[Q] BT Serial Port SPP (rfcomm) maybe someday? - Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I can't post this in development because I an still a nobody ...
Would it be possible to add in rfcomm for Bluetooth SPP serial port? The Nook would make a great tablet for telescope mount control over BT. You can't do it with the iPad due to the security around the BT stacks. It would also allow NEMA GPS modules to be read for different applications.
I'm running CM7 7.0.2 and this isn't yet available.
Just a dream?

Not sure if this is what you're talking about, but you can send the GPS data to the Nook form a GPS device like a Cell phone or GPS receiver. I use a stand alone GPS receiver and sometimes my Droid cell phone to send my location to the Nook to use CoPilot and Google Maps on the Nook. That's at least half of what you're talking about right?

Calla969 said:
Not sure if this is what you're talking about, but you can send the GPS data to the Nook form a GPS device like a Cell phone or GPS receiver. I use a stand alone GPS receiver and sometimes my Droid cell phone to send my location to the Nook to use CoPilot and Google Maps on the Nook. That's at least half of what you're talking about right?
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Hmm, you got me pondering...
I got out my trusty Garmin GPS 10 and I can pair but it's not connected. That could be for a couple of reasons (the Nook only connects on demand maybe.) But if what you are saying is correct, maybe it does support SPP since it uses a comm port for the GPS.
But, when I connected from my notebook and checked the services, SPP wasn't one of them (just OPEX and AD2P.) I will keep playing but I half expect that part of the SPP stack requirements are missing.
On the plus side, if the GPS will work too, that is a second plus since it's nice to be able to ask the GPS for the specific time and location during the telescope setup (it matters.)
I'll look for an app in the Market that might read an external GPS devices and show the location. I notice most apps are for reading the phone GPS (which we don't have.)
Thanks!

Android does not support SPP, but there are multiple apps in the market which do, Bluetooth GPS Provider is the one which I prefer as it works very well and just works no matter what.

Thanks folks,
I fired up the Garmin GPS 10 and it works using Bluetooth GPS. That means an application can add in the SPP. That is perfect and gives us hope!
I really appreciate the responses!

Awats said:
Thanks folks,
I fired up the Garmin GPS 10 and it works using Bluetooth GPS. That means an application can add in the SPP. That is perfect and gives us hope!
I really appreciate the responses!
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Yes, apps can directly talk with a Blutooth GPS. There are a handful which do this, or again, Bluetooth GPS Provider will provide the BT GPS to every app that asks for GPS.

This isn't only about GPS. GPS is just one aspect. I want to communicate with any serial device over BT. My understanding from reading it that rfcomm and the applications can supply that function.
What I did notice last night is that even without an application that supplies rfcomm, the Nook would still discover the devices unlike the iPad. I could pair to pretty much anything I wanted but it wouldn't connect. That's normal from my perspective.
At least I know it can be made to work.

khaytsus said:
Android does not support SPP...
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Well, the XOOM does at least. Not sure whether it was Motorola's or Google's doing though. I use a Bluetooth to Serial adapter from Roving Networks quite successfully with it. I'm unaware of any other devices that do it.

I agree that native Android doesn't support SPP but the rfcomm library does and if it's linked into the application, SPP works.
Now if I can only find a way to use VNC to control my PPC from the Nook without going through a remote server (maybe via adhoc or BT ...)

Any device at API level 5 (2.0) or above may support BluetoothSocket, RFCOMM and therefore SPP unless the OEM did something to screw it up.

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Is there Soft GPS on MDA

Hi,
Have a T-Mobile MDA/HTC Wizard.
Is there some GPS software which can connect via Wifi/T-Zones or Internet and do the same routing/function such as a GPS Device?
I dont want to spend $600 to buy a GPS device and then connect it to my MDA. Rather buy some GPS software which can work on the MDA by itself.
Thanks.
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No GPS software is going to work properly without a GPS receiver from which to extrapolate your current position.
If you want GPS capability of any kind at all, you will need to get a receiver, period. There's nothing GPS related on the phone except for a settings applet that is disabled by default and only lets you set the port of a bonded receiver. There's also no way a network connection is going to be able to determine your position and software that attempts to do so using cell towers are only accurate to within a few miles, if it works at all. There's a bunch of receivers available on ebay (and elsewhere) for cheap...I got a Holux GPSlim236 for a little over $100 and it works great with the wizard via bluetooth. They are your options....getting a receiver or forgetting about it.
Or try Navizon. It was created to do exactly what you want. http://www.navizon.com
Used to be free, now you have to pay for it. But theres a 14 day trial i believe.
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nextbond said:
I dont want to spend $600 to buy a GPS device and then connect it to my MDA.
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I saw some bluetooth GPS receivers as low as $80. And you can use your GPS receiver anywhere.
If I have the tomtom software, do I have to get the tomtom gps receiver or can I use another brand?
I have TomTom 5.21 and use a non TomTom bluetooth GPs reciever.
Hi all,
Thanks for the responses. Seems I will need a GPS device. If thats the case, why bother with a PDA? Should just buying a Gavin or TomTom GPS device be enough?
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Depends on what you want. If you have the phone already, $100 for a GPS unit and maybe $100 for decent mapping software is a whole lot cheaper than $500-$800 for a decent Garmin unit. Plus you get a phone and a PDA out of the deal. I went on vacation a few weeks ago and the mapping software plotted a route and told me how to get there. Once there, I used slingplayer to watch my home cable channels while sitting on the beach, I used the camera to take pictures of the beach and whatnot, the network connection to upload those pictures to a phlog, IM with friends and coworkers and check the weather and news with IE. Oh yeah...and it rang when I got a phone call or text message. Then it plotted a route back home (presumably the same way backwards but I didn't really check) and told me how to get there. Depends on what you want.
TomTom can work with other bluetooth receivers. Works with my Holux, at least.
I'm interested in buying a bluetooth gps receiver I found a few on amazon but this one caught my attention because of the price
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...6698/ref=pd_bbs_3/102-8138642-5399340?ie=UTF8
is that one any good?
I strongly advise you to check the type of GPS chip used in the receiver. The best one for the moment seems to be the Sirf star 3.
It's not as much of a detail as you may think : older chips can take a very long time to get fixed (which means that you might wait for dozens of minutes before even getting a GPS position), and are usually more power consuming.

GPS on Hermes without receiver. Possible?

Hi guys n girls,
I'm kinda new here and I have a question I've been dying to ask since I got hold of my HTC hermes. I'm currently using Vodafone's version of HTC Hermes, which is the V1605.
Is it possible for HTC Hermes to use GPS navigation without an external GPS receiver such as a bluetooth device? I learnt that HTC Hermes has no GPS chipset so it will definitely need a receiver, but I'm just curious and I wanna confirm. Thanks
Afaik, it got a GPS Chipset but no antenna
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=292466
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291181
thanks for the clarification.
so, it will need a receiver to act like an antenna?
I'm not sure if you search for GPS or looked at the Wiki on the Hermes but its been covered a few times. The only thing you can really do is get a bluetooth GPS receiver or something along those lines.
Read and Search
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_GPS_FAQ
I use a Holox bt-321 GPS receiver, works fine!
I was going to link to an ebay auction for one but its possibly the ONLY day when there isnt an auction for one!
I bought here from a user a Holux M-1000. Works fine and without any problems.
Give Navizon a go - > http://www.navizon.com/
its a virtual GPS for phones without GPS, Goes on Phone Cell info and Wifi AP Signals, you have to use wifi but it does pinpoint where you are better with wifi on
also out puts the data via a com port so you can use Satnav an other GPS enabled apps with it
Garmin GPS 10
I'm using an older Garmin GPS 10 that I purchased a few years ago, but it stills works great. It is rechargeable and the battery seems to last forever. I also using the Beta version of Garmin's Mobile XT, which gives my 8525 the same look and feel as "modern" GPS-only devices.
Some of the cool "toys" the software uses is:
2-D or 3-D map view
PeerPoints (sending GPS coords via SMS or MMS)
Local gas prices near you
Real time traffice
Weather
POIs ( you can have up to 4,000 waypoints/favorites/locations)
Voice prompts
Hotels.com info
etc.
Of course, some of the features depends on whether or not you have a data plan or WiFi access. I also like it because it is very small, works via bluetooth and is very accurate. I also use BeelineGPS because I also like to Geocache.
http://www.geocaching.com/
P.S. The current version of my GPS is the Garmin Mobile 10 for PDAs/Laptops
im using a "54 channel Holox" (Fake Holux) but i havent seen a quicker connecting device

Archos + GPS (external)

hi there..
i would like to discuss about having archos as navigator or GPS..
im using A70IT,so it does no has internal gps receiver..
from theory, we can achieve it by using bluetooth gps receiver and gps software..
anyone had tried this??
can you tell what brand of bluetooth gps receiver that you use..
plus with the gps software..
(im still experimenting..,any findings will be updated here)
one of working gps on archos..
sorry for my bad english..
Tested bluetooth GPS receiver:
BT-359S (GlobalSat)
BT-359 (Globalsat)
TomTom MK-II
Hama bluetooth gps receiver
iBlutooth gps receiver
Jentro BT-gps-8
BTGP-38KM/65C
phone:-
Nexus One
Nokia N79
Htc Droid Eris
Tested Navigation software
iGO
NDrive
Oruxmaps
Google maps navigation
Yandex.Maps -Detailed maps of cities in Russia
Copilot
NavDroyd
Sygic Aura
you might need to install software like "bluetooth gps provider" or "Bluetooth GPS" on archos and something like "Bluetooth GPS Output" on your gps receiver (at market) or "GpsGate" for windows mobile (phone only).
I shared my Nexus Ones gps via bluetooth to my A43, it was very simple and worked with any program I used.
I did a search and had found some usb bluetooth receivers around $50-60, probably don't need anything special to get the job done.
daveid said:
I shared my Nexus Ones gps via bluetooth to my A43, it was very simple and worked with any program I used.
I did a search and had found some usb bluetooth receivers around $50-60, probably don't need anything special to get the job done.
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owh..nice job..what gps software you use?
I use a hama bluetooth gps with Google navigation.
I intend to port my own aviation navigation software as soon as I get some time
dfauvarq said:
I use a hama bluetooth gps with Google navigation.
I intend to port my own aviation navigation software as soon as I get some time
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I use an iBlutooth gps receiver and it works with google and Oruxmaps, no problem.
Check out Orux maps for use with aviation. He has PC software to import geo-referenced charts. It works great with charts from FAA Aeronav. It's one of the main things I bought my tablet for. I was using my phone in the cockpit.
see that
http://www.jbmm.fr/2010/12/07/utiliser-le-gps-de-son-telephone-android-sur-son-gen8/
http://www.jbmm.fr/2010/10/07/recette-archos-gen-8-a-la-sauce-gps/
after the seconf news, archos add this possiblity in the firmware
I use my Nokia N79 as Internet bluetooth GPRS modem and GPS at once.
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=211557&view=findpost&p=6340799
phoenixstudio said:
owh..nice job..what gps software you use?
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I used NDrive and Google Maps on my A43, I use Sygic Aura on my Nexus One (actually bought this one, it is really nice and in the general Android Apps & Games forum I started a thread of discount codes). Ndrive is a little more friendly to the resistive screen as its controls are larger and easier to hit.
Hi!
I use a Jentro BT-gps-8, works without any aditional software with Copilot, but have some Problems with the graphics if I turn the Archos 101 pad.
Maybe I make tomorow some screenshots of the display
regards
reporting,papago x5 failed on my archos..anyone successfully install papago x5 on archos tablet?
On the Archos: Bluetooth GPS by Googoo Android.
On my phone (an Eris): Bluetooth GPS Output by Meowsbox.
Both are free on the market, but "output" is limited to 10 minutes. If it works, its only about $1.60 for the full version.
Turn on bt on both devices, start output on phone, then start the one on the Archos. Pair and connect. Once you start seeing the readings on the Archos, you can start Google Maps and navigate! Google Maps will kick you to the settings to choose "choose bluetooth gps".
Enjoy!
I use a bt-359 gps connected with bluetooth to my A70. Found it on ebay for 7 euro and it works perfect!
Sent from my A70S using Tapatalk
Agent Orange12 said:
I use a bt-359 gps connected with bluetooth to my A70. Found it on ebay for 7 euro and it works perfect!
Sent from my A70S using Tapatalk
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i'm goin to buy this one from amazon..=)
Papago X5 failed on my 101 as well, but NavDroyd and Sygic Aura work like charm.
A101 + BTGP-38KM/65C from http://www.dealextreme.com/p/65-cha...king-bluetooth-gps-receiver-data-logger-26337
Globalsat bt-359 is a nice size, works well and is the best GPS I have ever used.
I use my wm phone MWG Zinc II as the gps receiver, the wm phone install the app gpsgate to become a bluetooth gps receiver, then use google map in archos to connect to the wm phone through the bluetooth.
jan_tsui said:
I use my wm phone MWG Zinc II as the gps receiver, the wm phone install the app gpsgate to become a bluetooth gps receiver, then use google map in archos to connect to the wm phone through the bluetooth.
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Did the same thing with my old Omnia...using GPS2Blue...works with CoPilot, Google navigation & Sygic Aura (only 3 tested so far...
Tried phone but takes longer to fix, much worse sensativity in bad signal areas.
Plus I want phone for tethering sometimes
The bt-359 is amazing. Seconds to fix (warm start) indoors (none of my other GPS devices work in house). Also worked in a city, in car with coated windscreen with GPS just chucked in pocket down beside gearstick (also dropped in same location on another car the other day it didn't loose signal once).
Superb is the word for it
NExus one BT cannot pair?
I'm trying to test using my Nexus One's GPS
I can't even connect. I can pair the devices but thats it, its not actually connected. If I long press on the nexus one device entry the only option that comes up is unpair. Anyone else get this?
Its identical if I try it from Archos to Nexus one i.e. the N1 has paired with the archos, but there is no option to connect.
N1 running 2.2 stock
Archos running 2.1.08 stock
wintermute000 said:
I'm trying to test using my Nexus One's GPS
I can't even connect. I can pair the devices but thats it, its not actually connected. If I long press on the nexus one device entry the only option that comes up is unpair. Anyone else get this?
Its identical if I try it from Archos to Nexus one i.e. the N1 has paired with the archos, but there is no option to connect.
N1 running 2.2 stock
Archos running 2.1.08 stock
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It will keep saying that connect but not fair until you start your GPS software if you configure the GPS correctly.

[Q] A500 and a Garmifone

I was wondering how many have experience with the Garmifone? My G1 is dying a slow death plus I am looking for a better GPS receiver that I can connect to the A500 to use aviation navigation apps.
What are some thoughts here? Could this kill 2 birds with one stone?
I have heard from a buddy that he did not like it, but I have not had any experience with it.
NOt sure if teather GPS needs to have root acess but that will share your android phones GPS with the iconia.
if your also looking there are bluetooth GPS recievers, I have yet to use one, they do pair with android phones not sure about tablets
Thanks for the feedback Brian.
I have been looking at the Bluetooth GPS receivers made by Globalsat and talking with the developer of the Naviator App. He has been using a Bluetooth receiver paired with his tablet I believe and it seems to be working. Since I need to upgrade my G1 anyway, and don't really care about all the social networking bells and whistles that come with a lot of modern phones, I was looking at the Garminfone for it's navigational abilities.
eersfanpilot said:
Thanks for the feedback Brian.
I have been looking at the Bluetooth GPS receivers made by Globalsat and talking with the developer of the Naviator App. He has been using a Bluetooth receiver paired with his tablet I believe and it seems to be working. Since I need to upgrade my G1 anyway, and don't really care about all the social networking bells and whistles that come with a lot of modern phones, I was looking at the Garminfone for it's navigational abilities.
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the nexus s for tmobile is quite cheap right now at best buy
BrianDigital said:
the nexus s for tmobile is quite cheap right now at best buy
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Good looking phone. Do you know how well the GPS signal locks in it?
mine has been fine always gets a lock
I've had one for over a year now. It works fine. I don't know anything about linking its GPS function with another device. I tried to find a way to use it as a GPS receiver for a PC application, but could not find a way to do that.
I use the GPS in my Nexus One for my A500, shared via bluetooth. It works 100% beautifully, since it can lock down almost instantly and tracks more accurately than this thing can. I use Sygic's latest release as my navigation app, the only problem it has is that the top part of the interface is cut off (it doesn't use the new HC full-screen mode, yet), so the signs that come up are cut off.

Android Wear support for external Bluetooth GPS receiver?

Can anyone confirm or deny if Android wear can connect to an external Bluetooth GPS receiver and get location from it? On Android it requires mock locations enabled, but I can't find anyone talking about this ability on Android Wear.
Few Android wear devices have GPS and it is a battery killer, so I would prefer to use an external Bluetooth GPS receiver if I were to get an Android Wear device.
I can find my old bluetooth gps and test it. I really doubt it supports external GPS units.
Any luck trying this out?
I tried. Doesn't work (yet?). The BT stack seems not set up to handle serial port profiles which is a requirement for external GPS decoders.
Thanks for trying this out. Much appreciated!
l_deadeye_l said:
Thanks for trying this out. Much appreciated!
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Sorry I completely forgot about this. I couldn't make it work. I don't think watch google maps even designed to work with bluetooth GPS modules. Does it even support it on units that have GPS module installed? I think it takes everything from phone.

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