Improving sound quality, HD music players with lockscreen support - P8lite Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

[ I've decided to rewrite the original description to make it more like a guide (since already I've found few interesting things ]
P8 Lite is quite ok in terms of hardware to make it nice music player. However comparing to old and rusty Samsung Galaxy Ace2 its sound quality is worse.
According to the tests (and hours of tests/comparisons I performed with two different high quality headphones) P8 Lite is only slightly worse but its main issues are significant stereo crosstalk and strangely boosted parts of middle tones.
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p8lite-review-1280p7.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_ace_2-review-786p5.php
While EMUI 4.0 update introduces DTS which can be enabled and helps in terms of crosstalk it does very strange thing - boosts bass and treble but decreases some middle tones thus some tracks appear to sound kind of awkward and unacceptable.
Another thing is I wanted to also benefit from the HUAWEI lockscreen (I have linked my phone with corporate account which enforced me to have the pin lock on the huawei lockscreen and because of this - having additional lockscreen was not an option for me).
Other things to be considered while trying to find a good player were: folder play (I have my stuff well organized), nice widgets, good audio quality, ui that won't make me wanna throw the phone out of the window while using it
To keep the description clean I would mention only players which are significantly better and other tweaks I've used to make the audio quality better (actually - given the hardware limitations of P8 Lite - to be as close to Ace2 as possible).
Test base:
P8Lite with Marshmallow 6.0 Stock EMUI 4.0 B564
Players which performed very well in terms of quality without any hacks/flashes/blackmagic
- MyPlayer++ (lots of configuration options in terms of audio quality, nice widgets, no huawei lockscreen support) http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-myplayer-lightweight-music-player-t2892233
- DroidSound-E (only if DTS was enabled, may also be true for other music players based on BASS library, awful widget (need thirdparty widget like PlugInMusic Player), no huawei lockscren support) https://github.com/droidmjt/Droidsound
- PowerAMP beta (as suggested by @Zero_Rik) (audio quality and configuration capabilities comparable to MyPlayer++, nice widgets (configurable), HUAWEI LOCKSCREEN SUPPORT (hurray!) http://forum.powerampapp.com/index.php?/forum/18-poweramp-v3-testing/
Players which I don't like but do have huawei lockscreen support:
- Huawei Music Player (you didn't expect this one? )
- Google Play Music
After playing around with various players still I was unhappy with the sound quality (although PowerAMP at least apart from good overal quality introduced the lockscreen support). Also I wanted the sound to be similar across all applications therefore I did not want to use PowerAMPs equalizer.
Solution #1 - Dolby Atmos ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/p8lite/themes-apps/dolby-dolby-atmos-t3305789 )
Instalation was simple (flashing two packages in a row) but required recovery to be exchanged from stock to TWRP.
Once installed Dolby Atmos was working more or less fine but did not work in any way possible with PowerAMP.
Uninstallation is possible by flashing third package. Worked nice though for DroidSound-E
Solution #2 - DSP Manager from CyanogenMod ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...alizer-dsp-manager-lollipop-versions-t3106546 )
Installation was simple (again two packages). No straightforward uninstall (so I've made OS backup in TWRP).
This time audio quality was really really (tested in DroidSound-E and PowerAMP)
Solution #3 - Viper4Droid (did not test this one but people say its good
Please note that flashing another recovery over existing (installing TWRP) will prevent you from updating system to any further updates (unless you reflash your original stock recovery partition).
Also worth noting that custom DSP (Atmos or DSP Manager from CM or Viper4Droid) may not work for some music players!

Or easly use Beta programm of of Poweramp

Zero_Rik said:
Or easly use Beta programm of of Poweramp
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Thanks for the hint. Although it is a partial answer to my question I'll take a look on PowerAmp Beta (I remember to have some issues with PowerAmp trial).
It also does not cover the problem with Huawei lockscreen support but anyway worth checking at least in terms of the audio quality.
Edit [few minutes later] : Well... actually it does the job! THANKS! PowerAmp Beta seems to be quite a decent choice.
Most of the stuff I wanted is working flawlessly. The difference between P8Lite now+PowerAmp AND my old Ace2 is now less noticeable.
And furthermore - this BETA PowerAmp uses the EMUI lockscreen!!!
Edit [few hours of tests later]: PowerAMP seems to be so far the best choice in terms of usability and audio quality. Unfortunately still Ace2 sounds a bit (but easily noticeable) better (at least with same headphones attached). This seems to be hardware related (as per the gsmarena tests) and nothing more can be done here. Anyway - the sound quality with PowerAMP can be really good.

not a lot of music player support lockscreen on our p8lite... to name a few that works are Default Music Player, Google PlayMusic (they both support defult lockscreen controls) and MusixMatch (it has its own lockscreen control)..
I guess it shows the lockscreen controls of only those music player ( that has its own lockscreen control ) ...
P.S. MusixMatch is quite good of an option too... It has its own equalizer, lockscreen controls and quite decent sound quality too

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Or easly use Beta programm of of Poweramp
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Thanks, It's very good.

amageek said:
not a lot of music player support lockscreen on our p8lite... to name a few that works are Default Music Player, Google PlayMusic (they both support defult lockscreen controls) and MusixMatch (it has its own lockscreen control)..
I guess it shows the lockscreen controls of only those music player ( that has its own lockscreen control ) ...
P.S. MusixMatch is quite good of an option too... It has its own equalizer, lockscreen controls and quite decent sound quality too
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My goal was to find something which work with Huawei LockScreen as I don't need to have two lockscreens enabled (and due to the company policy enforced on my mobile I need to have password set on Huawei LockScreen so its pointless to have two separate lockscreens
Anyway - if it works for anyone else why not to try ones with separate lockscreens and disable the Huawei one?

I've just installed TWRP and flashed Dolby Atmos ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/p8lite/themes-apps/dolby-dolby-atmos-t3305789 ).
With DTS enabled, Surround OFF, Volume Leveler OFF, manualy made preset in equalizer I was able to achieve quite good audio quality in any music player now.
...unforunately this setup does not work properly with PowerAMP Beta....... (PowerAMP seems to output directly audio instead of using external equalizer even though the "MusicFX" is enabled in PowerAMP and its configuration open properly Dolby Atmos).

wolfensg said:
I've just installed TWRP and flashed Dolby Atmos ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/p8lite/themes-apps/dolby-dolby-atmos-t3305789 ).
With DTS enabled, Surround OFF, Volume Leveler OFF, manualy made preset in equalizer I was able to achieve quite good audio quality in any music player now.
...unforunately this setup does not work properly with PowerAMP Beta....... (PowerAMP seems to output directly audio instead of using external equalizer even though the "MusicFX" is enabled in PowerAMP and its configuration open properly Dolby Atmos).
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Try viper4android, it's the best equalizer for android. I've been using this for almost 2 years.
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Szabi01 said:
Try viper4android, it's the best equalizer for android. I've been using this for almost 2 years.
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Thanks for the info.
Fortunately I found this ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...alizer-dsp-manager-lollipop-versions-t3106546 ) , uninstalled Dolby Atmos and installed DSP Manager (from CM). That one is working really good ))

wolfensg said:
Thanks for the info.
Fortunately I found this ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...alizer-dsp-manager-lollipop-versions-t3106546 ) , uninstalled Dolby Atmos and installed DSP Manager (from CM). That one is working really good ))
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I don't really like DSP manager, V4A is way better in my opinion.

Szabi01 said:
Try viper4android, it's the best equalizer for android. I've been using this for almost 2 years.
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can you provide the link ?

Of course, here you are: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223

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Have to enable audio booster each time

Hello,
Tough the "enabled" mark is checked in the audio booster equalizer setup screen, I have to open/close the equalizer page each time I start listening mp3 through TF3D music player to have it working (via Menu > Audio Booster).
Is there a registry tweak or something to force it enabled ?
Thanks for you help.
rom in use? tf3d version? etc?
btw, i suggest (but this is NOT a solution) that you keep audio booster off forever. It sucks really.
I would always recommed Pocket Music player if you're a real music enthusiast. It has a built in equalizer with extra bass and lot of other functions that make music sound better on HTC phones.
Only drawback which may not bother much is it's high on CPU and battery usage/ I would say it's definitely worth it.
Sorry for the lack of information
I updated my signature with rom information
TF3D Version : 1.3.35350.1_1630.38
Btw, are there newer versions of TF3D ?
About Pocket Player, I planned to install it, but I'd like to use TF3D music sometimes (for battery matters mostly), so the Audio Booster is important to me (as I like much better the sound with it set to Rock)
thank you for your help

I Need A Better Audio Booster

I need a better audio booster for use with my XMI X II Mini speaker, the HD2 isn't quite loud enough, it's leaving the speaker with a lot of headroom.
I have been using the WOW STS HD cab, but I'm finding it hard to boost all frequencies uniformly with it.
Can the built in audio booster be tweaked or is there another program out there that i could make use of?
try the built-in equalizer in pocket player from conduits, maybe it will fit your requirements?
mideel said:
try the built-in equalizer in pocket player from conduits, maybe it will fit your requirements?
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No improvement, seems worse (volume wise) than standard player with audio boost and WOW SRS HD (or even without this).
Edit: Just realised i can use WOW SRS HD with it.
This is still just about on part with standard audio booster i think, will experiment more.
Still would like away to tweak the standard audio booster or WOW SRS HD or an alternative method of boosting audio volume for use with speaker.
Earphones are not a problem (they are loud enough) and i don't mind the standard speaker for ring tones etc...
go the heavy way and starte htc audio booster, pocket player with critical - extreme settings and full bass + bass equalizer preset and srs, i think THAT shoudl be enough xD
for me windows mobile got awsome sound quality, but i still changed to cowon s9 mp
D4rkSoRRoW said:
go the heavy way and starte htc audio booster, pocket player with critical - extreme settings and full bass + bass equalizer preset and srs, i think THAT shoudl be enough xD
for me windows mobile got awsome sound quality, but i still changed to cowon s9 mp
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Oh yeah, just realised that audio booster works outside of HTC music player if you configure it in it's standalone app.
How do i configure pocket player to have critical extreme settings?
Edit: I'm just going to assume you meant max settings on the equalizer.
would need to install it again, so dont know exactly, but there are settings like this, just search xD
but its not the best thing of the pocketplayer.. what gives u awsome sound are the DSP plugins + the equalizer -> activate multi DSP in settings and choose surround sound and the bass DSP, maybe something else too, then go to the equalizer and make an awsome own equalizer, i would say with high deeps and ups
then start SRS with a good setting..
and htc Audio booster with like the same equalizer setting as the pocketplayer...
and now go search .flac songs, cause mp3 is to bad for this XD i dont know if it will still sound well after so much things xD..
D4rkSoRRoW said:
would need to install it again, so dont know exactly, but there are settings like this, just search xD
but its not the best thing of the pocketplayer.. what gives u awsome sound are the DSP plugins + the equalizer -> activate multi DSP in settings and choose surround sound and the bass DSP, maybe something else too, then go to the equalizer and make an awsome own equalizer, i would say with high deeps and ups
then start SRS with a good setting..
and htc Audio booster with like the same equalizer setting as the pocketplayer...
and now go search .flac songs, cause mp3 is to bad for this XD i dont know if it will still sound well after so much things xD..
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Well, couldn't find extreme-critical anywhere, maybe it was on an older version.
I just realised that the equalizer which has a soft preamp built in wasn't actually enabled though, it has the word enabled in a list in settings, which made me thought i was enabled, but you actually need to press that and then there will be a tick next to it, there's no box for a tick or anything, nothing obvious that would have given that away.
Anyway I'm all set now, the preamp and equalizer is very loud even without WOW SRS HD.
i was using version 4.0.. >.<
but yea, then its ok^^ already thought what crazy human u are when pocketplayer isnt enough for u xD.. even for me it was enough

[Q] Get Adapt Sound To Work Globally?

Adapt Sound for any of you guys that didn't know makes the sound quality 20 times better. I listened to a song in the Samsung music app and then listened to the same song at the same volume in Winamp and it sounded terrible.
I'm trying to find a way to make adapt sound global, because I absolutely hate the Samsung music app. I'd much rather use Winamp or Poweramp because of all the extra features.
It'd be AWESOME if someone figured out a way to make adapt sound global and put it into a custom ROM, or even made a MOD out of it.
Edit: If you don't believe me test it out for yourself. Go to Settings>My Device>Sound>Adapt Sound, once you get there do the little hearing test, and then play a song in the samsung music app.
gharb0129 said:
Adapt Sound for any of you guys that didn't know makes the sound quality 20 times better. I listened to a song in the Samsung music app and then listened to the same song at the same volume in Winamp and it sounded terrible.
I'm trying to find a way to make adapt sound global, because I absolutely hate the Samsung music app. I'd much rather use Winamp or Poweramp because of all the extra features.
It'd be AWESOME if someone figured out a way to make adapt sound global and put it into a custom ROM, or even made a MOD out of it.
Edit: If you don't believe me test it out for yourself. Go to Settings>My Device>Sound>Adapt Sound, once you get there do the little hearing test, and then play a song in the samsung music app.
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WOW!
Was using Neutron thinking it gives the best possible sound.. Until now!
It's unbelievable the difference!
Adapt sound and Neutron would be a killer combination!
+1 here!
+1
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartandroidapps.equalizer
Does equalizer app work universally for you? Granted with some eq adjustments, it seems to lower the output level, but I'm still curious if it fixes your issue. Yes, you will have to disable or freeze the built in eq app in touchwiz, for it to work properly.
I might have stumbled on a clue towards applying Adapt Sound globally or with different music apps.. I was fiddling around with it the other day, and then I was testing the Samsung music app and Google Play Music. Of course, music played through Play Music did not enable the Adapt Sound.
However, when I was listening to a song in Play Music, I thought I'd open the Samsung music app to try to run a comparison, and as soon as I opened it, it applied the Adapt Sound to the music that was playing through Play Music! It seems that when the Samsung music app opens, it enables the Adapt Sound regardless if it's actually playing anything or not, and simply keeping it open in a second window (I'm on a Galaxy Note 3) kept the Adapt Sound enabled! As soon as I closed the Samsung music app, the Adapt Sound was disabled and the sound reverted to the default. Perhaps this may give a clue on how Adapt Sound is applied through the Samsung music app, and perhaps make it possible to make a widget with a button that can enable or disable the Adapt Sound feature.
Lars
Any news on this? Maybe a similar app that does the same thing and works on all apps, or a root method to apply Samsung's feature globally?
I hope this is not too late :0
There's only one complicated way to use adapt sound globally... I'll try to explain as good as I can.
You WILL need a rooted phone to make this work.
There's an equalizer app called ViPER4Android, which doesn't only have kick-ass features, but also has a built in "convolver"
So what's a convolver? Basically it lets you simulate effects on audio. It works by having an audio clip, and and another one which has effects on it (in our case adapt sound) and comparing them together to see what changes occurred
You basically take a sine sweep (an audio clip that goes from low frequency to high), and record it paying on your device with adapt sound on (connect your phone to your microphone port by a 3.5mm cable)
Then you import these two clips to an app that can generate convolver presets (Aka impulse response samples)
The result you get is a .Wav file that you put on your phone and select as your convolver presets. And that's it!
What's even more kick-ass is that Viper4android works on neutron. So you're basically combining them three together. You can even think how this sounds.
Hope you found this helpful!
theormex said:
I hope this is not too late :0
There's only one complicated way to use adapt sound globally... I'll try to explain as good as I can.
You WILL need a rooted phone to make this work.
There's an equalizer app called ViPER4Android, which doesn't only have kick-ass features, but also has a built in "convolver"
So what's a convolver? Basically it lets you simulate effects on audio. It works by having an audio clip, and and another one which has effects on it (in our case adapt sound) and comparing them together to see what changes occurred
You basically take a sine sweep (an audio clip that goes from low frequency to high), and record it paying on your device with adapt sound on (connect your phone to your microphone port by a 3.5mm cable)
Then you import these two clips to an app that can generate convolver presets (Aka impulse response samples)
The result you get is a .Wav file that you put on your phone and select as your convolver presets. And that's it!
What's even more kick-ass is that Viper4android works on neutron. So you're basically combining them three together. You can even think how this sounds.
Hope you found this helpful!
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I'm looking for way so replicate the benefits of Adapt Sound (as it works on the Note 7) on my Nexus 6P. The key to adapt sound is the way it creates a profile based on my subjective input (testing my hearing with a given set of headphones; this varies per headphones even). The rest of the eq's and fx processors out there are gimmick to me becaues they are TOTALLY subjective and/or just fluff. You hit the nail on the head with your post; a convolver that is based on the profile created by Adapt Sound. Can you explain more how you have acted on that idea? Ideally (and I might have to try this with Pro Tools), I'd run a sweep on the Note 7 with my profile, record out out the headphone jack, then compare to the sweet and I'd get a diff I could feed to a convolver. If I understand you right, I would do just that, then Viper4Android (which I don't know much about) could apply that andn give me the same effect on my Nexus 6P?
Same idea... I think it can be do next simple way- there is several apps like audiologia.pl that is can make yours audio metrics to left and right channels. All we need to do next it's manualy change eq. setting in V4A or else to normalize sound... BUT there is NO 2 way (two channels L/R) or two different equalizers to left and right channels. Maybe someone can give me information why it is so? Mayby it's hardware impossible?
Adapt sound is a killer feature of samsung phones. I miss it in any non samsung phone I have.
I believe there is a simple way to port it but I never dug the problem.
It's weird that nobody did it until now.
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DOLBY ATMOS - what is use of this app and how to turn it ON while listening to music?

I use PowerAmp to play all my music. I found Dolby Atmos app on my Axon 7. But I could not turn it ON while my Poweramp player is playing. Also what is use of Dolby Atmos and how it works ?
Atmos is just a software eq. You can just stick with PowerAmp eq if you want. If you have FLAC music and want to use the hi-fi DAC, you will have to use the ZTE music app. The DAC doesn't work outside of the app from what I can tell.
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max1001 said:
The DAC doesn't work outside of the app from what I can tell.
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I'm pretty sure you can if you enable MusicFX in the Advanced Tweaks
XblackdemonX said:
I'm pretty sure you can if you enable MusicFX in the Advanced Tweaks
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That's software equalizer. Hi-fi DAC is hardware component.
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max1001 said:
That's software equalizer. Hi-fi DAC is hardware component.
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Checking MusicFX means it will use the phone's built-in EQ which is the Dolby Atmos one which should use the Hi-Fi DAC.
EDIT: Ok I guess I was wrong, but it is possible to use the Hi-Fi DAC with Poweramp 3.0 Alpha! See HERE
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Poweramp Alpha does work with Dolby Atmos. You just need to put Poweramp in Hi Res Audio Output through the settings.
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Checking MusicFX means it will use the phone's built-in EQ which is the Dolby Atmos one which should use the Hi-Fi DAC.
EDIT: Ok I guess I was wrong, but it is possible to use the Hi-Fi DAC with Poweramp 3.0 Alpha! See HERE
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I cannot find that setting, where is it in PowerAmp?
trace1er said:
I cannot find that setting, where is it in PowerAmp?
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Did you update to the version 3.0 Alpha?
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Did you update to the version 3.0 Alpha?
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Nope, just have the installed version from the Play Store. I'll get the alpha, thanks for the response.
Am I the only one that can't get the tracks to be listed in listed order in the stock music app? No matter what I do or which section I choose to view the tracks, they're always listed alphabetically.
Got burned by Lenovo's A10-70 tablet that also have implemented Dolby ATMOS. That tablet sound will get screwed up every time I loaded Poweramp normal Play Store version. Even disable Direct Volume Control in Poweramp does not help. Please tell me if both normal and alpha version of Poweramp works fine with this phone since I am very much interested. I am also not familiar with ZTE software update policy. Not sure if it will get updated as often and as long like Google Nexus phones.
Lyre
Shuttle (and Shuttle+) work well with Dolby Atoms, just disable the built in EQ.
DON'T use "n7 Player" - Before their update, it messed up Dolby and I had to reset my phone twice (a 3rd time was my fault). After their latest update, it renders Dolby Atoms useless and when you try to enable it, it restarts the phone (had to reset my phone twice). Thanks to n7 (my favorite player) not playing well with Dolby Atmos, I've had to reset my phone a total of 5 times since getting it 3 weeks ago.
lyrelai said:
Got burned by Lenovo's A10-70 tablet that also have implemented Dolby ATMOS. That tablet sound will get screwed up every time I loaded Poweramp normal Play Store version. Even disable Direct Volume Control in Poweramp does not help. Please tell me if both normal and alpha version of Poweramp works fine with this phone since I am very much interested. I am also not familiar with ZTE software update policy. Not sure if it will get updated as often and as long like Google Nexus phones.
Lyre
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Look for another phone.
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Headset HiFi and Dolby Atmos works with my music player of choice as well: Clean Music. Probably because it's just a simple GUI (entire player is less than 1MB) and leaves all the processing to the system.
Okay apart from Poweramp and builtin music player - what are other good options to make use of best available audio on board with Axon 7 ?
mjoshi123 said:
Okay apart from Poweramp and builtin music player - what are other good options to make use of best available audio on board with Axon 7 ?
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Well Spotify seems to work well for me. It probably doesn't use the Hi-Fi chip but with Dolby enabled the sound is very nice.
Call me stupid or lazy but the volume is tiny compared to my old LG G2. I have to turn it all the way up to 70%. Is this the case for you guys?
Hello
I tried to use poweramp, but this isn´t dolby Atmos enabled, but, I ´m using Jetaudio plus... and this works PERFECT, remember that this sound app was designed for use in high -end mp3 players ( like cowon), and i can say with full confidence that works great with dolby atmos, boosting very well the music in the speakersphone, in the bluetooth car stereo and headphones ( wired and wireless)... this app bringing bass optimization ( in the original speakersphone the bass is very poor), let me know your experience, i´ll try to help
Please don't recommend warez. Against XDA rules. Getting paid apps for free is warez.
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Well Spotify seems to work well for me. It probably doesn't use the Hi-Fi chip but with Dolby enabled the sound is very nice.
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mjoshi123 said:
I use PowerAmp to play all my music. I found Dolby Atmos app on my Axon 7. But I could not turn it ON while my Poweramp player is playing. Also what is use of Dolby Atmos and how it works ?
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apd said:
Please don't recommend warez. Against XDA rules. Getting paid apps for free is warez.
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i love when someone expresses gratitude with an aid. The post was edited, It was with pleasure!
Someone on the Zte forums said you need to disable direct volume control and BT direct volume control in the settings. In order to get power amp to work with Dolby.
And I can confirm that I am able to use the hifi setting and Dolby with Tidal. Which actually makes the music sound better to me than my dp-x1 onkyo player, which makes me mad cause that thing cost me 800$ lol

BEST audio player for ANDROID head units

Greets all!
I've just joined the Android Head Unit community with the installation of the ATOTO A6 (A6Y2721PB).
So far I love it with the exception of a few minor gripes.
The audio player that comes with it has terrible sort functions. OR basically non-existent sort functions. It categorizes (very badly) the music library into a few categories (Singers, Songs, albums, folders) and all poorly and inaccurately. If there was some useful sort functions under FOLDERS; this wouldn't be so bad, but there is not. It will not even sort alphabetically. It will sort by the number of tracks that is in each folder. That is worthless!
So I'm looking for a better player. I really don't care about STREAMING services support. It comes with Spotify and Pandora already and I don't use them. I'm interested in playing my 1000+ track music archive in the FLAC format. BUT I have to have adequate sort functions. Most all of my archive was not CD rips that does the CDDB encoding. I backed up all my original collection into WAV files a decade ago and that is the source. The only think I miss is the album art. The easy way is to have the album art store in each folder entitled folder.jpg. Many players will display that many don't recognize it. Also I need the player to support widgets so I can integrate the player into the home screen.
I've tried Foobar2000 and like the functionality but it is UGLY with only B&W menus and it does not support widgets. I'm going to try VLC but not sure it will handle music files as well as it does video.
Any suggestions out there?
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So I'm looking for a better player.
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There are many, many Android music players out there.... While opinions may differ based on users' experience, there's really only one that stands out for the use in a HU: PowerAMP . For me it's the player that has everything and is fully integrated in the Android system:
Great Audio ducking
Configurable widgets
Support for folders (and folder.jpg)
If not present, album art download
Has its own audio engine
Support for almost every car launcher
Beautiful album art support
and many more...
It takes some time to configure it the way you want to (don't need the visualizer for instance), but (almost) everything can be adjusted.
But to get the most out of if (that goes for every player), be sure to have your music properly tagged
I've got an old video on YouTube showing some PowerAmp footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT0ewLZ8mOc
Spotify
DragonFlye said:
There are many, many Android music players out there.... While opinions may differ based on users' experience, there's really only one that stands out for the use in a HU: PowerAMP . For me it's the player that has everything and is fully integrated in the Android system:
Great Audio ducking
Configurable widgets
Support for folders (and folder.jpg)
If not present, album art download
Has its own audio engine
Support for almost every car launcher
Beautiful album art support
and many more...
It takes some time to configure it the way you want to (don't need the visualizer for instance), but (almost) everything can be adjusted.
But to get the most out of if (that goes for every player), be sure to have your music properly tagged
I've got an old video on YouTube showing some PowerAmp footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT0ewLZ8mOc
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That's nice, but would not it be better if it have a integrated DSP chip in combination with poweramp?
DragonFlye said:
There are many, many Android music players out there.... While opinions may differ based on users' experience, there's really only one that stands out for the use in a HU: PowerAMP . For me it's the player that has everything and is fully integrated in the Android system:
Great Audio ducking
Configurable widgets
Support for folders (and folder.jpg)
If not present, album art download
Has its own audio engine
Support for almost every car launcher
Beautiful album art support
and many more...
It takes some time to configure it the way you want to (don't need the visualizer for instance), but (almost) everything can be adjusted.
But to get the most out of if (that goes for every player), be sure to have your music properly tagged
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Great, this is what I was looking for. I see the paid version is only about 4 bux. I'll try it and see if it does what it needs to. I'm ready to uninstall the player than came with the unit. Nothing but frustration.
Flemischguy said:
That's nice, but would not it be better if it have a integrated DSP chip in combination with poweramp?
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Well it all depends on your speakers off course and I don't have a DSP. But I can tell you that on the Head Unit I have, the original sound was ok. After using and enabling PowerAmp's own engine and equalizer, sound was far, far better.
However, using Viper4Android (if you're HU is rooted) takes the sound to another level. I didn't even know my stock car speakers could produce such rich basses... I guess having a DSP would give you similar results.
Well gentleman,
I installed PowerAmp and paid the 4 bux for the full version.
Overall I really like it's feature and silky smooth operation. The issue I have is that the sound output level is about HALF of the other audio apps. This is a big problem since I have to turn the volume up much more to hear it's playback. I went under the audio tab and made different changes to the setting trying to get more output from it but no dice.
I'm going to email the developer on the issue. But otherwise this one is a keeper, I really like it's functionality.
BTW, The Atoto A6 does have it's own DSP chip for audio processing.
Dr. Righteous said:
Well gentleman,
I installed PowerAmp and paid the 4 bux for the full version.
Overall I really like it's feature and silky smooth operation. The issue I have is that the sound output level is about HALF of the other audio apps. This is a big problem since I have to turn the volume up much more to hear it's playback. I went under the audio tab and made different changes to the setting trying to get more output from it but no dice.
I'm going to email the developer on the issue. But otherwise this one is a keeper, I really like it's functionality.
BTW, The Atoto A6 does have it's own DSP chip for audio processing.
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PowerAmp has a separate master volume control. Have you tried that? Also the equalizer has a master gain.
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Dr. Righteous said:
Well gentleman,
I installed PowerAmp and paid the 4 bux for the full version.
Overall I really like it's feature and silky smooth operation. The issue I have is that the sound output level is about HALF of the other audio apps. This is a big problem since I have to turn the volume up much more to hear it's playback. I went under the audio tab and made different changes to the setting trying to get more output from it but no dice.
I'm going to email the developer on the issue. But otherwise this one is a keeper, I really like it's functionality.
BTW, The Atoto A6 does have it's own DSP chip for audio processing.
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PowerAmp has a separate master volume control. Have you tried that? Also the equalizer has a master gain and look under Settings ->Audio engine ->advanced: Experiment with Direct Volume Control
DragonFlye said:
PowerAmp has a separate master volume control. Have you tried that? Also the equalizer has a master gain.
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PowerAmp has a separate master volume control. Have you tried that? Also the equalizer has a master gain and look under Settings ->Audio engine ->advanced: Experiment with Direct Volume Control
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Yeah, I got on the PowerAmp site and looked through their FAQ page. It recommended turning DVC off if you have volume problems.
I'll try that after work today.
ive been using Power Amp for a while on my android head unit. It is the best of the bunch. The latest update has created issues playing music so until a new stable release was offered, I tried a few others and the rest are just okay. VLC was actually pretty good but I found that most of the players won't pass audio file text to the home screen widget and won't display my album art. So I am back to power amp. the dev has sent me a link to an alpha build that should fix my issue. I have just been too lazy to install it.
I got the widget working and was able to turn off the DVC function. The volume level is back to normal now so I'm really loving PowerAmp. It has features I really don't need or want but at least I can turn them off so they won't cause havoc unlike the other players I tried.
As far as the DVC function it seemed like a good thing but it just cut the sound output way too low. Reading on the PowerAmp site it stated that incompatibility with DVC will cause this. I'm wondering that this means. This unit (Atoto A6) has it's own DSP for audio affects like EQ etc. I'm wondering if that is the issue.
I also have a forward facing camera for the DVR and a backup camera. Plus various part to make all the USB connections accessible to the passenger compartment. I planned to install all that this weekend. Well didn't happen. The washing machine blew up and we ended up in town all day shopping for a replacement. Will get to it soon.
Hi. My problem with poweramp is that when someone calls me my headunit stops playing music and i am answering the call. But 1 second later music starts plwying again and i can not hear the caller and he cant hear me cause of the music...
Greets
I like gone mad music player (GMMP).
twokidsandaphone said:
I like gone mad music player (GMMP).
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GMMP is the best pick if you have a large music collection. I have 40k+ tracks on a mechanical HD on my head unit. GMMP will play through them no problem with an initial delay of about 30 seconds for the scan to get going. Poweramp craps itself and hangs for long periods of time (up to 60 minutes) while it scans/updates it's library. And then takes about 20-30 seconds to skip a track.
So my votes:
Small music collection, go for Poweramp.
Large music collection, go for GMMP.
I probably tried more than 20 apps, in the end it was Neutron that gave me the best results, I play only flac and have like 240 GB of them in my car, it works really flawless but you need to take the time to adapt it to your likes since really everything can be configured
http://neutronmp.com/
I've been using this for about 5 months, it's nice.. only thing bad is, it doesn't like to start in the SD card folder after starting up after being shutoff, so I have to manually browse to the SD card fold every time I start my truck..
It seems as all the dsp features do work.. there's a million things and settings in this paid app, seems to get updated regularly.. I wish it would leave the track list on screen all the time if wanted
henri_p said:
I probably tried more than 20 apps, in the end it was Neutron that gave me the best results, I play only flac and have like 240 GB of them in my car, it works really flawless but you need to take the time to adapt it to your likes since really everything can be configured
http://neutronmp.com/
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Martin1207 said:
Hi. My problem with poweramp is that when someone calls me my headunit stops playing music and i am answering the call. But 1 second later music starts plwying again and i can not hear the caller and he cant hear me cause of the music...
Greets
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Wow;
Not had that issue. What ever is playing it all mutes until the phone call is done on my ATOTO.
There are a ton of setting for everything in Power amp. Look through the settings and see if you can find a mute on call feature.
Have anyone been able to get an ipod to play through any app?
tankdog03 said:
I've been using this for about 5 months, it's nice.. only thing bad is, it doesn't like to start in the SD card folder after starting up after being shutoff, so I have to manually browse to the SD card fold every time I start my truck..
It seems as all the dsp features do work.. there's a million things and settings in this paid app, seems to get updated regularly.. I wish it would leave the track list on screen all the time if wanted
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just tried this app, having similar issue. I think for me at least it gets totally confused when I plug in or disconnect another UDB drive. It seems as tho my HU(IDoing) shifts the USB volumes and neutron loses it's library. Otherwise the app seems near perfect.

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