, it all depends on your particular use and interest.
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How waterproof can it be?
It is there any method to clean the ports of the phone after sea water and sand?
Stupid questions?
Never used Android (iPhone users since day one).
Really want to move to Android while my friend wants to move to iPhone. So we can trade our phones.
She has S8 with T-Mobile (the phone is unlocked because she purchased it) and I have 7plus with Verizon.
She is willing to move to Verizon so my phone is perfect for her.
I read that her S8 can be flashed so it would work on Verizon.
Questions:
1) where can I obtain steps by steps to this procedure?
2) Functionally, is there anything Negative of flashing a TMobile to Verizon? One of my co-worker stated that you can't auto upgrade on the phone firmware down the road and there are glitches.
3) Is this the same as ROOT?
Thank you for your expertise.
After accepting the July security update from Tmobile,long pressing my home key no longer launches Google Assistant, Just Brings up Google Now. What gives?
Shutter Sound on the Unlocked Version of the Galaxy S8
Hi everyone. Noob to this forum and this is my first post.
My question is regarding the shutter sound on the camera. I have the US unlocked version of the phone (not carrier unlocked). I've made tinkers to it already (disabling permissions, etc.). But I noticed the option to turn off the camera's shutter sound is missing. Not sure if this is due to me tinkering or if the option is not even available on the unlocked version.
I went to Verizon today to play with their version, and it has the option to disable the sound.
Can anyone confirm that the stock unlocked version of the S8 indeed doesn't come with the option to turn off the shutter sound? I was going to do a hard reset to see if maybe I discabled something by accident, but would rather not go through the hassle of reconfiguring my device all over again.
Thanks in advance!
hi guys... i am really confused which phone to get. confused btw oneplus5 and S8. can you guys give your opinion on the S8 so it helps me to choose?
the only thing oneplus5 has better for me is the battery life and dual camera. how is the battery life for s8? how much screen on time are you getting with heavy usage?
Hello every one.
I own a french Galaxy S8 bought with SFR (a french carrier).
After certains phone calls (Voice mail, Customer Services) and if the other person hangs up ok google is not reconized anymore.
I tried to flash other firmware, reset the phone, unistall google, clear google data but that's not helping at all.
The only fix is to kill google app via the setting but it's stop working as soon you do a "bad" phone call.
My girlfriend's S7 have the same problem...
The only solution I found is to install newer versions that i can't find in the playstore of google app, play store and google play services taken form apkmirror. The issue is still here but I have to do more calls to trigger it. Strange fact but the last beta of the google app works worse than the previous (behave like the play store version).
I thought turning off the wifi will help because my S8 and my girlfriend S7 have this in common but it doesn't help.
I'm very perfectionist so i had search this issue from weeks but no solition found.
Sorry for my english, I'm French.
Any ideas ?
Have a nice day.
Acess root
I have a stupid and nobbie question: How to root the s8+? I dont want to install any roms, i need only to use titanium backup and sixaxis controller.
danieljin said:
I have a stupid and nobbie question: How to root the s8+? I dont want to install any roms, i need only to use titanium backup and sixaxis controller.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...pment/recovery-twrp-galaxy-s8-exynos-t3595102
Follow this guide here for steps to flash TWRP first. Follow it EXACTLY step by step and you will have no issues.
After TWRP is fully flashed correctly amd you can boot into TWRP then flash magisk v13.3 from here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
Again, follow all steps EXACTLY as they are posted and you should have no issues

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