Comparing the Idol 3 to some recent releases - Onetouch Idol 3 General

Everyone seem's to be looking at phones like the idol 4..the oneplus 3...but all the phones I saw mentioned were in the $200-$400 range and the $200 model was rather barebones...now I'm not a gamer and I originally purchased the idol 3 because the phone was CHEAP and had the features I wanted. I decided to review a couple of phone...both cheaper than the $200 I paid for my idol 3 but can still be considered prospects.
The idol 3 has come a long way with marshmallow but the development community is still tiny and alcatel provides zero support. The removal of fastboot when installing marshmallow is another example of their ....I want to say ineptness because why cripple a phone that is sold unlocked.....if you use the marshmallow 6.0 radio you lose band 12 lte....if you flash the 5.0.2 radio you get it back.
The first phone I tested basically came across as an Idol 4.7 except it had a 5.5 screen. The ZTE Zmax 2 is currently selling for $60 at bestbuy [ http://slickdeals.net/f/8791267-at-t-gophone-zte-zmax-2-bestbuy-59-99?v=1&p=85689931 ] as an "AT&T Go Phone" but is easily unlocked to run on other carriers. It comes with Lollipop but folks have already found "soft roots" for it and I imagine before to long marshmallow will be available.
The basic specs are:
Qualcomm MSM8916 Snapdragon 410 [ Quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A53 ]
16GB Internal Memory
2GB RAM
MicroSD Card Slot (up to 64GB)
5.5" 1280x720 Display [720p]
8MP Rear & 2MP Front Cameras
4G LTE
Removable 3000 mAh Battery
Android 5.1 Lollipop
Full specs available at: http://www.gsmarena.com/zte_zmax_2-7572.php
You might like: http://www.tomsguide.com/us/zte-zmax-2,review-3582.html
For unlocking, see the Wiki board in thread [ Everything in the wiki was NOT written by me so when you see "I tried this" in there it's the original author. ]:
http://slickdeals.net/f/8851267-16g...ct-smartphone-60-free-shipping?src=SiteSearch
For case:
http://slickdeals.net/f/8791267-at-t-gophone-zte-zmax-2-bestbuy-59-99?v=1&p=85689931#post85689931
Tempered glass:
http://r.ebay.com/eiSfaR
Low light pictures using Open Camera with Expsoure adjustment:
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=85985455&postcount=472
Recommended apps to get *as close as possible* to LG double knock feature.
-- Nova launcher prime -- Has double knock to turn off the screen
-- Gravity Screen (Plexnor) -- Comes with tons of useful features like keeping the Screen on by motion, turning the screen off by placing it flat on a tablet, pocket sensor etc.. But I am only using the Wave to unlock (proximity sensor to unlock)
Double knock to turn on the screen -- I did tons of research.. Not possible. So don't waste your time..only LG has implemented this without draining the battery (that is, without having to keep a black screen On waiting for user input).
Rooting -- not available at the moment because no one has been able to crack the ZTE's locked Bootloader.. so don't fall a prey to fictitious links that claim a root of this phone. On the +ve side, haven't felt the need to root till now. I read a post that on XDA there is some way to disable even system apps without rooting, but haven't felt the need or tried it so far.
How to unlock this phone:
1. Do not turn the phone on, don't even open the box.
2. Go to this web site: https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/?#/
3. Check I have read and agree to the eligibility requirements to unlock my device.
4. This is super important, check Non-AT&T Mobility Customer
5. Fill out the form, including the IMEI number which is located on the Box
6. Submit
7. You will be sent an email with a link to confirm
8. Open your email and confirm
9. Anywhere from 1 hour to 48 hours you will be given an unlock code. It took 8 hours for me to receive mine.
10. Open up the box, put in your SIM from your Carrier and turn it on.
11. You will be prompted for the unlock code
12. Put it in and continue.
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Firmware Update (credit: jchu14)
If you're using the Zmax 2 on a non-AT&T network, don't throw away the ATT GO prepaid sim card! You can use the sim card to obtain software update for free.
The most current version is b17. Usually if you have a non-ATT sim card in the phone, when you check for sofware update in 'settings', you won't be able to see updates available. You need to have an active sim card in the phone to activate.
To activate the sim card, go to att's website [att.com] and enter the sim card number printed on the sim card itself. Go through the activation process (need email address and zip code). When it asks you to put in an IMEI: put in all zeros. When it asks you to choose a plan, it doesn't matter what you choose. I picked the 25 cent/min plan even though all other plans should work (you don't have to pay anything regardless of what plan you pick).
Go though the activation process and eventually you'll assigned a phone number and your sim is activated! Stick that sim card in the phone and then check for a software update in 'settings'. You should be notified of an available update. If it tells you to wait 24 hours before you can check again, you can manually change the date and time of your phone in 'settings > date and time'. Set it forward a day, then you can again check for software update. Generally the phone will update to b16 first. After b16 is applied, you may have to check and roll the date forward twice before it'll see and apply the b17 update.
There is no need to actually put any money into the account attached to the sim card. However, this sim card will expire in 60 days if you don't put in any money into the account. So maybe it's not a bad choice if you want to hold on to the sim card inactivated until a major update is available.
Confirmed in AT&T Forums, these conditions MUST be met.
For the Update to proceed automatically, the phone conditions have to be as follows:
1. 100% Battery Capacity
2. Charger Connected
3. Active AT&T SIM
I use Cricket MVNO and followed these steps in the wiki to successfully update. (lowprice)
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T-Mobile Network compatibility:
* 4G LTE Band 4 (primary) AWS 1700/2100 - YES
* 4G LTE Band 2 (secondary) PCS 1900 - YES
* 4G LTE Band 12 (new primary/upcoming) 700-A - YES!
* 4G HSPA+ Band 4 (deprecated) AWS 1700/2100 - NO
* 4G HSPA+ Band 2 (new primary) PCS 1900 - YES
* 2G EDGE Band 2 (primary) PCS 1900 - YES
T-Mobile Features:
* WiFi Calling - NO
* VoLTE - NO
* RCS - NO
* Tethering/HotSpot - NO native, YES use 3rd party app (ES File Explorer)
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The second phone is a bit of a special deal...currently Amazon is selling the BLU R1 HD for $60 [I'd get the Zmax 2 over the BLU which is smaller and has ads for the same price ] and the Moto G4 for $155. Both of those include a $50 price drop (and a 2nd $25 off for the Moto G4) because they are ONLY for prime members and they show ad's on the lockscreen. Would you let amazon display ad's if it saved you $75 off a phone? I decided I would...here is the deal: https://slickdeals.net/f/8881879-pr...-50-moto-g-4th-gen-from-125-more-free-s-h?v=1
Basic Specs:
Moto G (4th Gen) Specs:
5.5" 1920x1080 IPS display
1.5Gz Qualcomm Snapdragon 617 Octo-Core CPU
2GB RAM
MicroSD Card Slot (up to 128GB)
13MP rear + 5MP front cameras
3000mAh battery
Android 6.0 Marshmallow
Compatible w/ AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint & Verizon
16GB OR 32GB (+$30)
Detailed Specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g4-8103.php
Final out the door price on these: $125 for the 16gb G4 and $155 for the 32gb g4. I opted to pay the $30 extra to get the 32gb..but will also be dropping in a 128gb microsd. Both beat the original sale price of the Idol 3......I'm curious to see what others think. Please don't turn this into a flame war. This is just to compare how the idol 3 stacks up to recent phones at or below it's original price range. What was flagship a couple years ago is now seen as a "bargain phone".
You might like this review: http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/mobi...6-review-the-best-budget-smartphone-ever-made

Damn, that is a sweet price for the Moto 4G.
Now I am wondering if I should have waited a bit instead of paying 90€ to repait my Idol's cracked screen after it randomly broke in my hands.
I feel tempted to get a G4 even so... mainly for the gigantic dev community it will surely have.
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thanks for the thread
to be honest ive had mostly what you may call top end phones (most of the flagships up to 2015) but i had too many contracts at one point and i ended up selling most of them (still have the htc m9 and z3)
but the girlfriend uses my m9 and my dad uses my z3 and i was looking just for a cheap phone just till the end of my contract but wanted some good features like (great display and sound and just to run nice)
i wasn't expecting much with the idol 3 but i was surprised just how good it was for the money i paid £180 brand new
and for me the display and sound beat both my z3 and m9 so for a budget phone i think that's good
i just wish we had more development and support for the idol 3 but at least it isnt non existent
and i agree with the marshmallow builds at the moment there a pain but again at least we getting them
all in all i dont think even today there much of a better phone for the value and when we have a final mm builds up with no bugs ect i think we will have a much snappier and better camera too just to add to the list

Nice. Also, the honor 5x and idol 3 are nearly identical aside from the aluminum case the honor has. Same hardware specs. But the idol 3 speakers are way way better (I have used both) and calls sound better too.
Not bad for an almost year old phone heh, its def still worth purchasing now, esp at 70 less than the honor 5x at cricket price.
That zte looks freaking sweet for the price tho heh. I keep finding myself asking why pay more than 200ish for a phone unless u really need the insane camera quality the high end guys have. For general use the canera on the idol 3 is great. Who actually needs freaking 4k res on a phone sized screen or 6gb of ram? Sure big internal storage is nice, but SD cards are crazy cheap lol. My 64gb evo plus was 20 bucks !
I also really liked the blue vivo 5, great specs and beautiful construction. Unfortunately there not much going on for it ROM wise, blu is terrible with updates, and there is no way to get band 12 on it making it virtually useless for Tampa bay gsm carriers.
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Nexus 5x is only $199 through Project Fi.

seabro01 said:
Nexus 5x is only $199 through Project Fi.
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But you can only use it with Google Phi. That's a bit of fine print they don't tell you. Got a friend who tried to use his 5x on different carrier from Phi and it wouldn't read sim, even with rooting. Google knows how to get people so watch out.

kingoftheafro said:
But you can only use it with Google Phi. That's a bit of fine print they don't tell you. Got a friend who tried to use his 5x on different carrier from Phi and it wouldn't read sim, even with rooting. Google knows how to get people so watch out.
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Pretty sure that would be illegal. That was the whole point behind the recent laws passed that REQUIRE a provider to provide an unlock method for a device that's paid in full so it could be used with other carriers.
*update* Just went and read the FAQ at Project FI and there's no mods to the phone..they are vanilla...it specifically addresses that you can leave project fi after the device has been paid in full with no contract. People can bring their OWN phones (nexus 5x, nexus 6 etc..on specific models because the phones they are using work on ALL the major carriers) and just order a project FI sim which pretty much settles it.

famewolf said:
Everyone seem's to be looking at phones like the idol 4..the oneplus 3...but all the phones I saw mentioned were in the $200-$400 range and the $200 model was rather barebones...now I'm not a gamer and I originally purchased the idol 3 because the phone was CHEAP and had the features I wanted.
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That is the same reason I bought the Alcatel Idol 3 as well. It was the best value proposition I'd seen since the Nexus 4 (and it actually surpassed the Nexus 4 in every way other than updates).
The Moto G4 (and G4+) look like the new kings of budget smartphones in my opinion. With that said, I think that the areas where the phones excel are still only a few shades better than the Idol 3. OTOH, when I upgraded from my N4 to my Idol 3, it was the equivalent of upgrading to a flagship in terms of added functionality/compatibility.
If I didn't already have an Idol 3, I would definitely be giving the G4 a hard look. Overall though, I'm not sure whether I would hypothetically pull the trigger because the phone design is the same generic Moto feel. (I will give credit for the ability to switch the back as a cool option though). Also, I don't like the fact that there is no NFC and no fingerprint scanner (on the cheaper model) which makes me question the future proofing of the device. Overall, this is probably the best budget phone out there, but it is nothing that differentiates the phone in my opinion.
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kingoftheafro said:
But you can only use it with Google Phi. That's a bit of fine print they don't tell you. Got a friend who tried to use his 5x on different carrier from Phi and it wouldn't read sim, even with rooting. Google knows how to get people so watch out.
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Your friend must have broken something. There are a lot of people who bought the 5X for the $199 Project Fi price, then canceled Project Fi and took it to their regular carrier

macallik said:
That is the same reason I bought the Alcatel Idol 3 as well. It was the best value proposition I'd seen since the Nexus 4 (and it actually surpassed the Nexus 4 in every way other than updates).
The Moto G4 (and G4+) look like the new kings of budget smartphones in my opinion. With that said, I think that the areas where the phones excel are still only a few shades better than the Idol 3. OTOH, when I upgraded from my N4 to my Idol 3, it was the equivalent of upgrading to a flagship in terms of added functionality/compatibility.
If I didn't already have an Idol 3, I would definitely be giving the G4 a hard look. Overall though, I'm not sure whether I would hypothetically pull the trigger because the phone design is the same generic Moto feel. (I will give credit for the ability to switch the back as a cool option though). Also, I don't like the fact that there is no NFC and no fingerprint scanner (on the cheaper model) which makes me question the future proofing of the device. Overall, this is probably the best budget phone out there, but it is nothing that differentiates the phone in my opinion.
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Your friend must have broken something. There are a lot of people who bought the 5X for the $199 Project Fi price, then canceled Project Fi and took it to their regular carrier
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Performance and screen on battery time are still going to be a major issue for some folks...marshmallow helped alot with performance but dropped screen on time to around 4 hours....even with the $60 budget ZTE Zmax2 I picked up which has the same cpu/storage/memory as the idol 3 4.7 but a 5.5 screen I'm getting 6+ hours of screen on time showing as a minimum. For some the fact the moto g4 will have a HUGE development community can also be an important issue. Alcatel has totally missed the ball on working with the community to get positive free advertising.
So the general consensus seems to be......yeah there are phones out there cheaper than the idol 3 was that have some specs that are close (but improved) but the idol 3 is still doing good enough FOR NOW.
That being said...I purchased both the zmax2 AND the moto g4...more than likely the moto g4 will become my primary phone however I fully intend to continue working with the idol and zmax2. I'm personally looking forward to @The Marionette's "aosp-ify" Marshmallow Rom.

Your friend must have broken something. There are a lot of people who bought the 5X for the $199 Project Fi price, then canceled Project Fi and took it to their regular carrier
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Unless they changed something he got the 5x when google first came with it for 199 with phi, but he also lives in Kansas so that may be an issue too. I've got Cricket/ATT and I barely got any service out there.
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famewolf said:
Pretty sure that would be illegal. That was the whole point behind the recent laws passed that REQUIRE a provider to provide an unlock method for a device that's paid in full so it could be used with other carriers.
*update* Just went and read the FAQ at Project FI and there's no mods to the phone..they are vanilla...it specifically addresses that you can leave project fi after the device has been paid in full with no contract. People can bring their OWN phones (nexus 5x, nexus 6 etc..on specific models because the phones they are using work on ALL the major carriers) and just order a project FI sim which pretty much settles it.
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okly dokly then. He lives in KS so I'm guessing he just doesn't receive service from other carriers where he lives then. He told me the other sims didn't work, but I was out there last weekend for family reunion and I got no service in town.

kingoftheafro said:
Unless they changed something he got the 5x when google first came with it for 199 with phi, but he also lives in Kansas so that may be an issue too. I've got Cricket/ATT and I barely got any service out there.
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okly dokly then. He lives in KS so I'm guessing he just doesn't receive service from other carriers where he lives then. He told me the other sims didn't work, but I was out there last weekend for family reunion and I got no service in town.
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The confusing part of that was I thought from reading that Project FI piggybacked on the other networks....so if it has service then he should be able to identify what network/towers/bands he's using and find the local provider that uses those.

Oh no famewolf is switching primaries. Will the new moto your getting sound as good as the idol 3 does? Listening to music while closing at work was a huge factor for me in buying the phone, and it did not disappoint.
Even the honor 5x which I almost spent 70 bucks more on did not sound nearly as good. Compared to my managers s7, hers is louder but idol 3 has way better definition. I haven't found any other midrange phone that even comes close.
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nekomancey said:
Oh no famewolf is switching primaries. Will the new moto your getting sound as good as the idol 3 does? Listening to music while closing at work was a huge factor for me in buying the phone, and it did not disappoint.
Even the honor 5x which I almost spent 70 bucks more on did not sound nearly as good. Compared to my managers s7, hers is louder but idol 3 has way better definition. I haven't found any other midrange phone that even comes close.
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Maybe not, although the moto g4 does come with dolby however realistically I do all my listening via bluetooth...in the car...on a bluetooth speaker....what it will do is let me go out all day for doctor's appointments and errands and not have to carry a charger with me or if I do have to I can get an hours worth of juice in about 15 minutes....I am however adding quick charge receivers to the idol and the zmax2 so they can charge wirelessly.

Oh OK! If new moto battery life is gonna be significantly better than a idol 3 on xda ROM I'm interested too! Friend just had her $600 iphone stolen and she's lookin for something cheaper this time
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Next Phone for us on the 2 year upgrade cycle

Well, it's coming up on that time to think about our next phone. It seems that Samsung and Verizon is hell bent to keep us from flashing our phones. I've been looking around here and it seems that most of the developers have gone to Nexus and LG devices. From what I've seen so far I might go to the LG G4+ I recently heard rumor about.
What phones do you think is going to be popular among developers?
For sure, it isn't going to be the note 5, we all know why. The note 4 will still be with developers I'm guessing. The lg g4+ (lg g4 pro) is probably being announced at Berlin IFA and will be supported, look at the lg g4 devs.
The new nexus device will obviously be a powerhouse for a lot of people looking for an unlocked bootloader and stock vanilla android .
Anyways more devices might have support like the moto x series and sony's Xperia lines are good devices too compared to Samsung's insane pricing on their devices.
Definitely the new Nexus devices will be on the top of that list. I'm also looking @, for my use come Feb '16, a GSM G4 as well as the M9.
I'm interested in seeing what others have to say. This is what I want - removable battery, SD card slot, IR blaster, easy root and unlocked bootloader.
This is what I need - all of the above (or, if not a replaceable battery, then a battery case that allows on the fly recharging...)
I'm looking forward to Christmas and seeing what comes of it - that's the season (well, just prior to it) for all the new goodies...
What are others looking @?
I know I'm done with Samsung (iron fisted, whore mongers... No offense!) - they and Verizon have made it apparent who they believe owns my phone. Top it off with the lobotomized phones they now offer and they've gone from "smart" phone to "not-so-smart" phone...
I'm happy with my Note3 on Jasmine, but I don't see it getting an upgrade to Marshmallow. The note 5 is out of the question, I'd like a Note4(but the Verizon retail version doesn't appear to be rootable). I've got time, the Nexus on the Verizon site seems to be a bit light in the hardware side, the LG looks nice. Of course, there's always leaving Verizon, if I can convince the wife.
I just made the jump to TMO. I was afraid they'd not have the network I need here in Georgia, but they're comparable thus far to Big Red, with a greatly reduced cost structure and a heap more data for the $$$.
I was able to set my Note 3 (CDMA) up to work on TMO's GSM network and have awesome data speeds. It's a game changer - if I don't like them, I can move to AT&T and, when the time comes, root whatever I buy outright without the runaround that Verizon offers.
I thought about the Note 4 on TMO - it's an easy root but it's just not that much of an upgrade over the 3 and certainly not a $500+ upgrade. So, I'll stay put with the N3 and move to something else when this old daily driver don't drive no more... (That'll likely be Android "Zebra cake....")

Thinking about Switching from Verizon Note 3 to Moto X Pure

I've had my Note 3 since Launch, and a Note 2 before that. The Note 4 wasn't enough of a leap in specs to warrant paying the full phone cost (still have unlimited data) and the Note 5, while the specs are worth it, is still locked. So, since Samsung and Verizon keep making it impossible to unlock the Note 4 and 5's bootloaders, I can no longer be a Galaxy Note supporter, and need something new.
I've been comparing the Moto X Pure, Nexus 6, and Nexus 6P, and so far the Moto X Pure is winning hands down on all fronts for me. I'm also a power user, thanks mostly to XDA, so some of what I'm looking for might not be important to everyone.
I have a few questions that I'd like to ask current MXP users. I've done a fair bit of research tonight but I've either found speculation prior to the phone's release, conflicting accounts, or pure conjecture for some of these items.
1.) Has Verizon worked out their issues with allowing this phone onto their network, and is there any way I would lose unlimited data by doing so?
2.) Does Xposed framework install and run well on this device?
3.) I really have to have a way of having Gmail and Google Maps opened simultaneously for work. (I used multi window for this) I know multi window is a Samsung feature and wouldn't be on a Motorola device, but there is an Xposed addon that can add this feature. Does anyone know if it works with the MXP? I also read about the Android M developer version having this feature and that it will likely be included in the release version. Any way of running the dev version on the MXP?
4.) Any issues with screen colors? I know it's an LCD instead of an AMOLED screen. I had a Droid Bionic back in the day and the LCD on that thing had horrendous greens. Any issues like that with this device?
5.) I'm used to having my battery last all day, even with somewhat heavy usage. I'm aware that the MXP's battery is smaller than the Note 3's, anybody have serious battery life issues, or could I expect it to be about the same? How well does the turbo charging work?
6.) Does WiFi tethering work without that addition to my contract? Even if it's with root only, I'd be rooting this the second it's out of the box anyway.
7.) Is the battery removable?
Thank you for reading!
Battery isn't removable.Starting November 15th Verizon is raising their prices for those on unlimited to $50 a month,then you can pay monthly for your phone of choice.Unless you upgrade now using a loophole that still works from my understanding.It should work on Verizon fine,it's unlocked after all.The Nexus 6 worked for me fine with no issues.The colors are fine so far.
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It definitely works on Verizon. You just have to assure them it will work even though it's not in there system. It took Moto X Pure a little over 10 minutes to actually connect and get activated after the Verizon guy set me up in Houston.
As far as battery. Nope it's non removable. My battery life improved after 9 days of use the SOT got better and it lasts me at least 14-16 sometimes 11hrs if I'm bored and using alot of YouTube or Vine, kik insta.
Other than that it's a cool ass phone I wouldn't trade it for any other phone.?
Also if you're on Verizon if you download their Go90 app from the playstore you'll get an extra 2gb of data applied to your plan for free up until January!

Should I get a nexus 6P or wait?

Hi all,
I currently have a HTC M8 One with a semi-functioning charge port. I don't want to pay $150 to have it fixed. So, I'm looking at what's out there and coming. The specs on the Nexus 6 P look great but the HTC M10 one and Samsung Galaxy S7 also look great. I'm leaning towards the Nexus6 p but is there anything that makes this phone stand out?? I'm currently on Verizon and thankfully the HTC m8 one has a nano SIM. So activation should be pretty simple.
All depends what you like. I used to buy flagship phones and I've always bought Nexus every time one came out and imo there's just no device like a Nexus device. Maybe OPO but yeah Nexus is the real deal, pure uncut Android. Roms and kernels run better and have no bugs like other devices. It all depends what you like. For me I'm all Nexus and this 6p is by far the best one ever made. The camera is amazing and CPU is great too. Battery life is great. Just depends on what you like really..
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SM210 said:
All depends what you like. I used to buy flagship phones and I've always bought Nexus every time one came out and imo there's just no device like a Nexus device. Maybe OPO but yeah Nexus is the real deal, pure uncut Android. Roms and kernels run better and have no bugs like other devices. It all depends what you like. For me I'm all Nexus and this 6p is by far the best one ever made. The camera is amazing and CPU is great too. Battery life is great. Just depends on what you like really..
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Thanks. Any info is always helpful. I am a flashaholic so this sounds like the best option.
cromanorn said:
Thanks. Any info is always helpful. I am a flashaholic so this sounds like the best option.
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Oh yeah man come on over. You'll be in heaven. ?
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I was just helping my brother figure out why his m8 is running so slow. I concluded it is just showing its age. He is envious of my 6p. I say come on over.
cromanorn said:
Thanks. Any info is always helpful. I am a flashaholic so this sounds like the best option.
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Nexus everytime mate it's not chocked with bloat ware and buggy skins like touchwiz
Besides this really is the best android phone so far
You'd definitely not regret getting one
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Just ordered. Now I have to be patient. Thanks for the info everyone!!
Congratz! Nexus6 P + XDA = Win Win!
cromanorn said:
Hi all,
I currently have a HTC M8 One with a semi-functioning charge port. I don't want to pay $150 to have it fixed. So, I'm looking at what's out there and coming. The specs on the Nexus 6 P look great but the HTC M10 one and Samsung Galaxy S7 also look great. I'm leaning towards the Nexus6 p but is there anything that makes this phone stand out?? I'm currently on Verizon and thankfully the HTC m8 one has a nano SIM. So activation should be pretty simple.
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Is the N6P able to work on Verizon network?
Thanks
talkcc144 said:
Is the N6P able to work on Verizon network?
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I'm using it right now on verizon. Used an activated sim. Not sure if they will activate a new line for it though.
anyone here switch over to N6P from N5X?
Gizmoe said:
I'm using it right now on verizon. Used an activated sim. Not sure if they will activate a new line for it though.
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Please tell me how you got it to work on Verizon. I used their BYOD service after I logged in and enter my IMEI via this service and it stated that it did not support the N6P.
Thanks
talkcc144 said:
Please tell me how you got it to work on Verizon. I used their BYOD service after I logged in and enter my IMEI via this service and it stated that it did not support the N6P.
Thanks
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I had a galaxy s6 activated already on Verizon. All I did was take the sim out and put it into my 6P. You can't try and activate the 6P itself because they will tell you that it is not supported on their network. You have to use a sim that has been activated for a previous device.
cromanorn said:
Thanks. Any info is always helpful. I am a flashaholic so this sounds like the best option.
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With devices and carriers seemingly becoming more and more locked down, I'd highly recommend the n6p for you on that reason alone. I came from a VZW galaxy note 4 and I was very disappointed with the lack of root and development options. Although I will say that, it being my first Samsung device, I did eventually see very little reason to NEED root.. However now that I'm back on a device with more freedom I'm remembering how much I missed the features you can't get otherwise.
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talkcc144 said:
Please tell me how you got it to work on Verizon. I used their BYOD service after I logged in and enter my IMEI via this service and it stated that it did not support the N6P.
Thanks
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All I did was call VZW (to my understanding you should be able to accomplish the same by going into your local VZW store) and had them overnight me a nano sim card, only because I was coming from Note 4 with micro sim. I popped the sim card in and after about 5 min on the phone with customer support I was up and running.
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Personally, if you're on the fence about it, don't get it. The phone speaks for itself spec wise, and on the hardware level. Stock everything, so fast updates, etc.
If you're into the HTC / Samsung, you're mainly doing it for the software tricks / gimmicks, but also puts you behind the 8 ball as far as updates.
I would have personally waited for SD 820 devices since they are only about a month or so away at this point. And please don't give me the typical apologist "there is always something better around the corner" line. I'm completely aware of that, but there are plenty of devices gonna be announced in less than a month and some releasing shortly after that.
If they were 6+ months out then I would say to dive in head first. But unless you 100% want stock android, there is very little reason to get one at this point.
Just ordered a gold. I have a rooted S6 on Verizon which runs great. But...I want a device running latest and greatest, larger display, and better battery life. S6 has been a delight besides multitasking being borked and battery life. Only things Im really scared Ill miss is the Touchwiz theme engine (yes i said Id miss a touchwiz feature! Lol), and the superior display technology. There are some gorgeous themes on here
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Personally, if you're on the fence about it, don't get it. The phone speaks for itself spec wise, and on the hardware level. Stock everything, so fast updates, etc.
If you're into the HTC / Samsung, you're mainly doing it for the software tricks / gimmicks, but also puts you behind the 8 ball as far as updates.
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One thing you can't argue is the build quality from Huawei compared to HTC and Samsung. Regardless of the software packed into the latter manufacturers, there is no denying that the build quality is far superior.
I had the 6p on two different occasions and ended up returning each of them because it just didn't feel right in my hand. I went back to my trust Nexus 6 and the solid feel is there and the software is right up to par with the 6p.
I'm a fence sitter, i currently have a nexus 5, that is currently running stock, as i was intending to trade it and use the money to offset a nexus 6P.
A few things have kept me on the fence with the 6p such as:
Lack of QI charging, or any cases or accessories to add this - Yes QI charging is slow, in some cases much slower however its incredibly convenient, ive even got a couple of QI chargers with built in batterys that are almost the same size as the nexus 5 put one in my pocket next to the nexus 5 and it charges the phone wirelesly in a pocket
Difficult to repair, I will quite happily take something to bits to fix it, if required and the build quality and ease of disassembly is one of the criteria i look at, the 6p is far from simple to disassemble, the other option would have been nexus protect, but thats not available in the UK.
The bending thread, plus seeing the demo uints at car phone warehouse with the same bend/kink round the button
My sim only plan/network/carrier, at the moment i have a sim only plan for £15/month (approx US$21) for that i get, 2,000 minutes, 5,000 texts and completely unrestricted no limits all you can eat/use as much as you like 4g data with unrestricted all you can use 4G tethering, again no limits no restrictions, unsurprisingly my network Three is no longer offering this, and moving customers off this plan onto something else - the nearest equivalent will cost £20 a month ( US$43) and will see my minutes drop from 2,000 to just 200 with 4G/3G tethering capped at 12GB/month ( handset data remains all you can use ) at the moment im still on the sim 15 plan, but for how much longer I dont know, if anything changes it may be worth getting a phone on contract. ( The US carriers probably offer cheaper/more generous deals. )
so for now I'm intending to keep my nexus 5 going a little longer
New stuff wont available until end of march/April in most cases. Plus the price is at its highest when it's first released

Any regrets purchasing OP2 - Fixing to pull the trigger

I've been studying various phones over the last 2 months going crazy choosing a phone $300 or less that's best for me. The line between $200 to $300 is huge on androids. 2-3 GB ram usually and a 600-800 snapdragon with most being the 615. So of course my stop is at the OP3. I had other phones in mind like Honor 5X, Nexus 5x, zenfone 2 variants, droid maxx (2014) and so on. Lack of development and potential mods left me from other choices. Every phone lacks a feature and some have features. For this price there is no perfect phone. So I'm asking guys who made the choice to this phone. Are there regrets vs the $300 or less options?
how i wish it has wireless charging and fast charging and it'll be a perfect Phone for me. but i guess OnePlus didnt add that to the OP2 so that you'll buy the OP3
I've never found or had a "perfect" phone. I got this OP2 a couple weeks ago, worked great with stock firmware (update came out same day i got the phone lol). I have issues with my Pioneer head unit playing media audio, but other BT devices work for it so I'm not sure what the problem is there.
I flashed AOSPA on the device and it runs great, same BT issue as stock firmware.
Here's things I've noted:
- 4gb ram for the price
- 64gb storage isn't bad, meets my needs but not expandable.
- It charges in 1 1/2 - 2 hours with the included charger & cable, which is "okay".
- Fingerprint sensor works very quickly, I hear after that update it works better then most devices.
- Very sturdy design with the metal (and sandstone back = no slip!), but it is heavier then my old LG G3. Not sure if I'll be able to magnet mount it in my car yet.
- 1080p screen doesn't look any different then the 1440p i had on the G3, good color balance.
I think it is a good purchase for the price!
At this point, the OP2 seems like a great device to me. Though, I will suggests that you also look at the Moto X Pure. You really can't go wrong with either of them though!
At this point, the OP2 seems like a great device to me. Though, I will suggests that you also look at the Moto X Pure. You really can't go wrong with either of them though
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I've looked at it and many other phones. My phone purchase has been a 2 month long research project. Nexcus 5x, Honor 5x, Zenfone 2 variants, so on and so on. The Pure is the same price as the OP2 but with 16GB internal or $349 for 32 and $399 for 64GB which is a little out of my price range. My max is $300 and from Amazon I get a 10% discount being an employee
This will be a at&t US carrier who I will be switching to. Boost is my current carrier and Verizon before that. In 2015 I remember issues with One Plus on at&t. Have those issues been addressed. I guess I'll be getting the sim kit from at&t and doing my hookup through the internet hopefully
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I've looked at it and many other phones. My phone purchase has been a 2 month long research project. Nexcus 5x, Honor 5x, Zenfone 2 variants, so on and so on. The Pure is the same price as the OP2 but with 16GB internal or $349 for 32 and $399 for 64GB which is a little out of my price range. My max is $300 and from Amazon I get a 10% discount being an employee
This will be a at&t US carrier who I will be switching to. Boost is my current carrier and Verizon before that. In 2015 I remember issues with One Plus on at&t. Have those issues been addressed. I guess I'll be getting the sim kit from at&t and doing my hookup through the internet hopefully
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Well, I'm currently using my OP2 on AT&T and have never had a single issue with it!
Lenovo Zuk z1 perhaps
The only complain about my op2 is the finger print sensor not working I think problem it's humidity
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My only regret is not buying one sooner.
if it works its great, but if not.....
Hello.
I have plenty of regrets; but I'll keep to just bashing their customer service.
I have had to contact customer service twice now and I will take you through it step by step.
first time about 4 months ago my phone started acting up (less then six months after i bought it); all three buttons on the front stopped working, the screen could no longer auto adjust the brightness, for some reason the battery drained absurdly quick and the phone overheated. after about a week of jumping through a few hoops to prove tho phone had actually broken down and I wasn't just whining I got to send my phone for repair.
the first thing you'll notice is that they don't get back to you with status updates (except for trying to close your ticket due to inactivity every few days) so you have to ask all the time whats happening. two weeks after I sent them my phone I finally get an answer saying they repaired my phone and will send it back and they gave me a tracking number.
when I looked up that tracking number it turned out the phone had already been in my home town at the ups facility for four days, so just because they didn't feel like sending me updates I spent four more days then I had to without my phone. so not the worst customer experience I ever had but still not very good.
fast track forward to about two weeks ago.
the phone breaks down again, this time I can't make or receive neither phone calls or text messages and the 4g/3g internet connection stopped working. I try two separate sim cards in the phone and none of them work, I try my sim in my girlfriends phone and there it works fine, so it's definitely the OP2 that broke down.
so I open a ticket with Oneplus, the same thing happens this time with absolutely no contact from them, I have to nag and contact them over and over just to know whats going on, no one from Oneplus ever sends an update. and this time it's worse because now they haven't even gotten to the point where I send them my phone, its been over a week since I opened the ticket and NOTHING has happened like literally nothing, it's as if I haven't even opened a ticket. and this is very annoying because I had to borrow an ancient piece of **** replacement phone i the meantime.
it is really starting to look like I might have to buy a new phone from someone else because they can't seem to fix their broken piece of ****.
TL;DR
so I guess my tip to anyone who's is thinking of buying anything from Oneplus is : don't. even though yes the phone is great, its quick and easy and fabulous in many ways but if it breaks down (which it seems like a lot of them do), you might as well just buy a new phone because the customer service is horrid.
thanks for reading...
We are on the same boat OP. months passed until now but still I can't decide which should I get. :/
My preferences:
Good Community Support (future proof)
Great Camera and battery life
Almost stock experience
These are my choices:
Nexus 5x
OnePlus 2
Redmi Note 3 Pro
and now the OnePlus 3.
The nexus 5x is very affordable now but what holds me back from getting it was the 2gb ram and no dual sim capability, as I become lazy now to bring 2 phones and I used only small body bag going to work. and for the 1+2 I've read some issues like the dead home buttons and no fast charging support.

Got a new phone

So I've been mentioning a lot and I wound up ordering a new phone, the Nexus 5X. I know I asked in an earlier thread about it, but it meets everything that I am looking for. I got the 32GB variant (new in box) for $220. Not the 16GB, the 32GB from a private seller and negotiated it down.
I was looking for a smaller phone, not to mention I have Sprint so all options are pretty limited. Of course you know my opinion on the Pixel so I'll skip that. I will still keep my Nexus 6 though, I don't have any intention of selling it.....ever.
I looked at the Moto G4 and G4 Plus, but there is little development for it and the flashing process is a bigger pain. I don't mind the plastic build either and wish more phones were like this as I believe they are more durable than the aluminum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MC9Zc7uzd0
If I had GSM, I'd have gotten the One Plus 3. I'll admit the hardware isn't exactly what I want, but the customization is more important for me anyways.
Plus, most phones, your insurance is $100 if not more depending on what you are paying, plus a $70-$80 deductible. So for a potentially refurbished replacement you spent $190 or so.
The guy only had one, but for $220 for a brand new phone that works for me. I've seen some 16GB variants on ebay, but I'm concerned that might be too little space. Overall I'll see how it is, but it's better than paying $649 for a Pixel instead.
I bought the 5x a few months ago and have been using it as my daily driver for a couple months. Still really like my N6 and use it as media device but it's not the most pocketable phone. The 5x is a very good mid-range phone, especially at current prices. The fast fingerprint sensor, USB type C, camera and brighter screen more than make up for the lack of wireless charging and dual front speakers. Overall build quality is very solid. Sound quality is definitely lacking compared to my N6 and idol 3. Highly recommend flashing A.R.I.S.E. if you care about audio quality.
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I bought the 5x a few months ago and have been using it as my daily driver for a couple months. Still really like my N6 and use it as media device but it's not the most pocketable phone. The 5x is a very good mid-range phone, especially at current prices. The fast fingerprint sensor, USB type C, camera and brighter screen more than make up for the lack of wireless charging and dual front speakers. Overall build quality is very solid. Sound quality is definitely lacking compared to my N6 and idol 3. Highly recommend flashing A.R.I.S.E. if you care about audio quality.
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Thanks for the feedback. I know I'd have to take a backseat on the audio and RAM, but I don't mind. I checked my memory usage and I'm usually at 1.5-1.7GB so I don't think the RAM should be an issue. I don't care about the wireless charging since I never use that either. I'm keeping my N6 as a backup, but I'll still use it over WIFI and it's still a good phone......just not out and about so I'll leave it at home.
Looking forward to the 5X. What USB C cords did you end up getting ? I bought some cords, adapters and OTG for the 5X from amazon. I just picked a few that the Benson guy recommended so I'll have to re-do all my cords. For me the customization was more important than the hardware.
The insurance for the phone is another embedded cost...of course you don't have to get it, but most do so it's another cost again.
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Thanks for the feedback. I know I'd have to take a backseat on the audio and RAM, but I don't mind. I checked my memory usage and I'm usually at 1.5-1.7GB so I don't think the RAM should be an issue. I don't care about the wireless charging since I never use that either. I'm keeping my N6 as a backup, but I'll still use it over WIFI and it's still a good phone......just not out and about so I'll leave it at home.
Looking forward to the 5X. What USB C cords did you end up getting ? I bought some cords, adapters and OTG for the 5X from amazon. I just picked a few that the Benson guy recommended so I'll have to re-do all my cords. For me the customization was more important than the hardware.
The insurance for the phone is another embedded cost...of course you don't have to get it, but most do so it's another cost again.
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Haven't had any RAM management issues. Might be an issue with certain games but my usage is mostly music streaming, web browsing, Tapatalk and texting.
Audio through headphone jack and Bluetooth can be quite good with the right settings in Viper. The speaker quality is pretty bad compared to N6 but can be improved with the surround sound mod.
I bought the extra charger from Google store which came with a cable. Also got some Anker type C to micro adapters from Amazon.
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Lol this thread is hilarious cause I sold a 5x(that I got for 200 locally 32gb)
Hated it, it was slow down a lot, the front facing speaker was low and I missed calls, the volume on headset was not something to write home about. went to a 6p and returned cause I felt like the 6p just wasn't worth the 500 I paid for it(great phone though), went to a moto g4 plus and returned(the 617 is what kills that phone) then on cl today just looking around a Nexus 6 came up in great shape for 160 went and grab it and so far I'm liking it. It is big but at the same time it's something unique about it and the fact that it still solid and runs just as good as the 6p I have no complaints so far!
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I think you guys are doing an approach I'm likely to take: Don't get a brand-spanking new phone, but last year's great phone instead for less. The high price of the Pixel has really put me off, so I'm looking at last year's 5x or 6p too. Then next year, when the Pixel XL (or whatever) comes out, get the first Pixel.
At least this way I'll get a newer phone each year for a bit less.
The alternative is to look at the various Chinese phones. Some interesting stuff from Huawei, ZTE, OnePlus, etc. Supposedly premium phones for $300 less than the top Samsung/LG/Pixel phones.
DogzOfWar said:
The alternative is to look at the various Chinese phones. Some interesting stuff from Huawei, ZTE, OnePlus, etc. Supposedly premium phones for $300 less than the top Samsung/LG/Pixel phones.
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That's cool if you're on ATT/Tmo based carriers, but CDMA like Verizon and Sprint have strict rules on which phones will actually activate on the network. OP is on Sprint so no, he can't look at Huawei (except 6p), ZTE, OnePlus, etc...
Currently this is what Sprint will allow on their network:
iPhone 7 (Verizon only)
iPhone 7 Plus (Verizon only)
iPhone SE
iPhone 6s
iPhone 6s Plus
iPhone 6
iPhone 6 Plus
iPhone 5s (Verizon only)
iPhone 5c (Verizon only)
iPad Air 2
iPad Air
iPad Mini 4
iPad Mini 3
iPad Mini 2
iPad Pro
Google Pixel
Google Pixel XL
Nexus 6 (32 & 64 GB – black/white)
Nexus 5 (16 & 32 GB – black/white/red)
Nexus 5X (all versions)
Nexus 6P (all versions)
HTC One A9 (Sprint Version only)
Motorola X Pure Edition (16, 32 & 64 GB – all colors)
Samsung Galaxy S7 Special Edition
Samsung Galaxy S7 edge Special Edition
Moto G4
Moto G4 Plus
I made the decision to forgo the Pixel, so I won't be getting it. That's cool if others gets the phone, but it's not visually appealing and the cost is too high, plus with a phone that expensive you'll need insurance which is another added cost.
If I did not have CDMA, then I'd get the One Plus 3. The ZTE Axon 7 is quite nice as well, but both devices are not accepted on Sprint's network.
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Currently this is what Sprint will allow on their network:
iPhone 7 (Verizon only)
iPhone 7 Plus (Verizon only)
iPhone SE
iPhone 6s
iPhone 6s Plus
iPhone 6
iPhone 6 Plus
iPhone 5s (Verizon only)
iPhone 5c (Verizon only)
iPad Air 2
iPad Air
iPad Mini 4
iPad Mini 3
iPad Mini 2
iPad Pro
Google Pixel
Google Pixel XL
Nexus 6 (32 & 64 GB – black/white)
Nexus 5 (16 & 32 GB – black/white/red)
Nexus 5X (all versions)
Nexus 6P (all versions)
HTC One A9 (Sprint Version only)
Motorola X Pure Edition (16, 32 & 64 GB – all colors)
Samsung Galaxy S7 Special Edition
Samsung Galaxy S7 edge Special Edition
Moto G4
Moto G4 Plus
I made the decision to forgo the Pixel, so I won't be getting it. That's cool if others gets the phone, but it's not visually appealing and the cost is too high, plus with a phone that expensive you'll need insurance which is another added cost.
If I did not have CDMA, then I'd get the One Plus 3. The ZTE Axon 7 is quite nice as well, but both devices are not accepted on Sprint's network.
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I would have gotten a One Plus 3, but I'm on Verizon. Band 13 is only in my area so I don't feel like having 3G all the time lol My wife pre-ordered me a pixel xl 128 for my birthday, my n6 is starting to fritz out on me, so im going to trade it in
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Currently this is what Sprint will allow on their network:
iPhone 7 (Verizon only)
iPhone 7 Plus (Verizon only)
iPhone SE
iPhone 6s
iPhone 6s Plus
iPhone 6
iPhone 6 Plus
iPhone 5s (Verizon only)
iPhone 5c (Verizon only)
iPad Air 2
iPad Air
iPad Mini 4
iPad Mini 3
iPad Mini 2
iPad Pro
Google Pixel
Google Pixel XL
Nexus 6 (32 & 64 GB – black/white)
Nexus 5 (16 & 32 GB – black/white/red)
Nexus 5X (all versions)
Nexus 6P (all versions)
HTC One A9 (Sprint Version only)
Motorola X Pure Edition (16, 32 & 64 GB – all colors)
Samsung Galaxy S7 Special Edition
Samsung Galaxy S7 edge Special Edition
Moto G4
Moto G4 Plus
I made the decision to forgo the Pixel, so I won't be getting it. That's cool if others gets the phone, but it's not visually appealing and the cost is too high, plus with a phone that expensive you'll need insurance which is another added cost.
If I did not have CDMA, then I'd get the One Plus 3. The ZTE Axon 7 is quite nice as well, but both devices are not accepted on Sprint's network.
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Honestly and I'm not being facetious... Please consider switching to T-Mobile. The phone choices are much better, their coverage is way better (ex project Fi customer who got a taste of sprint alongside tmo) and it's only marginally more expensive.
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I would have gotten a One Plus 3, but I'm on Verizon. Band 13 is only in my area so I don't feel like having 3G all the time lol My wife pre-ordered me a pixel xl 128 for my birthday, my n6 is starting to fritz out on me, so im going to trade it in
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That's nice of your wife to pick up the Pixel XL, I hope you enjoy it. I'm kinda of shocked that you only have 1 of 3 bands that Verizon uses. They charge quite a bit compared to T-Mobile and Sprint. I guess I am spoiled that I live in Orange County and work in LA County, so both areas and all of SoCal are pretty much saturated with towers from all the carriers. CDMA does limit things though.
khanam said:
Honestly and I'm not being facetious... Please consider switching to T-Mobile. The phone choices are much better, their coverage is way better (ex project Fi customer who got a taste of sprint alongside tmo) and it's only marginally more expensive.
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Are you on the old plans, or using the new T-Mobile ONE for $70 ? I've been considering T-Mobile for awhile...............GSM would open up more options.
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That's nice of your wife to pick up the Pixel XL, I hope you enjoy it. I'm kinda of shocked that you only have 1 of 3 bands that Verizon uses. They charge quite a bit compared to T-Mobile and Sprint. I guess I am spoiled that I live in Orange County and work in LA County, so both areas and all of SoCal are pretty much saturated with towers from all the carriers. CDMA does limit things though.
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Verizon just took over a small regional carrier only 18 months ago. I live about an hour north of Yosemite in the mountains. They have been putting up real cell towers compared to the small towers the rc had on water tanks and the sort. I think in the last year Verizon has replaced over 70 cell towers up here.....Sprint has 0 coverage, Tmo only has coverage in the main town down to the central valley. ATT is 2nd in coverage, but I don't have service inside my house, only outside. Verizon prices isn't too bad for their coverage in the mountians, especially when your wife gets an employer discount of 17% (local government employee).
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Verizon just took over a small regional carrier only 18 months ago. I live about an hour north of Yosemite in the mountains. They have been putting up real cell towers compared to the small towers the rc had on water tanks and the sort. I think in the last year Verizon has replaced over 70 cell towers up here.....Sprint has 0 coverage, Tmo only has coverage in the main town down to the central valley. ATT is 2nd in coverage, but I don't have service inside my house, only outside. Verizon prices isn't too bad for their coverage in the mountians, especially when your wife gets an employer discount of 17% (local government employee).
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Interesting. Over here in Big Bear cell reception is totally dead once you get to a certain area. You are just better turning off the phone. Modesto isn't too far from you, does Modesto have signal from all the carriers?
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Interesting. Over here in Big Bear cell reception is totally dead once you get to a certain area. You are just better turning off the phone. Modesto isn't too far from you, does Modesto have signal from all the carriers?
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Modesto is about an 1 hour and 15 min drive, yeah all carriers work there. If you drive about 45 min from where i live, all 4 major carriers have service in Oakdale.
I forgot to share this story, but it was amusing to say the least......................
A few weeks ago, I saw a young college student with a Pixel (smaller). At first it looked like an iPhone, but I took a few glances then realized it did not have the home button and was running Android so it was a Pixel. I asked her if that was the new Pixel phone. She said it was and the scrolling is very smooth with no lag, new software, and she wanted it for the "pure Android" experience and just had to get it.
I said that's great to hear and I know how the lag can be and pulled out my Nexus 6 and showed it to her. She asked me what was Nexus.....she's never heard of it before. I told her it's "pure Android". She gave me a confused look then we parted ways.
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Are you on the old plans, or using the new T-Mobile ONE for $70 ? I've been considering T-Mobile for awhile...............GSM would open up more options.
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I'm on the old 6gb for each person in the family plan. 120+ taxes for 4 lines
mikeprius said:
I forgot to share this story, but it was amusing to say the least......................
A few weeks ago, I saw a young college student with a Pixel (smaller). At first it looked like an iPhone, but I took a few glances then realized it did not have the home button and was running Android so it was a Pixel. I asked her if that was the new Pixel phone. She said it was and the scrolling is very smooth with no lag, new software, and she wanted it for the "pure Android" experience and just had to get it.
I said that's great to hear and I know how the lag can be and pulled out my Nexus 6 and showed it to her. She asked me what was Nexus.....she's never heard of it before. I told her it's "pure Android". She gave me a confused look then we parted ways.
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I'm not even surprised that girl didn't even know what a Nexus is, the average shmo' doesn't even know what a Nexus is and I put 100% blame on Google for not using all those billions they have on advertising the Nexus line. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I been asked "what kind of phone is that?" when I've pulled it out in public or at work. I just tell them, they look at me with this confused look like I just spoke to them in a alien language and continue about their business, I just shake my head and curse Google.
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I'm not even surprised that girl didn't even know what a Nexus is, the average shmo' doesn't even know what a Nexus is and I put 100% blame on Google for not using all those billions they have on advertising the Nexus line. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I been asked "what kind of phone is that?" when I've pulled it out in public or at work. I just tell them, they look at me with this confused look like I just spoke to them in a alien language and continue about their business, I just shake my head and curse Google.
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Oh yeah I forgot to mention. She was typing on an apple laptop.
Sad thing is the pixel will be a lot of the main new stream consumer first taste at a stock Android phone.... Also think it's funny how all these big YouTubers didnt like the phone when it was revealed, then pull a 180 saying it's the best phone ever.....if Google wanted to do this I have no problem with it but I have a problem they basically waited three months before release and was like "oh yea the new phone will be called pixel and the price will start at a iphone 7 price tag....." 'oh and the Nexus line is done thank you for all your support"

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