[Q] Root Block: Intentional or Bug? - G2 and Desire Z General

Cyanogen is saying its a bug. Tmo is saying its a feature. which one is correct?
If it is indeed a bug how would tmo go about fixing our phones? mass recall? sweep under the rug?
If its a feature, is it a precursor to what future phones will be?
Either outcome isnt very good for the consumer and may lead to lots of lost customers for tmo. Specially after tmo releasing a statement that its a feature of the phone.
I love this phone, the very first smartphone i ever had, and was really looking forward to hacking around with it but its hard to justify such a device that locks you out of such features. I hope cyanogen and all the other great devs work out a solution to this problem. I dont want to send it back.
looked for similar threads and couldnt find any.
info link:
h**p://phandroid.com/2010/10/11/cyanogen-calls-shenanigans-on-t-mobile-g2-root-fail-safe-mechanism/

Read teh goddamn internets!
Wtf people??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!

d0nkey said:
Read teh goddamn internets!
Wtf people??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!
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This......

SuperFly03 said:
This......
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Absolutely this.

I read all post lol, but I need to do this question, Im always an Iphone user (tmobile network) I bought this G2, I keep reading that cant be root for now, I change it today because got blackout twices....
I dont know what the hell works the root thing.. Just an advices, should keep my G2? or wait for another android phone...
Still have 13 days for return

d0nkey said:
Read teh goddamn internets!
Wtf people??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!
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care to elaborate?

s30zgt said:
care to elaborate?
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Can you? lol...

AndroidNoober said:
Can you? lol...
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First off learn to type in a understandable format. your previous post just butchers the english language.
Second, i can see that this thread will go nowhere. Mod can you please close this thread?

s30zgt said:
First off learn to type in a understandable format. your previous post just butchers the english language.
Second, i can see that this thread will go nowhere. Mod can you please close this thread?
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Sorry, I know my English is bad.. Is my second language.. I just trying to understand a little bit about this.. Spanish pages are from Mexico or Spain, harder to understand!!!
Like I said, sorry about that.

s30zgt said:
care to elaborate?
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Sure, here: Read the ****ing internet.

krayshunist said:
Sure, here: Read the ****ing internet.
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Wow thanks man lol. I don't need your asinine comments that bring nothing to this thread. Mods please close this thread.

Wow... ppl are such asses..i dont see anything in here that warrants the op to be cursed at...ridiculous
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

People are being jerks for sure, but OP, you should search better cuz your question has been answered in several threads. The short of it is NO. It is not a bug in the sense you are thinking. It is an intentional bug which tricks linux (android os) into thinking writes to the system files during root are being made when in actuality, the writes are only being written to cache. Once the cache is cleared during reboot the root access is erased because it wasn't actually written to the system in the first place. It's not a bug that needs to be fixed. It's a bug that was placed there to fool the system and make permanent root more...challenging.

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s30zgt said:
Cyanogen is saying its a bug. Tmo is saying its a feature. which one is correct?
If it is indeed a bug how would tmo go about fixing our phones? mass recall? sweep under the rug?
If its a feature, is it a precursor to what future phones will be?
Either outcome isnt very good for the consumer and may lead to lots of lost customers for tmo. Specially after tmo releasing a statement that its a feature of the phone.
I love this phone, the very first smartphone i ever had, and was really looking forward to hacking around with it but its hard to justify such a device that locks you out of such features. I hope cyanogen and all the other great devs work out a solution to this problem. I dont want to send it back.
looked for similar threads and couldnt find any.
info link:
h**p://phandroid.com/2010/10/11/cyanogen-calls-shenanigans-on-t-mobile-g2-root-fail-safe-mechanism/
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There is a very informational Wiki out. Check it out. It will get you up to date with all the work that has been done towards root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2

The important part of the question.. for me.. is whether the Z has the same bugFeature.
I see one random user saying that they flashed a G2 rom on a Desire Z and nothing more. Have I missed something? Kinda hard to say yay or nay based solely on that.

"Intentional Bug" ????
If it's intentional, it's NOT a bug.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

Thank you XfooYen for the info. I did a quick search before I posted(the posting page even searches similar post before you publish them) and found nothing similar. I will make sure to search more thoroughly next time.
I am familiar with the current situation with root, I just though that if a well known developer like cyanogen thinks that its a bug that maybe the readers of xda might want to discuss his possible ratonale for such a statement, then again that may not have been what he was trying to say and got it misrepresented by the media. Instead I saw nothing but irrelevent and pointless posts. For a second I thought this was gizmodo or engadget.
Thank you again. Its good to know that xda has readers who actually know what they are talking about and not just the average troll.

androidtoy09 said:
"Intentional Bug" ????
If it's intentional, it's NOT a bug.
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Actually, you're wrong.
RT @cyanogen: @garok89 yeah, and the statement tmobile made is technically wrong. theres nothing that restores the phone, its actually what i'd call a bug

greengoldmello said:
Wow... ppl are such asses..i dont see anything in here that warrants the op to be cursed at...ridiculous
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Agreed. This is XDA. In the years I've been here, there was never this much flaming and douchery as there has been lately.

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[REQUEST] Froyo ROM with Sense?

I know it's possible now since there are Desire and Incredible ROMs running Sense on Froyo, so I'd be very happy if a developer could figure out how to port one of those to the Eris. Obviously they're different screen resolutions (and the Desire is GSM instead of CDMA), but it must be possible. Thank you in advance!
Reportedddd
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Reportedddd
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Hah, for what? It's your 2nd post and your already trolling? The man is asking something pretty simple, if someone would be willing to do a port on an EXISTING rom or if anyone is currently working on one...no need to report.
Been around long enough to know no one likes it when people post these types of things. You think some dev hasn't already thought of this? You think his question is going to motivate them? It just clogs up the page.
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Been around long enough to know no one likes it when people post these types of things. You think some dev hasn't already thought of this? You think his question is going to motivate them? It just clogs up the page.
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If a dev has thought about it or has been messing with it, nobody knows about it yet(for the eris at least). Maybe someone who has worked on that type of thing (porting) or others might be interested.
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Anyway, here's the link to 2.2 sense for the Incredible if anyone was interested in checking it out for a possible port.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737400
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Been around long enough to know no one likes it when people post these types of things. You think some dev hasn't already thought of this? You think his question is going to motivate them? It just clogs up the page.
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lol...somehow I doubt a joining date of "July 2010" with 3 posts constitutes being "around long enough."
I don't know about everyone else, but I have no problem when someone posts a very benign request. There's nothing wrong with what thenestor did. He made a legit post throwing an idea out there with the hope that the devs would comment on the possibility of doing it.
What I do have a problem with is a new punk user coming in and throwing weight around that he doesn't have. The only problem with this thread is that you posted on it.
wait? been around long enough to see it? the guy is a senior member? and hes asking a simple question. nobodys gonna learn unless you ask? maybe you know all and want to troll on everyone but damn give the man a chance
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lol...somehow I doubt a joining date of "July 2010" with 3 posts constitutes being "around long enough."
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hatchna said:
I don't know about everyone else, but I have no problem when someone posts a very benign request. There's nothing wrong with what thenestor did. He made a legit post throwing an idea out there with the hope that the devs would comment on the possibility of doing it.
What I do have a problem with is a new punk user coming in and throwing weight around that he doesn't have. The only problem with this thread is that you posted on it.
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Thanks guys. So back on topic, what other 2.2 sense roms are out now (desire/incredible)?
Zer0_Cool said:
Thanks guys. So back on topic, what other 2.2 sense roms are out now (desire/incredible)?
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umm... that's a LEAKED rom... I believe theres a difference between LEAKED & ROOTED roms..
Once you go onto a leaked rom, you lose root privileges..which is NOT what you want...
Then again, he might just mean that its leaked to everyone else, thereby not really a leak..
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umm... that's a LEAKED rom... I believe theres a difference between LEAKED & ROOTED roms..
Once you go onto a leaked rom, you lose root privileges..which is NOT what you want...
Then again, he might just mean that its leaked to everyone else, thereby not really a leak..
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please explain? im running a cyanogen Tazz froyo rom and i still have root privileges? is it gonna change if you port it from another devices?
From what I gathered, it's a leaked OTA ROM that has been modified with the superuser apk and such. So it should still allow for root access.
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The man is asking something pretty simple, if someone would be willing to do a port on an EXISTING rom or if anyone is currently working on one...
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But when "iloveandroid" asked about someone making a ROM, he/she got jumped all over for it. How's this different ? No offense thenestor... Yeah, "iloveandroid" was annoying, but sorry, the rules don't apply to some and not others.
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But when "iloveandroid" asked about someone making a ROM, he/she got jumped all over for it. How's this different ? No offense thenestor... Yeah, "iloveandroid" was annoying, but sorry, the rules don't apply to some and not others.
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Depends slightly on what's being requested really. Requesting someone make a Sense 2.2 ROM is different from requesting that someone make a Sense 2.2 ROM with X Y and Z added and A B and C removed.
He's not requesting a customized ROM, just asking if someone was doing a Sense 2.2 ROM.
Marisa said:
Depends slightly on what's being requested really. Requesting someone make a Sense 2.2 ROM is different from requesting that someone make a Sense 2.2 ROM with X Y and Z added and A B and C removed.
He's not requesting a customized ROM, just asking if someone was doing a Sense 2.2 ROM.
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hes asking developers to build a specific rom, regaurdless this is not the place to ask for a rom to be made if you have a request, speak with a devloper in his own thread on a private note, and ask there.
DO NOT CREATE A THREAD TO ASK IF/FOR A ROM TO BE BUILT IN THE DEVELOPER SECTION.
THREAD REPORTED
Reported? Whats this about? Are we back in elementary school? Are you guys hall monitors? What kind of punkas* b*&ch reports anyone these days?
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Reported? Whats this about? Are we back in elementary school? Are you guys hall monitors? What kind of punkas* b*&ch reports anyone these days?
Sent from my FroyoEris using XDA App
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I agree. That's why you can add people like Sjflowerhorn and DroidKevlar to your ignore list. That way you don't have to read their stuff.
lotus22 said:
I agree. That's why you can add people like Sjflowerhorn and DroidKevlar to your ignore list. That way you don't have to read their stuff.
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You idiot. Those two are solid gold around here...
This is worse then my high school, honestly guys. If you have a problem with a question you can either:
A) Skip over it and let it float to the bottom
B) Say do it yourself
C) Try and say something worthwhile
To be the only one answering to answer the OP question in 18 posts is very sad.
OP, It is said that Framework is working on it, but as of right now I think he is the only one. Andrizoid was, but we all know what happened to him.
Grow up guys. In all seriousness, annoyances don't have to ruin our day.
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You idiot. Those two are solid gold around here...
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thank you sir but we really should watch the name calling
and another note if you read any post ive made they are all geared towards A:learning B:helping others learn C:to have a good time
youl see i never created a thread . . . . EVER because i - A either use google myself B ask a developer in his thread or C-DEAL WITH IT UNTIL ITS FIXED OR RELEASED.
i enjoy learning and helping others learn but there becomes a point when people are asking to be spoon fed and i disagree with that strongly. If you feel that you need a place to be spoon fed. . . . Phandroid.com or androidforums.com seem to be very open minded towards that and helping code thief's prosper. i have no issues with either of said forums however "me personally" i chose XDA because its a reputable place to LEARN,
I appoligize to the XDA members who have to read this knowing D*** well this isn't necessary. Please read and obey the posting rules. Im not even a mod or any kind of status around here. If i were things would be a lot tighter around here.TRUST AND BELIEVE THAT.

Google announcing Gingerbread soon?

Here's a tweet from @Googlemobile:
Our cafes are baking something sweet http://twitpic.com/3682u2 (4 minutes ago via web)
I know i won't be able to install the ota since i'm rooted, but i'm excited nonetheless!
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Here's a tweet from @Googlemobile:
Our cafes are baking something sweet http://twitpic.com/3682u2 (4 minutes ago via web)
I know i won't be able to install the ota since i'm rooted, but i'm excited nonetheless!
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Did this honestly need another thread?
Oh ****! Not another thread about Gingerbread!!!
This is getting so old...
Oh no, not another complaint about another thread!
Relax, it's not like i'm killing trees or taking up space by posting this. I didn't have time to go through the entire forum just to make sure i didn't hurt your feelings. A popup appeared showing possible similar threads, none of them matched, so i submitted it. No need to cry about it.
Thanks.
Mo_Nexus said:
Oh no, not another complaint about another thread!
Relax, it's not like i'm killing trees or taking up space by posting this. I didn't have time to go through the entire forum just to make sure i didn't hurt your feelings. A popup appeared showing possible similar threads, none of them matched, so i submitted it. No need to cry about it.
Thanks.
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There are about 5 GB threads on the first page. Maybe you should start a few more because it will do a lot of good for all of us.
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There are about 5 GB threads on the first page. Maybe you should start a few more because it will do a lot of good for all of us.
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Sure no prob!
To all the complainers, why are you clicking on the threads then?
Mo_Nexus, thanks for the info.
OP, thank you for posting the information. While I wouldn't have created a new thread
myself it still is new news nonetheless so I appreciate it.
Hopefully the mods either lock the excess threads or merge them to de-clutter the forum.
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To all the complainers, why are you clicking on the threads then?
Mo_Nexus, thanks for the info.
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No problem Verboten, and thank you for the comment, i appreciate it.
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To all the complainers, why are you clicking on the threads then?
Mo_Nexus, thanks for the info.
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Because we can't tell from the thread titles exactly what's in the post.
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Because we can't tell from the thread titles exactly what's in the post.
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I can understand if the thread title was Google announcing Gingerbread!!!
But it's "Google announcing Gingerbread soon?"
With most thread titles, no one can tell exactly whats in the posts.
Just wait for the thread title "Gingerbread is here!!" and click no others than. Simple.
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OP, thank you for posting the information. While I wouldn't have created a new thread
myself it still is new news nonetheless so I appreciate it.
Hopefully the mods either lock the excess threads or merge them to de-clutter the forum.
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No problem, and i agree, all existing threads should consolidated or something. Hopefully there'll be no need for that if Google stops teasing us & releases 2.3 already.
Cool dude, thanks for the info and welcome this a public forum and everyone share his knowledge, always here like this, when someone post anything even said hi u will see many of the guys here saying sucks comment. THIS IS JUST HOW IT IS. keep going and when u have something to post don't think a lot, JUST POST, if i want to read i will read if i don't i will leave u just thanks
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No problem, and i agree, all existing threads should consolidated or something. Hopefully there'll be no need for that if Google stops teasing us & releases 2.3 already.
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Google is not teasing us, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PATIENCE, and the thing is when Google release the gingerbread we will start complain THIS ALSO JUST HOW IT IS
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Google is not teasing us
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actually they are teasing with us. they just dont bother their sorry ass to give a proper release date. they just dont even care about to give out an spesifications about the new system. nothing. just some fake news also new screenshots could be fake too. we simply dont know anything about new update. 4 example is the new crappy youtube app staying? what about horrible keyboard?
it just could be stupid update without any new features. also it could be something revolutionary like eclair. but we already knew them BEFORE the eclair released. were just waiting for google's jokes if whole gingerbread is just about some stupid skin and stuff.
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actually they are teasing with us. they just dont bother their sorry ass to give a proper release date. they just dont even care about to give out an spesifications about the new system. nothing. just some fake news also new screenshots could be fake too. we simply dont know anything about new update. 4 example is the new crappy youtube app staying? what about horrible keyboard?
it just could be stupid update without any new features. also it could be something revolutionary like eclair. but we already knew them BEFORE the eclair released. were just waiting for google's jokes if whole gingerbread is just about some stupid skin and stuff.
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Please tell me english isn't your native language, I'll totally understand then. Anyhow Google have 0 commitment to providing us with pre-release info. It's *UNRELEASED* therefore they could deny the existence of GB itself and are completely within their right to do so. These little bits of info like not so secretive tweets are just a bit of fun, surely I'm not the only one who likes the suspense/surprise regarding the lack of GB info?

ATTENTION PLEASE regarding J.Anderson

hey guys. thought id fill you in on some info then ask for a favour
as you all know j.Anderson is a tremendous pain in the kneck. and has been banned for being one.
however another thread popped where you all speculated its was his second account. the thread was deleted but im here to tell you it was his account.
the reason im telling you this is because now i know he is not beyond making sock-puppets to make stupid posts
so the favour i want to ask is, if you see a post that seem familiar in wording or content. as well as reporting via the correct methods could you also let me know.
weve had this issue before with another user not long before 2.1 was due to be released and i dont want it to happen again
thanks in advance
PiLoT
Will do, chief!
I am absolutely convinced that he is mentally ill, possibly even schizophrenic. I think he really believes that he has some secret or unique knowledge. Some of his posts at talk.sonyericsson.com are even more puzzling.
yeah i agree his posts are nonsensical. i remembered the other user i had trouble with. Its was iHim.
Looks like the neighborhood watch is now in effect! We'll be on the lookout! That goober's posts stick out like a flasher in a trenchcoat at the playground and he's likely in the same state of mind.
Sent From My *Super Fly X10*
If I (or anyone for that matter!) help you, dont be afraid to press THANKS!
Sure, np. And get me a rifel to shoot him as well.
VIPER
Hey guys I found the keys...
I'll post one now and more later..
The first key is... G..G...GG....GEEE UNIIITTTT...
I found it in system/media/music/data
20000211000/5588809
(take that file and unlock the phone)
then open file manager and type this into system/app
*DURR..... AHHH DURRRR*
i'll post more soon once i get online
(just a heads up as to what to look for)
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I'm saying this because I like the people and the vibe I get from XDA, it really means so much more to me than to ramble.
Please everyone be civil and sensible. Practical and friendly, helpful where possible and if you feel tempted..
Resist
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OmegaRED^ said:
Seriously dude.. is that your primary mission?
To try make us all look crazy?
You seem like a guy that has a clear different plan from actually helping someone or doing anything good for this forum and now you plan to change your target to me.
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No one made you look crazy... you accomplished that part on your own.
No need to worry though, I think its cute
I'm also on the watch (while the others are sleeping, I'm watching and viceversa).
So please PM me also if you find a similar erratic member.
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I'm also on the watch (while the others are sleeping, I'm watching and viceversa).
So please PM me also if you find a similar erratic member.
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Batman? LOL
Batman is john connor
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Thread cleanup, can everyone stop messing with omegared with no reason. We are discussing about other thing in this thread.
Thanks,
Ok, I will take a look in future threads !
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yeah i agree his posts are nonsensical. i remembered the other user i had trouble with. Its was iHim.
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Oh yes, iHim, I remember... did he not return a few times with names like SEinside or something like that? Pain in the @ss...
Will look and report. I just hope you're not gonna be spammed with reports about threads they BELIEVE to be j.Anderson, while it's just a noob who's looking for help
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Oh yes, iHim, I remember... did he not return a few times with names like SEinside or something like that? Pain in the @ss...
Will look and report. I just hope you're not gonna be spammed with reports about threads they BELIEVE to be j.Anderson, while it's just a noob who's looking for help
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buddy have you read his posts? none of them have any resemblance to a noob looking for help, they're fairly unique & weird and not in a good way
riginal said:
buddy have you read his posts? none of them have any resemblance to a noob looking for help, they're fairly unique & weird and not in a good way
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lol they remind me of the scribblings in the film "A Beautiful Mind"....
Except for the fact that his mind is not beautiful
riginal said:
buddy have you read his posts? none of them have any resemblance to a noob looking for help, they're fairly unique & weird and not in a good way
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lol I know that, I read his posts. But he seems so helpless to me ^^ If you read his posts it's to me like 'did he even read the last answer or any post in this thread? Did he even use Android once?' I mean, what was that thing with this Office 2k certificates?! Seriously... That's what I meant what reminds me of a noob
aR_ChRiS said:
Batman? LOL
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Yes? Did someone flash the Bat-signal?
Windst said:
Batman is john connor
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No. Batman is Bruce Wayne.

Evil's new Fusion Sense 3.0

Didn't want to clutter up Evil's ROM thread with general discussion, but what do people think of it so far?? I know it's a new release, so I'm sure there's stuff that's not working, but is it more or less functional? Is there anything so off that you couldn't use it as a daily?
Lol, I know I know..."just flash it yourself" - I'm planning on it! I just can't do it until later after work, and I'm excited so I just want to hear people's thought on it...in the world of rom-flashing, this is epic!!
sunsean said:
Didn't want to clutter up Evil's ROM thread with general discussion, but what do people think of it so far?? I know it's a new release, so I'm sure there's stuff that's not working, but is it more or less functional? Is there anything so off that you couldn't use it as a daily?
Lol, I know I know..."just flash it yourself" - I'm planning on it! I just can't do it until later after work, and I'm excited so I just want to hear people's thought on it...in the world of rom-flashing, this is epic!!
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Actually this really does belong in that thread. People usually read the thread to see how others are feeling about it.
I've never had a problem flashing any ROM before but I can't seem to get this one to work.
neidlinger said:
Actually this really does belong in that thread. People usually read the thread to see how others are feeling about it.
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I see your point. I guess seeing as how I hadn't flashed it yet and was just asking a "general" question, not pertaining to any technical aspect of the rom, I didn't want to throw up a vague unhelpful post in the thread itself.
Don't know if you were just making a generalization or if it was a passive way of saying "you should read the thread" lol - but I did read the thread, and I guess I was asking more about the overall experience of it rather than "what's not working".
It's all good, I'll just continue to keep an eye on the rom's thread to gauge people's thoughts. Lol, it's crazy what android has done to me - it's turned me into a schoolgirl at a Bieber concert.
LegendaryLike said:
I've never had a problem flashing any ROM before but I can't seem to get this one to work.
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Hmm, yeah I see that several users on the thread have been having trouble with it. Are you getting the black screen thing? Seems like the problem might be related to recovery...
sunsean said:
Hmm, yeah I see that several users on the thread have been having trouble with it. Are you getting the black screen thing? Seems like the problem might be related to recovery...
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Yes, that is the problem I am getting.
LegendaryLike said:
Yes, that is the problem I am getting.
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Hmm, wish I could offer some advice but like I said won't be able to flash it myself until later tonight. I'd keep an eye on the rom's thread, since several people are having the same problem, I'm sure someone will post a fix or point out the problem sooner or later.
Lol, the more this thread continues, the sillier I feel for making it. Most of the posts are just saying to check the rom's thread itself (including my own).
sunsean said:
Don't know if you were just making a generalization or if it was a passive way of saying "you should read the thread" lol - but I did read the thread, and I guess I was asking more about the overall experience of it rather than "what's not working".
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No No not in the least. I'm not being a about it. Just making a general statement. Sometimes a post such as the one you made can change the direction of a thread. giving it a more "feedback geared" feel to it.
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No No not in the least. I'm not being a about it. Just making a general statement. Sometimes a post such as the one you made can change the direction of a thread. giving it a more "feedback geared" feel to it.
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Lol totally, no harm done You made a very valid point!
sunsean said:
Hmm, wish I could offer some advice but like I said won't be able to flash it myself until later tonight. I'd keep an eye on the rom's thread, since several people are having the same problem, I'm sure someone will post a fix or point out the problem sooner or later.
Lol, the more this thread continues, the sillier I feel for making it. Most of the posts are just saying to check the rom's thread itself (including my own).
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Download latest rom manager from market then flash clockwork mod latest recovery. I did that and it booted up perfectly for me
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[Q] C6602 vs C6603

Hello all,
Deciding to choose between the C6602 or C6603. I am in the US and it would be on Tmobile. Do both support HSPA+? I've also read that the ZL baseband can be flashed for LTE support in CA, has anyone tested in the US for AT&T or Tmobile? From what I understand, the ZL baseband supports those bands.
I would like to be able to choose between LTE and HSPA+
What is the best choice for my situation. These bands confuse me so I apologize, I did my research and this is my last resort to get a clear answer.
Cheers.
dsmero said:
Hello all,
Deciding to choose between the C6602 or C6603. I am in the US and it would be on Tmobile. Do both support HSPA+? I've also read that the ZL baseband can be flashed for LTE support in CA, has anyone tested in the US for AT&T or Tmobile? From what I understand, the ZL baseband supports those bands.
I would like to be able to choose between LTE and HSPA+
What is the best choice for my situation. These bands confuse me so I apologize, I did my research and this is my last resort to get a clear answer.
Cheers.
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why cant you ask in the right section? seeing how much phone you have and how long you been a member...
G1_enthusiast said:
why cant you ask in the right section? seeing how much phone you have and how long you been a member...
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You would think it's been asked before, lets have a look - C6602 vs C6603, and so it has, 3rd link down.
Wow thanks for the replies. These are so helpful.
dsmero said:
These are so helpful.
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Starting new threads in the wrong section about a subject that has a few threads already that I've shown can be found by Googling your own thread title is quite annoying to regular members who come here everyday.
XperienceD said:
Starting new threads in the wrong section about a subject that has a few threads already that I've shown can be found by Googling your own thread title is quite annoying to regular members who come here everyday.
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That doesn't give you the right to talk down to someone or give condescending responses. I posted in the wrong section, that has happened before and will happen again by others.
And I feel like you are saying because I don't "come here everyday" or post all the time is insulting. This is why I don't post, because they're is always someone ready to criticize at the blink of an eye.
I felt like my question was worth asking. I looked up and searched but my question differs slightly. I am in the US and was wondering if anyone else tried LTE.
dsmero said:
I felt like my question was worth asking. I looked up and searched but my question differs slightly. I am in the US and was wondering if anyone else tried LTE.
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Click the third link I mentioned, reread the rules, and watch the xda noob video.
XperienceD said:
Click the third link I mentioned, reread the rules, and watch the xda noob video.
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Sorry I am not a social degenerate on here 24/7 with 2000+ posts. This is an internet forum, not a communist country lol
Asking for a mod. Maybe if this is moved to QA it will stop the whining.
dsmero said:
Asking for a mod. Maybe if this is moved to QA it will stop the whining.
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So have you clicked the third link yet or. EDIT: I see you found it.
XperienceD said:
So have you clicked the third link yet or.
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lmao, yeah I have, it brought me to a site about you being a degenerate nerd outside the internet lol
whatever, this isnt worth my time.
dsmero said:
lmao, yeah I have, it brought me to a site about you being a degenerate nerd outside the internet lol
whatever, this isnt worth my time.
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I see the maturity of certain members here is on the decrease.
XperienceD said:
I see the maturity of certain members here is on the decrease.
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you started it with your smart remarks, now you can't take it. i'm supposed to roll over and let you talk down to me i guess.
dsmero said:
That doesn't give you the right to talk down to someone or give condescending responses. I posted in the wrong section, that has happened before and will happen again by others.
And I feel like you are saying because I don't "come here everyday" or post all the time is insulting. This is why I don't post, because they're is always someone ready to criticize at the blink of an eye.
I felt like my question was worth asking. I looked up and searched but my question differs slightly. I am in the US and was wondering if anyone else tried LTE.
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I'll answer any questions but when your too lazy to write in the right section or too lazy to look, thats when I become an asshole
G1_enthusiast said:
I'll answer any questions but when your too lazy to write in the right section or too lazy to look, thats when I become an asshole
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As i've stated before, it was mistakenly posted in the wrong section. As for looking, I've also stated that, there isn't a thread with my exact question, there are some close but not what I am looking for. Thats fine, you can be an internet tough guy on a forum, that will get you far in life.
I've contacted a moderator.
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now you can't take it.
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You can't, hence your crying about it.
dsmero said:
As i've stated before, it was mistakenly posted in the wrong section. As for looking, I've also stated that, there isn't a thread with my exact question, there are some close but not what I am looking for. Thats fine, you can be an internet tough guy on a forum, that will get you far in life.
I've contacted a moderator.
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....who care? you think i care if my account got blocked? i'll just make another one, ban my IP? i'll just refresh it big deal... its not like i'm getting paid for typing on forum genius.
OP - You should have searched & posted in the correct section. I'm not going to lecture you on this, we all have better things to do with our time.
The Rest - Seriously? What is your problem? Why can't you all just get on? If you have nothing constructive to say, don't post. This is the internet, if you're getting mad at someone you don't even know posting in the wrong place you take things way too seriously.
@G1_enthusiast - You think that XDA being a developers forum we don't have ways to know about duplicate accounts? Did you know that most browsers can be queried for a unique installation ID? IP's are an ancient and ineffective way to track users.
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