So today i bought a unlocked Verizon S7 edge and I was wondering how much difference is in the data speed with T-Mobile network compared to Verizon, like will the T-Mobile network get close to Verizon speed? (Probably not phrasing this right) Like will the Verizon S7 on T-Mobile data work efficiently or will there be a significant slowdown?
I think it just matters more on your own signal strength based on where you live. It looks like the only band you would be missing is the lower 700hz frequency band I believe. Though it should work without issues, you're never going to be sure that you have the best possible service unless you get a phone with all compatible bands.
Where I live, tmobile gets awesome speed. Faster than AT&T and Verizon. But the stupid thing often times drops calls and very spotty depending on where you go. I couldn't stay with tmobile because of that. I had 2 months with tmobile. I was always on AT&T before that, so I got curious of Verizon and now testing their service. So far I'm not impressed.
If you're talking about a T-Mobile S7 vs Verizon S7 on T-Mobile, there is a huge difference in speed between the two. The Verizon S7 doesn't have band 12, and in various markets where carrier aggregation is enabled, I don't get those speeds on the Verizon version. As an example, on a T-Mobile phone I got around 40-50Mbps, but on my Verizon S7 with a T-Mobile SIM I get 5-10Mbps.
I can't my T-Mobile s7 edge to work on Verizon at all
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I plan on getting one through Craigslist and will most likely be using it on Wi-Fi only.
Is there any difference between them besides the carrier markings? Which one can make voice calls after rooting?
(I'm on TMO)
If you want to make calls, you're gonna want an ATT tab. The gsm variants (att and tmob) both have 16gb of internal storage with a card slot free. The cdma variants (sprint, verizon) have 2gb of internal storage and a 16gb card. That's about the only difference between the carriers.
Bluetooth keyboard and mouse will work with the T-Mobile version.
info about devices I've gathered from these forums so far:
Verizon and Sprint have no Bluetooth HID support (this means you can't pair a mouse or keybaord - not sure about bluetooth headsets though), and VZN/Sprint only have 2GB of internal storage. tmo/att tabs have 16GB internal storage.
Tmobile has the fastest 3g data, but Verizon has the most data coverage on the continental us map, and is generally the slowest 3G data. Tmobile has the cheapest prepaid option at $10 for 7 days/150mb. ATT prepaid will cost minimum of $20 for 1 month/250mb. verizon i believe starts at $20/month, and with sprint there is no prepaid option.
Tmobile can be hacked to use voice minutes and data, but only edge works with that voice hack enabled, no 3G. You can turn off the voice hack and get 3G data speeds without resetting. ATT voice and 3G will work without the hack(still needs to be flashed though).
Sprint tablets usually sells for the cheapest. AT&T tablets generally sells for most expensive.
AT&T 3G also works in Europe, as well as tmobile 3g.
Tmobile has the most search results in the galaxy tab forum, tmobile is mentioned twice as much as any of the other carriers.
GSM models have more xda development support than CDMA.
As stated previously, there is no switch hacking necessary for the modem on the AT&T model if you want to use voice minutes. Just flash rom, modem and go. If you have the euro version you don't even need to flash to use this capability. Tmobile, on the other hand, requires a switch hack in order to use minutes from your plan.
Tmobile is a great choice if you don't plan on using it as a phone, and are in an area with 3G coverage. Tmobile is an ok choice if you do plan to use voice minutes. Note that in order to use voice with 3G on AT&T, you need to have a contract plan which starts at $55/month. Some people don't use the phone minutes but instead use skype or some other VOIP service over 3G. For VOIP in the continental US, Tmobile is probably the better choice due to faster speeds if you're not moving around too much. IF you plan on traveling all over the place then ATT is probably the better choice.
with ATT and tmobile you can surf 3G AND talk at the same time when using cellular voice minutes. you cannot talk and surf at the same time with EDGE.
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AT&T 3G also works in Europe. Tmobile tab will not have 3G in Europe, only edge.
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Small correction here - TMo US Tab *does* have 3G in Europe.
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Dave
foxmeister said:
Small correction here - TMo US Tab *does* have 3G in Europe.
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Dave
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thanks for pointing that out. after researching it more it looks like there is confusion with tmobile because in the U.S. tmobile uses 1700 frequency AND 2100 frequency, and in europe/asia it's just the 2100 frequency that is used.
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info about devices I've gathered from these forums so far:
Tmobile has the fastest 3g data.....
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I have a Droid X (Verizon) and a Galaxy Tablet (T-Mobile). Here's what I've observed. Verizon's 3G service coverage is pretty much everywhere. I can't find anywhere that I don't have 3G with the Droid X. T-Mobile's 3G coverage is more limited. For example, I work in Greensboro, NC and live in Burlington, NC. I have 3G coverage in Greensboro but lose it and go on EDGE when I get to Burlington. However, in the places where I have 3G with T-Mobile, it's 3 - 6 times faster than Verizon's. It really smokes.....where it's available. If they could get their coverage as widespread as Verizon's, they would definitely be the carrier of choice.
One additional observation....about a mile from my home in Burlington, there's a T-Mobile store. They've got all kinds of flyers in their windows about how fast their 3G and 4G speeds are. Interesting thing is that where this store is located and for about 12 miles going towards Greensboro, you don't have anything but EDGE. So, if you go into the store and want to see an example of their "blazing speeds" they can't provide it....unless they're doing it with WiFi and fooling the customer.
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I have a Droid X (Verizon) and a Galaxy Tablet (T-Mobile). Here's what I've observed. Verizon's 3G service coverage is pretty much everywhere. I can't find anywhere that I don't have 3G with the Droid X. T-Mobile's 3G coverage is more limited. For example, I work in Greensboro, NC and live in Burlington, NC. I have 3G coverage in Greensboro but lose it and go on EDGE when I get to Burlington. However, in the places where I have 3G with T-Mobile, it's 3 - 6 times faster than Verizon's. It really smokes.....where it's available. If they could get their coverage as widespread as Verizon's, they would definitely be the carrier of choice.
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Well said, lack of 3G coverage is one of the reasons I did not go with a Tmobile Tab. I was going to originally pick up a verizon model since it seems to work in more places. Unfortunately the lack of Bluetooth HID support and no coverage in europe forced me to avoid VZW. ATT has more 3G coverage than tmobile and has the option of voice with 3G, so I went that route.
here are two up to date maps of current 3G coverage, ATT vs Tmobile:
TMobile:
http://www.cellularmaps.com/image/tm_3g_10c.jpg
ATT:
http://www.cellularmaps.com/image/att_3g_11a.jpg
as you can see ATT is the clear winner here, for now.
for reference, here's verizon's 3G coverage:
http://www.cellularmaps.com/image/vzw_3g_c.jpg
Do you think hd2 owners who have at&t will get to use tmobiles wavelength and finally get more than edge network from this happening??
For reference if new to this subject at&t and tmobile both have an EDGE network on the same wavelength so on an unlocked tmobile hd2 one can use the slow 2g internet connection of at&t, but the 3g networks run off of different bands so an at&t # can't connect to any 3g whatsoever, with at&t's purchase of tmobile wouldn't at&t have to utilize tmobiles 3g wavelength in order to still provide 3g and 3.5g to everyone with tmobile phones that aren't compatible with at&t's current network? If so then I'm personally benefitting from this and finally getting a decent mobile data speed on my tmobile phone with my at&t network
Please don't bash at&t here, I know they suck, I've used their service for quite some time now, I'm just looking for opinions and facts on this matter
and I know euro hd2's already pick up at&t 3g, I'm talking about tmous hardware
From what I have read it seems that in a year or so if this deal is accepted by the FCC at&t will reuse and refit tmobiles network towers/equipment to use there 4g LTE network and give it a boost while removing T-Mobile service altogether causing us T-Mobile 3g/4g users to get new phones that work on AT&T's data network so in your case I highly doubt it there really isn't a benefit for AT&T or T-mobile other then T-Mobile users will be able to have different range of phones (mostly iPhone) I really hope the FCC denies this deal not only does it kills another service provider option limiting us to 3 major companies and forces people escaping the high price of service from sprint, Verizon, and At&t (I've been on them all and left because of price and QOS) but also makes AT&T top dog just because they bought out another company
Yea I read about this yesterday. Highly pissed off. I can't stand at&t. Crappy phone signal, high prices, and crappy customer service. I hope this deal does not go through. Just like when sprint was supposed to buy tmobile. Hopefully it's just a rumor.
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Do you think hd2 owners who have at&t will get to use tmobiles wavelength and finally get more than edge network from this happening??
For reference if new to this subject at&t and tmobile both have an EDGE network on the same wavelength so on an unlocked tmobile hd2 one can use the slow 2g internet connection of at&t, but the 3g networks run off of different bands so an at&t # can't connect to any 3g whatsoever, with at&t's purchase of tmobile wouldn't at&t have to utilize tmobiles 3g wavelength in order to still provide 3g and 3.5g to everyone with tmobile phones that aren't compatible with at&t's current network? If so then I'm personally benefitting from this and finally getting a decent mobile data speed on my tmobile phone with my at&t network
Please don't bash at&t here, I know they suck, I've used their service for quite some time now, I'm just looking for opinions and facts on this matter
and I know euro hd2's already pick up at&t 3g, I'm talking about tmous hardware
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Actually I have read that its the exact opposite......AT&T has planned to upgrade all of Tmobiles service towers to the 4G LTE, leaving all T-Mobile Branded 3g phones unable to access
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Actually I have read that its the exact opposite......AT&T has planned to upgrade all of Tmobiles service towers to the 4G LTE, leaving all T-Mobile Branded 3g phones unable to access
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yeah, about 5 minutes after i posted this i saw the article stating that at&t is decommissioning tmobile's 3/3.5g towers to use them for their LTE, too bad at&t is already selling "4g" phones (ie the atrix and the inspire 4g) with no capability of utilizing TRUE 4g via LTE later on... anyone else think at&t will re-release said phones as LTE devices for $50 more than the hspa versions? i cant wait to switch to verizon personally, but im waiting for a htc pyramid compatible with verizons 4g network to switch
I received a letter from tmobile if I wanted to attend a meeting/conference for San Jose, Ca becuase my current phone service will be upgraded.... not removed....
Is this confirmed yet? If so, I am going to be HIGHLY pissed off. I HATE AT&T with a passion and refuse to use their service.
Is it possible to unlock my HD2 and my fiancee's Galaxy S Vibrant to use on Sprint or Verizon?
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Is this confirmed yet? If so, I am going to be HIGHLY pissed off. I HATE AT&T with a passion and refuse to use their service.
Is it possible to unlock my HD2 and my fiancee's Galaxy S Vibrant to use on Sprint or Verizon?
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No, only for gsm networks, which is now going through an approval process to become a single gsm network, not confirmed until the fcc gives the word though so keep your fingers crossed!
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Is this confirmed yet? If so, I am going to be HIGHLY pissed off. I HATE AT&T with a passion and refuse to use their service.
Is it possible to unlock my HD2 and my fiancee's Galaxy S Vibrant to use on Sprint or Verizon?
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No Tmobile and AT&T use sim cards and use totally different frequencies
If the deal passes I highly doubt that the T-mobile name will continue for long. Especially since both carriers operate on the voicestream network. This will combine T-mobile's few towers with ATT's many towers. But as someone mentioned earlier niether of these two have real 4G. It ticks me off when I see comercials calling it 4G. Only verizon is rolling out true 4G in LTE.
And in case you haven't heard. T-mobile was going down hill. They were losing money. There were talks of Sprint buying them at first. So it may be a good thing with ATT buying them up.
Hey guys, had a quick question. Since the Atrix is a SIM oriented phone and Verizon is pumping out these LTE sim cards on new phones, shouldn't it be theoretically possible to use Phones like the Atrix on Verizon? Any development with this?
Maybe I am being stupid here and these two technologies are completely different.
idk, i doubt it, but the bionic that's coming out for Verizon is pretty much the atrix with less ram and no laptop dock
Nope. First off, what AT&T is calling 4G currently and what Verizon is selling are completely different technologies. HSPA+ is just normal old AT&T 3G system with an Ethernet backhaul to increase speed a bit. AT&T will also be building an LTE (true 4G) network, but that's not the "4G" these devices are built for.
But to go further. LTE and 3G/HSPA+ sims are completely different things. Top that off with the fact that Verizon will be using dual tech CDMA and LTE phones, while AT&T will be using LTE and HSPA technology. So, even if you did get a Verizon LTE sim for an AT&T device, you would only be able to use the phone in an LTE environment. You're still going to be on the 3G/3.5G network 90% of the time till the infrastructure gets built out. That is, unless the handset is carrier agnostic, like the iPhone 6 is supposed to be. It'll supposedly work on any network.
wondering what carrier the people who are actually getting a S6 have
sammobile saya verizon will start taking PreOrders April 1. (no price given yet)
why no o2 mclovin lol
I have AT&T and recently received a notification that I'm due for an upgrade. Hope these things drop the first part of April.
AT&T always gets the exclusives when it comes to devices, so I wouldnt be surprised they get an additional color
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why no o2 mclovin lol
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i put an extea option if ur carrier is out of the us (as i dont know them all)
is o2 a US Carrier?
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to any sprint users, do you have good service?
sprint is horrible in my area
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i put an extea option if ur carrier is out of the us (as i dont know them all)
is o2 a US Carrier?
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to any sprint users, do you have good service?
sprint is horrible in my area
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nah UK carrier.
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to any sprint users, do you have good service?
sprint is horrible in my area
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coverage is pretty good in my area (CT), as for LTE, it's been available for me since last March in my home town and LTE is still expanding.
my problem right now is i have a 1st gen GS4 so i am limited on the LTE bands i can use so my speed slows down a bit during peak hours. but off peak i get 25mbit/s down and 6Mbit/s up. i hope when i get a newer phone which support sprint spark LTE (tri band 800MHz, 1.9GHz and 2.5GHz spectrum) then my slowish LTE speeds will improve. IIRC all phones after the 2nd gen GS4 support LTE tri-band.
going to get the tmobile version, unlock it and use it on cricket (at&T mvno) and solavei (t-Mobile MVNO). The tmobile version will have all of tmobile H+ and LTE bands as well as all of at&T h+ and LTE. also thwe bootloader will likely not be locked. downside is spending the extra money to have it third party unlocked
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i put an extea option if ur carrier is out of the us (as i dont know them all)
is o2 a US Carrier?
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sprint is horrible in my area
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I have a Note 3 on Sprint for my personal line and a Note 4 for my work line on AT&T. My Note 3 on Sprints network consistently has better signal. I am sure others would have different results but where I live Sprint seems to have the better network. This hasn't always been the case though. Turn the clocks back two years and Sprints network was absolutely horrible but now it's on par and in some areas better than other carriers.
Sadly... Sprint S6 Edge is what I'm getting. Damn Sprint.......
I'm on AT&T, but if this one is locked down too much (no root), I'll spring for an International version.
Hi Guys,
I have an extra upgrade on my account, but want to use it on AT&T. I know the phones are sim unlocked, but will I be able to use LTE on AT&T?
jcafowler said:
Hi Guys,
I have an extra upgrade on my account, but want to use it on AT&T. I know the phones are sim unlocked, but will I be able to use LTE on AT&T?
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I believe just on bands 2 and 4. AT&T uses band 12/17 for their low-band spectrum (great for in buildings and rural areas), so you'd have sub-par experience.
To get the best experience, try swapping (literally) phones with someone selling an AT&T one on Swappa.
General information to follow:
https://swappa.com/faq/general/how_to_trade
I have a verizon s7 edge. I have an att sim a Tmobile sim and a Verizon sim that I swap depending on the area I am in (I use google voice with call forwarding so my number doesn't change)
Att and Tmobile work fine 80% of the time. But anywhere that the 12 band is used you will have no signal in heavey populated areas you will have no issues, but once you get into the less populated areas your coverage is spotty...
I have to use verizon at home, t mobile at work for the free music and video streaming, and Att well I hate ATT but I have a number on my ex wife's family plan for another 7 months so I use the data I am allocated on the plan then swap the card out again.