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My nexus 5 gave up on recognizing sim card and now its time to buy one. Today I was looking on Amazon for my new phone and I came across zenfone 2 for $199, is this a good deal? How do you compare with nexus 5? How good is this on T-Mobile network? Any other recommendation for any other phone under $250?
ZF2 is better than Nexus 5. But if I were you I would wait the Nexus 5 2015. Which is going to release 2 or 3 months. Probably. But If you say that I can not wait till the new nexus arrives than go and buy a ZF2.
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Since they said the phone doesn't see the SIM card anymore, I doubt they can wait.
Another inexpensive option would be the Moto G 2015 model. It looks great for the price also. The ZenFone 2 is nice (but I'd spend the extra $100 for the next model up with better processor, more RAM and more storage).
go for it .... u won't regret but $299 option is better in terms of speed .... after using nexus u will understand the difference between nexus and budget range devices ...... but u can even have moto g 3rd gen $220 one or else go for its repairing if possible
yes for me
I absolutely love this phone, everyone seems to complain about the battery but for me it's fine. The quick charge resolves having to wait if your battery is drained.
Bang for the buck, hands down the ZF2, you won't find a phone with these specs at that price not to mention the dual-sim feature. I have two Moto G 3rd Gens, they are nice and battery is better but still no contest compared to my ZF2. Also, Asus has been pretty good at releasing firmware updates so that's a good sign.
Don't forget, forums always contain mostly negative comments so it's hard to base your decision on reading. Most people with positive comments don't really post their experience unless you're a tech junky like me
I was on nexus 5 since the screen broke. I decided to buy this one over a xiaomi mi4 and a meizu mx5. The experience in terms of quantity of tools or rom is poor compared to the google one but...
Battery life is better
Screen is better
Signal is better
Faster
Bigger
Heavier
If you don't care about the last two points is the phone you're looking for
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mak101 said:
My nexus 5 gave up on recognizing sim card and now its time to buy one. Today I was looking on Amazon for my new phone and I came across zenfone 2 for $199, is this a good deal? How do you compare with nexus 5? How good is this on T-Mobile network? Any other recommendation for any other phone under $250?
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I recommend b and H photo. 2day free delivery and no hassel returns. Great store.
I am using 199 version on T-Mobile, works great.
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keikkio said:
I was on nexus 5 since the screen broke. I decided to buy this one over a xiaomi mi4 and a meizu mx5. The experience in terms of quantity of tools or rom is poor compared to the google one but...
Battery life is better
Screen is better
Signal is better
Faster
Bigger
Heavier
If you don't care about the last two points is the phone you're looking for
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Agreed, I actually like the bloatware in this phone, they are somewhat useful, pclink is great. At least Asus gave us the option to turn them off in "autostart" more then what I can say for most other companies/couriers. Tools and rom can be changed, so I'm not too worry that Asus will improve on those.
I'm with anyone here I love this phone but buy a case as I have the higher end model and it's costing me 200CAD to replace the screen
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Thanks all for your responses, I will be trying to flash ROM on my Nexus 5 to see if that works or I will order ZF2 and I dont want to spend over $250, how much you spend on your phone you have to buy a new one in 2 years so now on I have decided no more than $250 on a phone
dakunclear said:
I'm with anyone here I love this phone but buy a case as I have the higher end model and it's costing me 200CAD to replace the screen
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Sorry, I don't understand, you want to buy a case or your screen broke? please clarify. That's norm for screen damage repair, cost the same for S5 or Iphones, wait til you see what it cost to replace a S6 Edge phone.... ouch.
damenc said:
Sorry, I don't understand, you want to buy a case or your screen broke? please clarify. That's norm for screen damage repair, cost the same for S5 or Iphones, wait til you see what it cost to replace a S6 Edge phone.... ouch.
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I'm just saying buy a case lol screen replacement is usually about 50% cost of the device but if you own the 16gb model then you might as well get a new one
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dakunclear said:
I'm just saying buy a case lol screen replacement is usually about 50% cost of the device but if you own the 16gb model then you might as well get a new one
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Ah, gotcha lol yeah, screen replacement on any smartphone these days is not cheap.
I'm waiting for the 5.1 update or CM12 before I buy this phone. My current mobile is still working fine for basic functionality, so I can afford to wait
I have an HTC One which I'm looking to replace anytime soon because the battery is slowly dying. My first choice is the Zenfone2 64gb w/ 4gb ram next would be the Moto G 2015. I no longer want a flagship as they become obsolete after a year plus mid-range devices has a lot to offer nowadays. Seems like a lot of phone manufacturers are now targeting the mid-range area offering a great range of powerful phones at a cheaper price.
One thing that's holding me back in buying the Zenfone 2 is it was made by Asus. I have a Nexus 7 2013 which is no more than a year old with lots of issues like the unresponsive touchscreen, multi-touch issues, broken auto-rotate. All of which are experienced by a lot of Nexus 7 owners. What I couldn't handle is the nightmare of going thru Asus's after sales service.
Is there anyone here kind enough to give their insights about the current issues they have on this phone? I've read somewhere that battery life is an issue. Any defective batches/hardware issues or anything around that line that I should know before actually deciding to get this phone? As much as possible, I don't want to go thru their customer service ever again.
Kindly post the issues here as once I get this phone, I can no longer return it because consumer protection law sucks in my country. I only have 1 week outright replacement if the phone is defective after that I'm gonna be stuck with this phone forever
chickentuna said:
I have an HTC One which I'm looking to replace anytime soon because the battery is slowly dying. My first choice is the Zenfone2 64gb w/ 4gb ram next would be the Moto G 2015. I no longer want a flagship as they become obsolete after a year plus mid-range devices has a lot to offer nowadays. Seems like a lot of phone manufacturers are now targeting the mid-range area offering a great range of powerful phones at a cheaper price.
One thing that's holding me back in buying the Zenfone 2 is it was made by Asus. I have a Nexus 7 2013 which is no more than a year old with lots of issues like the unresponsive touchscreen, multi-touch issues, broken auto-rotate. All of which are experienced by a lot of Nexus 7 owners. What I couldn't handle is the nightmare of going thru Asus's after sales service.
Is there anyone here kind enough to give their insights about the current issues they have on this phone? I've read somewhere that battery life is an issue. Any defective batches/hardware issues or anything around that line that I should know before actually deciding to get this phone? As much as possible, I don't want to go thru their customer service ever again.
Kindly post the issues here as once I get this phone, I can no longer return it because consumer protection law sucks in my country. I only have 1 week outright replacement if the phone is defective after that I'm gonna be stuck with this phone forever
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I ordered one for a relative (16GB/2GB Ram version) and its been fine so far. If you look through this forum and at reviews the main areas where the phone is lacking are the battery life (can be poor but generally inconsistent), not a great camera and the additional bloat apps that come preinstalled (some can be uninstalled or disabled or if you root you can remove them all together/freeze them).
I think all handsets have the odd bad batch here and there and there are some who are unlucky where they have a fault that means they have to return the device. I think if the battery life was sorted, it would help ease a lot of fears and make a lot of users more content. It can vary from person to person and it might not even bother you. Fingers crossed it can be improved in the next major update.
The new Motorola G looks decent, still waiting to see more in depth reviews but it seems to be getting good reports in the battery department. If I was buying it I would have to go for the 16GB/2GB ram model as 8GB is just not enough anymore, 16GB is just about manageable. Motorola should also provide decent updates I've been pretty tempted to get the 64GB/4GB ram Zenfone 2 myself, I dont particularly need an new device but it just seems such an attractive offer. I currently have a Oneplus One which is great and has the benefit of having an unlockable bootloader and plenty of roms to choose from. Currently I have switched back to a CM11(kitkat) rom for the best battery life as Lollipop just doesnt seem as good, so it doesnt just seem to be a problem specific to the Zenfone 2.
I'm not sure how much my rambling has helped, but at the moment I'm just hanging tight for now and scouring XDA every other day to see how things pan out for the ZF2! :silly:
mak101 said:
Thanks all for your responses, I will be trying to flash ROM on my Nexus 5 to see if that works or I will order ZF2 and I dont want to spend over $250, how much you spend on your phone you have to buy a new one in 2 years so now on I have decided no more than $250 on a phone
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The phone itself is fine. I like the fast-charging feature, and the battery is definitely better than my Nexus4, and it's pretty snappy (I have the 2GB version).
BUT, and this is a big but, Asus' customer support is just plain awful:
My 1-month-old phone started doing random shutdowns at least once a day (it won't even turn itself back on, I would manually turn it on again after noticing my phone's been off for the past 2 hours). After multiple emails back and forth they issued an RMA and I had to send the phone at my expense. Phone got back 10 days later, result? the issue is still there, and they're still avoiding sending me a replacement.
In my opinion buy from a company that respect their customer and replace their faulty phone, like what Google did for my Nexus 4.
Coming from an iPhone 6 (Originally all Android) and going to this phone, I'd have to say I love it... I may not be in love with it, but I love it Everything is pretty smooth, the camera is good for a phone camera (I've taken some really good outside video with it), and the expandable storage is great with an already large size internal storage. I'd say to anyone who is on the fence to buy it. Yes it's not an iPhone, but it's also not iOS.
Everyone seem's to be looking at phones like the idol 4..the oneplus 3...but all the phones I saw mentioned were in the $200-$400 range and the $200 model was rather barebones...now I'm not a gamer and I originally purchased the idol 3 because the phone was CHEAP and had the features I wanted. I decided to review a couple of phone...both cheaper than the $200 I paid for my idol 3 but can still be considered prospects.
The idol 3 has come a long way with marshmallow but the development community is still tiny and alcatel provides zero support. The removal of fastboot when installing marshmallow is another example of their ....I want to say ineptness because why cripple a phone that is sold unlocked.....if you use the marshmallow 6.0 radio you lose band 12 lte....if you flash the 5.0.2 radio you get it back.
The first phone I tested basically came across as an Idol 4.7 except it had a 5.5 screen. The ZTE Zmax 2 is currently selling for $60 at bestbuy [ http://slickdeals.net/f/8791267-at-t-gophone-zte-zmax-2-bestbuy-59-99?v=1&p=85689931 ] as an "AT&T Go Phone" but is easily unlocked to run on other carriers. It comes with Lollipop but folks have already found "soft roots" for it and I imagine before to long marshmallow will be available.
The basic specs are:
Qualcomm MSM8916 Snapdragon 410 [ Quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A53 ]
16GB Internal Memory
2GB RAM
MicroSD Card Slot (up to 64GB)
5.5" 1280x720 Display [720p]
8MP Rear & 2MP Front Cameras
4G LTE
Removable 3000 mAh Battery
Android 5.1 Lollipop
Full specs available at: http://www.gsmarena.com/zte_zmax_2-7572.php
You might like: http://www.tomsguide.com/us/zte-zmax-2,review-3582.html
For unlocking, see the Wiki board in thread [ Everything in the wiki was NOT written by me so when you see "I tried this" in there it's the original author. ]:
http://slickdeals.net/f/8851267-16g...ct-smartphone-60-free-shipping?src=SiteSearch
For case:
http://slickdeals.net/f/8791267-at-t-gophone-zte-zmax-2-bestbuy-59-99?v=1&p=85689931#post85689931
Tempered glass:
http://r.ebay.com/eiSfaR
Low light pictures using Open Camera with Expsoure adjustment:
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=85985455&postcount=472
Recommended apps to get *as close as possible* to LG double knock feature.
-- Nova launcher prime -- Has double knock to turn off the screen
-- Gravity Screen (Plexnor) -- Comes with tons of useful features like keeping the Screen on by motion, turning the screen off by placing it flat on a tablet, pocket sensor etc.. But I am only using the Wave to unlock (proximity sensor to unlock)
Double knock to turn on the screen -- I did tons of research.. Not possible. So don't waste your time..only LG has implemented this without draining the battery (that is, without having to keep a black screen On waiting for user input).
Rooting -- not available at the moment because no one has been able to crack the ZTE's locked Bootloader.. so don't fall a prey to fictitious links that claim a root of this phone. On the +ve side, haven't felt the need to root till now. I read a post that on XDA there is some way to disable even system apps without rooting, but haven't felt the need or tried it so far.
How to unlock this phone:
1. Do not turn the phone on, don't even open the box.
2. Go to this web site: https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/?#/
3. Check I have read and agree to the eligibility requirements to unlock my device.
4. This is super important, check Non-AT&T Mobility Customer
5. Fill out the form, including the IMEI number which is located on the Box
6. Submit
7. You will be sent an email with a link to confirm
8. Open your email and confirm
9. Anywhere from 1 hour to 48 hours you will be given an unlock code. It took 8 hours for me to receive mine.
10. Open up the box, put in your SIM from your Carrier and turn it on.
11. You will be prompted for the unlock code
12. Put it in and continue.
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Firmware Update (credit: jchu14)
If you're using the Zmax 2 on a non-AT&T network, don't throw away the ATT GO prepaid sim card! You can use the sim card to obtain software update for free.
The most current version is b17. Usually if you have a non-ATT sim card in the phone, when you check for sofware update in 'settings', you won't be able to see updates available. You need to have an active sim card in the phone to activate.
To activate the sim card, go to att's website [att.com] and enter the sim card number printed on the sim card itself. Go through the activation process (need email address and zip code). When it asks you to put in an IMEI: put in all zeros. When it asks you to choose a plan, it doesn't matter what you choose. I picked the 25 cent/min plan even though all other plans should work (you don't have to pay anything regardless of what plan you pick).
Go though the activation process and eventually you'll assigned a phone number and your sim is activated! Stick that sim card in the phone and then check for a software update in 'settings'. You should be notified of an available update. If it tells you to wait 24 hours before you can check again, you can manually change the date and time of your phone in 'settings > date and time'. Set it forward a day, then you can again check for software update. Generally the phone will update to b16 first. After b16 is applied, you may have to check and roll the date forward twice before it'll see and apply the b17 update.
There is no need to actually put any money into the account attached to the sim card. However, this sim card will expire in 60 days if you don't put in any money into the account. So maybe it's not a bad choice if you want to hold on to the sim card inactivated until a major update is available.
Confirmed in AT&T Forums, these conditions MUST be met.
For the Update to proceed automatically, the phone conditions have to be as follows:
1. 100% Battery Capacity
2. Charger Connected
3. Active AT&T SIM
I use Cricket MVNO and followed these steps in the wiki to successfully update. (lowprice)
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T-Mobile Network compatibility:
* 4G LTE Band 4 (primary) AWS 1700/2100 - YES
* 4G LTE Band 2 (secondary) PCS 1900 - YES
* 4G LTE Band 12 (new primary/upcoming) 700-A - YES!
* 4G HSPA+ Band 4 (deprecated) AWS 1700/2100 - NO
* 4G HSPA+ Band 2 (new primary) PCS 1900 - YES
* 2G EDGE Band 2 (primary) PCS 1900 - YES
T-Mobile Features:
* WiFi Calling - NO
* VoLTE - NO
* RCS - NO
* Tethering/HotSpot - NO native, YES use 3rd party app (ES File Explorer)
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The second phone is a bit of a special deal...currently Amazon is selling the BLU R1 HD for $60 [I'd get the Zmax 2 over the BLU which is smaller and has ads for the same price ] and the Moto G4 for $155. Both of those include a $50 price drop (and a 2nd $25 off for the Moto G4) because they are ONLY for prime members and they show ad's on the lockscreen. Would you let amazon display ad's if it saved you $75 off a phone? I decided I would...here is the deal: https://slickdeals.net/f/8881879-pr...-50-moto-g-4th-gen-from-125-more-free-s-h?v=1
Basic Specs:
Moto G (4th Gen) Specs:
5.5" 1920x1080 IPS display
1.5Gz Qualcomm Snapdragon 617 Octo-Core CPU
2GB RAM
MicroSD Card Slot (up to 128GB)
13MP rear + 5MP front cameras
3000mAh battery
Android 6.0 Marshmallow
Compatible w/ AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint & Verizon
16GB OR 32GB (+$30)
Detailed Specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g4-8103.php
Final out the door price on these: $125 for the 16gb G4 and $155 for the 32gb g4. I opted to pay the $30 extra to get the 32gb..but will also be dropping in a 128gb microsd. Both beat the original sale price of the Idol 3......I'm curious to see what others think. Please don't turn this into a flame war. This is just to compare how the idol 3 stacks up to recent phones at or below it's original price range. What was flagship a couple years ago is now seen as a "bargain phone".
You might like this review: http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/mobi...6-review-the-best-budget-smartphone-ever-made
Damn, that is a sweet price for the Moto 4G.
Now I am wondering if I should have waited a bit instead of paying 90€ to repait my Idol's cracked screen after it randomly broke in my hands.
I feel tempted to get a G4 even so... mainly for the gigantic dev community it will surely have.
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thanks for the thread
to be honest ive had mostly what you may call top end phones (most of the flagships up to 2015) but i had too many contracts at one point and i ended up selling most of them (still have the htc m9 and z3)
but the girlfriend uses my m9 and my dad uses my z3 and i was looking just for a cheap phone just till the end of my contract but wanted some good features like (great display and sound and just to run nice)
i wasn't expecting much with the idol 3 but i was surprised just how good it was for the money i paid £180 brand new
and for me the display and sound beat both my z3 and m9 so for a budget phone i think that's good
i just wish we had more development and support for the idol 3 but at least it isnt non existent
and i agree with the marshmallow builds at the moment there a pain but again at least we getting them
all in all i dont think even today there much of a better phone for the value and when we have a final mm builds up with no bugs ect i think we will have a much snappier and better camera too just to add to the list
Nice. Also, the honor 5x and idol 3 are nearly identical aside from the aluminum case the honor has. Same hardware specs. But the idol 3 speakers are way way better (I have used both) and calls sound better too.
Not bad for an almost year old phone heh, its def still worth purchasing now, esp at 70 less than the honor 5x at cricket price.
That zte looks freaking sweet for the price tho heh. I keep finding myself asking why pay more than 200ish for a phone unless u really need the insane camera quality the high end guys have. For general use the canera on the idol 3 is great. Who actually needs freaking 4k res on a phone sized screen or 6gb of ram? Sure big internal storage is nice, but SD cards are crazy cheap lol. My 64gb evo plus was 20 bucks !
I also really liked the blue vivo 5, great specs and beautiful construction. Unfortunately there not much going on for it ROM wise, blu is terrible with updates, and there is no way to get band 12 on it making it virtually useless for Tampa bay gsm carriers.
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Nexus 5x is only $199 through Project Fi.
seabro01 said:
Nexus 5x is only $199 through Project Fi.
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But you can only use it with Google Phi. That's a bit of fine print they don't tell you. Got a friend who tried to use his 5x on different carrier from Phi and it wouldn't read sim, even with rooting. Google knows how to get people so watch out.
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But you can only use it with Google Phi. That's a bit of fine print they don't tell you. Got a friend who tried to use his 5x on different carrier from Phi and it wouldn't read sim, even with rooting. Google knows how to get people so watch out.
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Pretty sure that would be illegal. That was the whole point behind the recent laws passed that REQUIRE a provider to provide an unlock method for a device that's paid in full so it could be used with other carriers.
*update* Just went and read the FAQ at Project FI and there's no mods to the phone..they are vanilla...it specifically addresses that you can leave project fi after the device has been paid in full with no contract. People can bring their OWN phones (nexus 5x, nexus 6 etc..on specific models because the phones they are using work on ALL the major carriers) and just order a project FI sim which pretty much settles it.
famewolf said:
Everyone seem's to be looking at phones like the idol 4..the oneplus 3...but all the phones I saw mentioned were in the $200-$400 range and the $200 model was rather barebones...now I'm not a gamer and I originally purchased the idol 3 because the phone was CHEAP and had the features I wanted.
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That is the same reason I bought the Alcatel Idol 3 as well. It was the best value proposition I'd seen since the Nexus 4 (and it actually surpassed the Nexus 4 in every way other than updates).
The Moto G4 (and G4+) look like the new kings of budget smartphones in my opinion. With that said, I think that the areas where the phones excel are still only a few shades better than the Idol 3. OTOH, when I upgraded from my N4 to my Idol 3, it was the equivalent of upgrading to a flagship in terms of added functionality/compatibility.
If I didn't already have an Idol 3, I would definitely be giving the G4 a hard look. Overall though, I'm not sure whether I would hypothetically pull the trigger because the phone design is the same generic Moto feel. (I will give credit for the ability to switch the back as a cool option though). Also, I don't like the fact that there is no NFC and no fingerprint scanner (on the cheaper model) which makes me question the future proofing of the device. Overall, this is probably the best budget phone out there, but it is nothing that differentiates the phone in my opinion.
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But you can only use it with Google Phi. That's a bit of fine print they don't tell you. Got a friend who tried to use his 5x on different carrier from Phi and it wouldn't read sim, even with rooting. Google knows how to get people so watch out.
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Your friend must have broken something. There are a lot of people who bought the 5X for the $199 Project Fi price, then canceled Project Fi and took it to their regular carrier
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That is the same reason I bought the Alcatel Idol 3 as well. It was the best value proposition I'd seen since the Nexus 4 (and it actually surpassed the Nexus 4 in every way other than updates).
The Moto G4 (and G4+) look like the new kings of budget smartphones in my opinion. With that said, I think that the areas where the phones excel are still only a few shades better than the Idol 3. OTOH, when I upgraded from my N4 to my Idol 3, it was the equivalent of upgrading to a flagship in terms of added functionality/compatibility.
If I didn't already have an Idol 3, I would definitely be giving the G4 a hard look. Overall though, I'm not sure whether I would hypothetically pull the trigger because the phone design is the same generic Moto feel. (I will give credit for the ability to switch the back as a cool option though). Also, I don't like the fact that there is no NFC and no fingerprint scanner (on the cheaper model) which makes me question the future proofing of the device. Overall, this is probably the best budget phone out there, but it is nothing that differentiates the phone in my opinion.
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Your friend must have broken something. There are a lot of people who bought the 5X for the $199 Project Fi price, then canceled Project Fi and took it to their regular carrier
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Performance and screen on battery time are still going to be a major issue for some folks...marshmallow helped alot with performance but dropped screen on time to around 4 hours....even with the $60 budget ZTE Zmax2 I picked up which has the same cpu/storage/memory as the idol 3 4.7 but a 5.5 screen I'm getting 6+ hours of screen on time showing as a minimum. For some the fact the moto g4 will have a HUGE development community can also be an important issue. Alcatel has totally missed the ball on working with the community to get positive free advertising.
So the general consensus seems to be......yeah there are phones out there cheaper than the idol 3 was that have some specs that are close (but improved) but the idol 3 is still doing good enough FOR NOW.
That being said...I purchased both the zmax2 AND the moto g4...more than likely the moto g4 will become my primary phone however I fully intend to continue working with the idol and zmax2. I'm personally looking forward to @The Marionette's "aosp-ify" Marshmallow Rom.
Your friend must have broken something. There are a lot of people who bought the 5X for the $199 Project Fi price, then canceled Project Fi and took it to their regular carrier
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Unless they changed something he got the 5x when google first came with it for 199 with phi, but he also lives in Kansas so that may be an issue too. I've got Cricket/ATT and I barely got any service out there.
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famewolf said:
Pretty sure that would be illegal. That was the whole point behind the recent laws passed that REQUIRE a provider to provide an unlock method for a device that's paid in full so it could be used with other carriers.
*update* Just went and read the FAQ at Project FI and there's no mods to the phone..they are vanilla...it specifically addresses that you can leave project fi after the device has been paid in full with no contract. People can bring their OWN phones (nexus 5x, nexus 6 etc..on specific models because the phones they are using work on ALL the major carriers) and just order a project FI sim which pretty much settles it.
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okly dokly then. He lives in KS so I'm guessing he just doesn't receive service from other carriers where he lives then. He told me the other sims didn't work, but I was out there last weekend for family reunion and I got no service in town.
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Unless they changed something he got the 5x when google first came with it for 199 with phi, but he also lives in Kansas so that may be an issue too. I've got Cricket/ATT and I barely got any service out there.
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okly dokly then. He lives in KS so I'm guessing he just doesn't receive service from other carriers where he lives then. He told me the other sims didn't work, but I was out there last weekend for family reunion and I got no service in town.
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The confusing part of that was I thought from reading that Project FI piggybacked on the other networks....so if it has service then he should be able to identify what network/towers/bands he's using and find the local provider that uses those.
Oh no famewolf is switching primaries. Will the new moto your getting sound as good as the idol 3 does? Listening to music while closing at work was a huge factor for me in buying the phone, and it did not disappoint.
Even the honor 5x which I almost spent 70 bucks more on did not sound nearly as good. Compared to my managers s7, hers is louder but idol 3 has way better definition. I haven't found any other midrange phone that even comes close.
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Oh no famewolf is switching primaries. Will the new moto your getting sound as good as the idol 3 does? Listening to music while closing at work was a huge factor for me in buying the phone, and it did not disappoint.
Even the honor 5x which I almost spent 70 bucks more on did not sound nearly as good. Compared to my managers s7, hers is louder but idol 3 has way better definition. I haven't found any other midrange phone that even comes close.
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Maybe not, although the moto g4 does come with dolby however realistically I do all my listening via bluetooth...in the car...on a bluetooth speaker....what it will do is let me go out all day for doctor's appointments and errands and not have to carry a charger with me or if I do have to I can get an hours worth of juice in about 15 minutes....I am however adding quick charge receivers to the idol and the zmax2 so they can charge wirelessly.
Oh OK! If new moto battery life is gonna be significantly better than a idol 3 on xda ROM I'm interested too! Friend just had her $600 iphone stolen and she's lookin for something cheaper this time
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Well i LOVE my LG G2 (Verizon), but my LCD just crapped out and I figure Id just upgrade to a new phone, I use straight talk so I can Use almost any variant, I just went with Verizon cuz service was better around here and It came pre unlocked. Im considering a G3 or really want the G4, I cant afford a G5 Id like it under $200, what would you do? Switch to a G3, or skip the 3 and Goto G4, or is their something better then LG in that price range?? Its gotta be rootable (what isnt these days) i love the IR sensor, I love everything about my G2 so i want to match as many features and specs as I can, Also a Removeable battery and SD card slot are always nice..
Whats everyones opinions? I need to buy ASAP. I hate flipping my G2 like a ninja with a sword just to navigate normal everyday use.
Thanks guys, looking forward to ALL opinions. Im open for any ideas.
I switched from LG G2 to Nexus 5X, which is very close to a G4 under hood.
I don't regret it. A very good phone for under 300$ and always up to date. Google promised updates the next two years. So that the 5X will get the follower of N next year. The daily usage performance is significantly better than the G2.
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The LG smartphones are becoming increasingly developer unfriendly. For example, the LG G4 AT&T and US991 version still have locked bootloaders. I switched to Nexus 5X, and it seems fine. It's a great value right now because US-based vendors are selling the 5X with 32GB for under 250USD on ebay. I guess it's part of the clearance for the next generation model. The deals on the unlocked Motorola X Pure and the new Moto G4 are also looking good. In general, I don't think I'll ever want to buy a carrier-locked, carrier-branded smartphone again. It's just not worth the trouble.
PS: the old LG G2 also continues running strong..
I myself am patiently waiting on the ZTE Axon 7.
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The LG smartphones are becoming increasingly developer unfriendly. For example, the LG G4 AT&T and US991 version still have locked bootloaders. I switched to Nexus 5X, and it seems fine. It's a great value right now because US-based vendors are selling the 5X with 32GB for under 250USD on ebay. I guess it's part of the clearance for the next generation model. The deals on the unlocked Motorola X Pure and the new Moto G4 are also looking good. In general, I don't think I'll ever want to buy a carrier-locked, carrier-branded smartphone again. It's just not worth the trouble.
PS: the old LG G2 also continues running strong..
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Thanks for your promp replys. I see the Nexus 5X is a hit, I have looked at that one. Why dont they like putting SD card slots on phones anymore?? I dont understand why tey are abandoning that simple luxury. What are some other runner ups with these devices? Are any of the Motorola Droids that good? I want to have the same if not better RAM, and Processors as my G2. I fairly bigger screen would be nice. They pop out so many different models of phones a year its hard to keep track of them anymore!
T-Mobile unlocked G4 on eBay is always around $180 for new other or refurbished condition.
Hardware wise, G4 is way better than 5X.
Personally I would said g4 or moto x pure are better choice.
N5X has very good software development. But the lower ram, the lousy camera, 1080p display, lack of SD card, plastic construction, poor sound output make it a meh phone.
It is the most dispointng Nexus phone ever...
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T-Mobile unlocked G4 on eBay is always around $180 for new other or refurbished condition.
Hardware wise, G4 is way better than 5X.
Personally I would said g4 or moto x pure are better choice.
N5X has very good software development. But the lower ram, the lousy camera, 1080p display, lack of SD card, plastic construction, poor sound output make it a meh phone.
It is the most dispointng Nexus phone ever...
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I know their is a difference between my G2 (VS980 Variant) and and all the others, like the cases have to be special. Verizon hides the hidden service menu and, its like the GSM versions AT&T+T-Mobile, and even Sprint's LS980, are all different then the Verizon VS980 ....If i were to get G4, what variant would you sugget? Is Verizon different on it too? I use a Verizon SIM from straight talk but I would consider switching to AT&T because even without getting throttled I hear the Verizon caps HIGH SPEED as well..... Would CDMA Verizon sim work on a AT&T variant G4?
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Thanks for your promp replys. I see the Nexus 5X is a hit, I have looked at that one. Why dont they like putting SD card slots on phones anymore?? I dont understand why tey are abandoning that simple luxury.
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Isn't the answer very obvious? The entire industry, the Googles, the Apples, the Verizons, and the Hollywoods of the world don't want you to have much local storage so that you just pay more for bandwidth and for cloud storage. They want you to store all backups on the cloud. They want you to save and the access all your pictures and videos from the cloud. Besides, having less storage means it's gonna be less likely that you will get the movies and TV shows off bittorrent in order to watch it on your phone or tablet. Having said that, 32GB of storage is fine for my needs on a smartphone. Maybe somewhat tight, but still fine. Although I do see the appeal of more storage. I have a 40GB of music in compressed format, and it would certainly be nice to have it all on my phone.
What are some other runner ups with these devices? Are any of the Motorola Droids that good? I want to have the same if not better RAM, and Processors as my G2. I fairly bigger screen would be nice. They pop out so many different models of phones a year its hard to keep track of them anymore!
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There are good deals on the 2015 Motorola X Pure, which is the same generation device as Nexus 5X, but with more RAM, bigger screen, and storage card slot. There are good sales on those. Even brick and mortar stores are selling them for under 300USD right now. On the con side, I read in a few reviews that Moto X Pure has below average screen brightness and poor battery life. The other day I saw a Moto X Pure side by side with Moto G, and the Moto X Pure had noticeably dimmer screen. I even set its brightness to the max, and it still looked dimmer than Moto G (2015). The screen looked good for indoor use, but poor for outdoors. And so I thought I'd rather have better screen and battery life and went for the 5X.
Also, interesting deals can be had on the Oneplus smartphones. The original Oneplus One smartphone is still a great smartphone is still sells new for 250USD for the 64GB version. It is based on the proven Snapdragon 801 SoC and has very good battery life. I recommended Oneplus One to everyone I know, and by today's standards it's still pretty much a perfect smartphone. The latest Oneplus 3 is also a great value, even at 400USD, but both don't have a storage card slot. The Oneplus 3 uses the Snapdragon 820 SoC (also used in LG G5) which is massively faster than the SD800-810 used in LG G2 through G4 (as well as any Nexus smartphone up to this date).
The new Moto G are also fine budget phones and have great features, but it's ridiculous that they have SoC that by most measures is still slower than the Snapdragon 800/801 we got in LG G2 and G3 years ago. The entry level Snapdragon SoCs are still kinda poor. I am wondering when Snapdragon creates a budget SoC based on the 820 family.
Why not just upgrade to Oneplus 3?
At least here in Europe (Lithuania)
5x - 250 euro
G4 - 360 euro
Moto Style - 380 euro
Oneplus 3 - 400 euro.
I think it's the current wisest choise to upgrade from LG G2.
I'm still hanging on my G2, just because I don't want to sell it for pennies..
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Why not just upgrade to Oneplus 3?
At least here in Europe (Lithuania)
5x - 250 euro
G4 - 360 euro
Moto Style - 380 euro
Oneplus 3 - 400 euro.
I think it's the current wisest choise to upgrade from LG G2.
I'm still hanging on my G2, just because I don't want to sell it for pennies..
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U. S. Prices of these phones are different than Euro , especially when one could find good deals on eBay.
For example, like new G4 is $180 , while 5x is $200 or more...
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I know their is a difference between my G2 (VS980 Variant) and and all the others, like the cases have to be special. Verizon hides the hidden service menu and, its like the GSM versions AT&T+T-Mobile, and even Sprint's LS980, are all different then the Verizon VS980 ....If i were to get G4, what variant would you sugget? Is Verizon different on it too? I use a Verizon SIM from straight talk but I would consider switching to AT&T because even without getting throttled I hear the Verizon caps HIGH SPEED as well..... Would CDMA Verizon sim work on a AT&T variant G4?
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I assume you are using straight talk. Straight talk uses both Verizon tower or AT&T tower. You need to call straight talk to find out if your local area is using Verizon or AT&T tower.
For straight talk, I believe Verizon sim won't work on a AT&T/tmobile G4. But a AT&T sim would work on both Verizon g4 or AT&T/Tmobile g4.
So you need to ask your carrier, straight talk, to decide which version of g4 you want to buy.
And if rom development is important to you, you would also want to check the G4 forum to see which variant of g4 has unlocked bootloader.
Some early patches of G4 suffers bootloop. If you decide on buying g4, make sure they are manufactured in late 2015 or later.
The G2 will be my last Android device for a while, im done with the way OEMs update software. Apple, here I go
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The G2 will be my last Android device for a while, im done with the way OEMs update software. Apple, here I go
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I could never switch to the dark side of Apple. I have an iphone 4 i got given to me, and ive never even turned it on yet. Its in the drawer with an LG volt, Galaxy Tab 4, Nokia Lumia Windows 8.1 , UMX, Visual Land Prestige Elite 8 tablet, Galaxy S3, ZTE Reef, Kindle Fire HD 7, some more random devices, and soon to be a LG G2. But I will buy a new digitizer and fix the G2.....
I really dont have the $300+ at the moment to throw on a new phone, the wife wants an LG Stylo of sorts for her Virgin Mobile service, and its her birthday in oh crap 3 days haha So I have to really get on it here. I dont want to get a G3 even tho they are so cheap, But only used G4's are under $200.... Ive looked at so many phones this week its crazy. I just cant pull the trigger, I keep doing a loop. I get pulled tword he G4, then look at the prices, and see everyones Bootloops, and Screen problems, and i get leary, So i check out the phones mentioned, and I like them, then the price pushes me back the G4 and it repeats all over again...
Im gonna have to fork out the cash or settle for something less... Its such a heard decision....
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I could never switch to the dark side of Apple. I have an iphone 4 i got given to me, and ive never even turned it on yet. Its in the drawer with an LG volt, Galaxy Tab 4, Nokia Lumia Windows 8.1 , UMX, Visual Land Prestige Elite 8 tablet, Galaxy S3, ZTE Reef, Kindle Fire HD 7, some more random devices, and soon to be a LG G2. But I will buy a new digitizer and fix the G2.....
I really dont have the $300+ at the moment to throw on a new phone, the wife wants an LG Stylo of sorts for her Virgin Mobile service, and its her birthday in oh crap 3 days haha So I have to really get on it here. I dont want to get a G3 even tho they are so cheap, But only used G4's are under $200.... Ive looked at so many phones this week its crazy. I just cant pull the trigger, I keep doing a loop. I get pulled tword he G4, then look at the prices, and see everyones Bootloops, and Screen problems, and i get leary, So i check out the phones mentioned, and I like them, then the price pushes me back the G4 and it repeats all over again...
Im gonna have to fork out the cash or settle for something less... Its such a heard decision....
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What about nexus 6p? is it expensive where you live?
I wouldn't buy the G3, its a freaking G2 with QHD. And I've never had a G4 in my hands, but I just wouldn't buy another LG phone. I feel like the G2 was the best phone by them, after that, they are just creating crap.
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What about nexus 6p? is it expensive where you live?
I wouldn't buy the G3, its a freaking G2 with QHD. And I've never had a G4 in my hands, but I just wouldn't buy another LG phone. I feel like the G2 was the best phone by them, after that, they are just creating crap.
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I will use the internet to buy the device, All of my considerations are close to $300, the Moto X Prime, Nexus 6P, Oneplus 3, ect... I guess ill have to fork out the extra or lower my expectations. I hate to spend that much on a phone without any type of insurance, and I dont want a piece of junk either.... I have such hard times making decisions like this. I turn it into such a big deal for some reason. ha
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Well i LOVE my LG G2 (Verizon), but my LCD just crapped out and I figure Id just upgrade to a new phone, I use straight talk so I can Use almost any variant, I just went with Verizon cuz service was better around here and It came pre unlocked. Im considering a G3 or really want the G4, I cant afford a G5 Id like it under $200, what would you do? Switch to a G3, or skip the 3 and Goto G4, or is their something better then LG in that price range?? Its gotta be rootable (what isnt these days) i love the IR sensor, I love everything about my G2 so i want to match as many features and specs as I can, Also a Removeable battery and SD card slot are always nice..
Whats everyones opinions? I need to buy ASAP. I hate flipping my G2 like a ninja with a sword just to navigate normal everyday use.
Thanks guys, looking forward to ALL opinions. Im open for any ideas.
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Does BLU make a phone with these good of specs? Ive seen their name quite a bit lately.
Let me piggyback onto this thread (or I could make a separate one if you guys think is best) I'm in the same situation and I'm going crazy looking at online reviews and comparing numbers that never match. My conundrum to see if my thoughts might help you somehow (and if someone can help in the process.)
1. I bought this phone refurbished and as an emergency after drowning my last one in the ocean. I had never heard about it and wasn't even aware LG made flagship phones - it wasn't popular here in Portugal, I think it even sold just under the 16MB variant or at least I never saw a 32GB.
2. I like the very compact size (still the best screen to body ratio, I think?)
3. That it is plastic. Phones fall from time to time, I fail to see what's so great about a full glass phone. Paying a premium to stick in a case after.
4. UI isn't pretty, I think the camera has ultra agressive post-processing that hurts pictures, no more official updates but battery life used to be so good it made up for everything.
Currently my screen is also going, sometimes it doesn't respond to the touch, coating is gone so it's always a mess, brightness seems very poor. Phone heats up a lot, something I never noticed before. Battery drains almost 1% per per minute. Tried different ROMs, factory resetting, nothing solves anything. I think it's dead.
I have been looking at new phones and this is my list wit my pros and cons (AFAICT):
1: Oneplus 3 - Battery life doesn't seem as good as the G2, especially with web browsing. Heard somewhere wifi reception thingy isn't great and it's a point where they cut corners to make it cheaper. Web browsing and stuff is probably where I need more battery from a phone (GSMA numers: 8:35OP3 VS 11:42G2)
2. Xiaomi Mi5: Great size, good price, hard to get. Almost the only SD820 I've seen with as good or better battery life numbers than the G2 (I'll talk about the S7 latter). Never handled one, don't know what to think about the UI, afraid to get it from some store that will plague it with malware.
3. Samsung Galaxy S7 (Exynos): I know it's a safe purchase and probably the best allrounder. But it's expensive. Batery life worst than on the G2 except on video playback (which I don't use).
4. S7 Edge (Exynos): Too big IMO, ridiculously expensive but they say it has a terrific battery life. Yes, it beats the G2 but not by much, just kills it on video playback which isn't something I usually use.
5. Sony Experia Z5: Prices dropped a lot. Pretty but bulky. Has the SD810 MkII which doesn't heat up as much but still runs hot. Battery life seems better than the G2 on web browsing (14:35) but somehow I don't trust those numbers. Phone has way worst numbers overall.
6: Huawei P9: Lovely and perfect size for me. Great screen. Kirin SoC seems to run smoother and cooler than the SD. Battery life is worst. Same problem with Xiamoni's UI, it's an IOS-ised Android. Not necessarly a bad thing.
7: Xiaomi Redmi Note Pro SD650: Benchmarks tells us this SOC is slightly faster than last year 's top of the range 810. Some people say that's baloney. It's too big IMO but not ridiculously big. 4000mah battery that should outperforme every other phone on this list. It's dirty cheap. Same problems as with the Mi5 when it comes to buying one and where from, UI and I don't know what the glass is and if it's scatch resitant. Some poeple say it's Dragontail, the stuff Sony uses and the Japanese equivalent to Corning Gorilla glass. But Xiaomi doesn't say anything about it, or I haven't found it. Something that maybe could be sorted with a tempered glass screen but that sort of sucks IMO.
8: LG G4: Battery life is pants.
9: LG G5: Battery life is pants, the modulat thing just makes it a bulkier, more fragile phone.
10: HTC10: For the price, it is a joke. Hurts me to say it as a former fan of HTC.
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So, do I really even need one of these new phones? I rarely use the camera, don't care for fingerprint readers, no need for VR and QHD screens, 5.5 sizes are already beyond my sweet spot, not sure if I care about the latest Android thing. Tried Marshmallow on CM version, hated it.
I think I would need a newer phone if apps etc just start too become to demanding and bringing the great battery life of the G2 down.
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Maybe just buying a brand new G2? I mean, if my battery and screen weren't dying, I wouldn't even be looking at this matter. Not easy finding a new one though. Could get a Korean version with removable battery and SD card slot but have to investigate further into it, not sure what the differences are to the international version.
Two questions about this... do phone batteries go bad without being used on a 3 years old phone? Could part of the battery drain I'm experiencing also be the result of times moving forward and now having apps and stuff that use a lot more wifi, data, gps?
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Yes, I know it's a long post, lot's of questions... sorry!! Just shows you how confused I am.
robles4242 said:
Well i LOVE my LG G2 (Verizon), but my LCD just crapped out and I figure Id just upgrade to a new phone, I use straight talk so I can Use almost any variant, I just went with Verizon cuz service was better around here and It came pre unlocked. Im considering a G3 or really want the G4, I cant afford a G5 Id like it under $200, what would you do? Switch to a G3, or skip the 3 and Goto G4, or is their something better then LG in that price range?? Its gotta be rootable (what isnt these days) i love the IR sensor, I love everything about my G2 so i want to match as many features and specs as I can, Also a Removeable battery and SD card slot are always nice..
Whats everyones opinions? I need to buy ASAP. I hate flipping my G2 like a ninja with a sword just to navigate normal everyday use.
Thanks guys, looking forward to ALL opinions. Im open for any ideas.
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I've been using G2's for about 2 yrs now; 1st a VS980 (vzw), then T-mobile D801, now on AT&T since I moved. Both rooted + TWRP.
Before researching too much,I picked up a G4 factory refurbished AT&T, in like new condition, which I am planning to sell. Want external memory. Replaceable battery is a plus. After getting it, I find out that the bootloader is locked down hard. Rootable by flashing back to lollipop or earlier, but no real hope for TWRP. Would love it if it were easier to 0wn (root/unlock BL), as it seems to be a great device, with good battery life, which would probably jjust get better with a custom ROM & kernel.
There only seem to be about two G4 variants that can be bootloader unlocked, t-mo H811 and international H815. Maybe one or two others? F500, H810PR?
So I'm going with a G3 VS985, (vzw) to try out Total Wireless (uses vzw infrastructure) as carrier, since AT&T data signal is marginal in my area. The nice thing about the LG vzw G series variants are that they can serve as CDMA or GSM.
Buying from swappa.com seems to be a little better bet than eBay for guarantee against buying someone else's problem, as has happened to me once or twice in the past.
Jury is still out on it, as I am still waiting for the G3.
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From what I've seen one could expect almost half the battery life from a G2. Some people claim stand-by and SOT that I never ever got from any smartphone. What sort of times are you getting?
I was referring to the G4 there, which is newly refurbished with new battery, I believe. However, my G2's have always been pretty good as well, although I am starting to notice that the battery charge life is starting to fall off, which is not surprising since I've been using it for about a year and a half now, and I bought it as a refurb.
Have always run Cloudy G3 (ported for G2) which AFAIK has a custom kernel (Cloudy kernel) which I believe has helped out. Never really had any trouble getting through the entire day, but don't run the screen with more brightness than needed. SOT has always been good, usually at least 4hrs. If I know that I'm going to push it more than that I bring along a portable battery charger. There are some good ones sold on eBay of 10,000+ mah which priced around $15.
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I was referring to the G4 there, which is newly refurbished with new battery, I believe. However, my G2's have always been pretty good as well, although I am starting to notice that the battery charge life is starting to fall off, which is not surprising since I've been using it for about a year and a half now, and I bought it as a refurb.
Have always run Cloudy G3 (ported for G2) which AFAIK has a custom kernel (Cloudy kernel) which I believe has helped out. Never really had any trouble getting through the entire day, but don't run the screen with more brightness than needed. SOT has always been good, usually at least 4hrs. If I know that I'm going to push it more than that I bring along a portable battery charger. There are some good ones sold on eBay of 10,000+ mah which priced around $15.
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My G2 drains about 1% per per minute with the screen on, so now is basically like a tinny laptop, have to carry the charger around with me all the time. CM13 and Cloudy didn't help at all, it's just gone.
Still on the G4, I'm just coming from the G4 subforum... major issues with that phone, aparently a lot of them have a faulty motherboard and there is a huge possibility the phone will die in less than a year. http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-admits-g4-bootloop-problem-hardware-fault-669603/
I'm currently looking at this one, I've been interested on it since it was announced. http://www.alcatelonetouch.us/idol-4s-5-inch-vr-smartphone
$350 is just an insane bargain and it's probably a better phone than the OP3, even with the slightly less powerful SD650. I would end my search for a new phone if I could find the same deal here in Europe but so far I'm seeing it selling fro over €400 which is a major difference. For €50 or €60 more one can already get a brand new S7 which is meh but we know is a solid phone on all camps.
I'm in Hong Kong over the summer and I can get a V20 for about 250 pounds and g6 for about 300. Do you think it's worth the extra 50 pounds for the g6. And are there bootlooping issues as it was added to the lawsuit.
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I'm in Hong Kong over the summer and I can get a V20 for about 250 pounds and g6 for about 300. Do you think it's worth the extra 50 pounds for the g6. And are there bootlooping issues as it was added to the lawsuit.
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I suggest you go for LG G6. V20 is good but I have seen instances where it is mentioned in boot-loop discussions. Plus, LG G6 has a slightly better processor, better build, better form factor and water proof as well.
Just because the V20 is listed in a lawsuit proves nothing...
Before I bought my phone I did some quick research and I have not found anyone with a V20 having a real bootloop concern.
There are threads like this one (https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/lg-v20-boot-loop-fix-t3629308) that are incorrectly titled (as in this thread) which lead people to that conclusion but by reading the posts they would see that this concern does not exist.
The V20 and G6 are totally different phones. It really boils down to what your wants/needs are.
I picked up both phones a few days ago, the v20 and the g6. My other phone is an OnePlus 3. I decided to buy them based off a couple reasons honestly, T-Mobile offered me $100 off each phone for being with them 10+ years then with the lg promotion currently going on for free mini projector and headset I figured why not. I had wanted the v20 since release and tho it's not the fastest phone out, I knew from using my OnePlus that it will do what I want.
To compare the two, keeping in mind these are T-Mobile variants, the v20 has root where the g6 does not. I knew I wanted root where my wife could care less. Bigger screen overall is another plus for me where she prefers smaller phones. Cameras, to my untrained eye are not much different. The benefit of the g6 would be water resistant and wireless charging, I wish the v20 had ip certification but wireless charging does little for me. As for the boot looping, T-Mobile stands by the manufacturer warranty for a year, any problems like that and they replace it so it's not really a concern to me.
I like both phones, but I also liked my g5 that I previously had given to the wife so obviously it's all a matter of personal preference.
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I picked up both phones a few days ago, the v20 and the g6. My other phone is an OnePlus 3. I decided to buy them based off a couple reasons honestly, T-Mobile offered me $100 off each phone for being with them 10+ years then with the lg promotion currently going on for free mini projector and headset I figured why not. I had wanted the v20 since release and tho it's not the fastest phone out, I knew from using my OnePlus that it will do what I want.
To compare the two, keeping in mind these are T-Mobile variants, the v20 has root where the g6 does not. I knew I wanted root where my wife could care less. Bigger screen overall is another plus for me where she prefers smaller phones. Cameras, to my untrained eye are not much different. The benefit of the g6 would be water resistant and wireless charging, I wish the v20 had ip certification but wireless charging does little for me. As for the boot looping, T-Mobile stands by the manufacturer warranty for a year, any problems like that and they replace it so it's not really a concern to me.
I like both phones, but I also liked my g5 that I previously had given to the wife so obviously it's all a matter of personal preference.
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How you got the $100 off offered from T-Mobile? I've been with them for 10+ years too.
Also I brought couple used T-Mobile V20 which is H918 but both seems start having the boot looping issues that would restart itself 5-6 times a day with normal use, some times even just listening songs with bluetooth at work would restart 2 times in 4 hours... I can't get replacement from T-Mobile since I didn't buy from their store and don't have receipt for LG to warranty although it still made within a year
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How you got the $100 off offered from T-Mobile? I've been with them for 10+ years too.
Also I brought couple used T-Mobile V20 which is H918 but both seems start having the boot looping issues that would restart itself 5-6 times a day with normal use, some times even just listening songs with bluetooth at work would restart 2 times in 4 hours... I can't get replacement from T-Mobile since I didn't buy from their store and don't have receipt for LG to warranty although it still made within a year
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I just called them, asked if that was their best price, rep put me in touch with customer loyalty and they offered me that deal.
I would still call T-Mobile and ask about exchanging the phone, if it's paid off and not tied to someone else's account they will probably do it for you, they have in the past for me when I had purchased a phone from swappa. It's still a T-Mobile variant under the year threshold.. All you can do is explain your situation and ask. If first rep says no, don't be afraid to try again. I've found that often, reps handle things differently from one to another.
So recently my M8 has decided to degrade a lot faster than a typical Android phone would, so I'm looking for an upgrade. Considering I'm still a college student, I can't make sense of spending over $500 just for a phone. I recently saw a few models (64GB and 128GB) for under $400, but would anyone still recommend buying this phone in 2017? The bootloop issue keeps me from pulling the trigger. I would rather not purchase another phone that I'm gonna want to throw at a wall only a few months into owning it.
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So recently my M8 has decided to degrade a lot faster than a typical Android phone would, so I'm looking for an upgrade. Considering I'm still a college student, I can't make sense of spending over $500 just for a phone. I recently saw a few models (64GB and 128GB) for under $400, but would anyone still recommend buying this phone in 2017? The bootloop issue keeps me from pulling the trigger. I would rather not purchase another phone that I'm gonna want to throw at a wall only a few months into owning it.
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If you can get a NEW model 64GB for a great price, then yeah. In the US, Walmart is selling a new 32GB model for $365. The phone is still fast as hell, runs 8.0 and gets monthly security updates. Ongoing community support is guaranteed for a LONG time. :good:
I used my 6P for about a year without any issues but I can't recommend it to those that need a reliable phone. Definitely wouldn't pay anywhere near $400. Just too many potential issues and there's better options in that price range. I bought my 64 GB gold 6P over a year ago for about $400 but had other options (5x and 6) if it had boot loop or battery issues. Now I have the 3T and will probably sell the 6P.
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I used my 6P for about a year without any issues but I can't recommend it to those that need a reliable phone. Definitely wouldn't pay anywhere near $400. Just too many potential issues and there's better options in that price range. I bought my 64 GB gold 6P over a year ago for about $400 but had other options (5x and 6) if it had boot loop or battery issues. Now I have the 3T and will probably sell the 6P.
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Yea I'm still weary of the bootloop. The phone I found was an official refurb from Google, but still, if it's unreliable even afterwards, I'd rather spend the extra money now so I don't have to spend even more later.
BTW I would prefer to buy one that works on all four networks. Currently on Sprint (hot garbage) but I'm looking to move to T-Mobile after I graduate.
My Pixel XL died and I picked up the Nexus 6P.
It's 95% as fast as the Pixel XL.
Apps do open faster on the Pixel, but the difference is negligible.
I never realized I'd be this happy with the 6P.
My only issue is premature battery failure.
I'd budget $25 to get a replacement battery if you're comfortable doing it yourself.
If not, then budget a lot more, or get a better phone.
how long have you had it?
Have my 6P for 14 months now. 95% battery health and working flawlessly so far.
Can't see any reason to replace it. if the only issue I'll have in the future is the battery than I'll simply replace it and keep using it.
It got a 2K AMOLED screen , 2Ghz big cluster and 1550 little cluster CPU, 3 Gb RAM.. can't see any reason to replace it by now.
wizardwiz said:
Have my 6P for 14 months now. 95% battery health and working flawlessly so far.
Can't see any reason to replace it. if the only issue I'll have in the future is the battery than I'll simply replace it and keep using it.
It got a 2K AMOLED screen , 2Ghz big cluster and 1550 little cluster CPU, 3 Gb RAM.. can't see any reason to replace it by now.
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What are you using to check your battery life? I've been trying to find something but haven't been able to.
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What are you using to check your battery life? I've been trying to find something but haven't been able to.
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Accubattery
I still think it's very worthy phone even in 2017. It's my all time favorite Android phone. I've owned it twice now. I as of about 4 days ago just bought another Nexus 6p from an individual who had bought it from Google but never even opened it up. It had just been sitting in the box unopened at his house for the past two years. Although I really wanted the silver, the one he had was 64g and in frost white. When he told me what he'd sell it to me for I went into shock. I bought a brand new 64g Nexus 6p for $150!!! Sealed in box never even turned on. This phone is butter smooth. The screen is amazing. It's great for media. Runs the very latest software from Google. I like it tens times better than the Pixel. The Pixel is absolutely ugly and it's not even a true XL at 5.5 inches where the 6p is 5.7 which I would consider that to be an XL. The phone design thanks to Huawei is stunning. So yeah if you can find one in the original box at the right price that was purchased from Google in case you do need a replacement then I'd say definitely yes to getting one. Don't let the boot loop scare you. Although it happens it's not to the majority of the phones. You only hear of the bad apples and not the good ones. Well mine is perfect although it was brand new it's still two yesrs old just never opened up and my battery is fine. Just do your research and ask questions and get you one. You won't regret it. This phone is by far the best and most smooth Android phone I've ever used. It's definitely at the right price very worth buying even in 2017. I believe it will get updates until late 2018 so you're good there too. Like I said research it and definitely fine one that comes in the original box with the contents. It'll help your resell value down the road.
akaTRAP said:
So recently my M8 has decided to degrade a lot faster than a typical Android phone would, so I'm looking for an upgrade. Considering I'm still a college student, I can't make sense of spending over $500 just for a phone. I recently saw a few models (64GB and 128GB) for under $400, but would anyone still recommend buying this phone in 2017? The bootloop issue keeps me from pulling the trigger. I would rather not purchase another phone that I'm gonna want to throw at a wall only a few months into owning it.
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Don't do it... Worst build quality ever, it's essentially made out of tin foil
Until the Google Pixel dual partition phones get Xposed working, I'm sticking with the 6P.
Even TWRP doesn't backup/restore reliably for Pixel dual partition setup yet.
My 6P has RR and Xposed for Nougat working just right and I'm not letting that go.
I have my 6p for over a year now and to be honest I am not happy In 2017 you would end up much better with OnePlus 5 that has similar performance to iPhone 8 and much better than Samsung Galaxy 8. Nexus 6p is way behind them now
The "frame" (thin plastic around the screen) goes off quickly and it looks quite bad and the body is made of soft metal so you would have a lot of tiny holes and few scratches after few months (and drops). Battery is good though, after a year still holds about 95% (due to AccuBattery app) and performance itself is neither bad or good.
No it's not a good buy. You want a phone to last long look elsewhere. You might get lucky and get a good model or you might get one that has one of the many issues that plagues these phones. Go for a one plus 3T
I absolutely love mine. expect to replace the battery at some point, but other than that, I think it's still a relevant phone in 2017. buy it if you see it cheap.
So hey guys. I've not really used XDA in a while, last time really active was when I got my Note 3 (that I am STILL using today.)
My budget for a "new" phone is small, aprox 200-300. I was looking at the LGv20's, but not able to nail one down (locally) for that price.
I have an offer of a great condition Nexus 6p for 225. Should I? Any idea how common the batt/loop issues are?
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So hey guys. I've not really used XDA in a while, last time really active was when I got my Note 3 (that I am STILL using today.)
My budget for a "new" phone is small, aprox 200-300. I was looking at the LGv20's, but not able to nail one down (locally) for that price.
I have an offer of a great condition Nexus 6p for 225. Should I? Any idea how common the batt/loop issues are?
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Swappa has v2O for 250-300.
My 6P has been great for over a year but I wouldn't buy even a cheap 6P unless I didn't need it to be a reliable phone. My 6P is now used as a backup.
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kingdazy said:
So hey guys. I've not really used XDA in a while, last time really active was when I got my Note 3 (that I am STILL using today.)
My budget for a "new" phone is small, aprox 200-300. I was looking at the LGv20's, but not able to nail one down (locally) for that price.
I have an offer of a great condition Nexus 6p for 225. Should I? Any idea how common the batt/loop issues are?
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No. Short battery life, lag and overheating, very poor build, terrible support from Huawei. I would avoid it personally
seabro01 said:
Swappa has v2O for 250-300.
My 6P has been great for over a year but I wouldn't buy even a cheap 6P unless I didn't need it to be a reliable phone. My 6P is now used as a backup.
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crixley said:
No. Short battery life, lag and overheating, very poor build, terrible support from Huawei. I would avoid it personally
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Thanks, guys.
When this phone came out, I SUPER wanted one bad, but pretty glad I avoided it, if what I've read online is truly a common thing and not just a vocal minority. (I tried to see if I could find actual failure stats/percentages, but nothing concrete.)
And yeah, I looked at swappa, but I'm one of those "must be in my hand to inspect before I spend" guys, online purchase of expensive used electronics makes me nervous.
Found an LG V20 for ~200 this morning, but its a bit of a drive. Might do it...
Thanks again for the XDA community support.
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Thanks, guys.
When this phone came out, I SUPER wanted one bad, but pretty glad I avoided it, if what I've read online is truly a common thing and not just a vocal minority. (I tried to see if I could find actual failure stats/percentages, but nothing concrete.)
And yeah, I looked at swappa, but I'm one of those "must be in my hand to inspect before I spend" guys, online purchase of expensive used electronics makes me nervous.
Found an LG V20 for ~200 this morning, but its a bit of a drive. Might do it...
Thanks again for the XDA community support.
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Glad to help out. I try not to fanboy out on any phone I own, and be honest about the good and the bad. XDA can be the worst place to ask for advice about buying phones honestly. People will say anything is good.
I keep mine around to play around with and test android updates. It hasn't been my main phone in a while though.