After applying the 4.3 OTA update access to the SD card seems to have been set to R/O. Was this an oversight on Google's part.? Or was this done on purpose.?
I purchased the device under the guise of having a fully functional SD card.. Are other users seeing the same SD card R/O behavior after the 4.3 OTA update.?
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S4 Google Edition...
On purpose. Since Honeycomb Google has switched sdcards to read only. I believe this was a big deal with the Xoom. However, Google hasn't released any stock Android devices with an sdcard. Manufacturers have always hacked it in. With 4.2.2 Samsung accidentally left media_rw on the WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE (while confusing, its for the storage external to the system storage and is a carry over from old Android versions and named for compatibility). The new SDCARD permission is called WRITE_MEDIA_STORAGE. Unfortunately that permission only works on system apps.
So essentially they were removing a Samsung hack and bringing it closer to ASOP.
Thanks for the word Jon.. I have since figured out how to regain the functionality but its really a pain to not have direct access to your storage via the phones interface..
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I have the stock rooted Polish Lollipop ROM and am on the verge of going back to Kitkat. The main problem is that many apps do not have permission to write to the internal or external SD card and there seems to be no way of fixing it. Amazon app updates and Tripadvisor cityguides to name but two. I'm well aware of how to grant permission if prompted but these apps never request permission. I've run the Kitkat SD card fix which seems to have sorted out the external SD card but not the internal one. Any offers before I hurl my phone through a window?
Get a custom rom. Crap stock
Tempting but I wanted to keep Knox 0x0
Update - I ditched the Polish rooted stock ROM & tried Alexandr's Devbase ROM & everything works fine now. No more stupid SD card permissions nonsense either.
I loved Stock Android around when KitKat was out, but I came to hate it when Lollipop came out. I decided to get the Moto X and try out Marshmallow, but I'm already running into problems with/hating Google's (and Motorola's) oversimplified features.
Usually when I get a phone a put in an SD card so I can store some apps and data on there, as well as music, pictures, files, etc. that has been on the card for years. I pop in the SD card to the 16 gig phone ready to move Spotify and some other apps to the card, but then I run into that whole "format as internal storage. It says that formatting it will wipe the card (obviously), but it also says once I do I will only be able to use the SD card with this device, and when I asked a friend for help, she said I wouldn't be able to transfer data from the card anymore either.
I started searching everywhere on the internet for a workaround, but I can't find anything. Is there any workaround with this? I'm already rooted and on a ROM so I'm open to any suggestions. If not I'm just going to sell the phone or downgrade to lollipop.
Which version of twrp are you using ?
You need to make sure you have this version of twrp.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3200520
Prior to this version, twrp was broke in regards to the new adaptable storage that came in Android M, then finally a few weeks ago, 3.0.0 came out, fixed that, and also a few other things. I can not use the combined/adaptable storage feature in Marshmallow like it was intended. To be honest, it was the major reason I got this phone and bought the 16gb version. Its all good now tho.
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Which version of twrp are you using ?
You need to make sure you have this version of twrp.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3200520
Prior to this version, twrp was broke in regards to the new adaptable storage that came in Android M, then finally a few weeks ago, 3.0.0 came out, fixed that, and also a few other things. I can not use the combined/adaptable storage feature in Marshmallow like it was intended. To be honest, it was the major reason I got this phone and bought the 16gb version. Its all good now tho.
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Yeah I have 3.0.0 installed on my phone, should I reinstall it or install 3.0.1?
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Yeah I have 3.0.0 installed on my phone, should I reinstall it or install 3.0.1?
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Can you explain what the problem is again? Starting with twrp 3.0 , adaptable storage should work as its suppose to.
And yeah I just seen 3.0.1 is out I'm thinking just flashing the .IMG will work, I used flashify
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Can you explain what the problem is again? Starting with twrp 3.0 , adaptable storage should work as its suppose to.
And yeah I just seen 3.0.1 is out I'm thinking just flashing the .IMG will work, I used flashify
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The problem is Marshmallow wants me to format my SD card as internal storage just to store apps on it, and I am trying to find a way to store apps on there without formating it, as I've been doing with all previous Android versions.
I don't get why you wouldn't want to use the adaptable storage option. What's wrong with backing ur sd up to pc, format as internal(adaptable storage? , and then copy back from pc. If I'm missing something, my bad.
Otherwise,
Pretty sure there isn't way to do what you want on 6.0... But again, I don't know what you are actually losing out on other than having to back the card 1st, format, and copy back. A small hassle
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I don't get why you wouldn't want to use the adaptable storage option. What's wrong with backing ur sd up to pc, format as internal(adaptable storage? , and then copy back from pc. If I'm missing something, my bad.
Otherwise,
Pretty sure there isn't way to do what you want on 6.0... But again, I don't know what you are actually losing out on other than having to back the card 1st, format, and copy back. A small hassle
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I don't want to use the adaptable storage because I will only be able to use the SD card with this phone and I won't be able to transfer data from it either.
This is a problem because I currently use the SD card between two phones, as a makeshift flash drive, and as storage for my DSLR so I can edit photos with my phone.
I went through this whole ordeal myself recently.
You can't have it both ways. I chose to format my card as portable storage so it will remain readable in any card reader. The draw back is apps can't be stored on it, nor most app data.
To work around this i'm making every app a system app. This will alleviate some of the burden of the internal storage. Some apps will just not work as system apps. I think swype is one example.
Some apps will require their .lib to be placed in the appropriate lib folder under system (lib or lib64 for 64bit binaries). Google maps and hangouts are two examples that come to mind. You'll know if you need this if the app crashes when starting.
The ideal solution is to have a phone with at least 32GB storage or more. This becomes a non issue then.
Yeah, Motorola removed the Move to SD card feature in favor of "the richer experience natively provided by Android."
I think you can use TWRP "Partition SD Card" to create 2 partitions on the SD, though... a FAT32 partition to share with your other devices and an EXT4 partition that you can use to store apps. You'll need an android app like Mounts2SD to copy apps to/from the external storage.
The other option is to downgrade to 5.1.1 or use a 6.0 ROM that still has the old Move to SD card feature. I'm not sure if there are any, though.
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I went through this whole ordeal myself recently.
You can't have it both ways. I chose to format my card as portable storage so it will remain readable in any card reader. The draw back is apps can't be stored on it, nor most app data.
To work around this i'm making every app a system app. This will alleviate some of the burden of the internal storage. Some apps will just not work as system apps. I think swype is one example.
Some apps will require their .lib to be placed in the appropriate lib folder under system (lib or lib64 for 64bit binaries). Google maps and hangouts are two examples that come to mind. You'll know if you need this if the app crashes when starting.
The ideal solution is to have a phone with at least 32GB storage or more. This becomes a non issue then.
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To the op Sorry man, I didn't really know all this. But this post seems to explain it pretty well. Looks like you may have to sell or downgrade. That sucks.
As far as this specific post is concerned, I'm trying to follow my best. As you said, best would be to buy at least at 32gb well some, including me have already bought a 16gb, unfortunately. Personally, iv chose to use adaptable now that twrp 3.0 is out. When i Install apps, wherever they go is where they go. After seeing this thread, I'm thinking maybe there is way to do things a different way to save some space. I went ahead and went into apps and tried moving Spotify from internal to SD card. but after I did this, I noticed every time I close the app it signs me out lol wth... that's a problem. I didn't know why it was doing that. Is this an example of an app not being able to run correctly on the SD rather than internal? Also, i tried moving maps from internal to sd, seemed to be running fine, but shortly after, i noticed on a reboot, it somehow uninstsalls. Its gone as if i uninstalled it manually but i obv did not. Like what? How is this even possible. I wanted to give you a few examples of what i tried and what was happening. But I asked myself why am I even doing this, is it to save space? If it is, that's fine.
But yeah man, it seems you know more than me about this , that's safe to say. But based on what iv written here, can you give me some advice on things to do if I'm using the adaptable storage option. Should I be moving apps? Why? Which ones? Or just leave things as is? Again i have a 16gb model with a 32gb card running adaptable storage. If there are ways to save space by moving apps certain places I'm fine with that. I'd just like to get your opinion on what exactly I should be doing based on the model I have, size card, and running adaptable storage. Hey sorry too bother you about this. I had noticed you replied to the op of this topic and you know what you are talking about.
And to the op, sorry if iv hijacked your post man.
Peace
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Yeah I should have gotten the 32gb version, although it's kind of my fault because I already had a negative opinion of post-kitkat stock Android yet I got the device anyways. Maybe I can resell the device on swappa and get a 32gb version instead of buying a new one, mainly because the only two phones of the 2015 generation I have interest in is the Moto X Pure and the One M9. Worst case scenario is settling for Samsung (as oneplus said, never settle)
To make matters worst, I temporarily moved all the data to my computer and formated the SD card as internal as a test, only to find out the two apps I put on there don't want to act properly because the SD card is too slow (which is why the feature shouldn't even be here in the first place).
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If I do do one of those options it would most likely be the second one because last time I messed with partitions on an SD card I, somehow, bricked the phone. I could look for a tutorial somewhere, but this phone's XDA forums is relatively quiet compared to other phones I've had (especially Android development).
@Sheetzie03, I can't help you with adoptable space as it's not something I have much experience with. It could be spotify relies on other components which are not accessible when on the sd.
I want to use a SD card as internal storage on my SM-T580 tablet. I have tried using the ADB Shell commands to set up a 32 GB SD card as 50% internal and 50% external, but I can’t seem to get it to work. I also tried an automated procedure forum here: (https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/auto-formatting-sdcard-to-internal-t3583875). This automated procedure seems to be working for others, but not me on my device. I also tried the manual procedure and automated procedure on my Samsung Galaxy S7 (SM-G930V), with no luck either.
Has anyone done this successfully on a Samsung SM-T580 tablet (Android 7 Nougat) and /or a Samsung Galaxy S7 (SM-G930V) (Android 8 Oreo)? Thanks for any help.
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I want to use a SD card as internal storage on my SM-T580 tablet. I have tried using the ADB Shell commands to set up a 32 GB SD card as 50% internal and 50% external, but I can’t seem to get it to work. I also tried an automated procedure forum here: (https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/auto-formatting-sdcard-to-internal-t3583875). This automated procedure seems to be working for others, but not me on my device. I also tried the manual procedure and automated procedure on my Samsung Galaxy S7 (SM-G930V), with no luck either.
Has anyone done this successfully on a Samsung SM-T580 tablet (Android 7 Nougat) and /or a Samsung Galaxy S7 (SM-G930V) (Android 8 Oreo)? Thanks for any help.
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If I am not mistaken that feature has been removed by Samsung on the stock firmware for the T580. If I remember when I google it I found something talking about rooting your tablet and instaling a custom boot imge. They way I got it to work was just by installing a custom rom like Lineage OS.
Take a look at this: (looks like it is only for MM)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-a/how-to/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-sm-t580-t3659774
Hope this helps.
Thanks, srgrusso. I guess Samsung wants us to buy newer higher capacity devices. I discovered on my Galaxy S7 that triggering Developer Options allowed me to transfer most of the apps to the SD card. So, I think that will suffice for the present, and when I pay off both the SM-T580 and SM-G930V then I will root them. Thanks for the link. Will just rooting the devices allow me to gain the ability to use a SD card as internal storage, or will I also have to install a custom ROM?
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Thanks, srgrusso. I guess Samsung wants us to buy newer higher capacity devices. I discovered on my Galaxy S7 that triggering Developer Options allowed me to transfer most of the apps to the SD card. So, I think that will suffice for the present, and when I pay off both the SM-T580 and SM-G930V then I will root them. Thanks for the link. Will just rooting the devices allow me to gain the ability to use a SD card as internal storage, or will I also have to install a custom ROM?
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I never did understand why Samsung makes us pay such high prices for average devices full of bloat with next to nothing for storage space. I would recommend a custom ROM unless you like the stock firmware. After I installed my custom ROM I found that I didn't really need the adoptable storage because I gained a couple of gigs of space back do to the fact that I lost all the bloat and bs of the stock firmware. The stock firmware is ridiculously huge and a space hog. I don't know for sure but I think you would still have to patch the stock firmware. I also seen people mention an app called App2SD I don't know much about it though. Here is a link to the XDA thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/apps2sd-partition-sd-card-link-apps-to-t3122919. There are a couple of drawbacks of adoptable storage. One is speed. You nead to make sure you have a fast sd card. Another is that most sd cards will burn out quickly being used as adoptable storage. Here is a good article about that https://www.androidcentral.com/adoptable-storage.
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I never did understand why Samsung makes us pay such high prices for average devices full of bloat with next to nothing for storage space. I would recommend a custom ROM unless you like the stock firmware. After I installed my custom ROM I found that I didn't really need the adoptable storage because I gained a couple of gigs of space back do to the fact that I lost all the bloat and bs of the stock firmware. The stock firmware is ridiculously huge and a space hog. I don't know for sure but I think you would still have to patch the stock firmware. I also seen people mention an app called App2SD I don't know much about it though. Here is a link to the XDA thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/apps2sd-partition-sd-card-link-apps-to-t3122919. There are a couple of drawbacks of adoptable storage. One is speed. You nead to make sure you have a fast sd card. Another is that most sd cards will burn out quickly being used as adoptable storage. Here is a good article about that https://www.androidcentral.com/adoptable-storage.
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Thanks for the info and the links. I found some instructions that allow me to transfer some apps to the SD card in my Samsung Galaxy S7 (SM-G930V). The instructions are to enable Developer Options, by tapping on the Build Number 7 times, when Developer is enabled, then go to Developer Options, and enable "force allow apps on external ". This has allowed me to gain about 5 GB of internal storage. I think that this will help me until I root the phone and install a custom ROM. Thanks for all your advice and help.
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Thanks, srgrusso. I guess Samsung wants us to buy newer higher capacity devices.
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Absolutely nothing to do with that and neither does that statement make sense.
Samsung STILL release low capacity budget devices. It wouldn't make sense to release them if they didn't want people to buy them.
Samsung are simply trying to cater for all corners of the market, from budget to Flagships.
Samsung had good reason to remove adoptable storage and in part agree with the decision. However I don't believe it should have been removed entirely, the choice should have been the consumers with a clear stern warning if it used.
The reason?
Basically performance.
Adoptable storage relies on much slower memory.
Samsungs internal NAND memory is way faster read and certainly write than any SD CARD/ flash media.
Even Samsung budget devices use high performance NAND memory.
From Samsungs point of view it would be pointless releasing a device, especially a flagship, with high performance specs and then bottle neck it with relatively slow memory.
All that would happen is that all over the web and forums there'd be people whinging and whining about the performance of their device and how slow it is. Particularly the gaming community and those with higher spec devices.
There'd be countless calls to Samsung support by people questioning the performance of their devices.
It boils down to the fact that many people do not understand what adoptable storage is and how it works.
I created the adoptable storage patch because I believe people should be given the choice. However I don't recommend using it.
I certainly don't, I just manage my storage better.
There's no point in whinging about how much storage capacity the device has.
It's all there in the specs before anyone buys the device.
Yes I agree there is far too much bloat in some of Samsungs roms and this wastes capacity.
However Samsung are learning and Tbh they've slimmed down TouchWiz alot in recent OS releases.
I did it on my Redmi Note 8T 32GB. Just flash the ZIP file which I attached here in Recovery and then you will be able to format SD card as Internal Storage.
*** If it is not working, you must need to FORMAT DATA to delete the encryption, so before of that - make a backup of all your files ***
I tested it on Android 13 and it is working perfectly.
Then you can use for example an app: APP2SD (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd) from Google Play to move apps to adopted storage (SD CARD)
Hi, is there a specific ROM I can use, which enables me to use SD card as internal memory on my Samsung J530f on Android 9.0 preferably? I tried just one custom ROM and rooted the phone with Magix and and downloaded Root Essentials as well, but this is not working. I am looking for a working solution, not for a guess, how it might work... I tried the "maybe" options, now looking for a verified solution... Thanks!
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Hi, is there a specific ROM I can use, which enables me to use SD card as internal memory on my Samsung J530f on Android 9.0 preferably? I tried just one custom ROM and rooted the phone with Magix and and downloaded Root Essentials as well, but this is not working. I am looking for a working solution, not for a guess, how it might work... I tried the "maybe" options, now looking for a verified solution... Thanks!
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I don't prefer you to do that
Bc which speed your internal storage has is more than any sd card that you use!
This way works for older j5(such j5 2015 that have 15mb/s but i buy sd card with 35mb/s and set it as internal)you can measure your speed by specific apps
And about your problem
Most of aosp pie and oreo roms have this by default,just Google it
or if you use tw rom you can ask your dev to provide this for you(sorry l have different model so i don't have that)
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Speed is not an issue. Problem is, that currently i have to move every application manually to sd card, which after update moves back to internal memory. I leave for a week to mountains and am not on wifi and after my return 20apps needs to be updated. I update one, than jave to move it to sdcard as there is no space to upgrade the rest. Now imagine updating 20apps with manual intervention every fcking day. So of dourse i rather sacrifice speed and invest in a fast sd card than manually update very app every time. I was expecting someone to let me know a difect working rom, instead of googling, as on xda i was not able to find a suitable one.
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Speed is not an issue. Problem is, that currently i have to move every application manually to sd card, which after update moves back to internal memory. I leave for a week to mountains and am not on wifi and after my return 20apps needs to be updated. I update one, than jave to move it to sdcard as there is no space to upgrade the rest. Now imagine updating 20apps with manual intervention every fcking day. So of dourse i rather sacrifice speed and invest in a fast sd card than manually update very app every time. I was expecting someone to let me know a difect working rom, instead of googling, as on xda i was not able to find a suitable one.
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Every Oreo and pie rom has it. If you want a 7.1.1 stock rom port there is also an adoptable storage patch enabler zip.
So basically any rom from nougat upwards has it.