Possible Root? - Moto Z Force Questions & Answers

Was thinking of going and swapping my S7 Edge out for the Force after work today. So got me to look into a root method came across this not sure if it will work seeing as I cant try it.
http://www.sadroid.com/root-lenovo-moto-z-force-5-minutes/

This will not work. This is a very old exploit.

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[Q] Glaxy Tab 4 T537 att

Is it possible to un-lock the boot loader on this device? I have read that ATT has locked boot loaders.
Also do I need root to enable USB Host? When I use USB host checker , android,hardware.usb.host is checked green.
But,
Hanheld.core_hardware.xml & _core_hardware.xml are X'ed in red.
Any assitance would be greatly appriecieated
Not possible to unlock
To be more accurate, it is very very very very unlikely to be unlock able.
Sent from my SM-T330NU
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smknutson said:
Not possible to unlock
To be more accurate, it is very very very very unlikely to be unlock able.
Sent from my SM-T330NU
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I have the SM-t537a, Or the new 10.1 I used towel-root and it did in fact give me full root, Also unlocked the device. I only tested it for root with one of the root checkers from the play store I am sorry I cannot remember witch one. I booted to recovery mode and had full access to the boot-loader
However there are no roms for my device as it is so new. The towel-root is available on the net, I just typed in towel-root on Google,. It took me 3 or 4 tries before I got a clean link,just be careful and follow the instructions, and you should have no problems.Here is the good link for the towel root .apk just go to Google search and type in towel root. I am new here so I cannot post the link, but it is towel root by geohot.
Towel root won't install on my device even though i told it to allow unknown apps. Any ideas on why this is? I have the ATT tab 4 also. I really want to unlock the bootloader on this if anyone knows a work around.
kqarin said:
Towel root won't install on my device even though i told it to allow unknown apps. Any ideas on why this is? I have the ATT tab 4 also. I really want to unlock the bootloader on this if anyone knows a work around.
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hopefully you already found your answer... you have to downgrade to an exploitable version T537AUCU1ANE1 then use TR. I had the same issue around the start of this year. It's posted in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785869&page=25#post58495094
OK, I just got this damn Samsung tab 4. I Have the exact one (ATT), it is running 4.4.2. TR does NOT work on this, tried it. Can someone point me in the direction for another method. Looking for the method flashing older version to gain root. Usually google will get me where I need to go, not this time.
mbl1979 said:
OK, I just got this damn Samsung tab 4. I Have the exact one (ATT), it is running 4.4.2. TR does NOT work on this, tried it. Can someone point me in the direction for another method. Looking for the method flashing older version to gain root. Usually google will get me where I need to go, not this time.
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61370235&postcount=1
Thanks rep, going to give this a try this afternoon. If this works I'll keep the tablet lol.
OK, so that root process worked. Big smile on my face. Now to get a custom recovery on this and flashe a rom. Anyone now of one for sm-t537a?
mbl1979 said:
OK, so that root process worked. Big smile on my face. Now to get a custom recovery on this and flashe a rom. Anyone now of one for sm-t537a?
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AT&T and Verizon lock all their bootloaders, so unfortunately custom recoveries and custom kernels are impossible. You could build a custom rom, just as long as it was able to run on top of the stock kernel (so no cyanogenmod). You still have to figure out a way to flash it (Flash Fire maybe?)
Dang. Time to sell this thing lol.
So when did all this get so complicated? I take a hiatus from Android for a year or two and come back and everything is locked down. Maybe I'm wrong, but it never used to be this difficult.
Locked bootloaders are a terrible thing

Very NOOBy, but I would like some things cleared up.

I currently have an S5 G900A on 5.0.
Am I able to root this phone as is?
If not, am I able to root it by downgrading it to say 4.4.2?
How would I got about doing either of these?
I'm sorry that I'm a big noob at this, but I would like to root my phone and I'm having issues right now.
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JarheadHME said:
I currently have an S5 G900A on 5.0.
Am I able to root this phone as is?
If not, am I able to root it by downgrading it to say 4.4.2?
How would I got about doing either of these?
I'm sorry that I'm a big noob at this, but I would like to root my phone and I'm having issues right now.
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With an AT&T branded device, you will find things difficult at best......
You have zero chance of downgrading successfully due to a locked bootloader and security measures put in place by AT&T........
Some XDA members have given favourable mention to a process called (I think) safe strap, but as I have never had to use it, I haven't needed to research it.
One thing is for certain though.....
While you *might* be able to attain root, you won't be able to flash a custom recovery to your device.......blame AT&T and their almost apple like desire to retain control over your device........
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg

Best root method so far for Lag and Overheating?

This newb has rooted and unrooted several times. I apologize if this shouldnt be here but the similar threads were dated. I have an S7 edge SM-G935V on 6.0.1
Can anyone suggest which root and tune method(thread links please)lags and overheats the LEAST either on MM or Nougat. I only need root for one auto-clicker app and also require an Xposed module Security Bypasser, the only way Ive found to hide root so far the app I need it for. I havent tried any nougat roots yet because Im getting conflicting info on the ability to downgrade. Can anyone confirm this as well?
Also If I need to buy another phone, what is the smoothest running used phone to root for Verizon? If I cant get this working optimally. Pixel, HTC 10 etc... If Verizon isnt an option can you suggest a phone for Cricket or another carrier. I really need to get this working ASAP.
Thank you for your reply

animal crossing on rooted phone?

I have a T-Mobile snapdragon s8 rooted and I can't play animal crossing because it detects root. I see people using magisk to play but we can't obviously use that method. Does anyone know any other way to get it working short of unrooting?
I don't have an answer for you but I'm in the same boat. I rooted my unlocked US s8 with sampwnd, tried to install animal crossing, nope. I gave up on getting it from Play Store pretty quick so I've been using an apk. It can get through the nintendo link, the initial scene, and the character customization, then shuts itself down. Countless reinstalls of this app. I ended up trying to unroot through the supersu app. Now I'm in an even worse situation: I don't have root, but every app that checks for root thinks I do, so no animal crossing or netflix for me. And I can't open a root adb shell in order to redo the sampwned root without reflashing stock. This weekend when I have more time I'll be reflashing stock and I really hope that works. Root will be worth it when the bootloader can be unlocked, but I can't deal with the missing apps and the 80% battery BS honestly.
Rooted exynos using magisk.batman rom and notorious kernal No special settings. Game working fine. Netflix works as well. Must be something with the way the snapdragon variant is rooted
sparky2029 said:
I have a T-Mobile snapdragon s8 rooted and I can't play animal crossing because it detects root. I see people using magisk to play but we can't obviously use that method. Does anyone know any other way to get it working short of unrooting?
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You can try Xposed+root cloak or one of the other root hide tools there. If its safety net or knox you're outta luck though
dreamertea said:
I don't have an answer for you but I'm in the same boat. I rooted my unlocked US s8 with sampwnd, tried to install animal crossing, nope. I gave up on getting it from Play Store pretty quick so I've been using an apk. It can get through the nintendo link, the initial scene, and the character customization, then shuts itself down. Countless reinstalls of this app. I ended up trying to unroot through the supersu app. Now I'm in an even worse situation: I don't have root, but every app that checks for root thinks I do, so no animal crossing or netflix for me. And I can't open a root adb shell in order to redo the sampwned root without reflashing stock. This weekend when I have more time I'll be reflashing stock and I really hope that works. Root will be worth it when the bootloader can be unlocked, but I can't deal with the missing apps and the 80% battery BS honestly.
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Yea I just uprooted and re flashed stock. I loved having root but it was the same for me, I hated not being able to use apps plus the 80% charging. I was in the oreo beta so its cool I have that at least. Thanks for your reply
Edit: animal crossing is awesome by the way. I love it. Totally worth unrooting for me
partcyborg said:
You can try Xposed+root cloak or one of the other root hide tools there. If its safety net or knox you're outta luck though
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Yea that was the first thing I tried but im pretty sure its safety net

What happens if I...?

So. Here we are.
The Samsung Galaxy S9 and S9+ have been released, and many of us are just now hopping on the S8/+ bandwagon. I, very recently, purchased a SM-G955U model variant of the S8+ (hence the second 5 :silly and, like many of you, wanted to root it as soon as I got my hands on it.
I was happily impressed when I hopped on XDA and saw that there were at least *some* relatively updated custom ROMs and root methods. I tried out several using Odin3 (PCR.. and SamPWND... cuz those were the only two relatively popular threads that I found in my 2 minute search) and PCR struck my eye. I downloaded all the necessary files, taking well over 30 minutes on my potatonet, made sure I had both Odin3 and PrinceComsy Odin3 (and Kies... I think that's still relevant), setup the BootLoader, AP, whatever all the other buttons do, and clicked start.
Waited for a few seconds and... a (Succeed 0 / Failed 1) message appeared, as soon as it started.
Looked at my phone, the realization that it wasn't in Download mode kicked in and I smacked myself in the face.
Rebooted into Download mode, reset PrinceComsy Odin, smashed all the buttons again, clicked start and..
(Succeed 0 / Failed 1).
Great.
This has repeated for 3 days now, on all computers, 10s of different USB cables, well over 20 different USB ports (hubs not included).
So, I decided at a different approach. I'm sure we all know those "CLICK ME DOWNLOAD ME FOR FREE ROOT I-I CAN REALLYDO IT GUYS JU-JUST DOWNLOAD ME!* advertisements. One in particular struck my eye, no names will be given, and I tried it out.
Downloaded the Windows executable for the laughs and giggles (never thinking it would actually work) and whaddya know, right after telling me my device is rootable it's now asking me for 40$.
I figured, what the hell, I just got paid and sent the money over thinking I was about to get scammed. Hoped on live chat and setup everything the way they asked me to (taking even longer than a grandma driving because potatonet) and they start, and I'm not joking, REMOTE CONTROLLING my PC to root my phone (granted, the root method for my phone was advertised, blatantly stating they would have to control my PC but.. come on).
At this point all I can think about is how I'm lucky I have a throwaway PC and this phone doesn't mean my life or I would be really pissed when I start seeing a worm come out of my harddrive.
Needless to say the process took about an hour, maybe an hour and a half (much longer than their *15-20 minute* claim time, but not awful nonetheless) and I walked out of there with a non-bricked rooted S8+.
So.. what exactly went wrong with my setup, and how can you guys avoid spending 40$ just to ROOT YOUR PHONE.
I'm not a professional. I can't offer professional advice. But what I can tell you is I know exactly what went wrong for me in this case.
I never flashed the 7.0 stock android ROM. I was trying to flash PCR (which, ironically enough is what said company used.. yes.. they used PCR. Not a custom method. Not a custom ROM. They literally used PCR) over 8.0.
So, I'm out 40$, but walked out with a rooted S8+ and I'm fairly happy. Apparently those root programs aren't ALL bad.
But seriously.. why aren't there any 8.0 ROMs or root methods that actually work? Every method I've seen requires you to downgrade. I know Oreo only came out last month but there are some seriously talented people here on XDA and the fact that I had to downgrade just to have to reflash in about a month or twos time is frustrating to say the least. But, that's just venting and off-topic.
So, laugh at the idiotboy who couldn't figure out how to read instructions properly or setup his project right, but just know.. just know.. I spent 40$ to root my phone. And that, my friends, is an amazing feat.
(Also, I apologize if this isn't in the right section.. I feel like it's not but I have NO idea where else to post this. This is more of a story thread to make myself the eye of the public humiliation but it does also serve as a reminder to really check everything before you start rooting. I got lucky. I could have potentially hardbricked my brandnew s8+ simply because I didn't read the instructions properly, or plan correctly. This is something that a lot of new users fail to do, and then complain when *their phone is stuck in a bootloop*.
If you don't know what you're doing, there are plenty of people here on XDA and apparently all over the web who will be more than happy to take your money and root your phone, relatively safely, for you.)
well as jrkruse said
"root is not going to happen unless on of two things happen. Either we get combo oreo firmware so we have an oreo boot.img that is permissive or they event root that will work on stock enforcing boot.img for oreo because you can not modify the boot.img on a locked bootloader. Systemless root like on S7 will not work unless we have an eng boot.img with security set to 0 like the s7 has, so that scripts can execute at time of boot to allow a systemless type of supersu to run. I personally would not expect root anytime soon as if you look back at whats been released for combo firmware it only seems to be firmware for the original software that came on the phone. They just update the bootloaders to match the version number so that you can still flash the nougat combo firmware, but I doubt we see oreo combo firmware. It just has not happened on earlier models. The S7 has been lucky that eng boot.img have been released for nougat but the s8 would require also eng bootloaders to be released as you simply cant flash an eng boot.img on regular bootloaders like you can on the s7. There is always hope but in this case it is really dim but we do have some options with safestrap and modded system images but this part could come to an end at anytime if samsung patches the samfail method so enjoy what you have for now"
I have a rooted debloated S8+ (SM-G955U) and I've been looking for custom ROMS for days now and all I could find was the G95XF or whatever that is. And I'm tempted just to throw it on my phone and try but I'm too scarred to do it. I'd really like literally any custom ROM because that's kind of the entire reason I rooted my phone so I'm just a tad aggregated as well. I don't see any progress with the ROMS either I've been searching all over XDA and on youtube. But yet nothing. If anyone finds anything do you think you could msg me? Somehow?
Ryan8675309 said:
I have a rooted debloated S8+ (SM-G955U) and I've been looking for custom ROMS for days now and all I could find was the G95XF or whatever that is. And I'm tempted just to throw it on my phone and try but I'm too scarred to do it. I'd really like literally any custom ROM because that's kind of the entire reason I rooted my phone so I'm just a tad aggregated as well. I don't see any progress with the ROMS either I've been searching all over XDA and on youtube. But yet nothing. If anyone finds anything do you think you could msg me? Somehow?
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there is only one rooted rom for 950/5 u do not flash f stuff on your phone not only will it fail in odin but if by some weird act of craziness and worked you would be probably near hardbricked
ghxstt said:
But seriously.. why aren't there any 8.0 ROMs or root methods that actually work? Every method I've seen requires you to downgrade. I know Oreo only came out last month but there are some seriously talented people here on XDA and the fact that I had to downgrade just to have to reflash in about a month or twos time is frustrating to say the least. But, that's just venting and off-topic.
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There actually is a form of root for Oreo but it's not exactly root because you only have access to r/w in recovery/safestrap
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s8+/development/rom-t3771206/page1
Ryan8675309 said:
I have a rooted debloated S8+ (SM-G955U) and I've been looking for custom ROMS for days now and all I could find was the G95XF or whatever that is. And I'm tempted just to throw it on my phone and try but I'm too scarred to do it. I'd really like literally any custom ROM because that's kind of the entire reason I rooted my phone so I'm just a tad aggregated as well. I don't see any progress with the ROMS either I've been searching all over XDA and on youtube. But yet nothing. If anyone finds anything do you think you could msg me? Somehow?
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EDIT; I misread your thread. I thought you were saying you had a G95xF device you were going to throw a G95xU ROM on.
If you have a G95xU device, here is what I used to flash my ROM/root https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...root-partcyborgrom-aqk3-samfail-odin-t3717702.
If you have a G95xF device, I cannot give you any links because I haven't done any research into that firmware.
EDIT 2; My points still stand. Do NOT flash custom ROMs on your phone that aren't for your phone model. You will ruin your phone.
Just don't. It's not worth it.

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