Android Wear support for external Bluetooth GPS receiver? - Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can anyone confirm or deny if Android wear can connect to an external Bluetooth GPS receiver and get location from it? On Android it requires mock locations enabled, but I can't find anyone talking about this ability on Android Wear.
Few Android wear devices have GPS and it is a battery killer, so I would prefer to use an external Bluetooth GPS receiver if I were to get an Android Wear device.

I can find my old bluetooth gps and test it. I really doubt it supports external GPS units.

Any luck trying this out?

I tried. Doesn't work (yet?). The BT stack seems not set up to handle serial port profiles which is a requirement for external GPS decoders.

Thanks for trying this out. Much appreciated!

l_deadeye_l said:
Thanks for trying this out. Much appreciated!
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Sorry I completely forgot about this. I couldn't make it work. I don't think watch google maps even designed to work with bluetooth GPS modules. Does it even support it on units that have GPS module installed? I think it takes everything from phone.

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Archos + GPS (external)

hi there..
i would like to discuss about having archos as navigator or GPS..
im using A70IT,so it does no has internal gps receiver..
from theory, we can achieve it by using bluetooth gps receiver and gps software..
anyone had tried this??
can you tell what brand of bluetooth gps receiver that you use..
plus with the gps software..
(im still experimenting..,any findings will be updated here)
one of working gps on archos..
sorry for my bad english..
Tested bluetooth GPS receiver:
BT-359S (GlobalSat)
BT-359 (Globalsat)
TomTom MK-II
Hama bluetooth gps receiver
iBlutooth gps receiver
Jentro BT-gps-8
BTGP-38KM/65C
phone:-
Nexus One
Nokia N79
Htc Droid Eris
Tested Navigation software
iGO
NDrive
Oruxmaps
Google maps navigation
Yandex.Maps -Detailed maps of cities in Russia
Copilot
NavDroyd
Sygic Aura
you might need to install software like "bluetooth gps provider" or "Bluetooth GPS" on archos and something like "Bluetooth GPS Output" on your gps receiver (at market) or "GpsGate" for windows mobile (phone only).
I shared my Nexus Ones gps via bluetooth to my A43, it was very simple and worked with any program I used.
I did a search and had found some usb bluetooth receivers around $50-60, probably don't need anything special to get the job done.
daveid said:
I shared my Nexus Ones gps via bluetooth to my A43, it was very simple and worked with any program I used.
I did a search and had found some usb bluetooth receivers around $50-60, probably don't need anything special to get the job done.
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owh..nice job..what gps software you use?
I use a hama bluetooth gps with Google navigation.
I intend to port my own aviation navigation software as soon as I get some time
dfauvarq said:
I use a hama bluetooth gps with Google navigation.
I intend to port my own aviation navigation software as soon as I get some time
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I use an iBlutooth gps receiver and it works with google and Oruxmaps, no problem.
Check out Orux maps for use with aviation. He has PC software to import geo-referenced charts. It works great with charts from FAA Aeronav. It's one of the main things I bought my tablet for. I was using my phone in the cockpit.
see that
http://www.jbmm.fr/2010/12/07/utiliser-le-gps-de-son-telephone-android-sur-son-gen8/
http://www.jbmm.fr/2010/10/07/recette-archos-gen-8-a-la-sauce-gps/
after the seconf news, archos add this possiblity in the firmware
I use my Nokia N79 as Internet bluetooth GPRS modem and GPS at once.
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=211557&view=findpost&p=6340799
phoenixstudio said:
owh..nice job..what gps software you use?
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I used NDrive and Google Maps on my A43, I use Sygic Aura on my Nexus One (actually bought this one, it is really nice and in the general Android Apps & Games forum I started a thread of discount codes). Ndrive is a little more friendly to the resistive screen as its controls are larger and easier to hit.
Hi!
I use a Jentro BT-gps-8, works without any aditional software with Copilot, but have some Problems with the graphics if I turn the Archos 101 pad.
Maybe I make tomorow some screenshots of the display
regards
reporting,papago x5 failed on my archos..anyone successfully install papago x5 on archos tablet?
On the Archos: Bluetooth GPS by Googoo Android.
On my phone (an Eris): Bluetooth GPS Output by Meowsbox.
Both are free on the market, but "output" is limited to 10 minutes. If it works, its only about $1.60 for the full version.
Turn on bt on both devices, start output on phone, then start the one on the Archos. Pair and connect. Once you start seeing the readings on the Archos, you can start Google Maps and navigate! Google Maps will kick you to the settings to choose "choose bluetooth gps".
Enjoy!
I use a bt-359 gps connected with bluetooth to my A70. Found it on ebay for 7 euro and it works perfect!
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Agent Orange12 said:
I use a bt-359 gps connected with bluetooth to my A70. Found it on ebay for 7 euro and it works perfect!
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i'm goin to buy this one from amazon..=)
Papago X5 failed on my 101 as well, but NavDroyd and Sygic Aura work like charm.
A101 + BTGP-38KM/65C from http://www.dealextreme.com/p/65-cha...king-bluetooth-gps-receiver-data-logger-26337
Globalsat bt-359 is a nice size, works well and is the best GPS I have ever used.
I use my wm phone MWG Zinc II as the gps receiver, the wm phone install the app gpsgate to become a bluetooth gps receiver, then use google map in archos to connect to the wm phone through the bluetooth.
jan_tsui said:
I use my wm phone MWG Zinc II as the gps receiver, the wm phone install the app gpsgate to become a bluetooth gps receiver, then use google map in archos to connect to the wm phone through the bluetooth.
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Did the same thing with my old Omnia...using GPS2Blue...works with CoPilot, Google navigation & Sygic Aura (only 3 tested so far...
Tried phone but takes longer to fix, much worse sensativity in bad signal areas.
Plus I want phone for tethering sometimes
The bt-359 is amazing. Seconds to fix (warm start) indoors (none of my other GPS devices work in house). Also worked in a city, in car with coated windscreen with GPS just chucked in pocket down beside gearstick (also dropped in same location on another car the other day it didn't loose signal once).
Superb is the word for it
NExus one BT cannot pair?
I'm trying to test using my Nexus One's GPS
I can't even connect. I can pair the devices but thats it, its not actually connected. If I long press on the nexus one device entry the only option that comes up is unpair. Anyone else get this?
Its identical if I try it from Archos to Nexus one i.e. the N1 has paired with the archos, but there is no option to connect.
N1 running 2.2 stock
Archos running 2.1.08 stock
wintermute000 said:
I'm trying to test using my Nexus One's GPS
I can't even connect. I can pair the devices but thats it, its not actually connected. If I long press on the nexus one device entry the only option that comes up is unpair. Anyone else get this?
Its identical if I try it from Archos to Nexus one i.e. the N1 has paired with the archos, but there is no option to connect.
N1 running 2.2 stock
Archos running 2.1.08 stock
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It will keep saying that connect but not fair until you start your GPS software if you configure the GPS correctly.

[Q] BT Serial Port SPP (rfcomm) maybe someday?

I can't post this in development because I an still a nobody ...
Would it be possible to add in rfcomm for Bluetooth SPP serial port? The Nook would make a great tablet for telescope mount control over BT. You can't do it with the iPad due to the security around the BT stacks. It would also allow NEMA GPS modules to be read for different applications.
I'm running CM7 7.0.2 and this isn't yet available.
Just a dream?
Not sure if this is what you're talking about, but you can send the GPS data to the Nook form a GPS device like a Cell phone or GPS receiver. I use a stand alone GPS receiver and sometimes my Droid cell phone to send my location to the Nook to use CoPilot and Google Maps on the Nook. That's at least half of what you're talking about right?
Calla969 said:
Not sure if this is what you're talking about, but you can send the GPS data to the Nook form a GPS device like a Cell phone or GPS receiver. I use a stand alone GPS receiver and sometimes my Droid cell phone to send my location to the Nook to use CoPilot and Google Maps on the Nook. That's at least half of what you're talking about right?
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Hmm, you got me pondering...
I got out my trusty Garmin GPS 10 and I can pair but it's not connected. That could be for a couple of reasons (the Nook only connects on demand maybe.) But if what you are saying is correct, maybe it does support SPP since it uses a comm port for the GPS.
But, when I connected from my notebook and checked the services, SPP wasn't one of them (just OPEX and AD2P.) I will keep playing but I half expect that part of the SPP stack requirements are missing.
On the plus side, if the GPS will work too, that is a second plus since it's nice to be able to ask the GPS for the specific time and location during the telescope setup (it matters.)
I'll look for an app in the Market that might read an external GPS devices and show the location. I notice most apps are for reading the phone GPS (which we don't have.)
Thanks!
Android does not support SPP, but there are multiple apps in the market which do, Bluetooth GPS Provider is the one which I prefer as it works very well and just works no matter what.
Thanks folks,
I fired up the Garmin GPS 10 and it works using Bluetooth GPS. That means an application can add in the SPP. That is perfect and gives us hope!
I really appreciate the responses!
Awats said:
Thanks folks,
I fired up the Garmin GPS 10 and it works using Bluetooth GPS. That means an application can add in the SPP. That is perfect and gives us hope!
I really appreciate the responses!
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Yes, apps can directly talk with a Blutooth GPS. There are a handful which do this, or again, Bluetooth GPS Provider will provide the BT GPS to every app that asks for GPS.
This isn't only about GPS. GPS is just one aspect. I want to communicate with any serial device over BT. My understanding from reading it that rfcomm and the applications can supply that function.
What I did notice last night is that even without an application that supplies rfcomm, the Nook would still discover the devices unlike the iPad. I could pair to pretty much anything I wanted but it wouldn't connect. That's normal from my perspective.
At least I know it can be made to work.
khaytsus said:
Android does not support SPP...
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Well, the XOOM does at least. Not sure whether it was Motorola's or Google's doing though. I use a Bluetooth to Serial adapter from Roving Networks quite successfully with it. I'm unaware of any other devices that do it.
I agree that native Android doesn't support SPP but the rfcomm library does and if it's linked into the application, SPP works.
Now if I can only find a way to use VNC to control my PPC from the Nook without going through a remote server (maybe via adhoc or BT ...)
Any device at API level 5 (2.0) or above may support BluetoothSocket, RFCOMM and therefore SPP unless the OEM did something to screw it up.

[Q] A500 and a Garmifone

I was wondering how many have experience with the Garmifone? My G1 is dying a slow death plus I am looking for a better GPS receiver that I can connect to the A500 to use aviation navigation apps.
What are some thoughts here? Could this kill 2 birds with one stone?
I have heard from a buddy that he did not like it, but I have not had any experience with it.
NOt sure if teather GPS needs to have root acess but that will share your android phones GPS with the iconia.
if your also looking there are bluetooth GPS recievers, I have yet to use one, they do pair with android phones not sure about tablets
Thanks for the feedback Brian.
I have been looking at the Bluetooth GPS receivers made by Globalsat and talking with the developer of the Naviator App. He has been using a Bluetooth receiver paired with his tablet I believe and it seems to be working. Since I need to upgrade my G1 anyway, and don't really care about all the social networking bells and whistles that come with a lot of modern phones, I was looking at the Garminfone for it's navigational abilities.
eersfanpilot said:
Thanks for the feedback Brian.
I have been looking at the Bluetooth GPS receivers made by Globalsat and talking with the developer of the Naviator App. He has been using a Bluetooth receiver paired with his tablet I believe and it seems to be working. Since I need to upgrade my G1 anyway, and don't really care about all the social networking bells and whistles that come with a lot of modern phones, I was looking at the Garminfone for it's navigational abilities.
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the nexus s for tmobile is quite cheap right now at best buy
BrianDigital said:
the nexus s for tmobile is quite cheap right now at best buy
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Good looking phone. Do you know how well the GPS signal locks in it?
mine has been fine always gets a lock
I've had one for over a year now. It works fine. I don't know anything about linking its GPS function with another device. I tried to find a way to use it as a GPS receiver for a PC application, but could not find a way to do that.
I use the GPS in my Nexus One for my A500, shared via bluetooth. It works 100% beautifully, since it can lock down almost instantly and tracks more accurately than this thing can. I use Sygic's latest release as my navigation app, the only problem it has is that the top part of the interface is cut off (it doesn't use the new HC full-screen mode, yet), so the signs that come up are cut off.

Hook External GPS to Nook via Bluetooth

I was wondering if anyone knows how it is possible to connect an external GPS using the now hacked Bluetooth.
I saw no option in CM7 or MIUI to allow external GPS.
Thanks!
You need Bluetooth GPS from the market. Then somewhere in cm7 you need to enable mock locations. I can't remember exactly where at the moment but search the nook forums and you will find it
Sent from my NookColor using xda premium
Mock locations is at Settings > Applications > Development
I use a Garmin GPS 10 over BT. It works fine. You need an app that uses GPS. There doesn't appear to be build-in communication with a GPS module where it will act like it's built in hardware. At least I never found it.
I've used GPS BT, Google Maps and a couple of others and it works fine.
But now that you mention it, that would be a cool feature for CM7 to talk to a GPS module automatically and treat it like built in hardware.

Possible Joying Marshmallow GPS Band-Aid fix FOUND!!!

So I've been doing a little bit of playing around and I think I've found a temporary fix for anyone who has a Joying unit with the GPS borked after upgrading to Marshmallow by outputting your phone's GPS to the unit over Bluetooth. This may or may not require root, but I'm not sure. I'll update this as needed if folks are interested. Right now this is very preliminary.
What you need on the radio side:
An app that will allow you to connect to an external Bluetooth GPS. Personally I am using this one for now which is free, but I would guess any app should be easy enought to get working. You'll need to dig into developer options and switch to this app under Mock Locations Provider, which is where I'm not sure if you'll need your Joying unit rooted. I was able to do this in the AOSP Settings app, not sure if the Joying one will work.
What you need on the phone side:
An app that will allow you to output your phone's GPS to another Bluetooth device. I'm using this one. It has a 10-minute limited free version so you can see if it's working for you, and if so it's there to purchase.
Things I'm not sure about:
As stated, this may or may not require root and the AOSP Settings app to enable the Mock Locations Provider under Developer Options, hopefully someone can update me. Automation is another big question mark here. I have a No-Kill mod installed on my Joying unit, so this may be set-and-forget on the radio side since the app will auto-poll and reconnect, but I haven't had time to test this enough to be sure. Not sure if you can leave Bluetooth GPS Output running on the phone for automation purposes, and if you can, what the battery hit on your phone will be. This setup "should" also allow you to use an external bluetooth GPS receiver with the radio so you don't have to use the phone, but I don't have one to test with.

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