Database Users

[Q] Root Block: Intentional or Bug?

Cyanogen is saying its a bug. Tmo is saying its a feature. which one is correct?
If it is indeed a bug how would tmo go about fixing our phones? mass recall? sweep under the rug?
If its a feature, is it a precursor to what future phones will be?
Either outcome isnt very good for the consumer and may lead to lots of lost customers for tmo. Specially after tmo releasing a statement that its a feature of the phone.
I love this phone, the very first smartphone i ever had, and was really looking forward to hacking around with it but its hard to justify such a device that locks you out of such features. I hope cyanogen and all the other great devs work out a solution to this problem. I dont want to send it back.
looked for similar threads and couldnt find any.
info link:
h**p://phandroid.com/2010/10/11/cyanogen-calls-shenanigans-on-t-mobile-g2-root-fail-safe-mechanism/

Read teh goddamn internets!
Wtf people??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!

d0nkey said:
Read teh goddamn internets!
Wtf people??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This......

SuperFly03 said:
This......
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Absolutely this.

I read all post lol, but I need to do this question, Im always an Iphone user (tmobile network) I bought this G2, I keep reading that cant be root for now, I change it today because got blackout twices....
I dont know what the hell works the root thing.. Just an advices, should keep my G2? or wait for another android phone...
Still have 13 days for return

d0nkey said:
Read teh goddamn internets!
Wtf people??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
care to elaborate?

s30zgt said:
care to elaborate?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you? lol...

AndroidNoober said:
Can you? lol...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First off learn to type in a understandable format. your previous post just butchers the english language.
Second, i can see that this thread will go nowhere. Mod can you please close this thread?

s30zgt said:
First off learn to type in a understandable format. your previous post just butchers the english language.
Second, i can see that this thread will go nowhere. Mod can you please close this thread?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, I know my English is bad.. Is my second language.. I just trying to understand a little bit about this.. Spanish pages are from Mexico or Spain, harder to understand!!!
Like I said, sorry about that.

s30zgt said:
care to elaborate?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sure, here: Read the ****ing internet.

krayshunist said:
Sure, here: Read the ****ing internet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow thanks man lol. I don't need your asinine comments that bring nothing to this thread. Mods please close this thread.

Wow... ppl are such asses..i dont see anything in here that warrants the op to be cursed at...ridiculous
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

People are being jerks for sure, but OP, you should search better cuz your question has been answered in several threads. The short of it is NO. It is not a bug in the sense you are thinking. It is an intentional bug which tricks linux (android os) into thinking writes to the system files during root are being made when in actuality, the writes are only being written to cache. Once the cache is cleared during reboot the root access is erased because it wasn't actually written to the system in the first place. It's not a bug that needs to be fixed. It's a bug that was placed there to fool the system and make permanent root more...challenging.

Wiki
s30zgt said:
Cyanogen is saying its a bug. Tmo is saying its a feature. which one is correct?
If it is indeed a bug how would tmo go about fixing our phones? mass recall? sweep under the rug?
If its a feature, is it a precursor to what future phones will be?
Either outcome isnt very good for the consumer and may lead to lots of lost customers for tmo. Specially after tmo releasing a statement that its a feature of the phone.
I love this phone, the very first smartphone i ever had, and was really looking forward to hacking around with it but its hard to justify such a device that locks you out of such features. I hope cyanogen and all the other great devs work out a solution to this problem. I dont want to send it back.
looked for similar threads and couldnt find any.
info link:
h**p://phandroid.com/2010/10/11/cyanogen-calls-shenanigans-on-t-mobile-g2-root-fail-safe-mechanism/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is a very informational Wiki out. Check it out. It will get you up to date with all the work that has been done towards root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2

The important part of the question.. for me.. is whether the Z has the same bugFeature.
I see one random user saying that they flashed a G2 rom on a Desire Z and nothing more. Have I missed something? Kinda hard to say yay or nay based solely on that.

"Intentional Bug" ????
If it's intentional, it's NOT a bug.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

Thank you XfooYen for the info. I did a quick search before I posted(the posting page even searches similar post before you publish them) and found nothing similar. I will make sure to search more thoroughly next time.
I am familiar with the current situation with root, I just though that if a well known developer like cyanogen thinks that its a bug that maybe the readers of xda might want to discuss his possible ratonale for such a statement, then again that may not have been what he was trying to say and got it misrepresented by the media. Instead I saw nothing but irrelevent and pointless posts. For a second I thought this was gizmodo or engadget.
Thank you again. Its good to know that xda has readers who actually know what they are talking about and not just the average troll.

androidtoy09 said:
"Intentional Bug" ????
If it's intentional, it's NOT a bug.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, you're wrong.
RT @cyanogen: @garok89 yeah, and the statement tmobile made is technically wrong. theres nothing that restores the phone, its actually what i'd call a bug

greengoldmello said:
Wow... ppl are such asses..i dont see anything in here that warrants the op to be cursed at...ridiculous
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed. This is XDA. In the years I've been here, there was never this much flaming and douchery as there has been lately.

ATTENTION PLEASE regarding J.Anderson

hey guys. thought id fill you in on some info then ask for a favour
as you all know j.Anderson is a tremendous pain in the kneck. and has been banned for being one.
however another thread popped where you all speculated its was his second account. the thread was deleted but im here to tell you it was his account.
the reason im telling you this is because now i know he is not beyond making sock-puppets to make stupid posts
so the favour i want to ask is, if you see a post that seem familiar in wording or content. as well as reporting via the correct methods could you also let me know.
weve had this issue before with another user not long before 2.1 was due to be released and i dont want it to happen again
thanks in advance
PiLoT

Will do, chief!

I am absolutely convinced that he is mentally ill, possibly even schizophrenic. I think he really believes that he has some secret or unique knowledge. Some of his posts at talk.sonyericsson.com are even more puzzling.

yeah i agree his posts are nonsensical. i remembered the other user i had trouble with. Its was iHim.

Looks like the neighborhood watch is now in effect! We'll be on the lookout! That goober's posts stick out like a flasher in a trenchcoat at the playground and he's likely in the same state of mind.
Sent From My *Super Fly X10*
If I (or anyone for that matter!) help you, dont be afraid to press THANKS!

Sure, np. And get me a rifel to shoot him as well.
VIPER

Hey guys I found the keys...
I'll post one now and more later..
The first key is... G..G...GG....GEEE UNIIITTTT...
I found it in system/media/music/data
20000211000/5588809
(take that file and unlock the phone)
then open file manager and type this into system/app
*DURR..... AHHH DURRRR*
i'll post more soon once i get online
(just a heads up as to what to look for)

MrHassell said:
I'm saying this because I like the people and the vibe I get from XDA, it really means so much more to me than to ramble.
Please everyone be civil and sensible. Practical and friendly, helpful where possible and if you feel tempted..
Resist
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
Sent from my X10a using XDA App

+1
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

OmegaRED^ said:
Seriously dude.. is that your primary mission?
To try make us all look crazy?
You seem like a guy that has a clear different plan from actually helping someone or doing anything good for this forum and now you plan to change your target to me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No one made you look crazy... you accomplished that part on your own.
No need to worry though, I think its cute

I'm also on the watch (while the others are sleeping, I'm watching and viceversa).
So please PM me also if you find a similar erratic member.

Mr. Clown said:
I'm also on the watch (while the others are sleeping, I'm watching and viceversa).
So please PM me also if you find a similar erratic member.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Batman? LOL

Batman is john connor
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

Thread cleanup, can everyone stop messing with omegared with no reason. We are discussing about other thing in this thread.
Thanks,

Ok, I will take a look in future threads !

-PiLoT- said:
yeah i agree his posts are nonsensical. i remembered the other user i had trouble with. Its was iHim.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh yes, iHim, I remember... did he not return a few times with names like SEinside or something like that? Pain in the @ss...
Will look and report. I just hope you're not gonna be spammed with reports about threads they BELIEVE to be j.Anderson, while it's just a noob who's looking for help

qwer23 said:
Oh yes, iHim, I remember... did he not return a few times with names like SEinside or something like that? Pain in the @ss...
Will look and report. I just hope you're not gonna be spammed with reports about threads they BELIEVE to be j.Anderson, while it's just a noob who's looking for help
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
buddy have you read his posts? none of them have any resemblance to a noob looking for help, they're fairly unique & weird and not in a good way

riginal said:
buddy have you read his posts? none of them have any resemblance to a noob looking for help, they're fairly unique & weird and not in a good way
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol they remind me of the scribblings in the film "A Beautiful Mind"....
Except for the fact that his mind is not beautiful

riginal said:
buddy have you read his posts? none of them have any resemblance to a noob looking for help, they're fairly unique & weird and not in a good way
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol I know that, I read his posts. But he seems so helpless to me ^^ If you read his posts it's to me like 'did he even read the last answer or any post in this thread? Did he even use Android once?' I mean, what was that thing with this Office 2k certificates?! Seriously... That's what I meant what reminds me of a noob

aR_ChRiS said:
Batman? LOL
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes? Did someone flash the Bat-signal?
Windst said:
Batman is john connor
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. Batman is Bruce Wayne.

[whatsapp]oneplus group.

Hi!
I created a whatsapp group to discuss with the community of xda of Roms, Kernels, Issues
or anything about oneplus one.
If you are interested leave your number as a comment.

WTF man, are you serious?!

Lol

Is my phonenumber sufficient or do you need my bank account, too?
No man to be honest... you can discuss everything here on the forum... that is the meaning of a forum :angel:

Pm sent for my friend

Yeah let me give my cell number to a complete stranger halfway across the world so you can spam me to death.....

Guys if you want to join that group,sinply trust that guy...
I'm in a G3 whatsapp group and everything is going well,also it's a great thing to know new people from all the world...

Italians don't care about their privacy.
I'm italian too, but i don't give my number to the whole XDA/internet

Someone's obviously bored... :silly:

Ignoring the privacy issues, I can't imagine anything more annoying than constant whatsapp notifications from this group haha!
Powered by Bacon

I'm up for it.
cesanaboia said:
Hi!
I created a whatsapp group to discuss with the community of xda of Roms, Kernels, Issues
or anything about oneplus one.
If you are interested leave your number as a comment.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How do i add you or how do you want to do this. Always willing to exchange ideas and tips.

It Wud B Gr8....
cesanaboia said:
Hi!
I created a whatsapp group to discuss with the community of xda of Roms, Kernels, Issues
or anything about oneplus one.
If you are interested leave your number as a comment.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Add me

Andro Freak said:
Add me xxxxx :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dude, posting your number publicly like that really isn't a very smart thing to do, you might wanna remove it and send it to him in a PM.
Transmitted via Bacon

timmaaa said:
Dude, posting your number publicly like that really isn't a very smart thing to do, you might wanna remove it and send it to him in a PM.
Transmitted via Bacon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes dude u r ri8 but no need to worry its not a fb account

Please add me +506851904..

Just use kik instead people... No need to give out any personal information besides your username, you could make one specifically for this purpose. You can easily block people and mute chats if you dont want to be constantly spammed by people in it.

isaacv19 said:
Please add me +50685190484
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let me send you some escorts and pizzas for a little party. Paid by you ofc.....

? ? ? sorry

Yay! Add me pls nopenopenopenope

..

Guys what happen g00h roms?

Guys all the g00h threads are disabled why? What happen to him?

Nope
As i can tell threads are there. Are you sure about that?
For example
forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-t2891226

lmix said:
As i can tell threads are there. Are you sure about that?
For example
forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/development/rom-t2891226
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep all threads are locked and his account was disabled

strange
1Ishara said:
Yep all threads are locked and his account was disabled
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
wow you are right.. Would like to know also...

lmix said:
wow you are right.. Would like to know also...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1Ishara said:
Yep all threads are locked and his account was disabled
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Two developers are gone because xda management get rid of them for not publicised reasons.
The reason is not so important as the fact they good work is out of this forum.
Even they stopped here you can find they work which is continue out of this place.

Gizmundo said:
Two developers are gone because xda management get rid of them for not publicised reasons.
The reason is not so important as the fact they good work is out of this forum.
Even they stopped here you can find they work which is continue out of this place.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dunno who is second dev but g00h really had some impresive work which was very good and unique to my opinion , and whatever the reason is it is maybe kinda harsh decision to just block someone just like that who spent a lot of time making this forum even more popular.. Sad but true..
Btw thnx for clearing that up

lmix said:
Dunno who is second dev but g00h really had some impresive work which was very good and unique to my opinion , and whatever the reason is it is maybe kinda harsh decision to just block someone just like that who spent a lot of time making this forum even more popular.. Sad but true..
Btw thnx for clearing that up
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes accepted.. I think now xda froget about the community.... We are coming here because of the people not because of the community name.. Cyanogenmod become inc.. Any plan xda?

Gentlemen, do not keep your claims to XDA dev g00h only because he has left us all assuming your own forum for selected people.

waldemarz said:
Gentlemen, do not keep your claims to XDA dev g00h only because he has left us all assuming your own forum for selected people.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you a link to the forum please?

It would be really sad if G00h is really gone. Does g00h has a social media account or something with maybe some more background information?

I will not get into why he was banned as it is no ones concern but the mod teams and the banned user. All I will say is that he earned it. And for those that think it was very unique, it really wasnt.
You have to remember this is a developer forum. Not a rom site. Not a place to come and make your phone cool.
Nuff said.

Sigferwmce between G975F and G975F/DS

Hi anyone know the difference ? I have the F version and wonder what's the actual difference between the two. Thanks

DS= Dual Sim

What about Sigferwmce and Difference.. Damn some lazy typing there
Sent from my [device_name] using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Thank you for the answer however I have only the F version but it's also dual sim

Anyone else?

jadaress1 said:
What about Sigferwmce and Difference.. Damn some lazy typing
I didn't find a way to edit that, but I was not really looking hard.. However, You just proved to yourself how useless a person like you can be. Congrats on answer which doesn't provide anything good! Good luck with this approach to flaws... you must have lots of friends... ...
And no... Facebook friends are not real friend... you know that right:laugh:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

MoccaBullFlower said:
jadaress1 said:
What about Sigferwmce and Difference.. Damn some lazy typing
I didn't find a way to edit that, but I was not really looking hard.. However, You just proved to yourself how useless a person like you can be. Congrats on answer which doesn't provide anything good! Good luck with this approach to flaws... you must have lots of friends... ...
And no... Facebook friends are not real friend... you know that right:laugh:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Learn how to edit a threads (title) name before peronally
anatgonising and responding to (for me) a valid argument by a user.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

gee2012 said:
MoccaBullFlower said:
Learn how to edit a threads (title) name before peronally
anatgonising and responding to (for me) a valid argument by a user.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks. I actually laughed to he's reply, the fact he didn't bother to even look, looks to me like lazy typing.
It wasn't like you missed one letter or even two, the whole word was wrong. I'm not on Facebook. The fact that what I said bothered you so much that you wrote quite a lengthy response about me was quite telling and immature.
Sent from my [device_name] using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

jadaress1 said:
gee2012 said:
Thanks. I actually laughed to he's reply, the fact he didn't bother to even look, looks to me like lazy typing.
It wasn't like you missed one letter or even two, the whole word was wrong. I'm not on Facebook. The fact that what I said bothered you so much that you wrote quite a lengthy response about me was quite telling and immature.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You have some nerves to call someone immature... so.. finally you grown and mature being... how about you actually answered the real question? instead of yapping nonsense finally.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

gee2012 said:
MoccaBullFlower said:
Learn how to edit a threads (title) name before peronally
anatgonising and responding to (for me) a valid argument by a user.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
While I understand anyone can ask politely to correct misspelling. Its utter nonsense to response without actually answering the question.
And as far as I can see, there is one sensible human being who actually answered. Nice and simple none of this .... nonsense to put it.
Just as u did not.. I'm not interested to hear your opinions or anybody else in matters of others than asked . I would like to hear the answer for the question. If you don't have it why don't you just go elsewhere where you may actually help others...
I do not have an intend or interest to continue this discussion. Thx
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Go and fix the title and maybe you'll get more answers... Bye
Sent from my [device_name] using XDA-Developers Legacy app